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1. 01:01 AM - Re: Prop ground clearance (Roger Standley)
2. 05:41 AM - Re: Prop ground clearance (johngoodman)
3. 05:52 AM - Re: Re: Prop ground clearance (Kelly McMullen)
4. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: Prop ground clearance (Michael Kraus)
5. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: Prop ground clearance (Bill Gipson)
6. 07:27 AM - Re: Prop ground clearance (johngoodman)
7. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: Prop ground clearance (Marcus Cooper)
8. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Prop ground clearance (Michael Kraus)
9. 09:57 AM - Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... (Matt Dralle)
10. 10:39 AM - Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purchased at a local store? (Andrew Johnson)
11. 10:53 AM - Re: Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purchased at a local store? (Linn Walters)
12. 11:48 AM - Re: Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purchased at a local store? (Michael Kraus)
13. 11:50 AM - Re: Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purchas (rv10flyer)
14. 01:28 PM - Re: Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purchased at a local store? (John Cox)
15. 01:43 PM - Re: Panel Audio/Data Diagrams (Dave Saylor)
16. 02:13 PM - Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... (Bob Turner)
17. 02:48 PM - Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (Bob Leffler)
18. 03:02 PM - Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (Bob Turner)
19. 03:44 PM - Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (Deems Davis)
20. 04:12 PM - Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (Bob Leffler)
21. 04:19 PM - Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... (Matt Dralle)
22. 04:53 PM - Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (Deems Davis)
23. 04:54 PM - Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (Jesse Saint)
24. 06:21 PM - Off-List: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (Jesse Saint)
25. 06:23 PM - Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (rv10flyer)
26. 07:13 PM - 2 IO-540-C4B5 engines for sale (b432291)
27. 07:33 PM - Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (Jim Combs)
28. 08:37 PM - Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (greghale)
29. 08:39 PM - Re: Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purcha (greghale)
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| Subject: | Re: Prop ground clearance |
I remembered wrong. You guys are exactly right. My bad. I went back to
section 46 and it is an extra U-1002 washer that Vans supplied for after
the elastomers "take a set".
Roger
40291
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelly McMullen<mailto:kellym@aviating.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance
<kellym@aviating.com<mailto:kellym@aviating.com>>
My finish kit came with only 4 shock disks. I seriously doubt Van's
would supply an extra. They now cost around $80-90 each, and they will
never compress enough for you to install another. When you lose 1/2
inch
in stack height, they are essentially worn out. You see, these are the
exact same part number shock disks used on all three gear legs of a
Mooney(3 on the nose, 4 on each main). At the weight of the short and
intermediate older Mooneys they last 10-20 yrs. At the weight of the
newest long body Mooneys they last 4-10 yrs. Difference is about 800
extra pounds on the newer models. My E model Mooney has empty wt of
1645
lbs, or slightly more than RV-10 empty, and has 52 gal fuel capacity,
so
its normal parked wt with full tanks is very comparable to an RV-10. I
last changed shock disks in 1999, and they are still in good
shape...no
loss of stack height. The only supplier these days is Lord. Rapco used
to make them, but theirs had reputation of not lasting as long, so
didn't sell well, even though they were several bucks cheaper.
On 10/9/2011 9:47 PM, Seano wrote:
> I used all of the supplied elastomers on my kit???? Can't remember
> how many off hand. I thought the extra aluminum washers were
supplied
> for later when the elastomer gets a little worn in.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roger Standley
<mailto:taildragon@msn.com<mailto:taildragon@msn.com>>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 09, 2011 6:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance
>
> John,
> Do you have any vertical "play" in your nose gear? Vans calls
for
> four J-11968-14 nose gear elastomers and they included a fifth
one
> for later. At 300 hours, I have just a little vertical play. I
> have 8" clearance from prop (2 blade) to ground when nose tire
is
> inflated to 42 lbs. At 7 1/2 " clearance I know the nose tire
> needs more air. I will add the fifth elastomer when I have more
> vertical play or I no longer have at least 8" clearance when the
> nose tire is properly inflated.
> Roger
> 40291
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Marcus Cooper
<mailto:coop85@verizon.net<mailto:coop85@verizon.net>>
> *To:*
rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 09, 2011 11:40 AM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Prop ground clearance
>
> <coop85@verizon.net<mailto:coop85@verizon.net>
<mailto:coop85@verizon.net<mailto:coop85@verizon.net>>>
>
> John,
> I don't remember having read any issues that folks have
had
> with prop clearance, but if you are facing bumpy terrain or
> maybe a lot of rocks I would recommend against adjusting the
> nose wheel or nose gear assembly. This would alter your
> sitting angle of attack and could result in getting airborne
> at a speed less than you would like. A small change might
not
> be significant, but just something to consider. I suspect
> going with a 3 blade would be the safest course of action as
> you still have a known combination verses the other options.
>
> Marcus
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> do not archive
> On Oct 9, 2011, at 1:56 PM, johngoodman wrote:
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> <johngoodman@earthlink.net<mailto:johngoodman@earthlink.net>
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>
> Any suggestions on how to increase prop arc ground
clearance?
>
> The obvious one is a smaller prop, or a 3 blade, but how
about
> a larger nose tire, or a slightly longer WD-1016 nose gear
> link assembly where it joins WD-1017....
>
> John
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| Subject: | Re: Prop ground clearance |
Thanks for the response. The only practical way to change the strut would be making
a slightly longer WD-1016. It's probably not a great idea.
My only reluctance for going to a three blade prop is my understanding that it
would require another Phase One fly off - right?
John
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#40572 Phase One complete and flying.
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| Subject: | Re: Prop ground clearance |
In theory, yes. However, I believe for most ops limitations today that
is an additional 5 hours, not 40 hours.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:38 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> Thanks for the response. The only practical way to change the strut would be
making a slightly longer WD-1016. It's probably not a great idea.
> My only reluctance for going to a three blade prop is my understanding that it
would require another Phase One fly off - right?
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> John
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| Subject: | Re: Prop ground clearance |
Read your operation limitations. It should say in there, but typically a new prop
requires only a 5 hour fly off. At least that is how mine is written.
Do not archive
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> Thanks for the response. The only practical way to change the strut would be
making a slightly longer WD-1016. It's probably not a great idea.
> My only reluctance for going to a three blade prop is my understanding that it
would require another Phase One fly off - right?
>
> John
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| Subject: | Re: Prop ground clearance |
John=2C I was required to fly 5 hours only in my original Phase I area and
document in maintenance log when I changed props.
Bill Gipson
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Prop ground clearance
> From: johngoodman@earthlink.net
> Date: Mon=2C 10 Oct 2011 05:38:22 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> Thanks for the response. The only practical way to change the strut would
be making a slightly longer WD-1016. It's probably not a great idea.
> My only reluctance for going to a three blade prop is my understanding th
at it would require another Phase One fly off - right?
>
> John
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> #40572 Phase One complete and flying.
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| Subject: | Re: Prop ground clearance |
The big reason that another Phase One bothers me, is that insurance doesn't give
full coverage in Phase One - we discovered that one when a guy had a fire the
day before his inspection. Luckily he was under builder's risk and not Phase
One.
John
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#40572 Phase One complete and flying.
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| Subject: | Re: Prop ground clearance |
Probably worth asking the question, my experience is that most insurance companies
won't cover for the first X number of hours, not specifically phase 1. Since
you are past that they may still provide coverage, or possibly consider switching
companies (or at least threaten to do so).
Marcus
do not archive
On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:23 AM, johngoodman wrote:
The big reason that another Phase One bothers me, is that insurance doesn't give
full coverage in Phase One - we discovered that one when a guy had a fire the
day before his inspection. Luckily he was under builder's risk and not Phase
One.
John
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#40572 Phase One complete and flying.
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| Subject: | Re: Prop ground clearance |
I got my insurance through Tom Johnson at Air Power Insurance. He gave me 3-4
competitive quotes, some had full coverage including Phase I, some excluded Phase
I. It was my choice as to my coverage......
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net> wrote:
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> Probably worth asking the question, my experience is that most insurance companies
won't cover for the first X number of hours, not specifically phase 1.
Since you are past that they may still provide coverage, or possibly consider
switching companies (or at least threaten to do so).
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> Marcus
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> On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:23 AM, johngoodman wrote:
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> The big reason that another Phase One bothers me, is that insurance doesn't give
full coverage in Phase One - we discovered that one when a guy had a fire
the day before his inspection. Luckily he was under builder's risk and not Phase
One.
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| Subject: | Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... |
Greetings Listers,
I have an RV-6 with an ACK E-01 ELT unit and the small Remote Control Panel (RCP)
unit. Last month, I completely replaced the instrument panel in the airplane
and when I removed the ELT's RCP, I noticed that one of the mounting holes
was broken off.
I had another ELT on the shelf for another project and so I grabbed the RCP from
it and designed a hole in the new instrument panel for it. The hole for this
RCP was about twice the height of the hole for the RCP from the E-01 but appeared
to be exactly the same as far as make and connector hole.
Well, I didn't really put two and two together at the time but the E-01 is from
ACK Technologies, and the RCP from the other unit is an Ameri-King AK-450. Except
for the difference in vertical size the two RCP's look exactly the same
and accept the same RJ-11 connector. Both have a Red and a Black button and a
single Red LED. Both take a 3 volt battery.
But here's the bummer, after I put everything back together this weekend, it turns
out that the new RCP will NOT turn the E-01 on/off. If I plug the original
E-01 RCP in to the same RJ-11 wire, it does turn the E-01 on/off, so the wiring
and E-01 are fine. It just seems that the internal wiring of the two different
RCP's is slightly different.
The bigger bummer is that now I have a large hole in my panel for the RCP that
doesn't work, so I have to figure something out. The original-sized RCP won't
fit because its too small and the panel hole is too big.
Can anyone lend any advice on the situation? Surely others have run into this
before.
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| Subject: | Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purchased |
at a local store?
I've looked in places like West Marine, etc, with no luck. I'm wondering if
there are any chain stores or a type of specialty store that would have
weld-on, or another type of equally strong bonding agent. I hate having to
purchase from Vans and then have it trucked the entire way across country.
Thanks in advance.
Andy Johnson
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| Subject: | Re: Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purchased |
at a local store?
Try a large sign shop. That's where I get mine.
Linn
On 10/10/2011 1:36 PM, Andrew Johnson wrote:
> <noconwud@earthlink.net>
>
> I've looked in places like West Marine, etc, with no luck. I'm
> wondering if there are any chain stores or a type of specialty store
> that would have weld-on, or another type of equally strong bonding
> agent. I hate having to purchase from Vans and then have it trucked
> the entire way across country.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Andy Johnson
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purchased |
at a local store?
I used Sika Flex, purchased from Jamestown Distributers.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 10, 2011, at 1:36 PM, "Andrew Johnson" <noconwud@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> I've looked in places like West Marine, etc, with no luck. I'm wondering if
there are any chain stores or a type of specialty store that would have weld-on,
or another type of equally strong bonding agent. I hate having to purchase
from Vans and then have it trucked the entire way across country.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Andy Johnson
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purchas |
http://www.theengineerguy.com/
This is where I puchased Weld-On 45 for transparencies. Great product and customer
service.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983SB Baffles then fuel/oil/exhaust.
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| Subject: | Re: Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purchased |
at a local store?
Ask Tap Plastics if they could consider stocking it.
John 40600
On Oct 10, 2011 10:42 AM, "Andrew Johnson" <noconwud@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I've looked in places like West Marine, etc, with no luck. I'm wondering
> if there are any chain stores or a type of specialty store that would have
> weld-on, or another type of equally strong bonding agent. I hate having to
> purchase from Vans and then have it trucked the entire way across country.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Andy Johnson
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Audio/Data Diagrams |
Hi Michael,
Here' a similar block diagram to yours. This is after a few changes
so it could probably be a little cleaner, but everything's working and
stable.
We used to have a 496, which has some hidden options for audio output
than the 696 lacks. If you're interested, look up my post on
AeroElectric from 11/6/07. That took a while to figure out.
For the last few panels we've built, we run all the serial wires into
a single CPC connector, then use the mating connector to make the
interconnects. You end up with a connector on one side that's a
"key". Then if you make changes or additions in the future, you can
just take the key to the bench and jumper around in the mating
connector to feed whatever's needed. I really wish I had that on my
plane. It would have made adding the ADS600B a lot easier. The
problem is finding a connector with enough pins!
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 1:04 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
<rvbuilder@sausen.net> wrote:
> Being a big fan of peer reviewed eye charts I thought I would throw my
> data/audio diagrams for my panel out to the group and see if anyone had a
ny
> comments or thoughts on it. =C2-=C2-The first page just shows who is
talking to
> who, the following pages are just a device view, and then there are two
> block diagrams near the end that show the connections between all the
> devices.
>
>
> Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... |
My only suggestion would be to put an ohmmeter on each terminal of each remote
unit and see if you can discern the functions as you push the buttons. If it's
something as simple as "wire 1 on unit A does the same thing as wire 2 on unit
B, etc" then you can cut and splice the cable to send wire 1's signal down
wire 2, etc.
A more deluxe solution would be a small remote box with 2 RJ connectors on it,
with the wiring cross-overs done internally.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue |
I've been talking with Dick Carmichael at Plane Power about an alignment
issue on my RV-10 between the pulley on the Plane Power 60a alternator and
the pulley that came with my IO-540-D4A5, which were both purchased through
Van's. I've attached a photo for review. In the photo, I've also placed a
square against the back of the Lycoming pulley.
As you can plainly see the alternator belt is out of alignment. In talking
with Dick, he stated that this is due to the dual belted pulley that came
with my engine. He further stated that he couldn't guarantee that the belt
would stay on and it clearly would have a shortened life due to the
misalignment.
Since there are no user adjustments for this alignment with the Boss mount,
I'm being told by Plane Power to use a single belt pulley on the engine.
Is this the standard pulley for an IO-540-D4A5? Plane Power is giving me
the indication that this is not the case. Is there the possibility that the
incorrect part was substituted by Lycoming?
Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, what did you do?
Thanks,
bob
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| Subject: | Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue |
I have the YIO-540D4A5 (no certification paperwork) bought thru Vans, and it came
with a single belt pulley.
I have found Williamsport to be very accomodating; my engine came with a light
weight starter and I requested it be changed to the heavier unit (per the starter
company's recommendation) and Lycoming immediately sent one to me.
I'd ask them for the correct pulley.
Bob
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue |
Bob, Why do you have a dual belt prop pulley? The standard pulley is a
single belt. The only reason I'm aware of for having a dual belt is to
accommodate an A/C compressor. For those installations w/ A/C they have been
relocating the alternator to the other side of the engine and placing the
compressor where the old alternator was?
Deems
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue
I've been talking with Dick Carmichael at Plane Power about an alignment
issue on my RV-10 between the pulley on the Plane Power 60a alternator and
the pulley that came with my IO-540-D4A5, which were both purchased through
Van's. I've attached a photo for review. In the photo, I've also placed a
square against the back of the Lycoming pulley.
As you can plainly see the alternator belt is out of alignment. In talking
with Dick, he stated that this is due to the dual belted pulley that came
with my engine. He further stated that he couldn't guarantee that the belt
would stay on and it clearly would have a shortened life due to the
misalignment.
Since there are no user adjustments for this alignment with the Boss mount,
I'm being told by Plane Power to use a single belt pulley on the engine.
Is this the standard pulley for an IO-540-D4A5? Plane Power is giving me
the indication that this is not the case. Is there the possibility that the
incorrect part was substituted by Lycoming?
Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, what did you do?
Thanks,
bob
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| Subject: | Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue |
That's what Lycoming shipped when I ordered the engine through Van's. It
wasn't an option that I chose.
Gus at Van's stated that is what Lycoming now ships on the YIO-540-D4A5.
However, I know of at least two other folks that got the single pulley. Gus
stated that Lycoming would swap it out for me.
bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue
Bob, Why do you have a dual belt prop pulley? The standard pulley is a
single belt. The only reason I'm aware of for having a dual belt is to
accommodate an A/C compressor. For those installations w/ A/C they have been
relocating the alternator to the other side of the engine and placing the
compressor where the old alternator was?
Deems
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue
I've been talking with Dick Carmichael at Plane Power about an alignment
issue on my RV-10 between the pulley on the Plane Power 60a alternator and
the pulley that came with my IO-540-D4A5, which were both purchased through
Van's. I've attached a photo for review. In the photo, I've also placed a
square against the back of the Lycoming pulley.
As you can plainly see the alternator belt is out of alignment. In talking
with Dick, he stated that this is due to the dual belted pulley that came
with my engine. He further stated that he couldn't guarantee that the belt
would stay on and it clearly would have a shortened life due to the
misalignment.
Since there are no user adjustments for this alignment with the Boss mount,
I'm being told by Plane Power to use a single belt pulley on the engine.
Is this the standard pulley for an IO-540-D4A5? Plane Power is giving me
the indication that this is not the case. Is there the possibility that the
incorrect part was substituted by Lycoming?
Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, what did you do?
Thanks,
bob
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| Subject: | Re: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... |
I just got an email back from ACK Tech and they said:
"To use the Ameriking remote you must cut one end off the cable and turn it 180
degrees. - Mike Akatiff, ACK Technologies"
Simple enough! Yahoo!
Matt Dralle
At 09:53 AM 10/10/2011 Monday, you wrote:
>
>
>Greetings Listers,
>
>I have an RV-6 with an ACK E-01 ELT unit and the small Remote Control Panel (RCP)
unit. Last month, I completely replaced the instrument panel in the airplane
and when I removed the ELT's RCP, I noticed that one of the mounting holes
was broken off.
>
>I had another ELT on the shelf for another project and so I grabbed the RCP from
it and designed a hole in the new instrument panel for it. The hole for this
RCP was about twice the height of the hole for the RCP from the E-01 but appeared
to be exactly the same as far as make and connector hole.
>
>Well, I didn't really put two and two together at the time but the E-01 is from
ACK Technologies, and the RCP from the other unit is an Ameri-King AK-450.
Except for the difference in vertical size the two RCP's look exactly the same
and accept the same RJ-11 connector. Both have a Red and a Black button and
a single Red LED. Both take a 3 volt battery.
>
>But here's the bummer, after I put everything back together this weekend, it turns
out that the new RCP will NOT turn the E-01 on/off. If I plug the original
E-01 RCP in to the same RJ-11 wire, it does turn the E-01 on/off, so the wiring
and E-01 are fine. It just seems that the internal wiring of the two different
RCP's is slightly different.
>
>The bigger bummer is that now I have a large hole in my panel for the RCP that
doesn't work, so I have to figure something out. The original-sized RCP won't
fit because its too small and the panel hole is too big.
>
>Can anyone lend any advice on the situation? Surely others have run into this
before.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Matt Dralle
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| Subject: | Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue |
Did you get a parts/o-haul manual with your engine? I'll bet it doesn't
list a dual belt as standard. Go for the exchange. It's disappointing to
hear Van's give crappy advice/info.
Deems
You might want to see what a single pulley flywheel goes for, and sell the
dual pulley, When I ws considering A/C and looking for a dual pulley, it was
going to cost me $1200.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue
That's what Lycoming shipped when I ordered the engine through Van's. It
wasn't an option that I chose.
Gus at Van's stated that is what Lycoming now ships on the YIO-540-D4A5.
However, I know of at least two other folks that got the single pulley. Gus
stated that Lycoming would swap it out for me.
bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue
Bob, Why do you have a dual belt prop pulley? The standard pulley is a
single belt. The only reason I'm aware of for having a dual belt is to
accommodate an A/C compressor. For those installations w/ A/C they have been
relocating the alternator to the other side of the engine and placing the
compressor where the old alternator was?
Deems
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue
I've been talking with Dick Carmichael at Plane Power about an alignment
issue on my RV-10 between the pulley on the Plane Power 60a alternator and
the pulley that came with my IO-540-D4A5, which were both purchased through
Van's. I've attached a photo for review. In the photo, I've also placed a
square against the back of the Lycoming pulley.
As you can plainly see the alternator belt is out of alignment. In talking
with Dick, he stated that this is due to the dual belted pulley that came
with my engine. He further stated that he couldn't guarantee that the belt
would stay on and it clearly would have a shortened life due to the
misalignment.
Since there are no user adjustments for this alignment with the Boss mount,
I'm being told by Plane Power to use a single belt pulley on the engine.
Is this the standard pulley for an IO-540-D4A5? Plane Power is giving me
the indication that this is not the case. Is there the possibility that the
incorrect part was substituted by Lycoming?
Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, what did you do?
Thanks,
bob
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| Subject: | Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue |
That definitely is not right. I've never seen that problem before. Could the
alternator bracket is really to only variable that I can think of. Can you g
et some measurements off that and have people on the list compare?
As Deems said, I have only seen the dual belt pulley used w A/C, although in
the most recent installation I have seen the compressor was on the left sid
e and the alternator stayed on the right. That was an RDD installation of th
e Flightline A/C system.
I think somehow your alternator bracket is wrong.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:36 PM, "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
> I=99ve been talking with Dick Carmichael at Plane Power about an ali
gnment issue on my RV-10 between the pulley on the Plane Power 60a alternato
r and the pulley that came with my IO-540-D4A5, which were both purchased th
rough Van=99s. I=99ve attached a photo for review. In the phot
o, I=99ve also placed a square against the back of the Lycoming pulley
.
>
>
>
> As you can plainly see the alternator belt is out of alignment. In talkin
g with Dick, he stated that this is due to the dual belted pulley that came w
ith my engine. He further stated that he couldn=99t guarantee that th
e belt would stay on and it clearly would have a shortened life due to the m
isalignment.
>
>
>
> Since there are no user adjustments for this alignment with the Boss mount
, I=99m being told by Plane Power to use a single belt pulley on the e
ngine.
>
>
>
> Is this the standard pulley for an IO-540-D4A5? Plane Power is giving me
the indication that this is not the case. Is there the possibility that th
e incorrect part was substituted by Lycoming?
>
>
>
> Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, what did you do?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> bob
>
> <IMG_1650.JPG>
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| Subject: | Off-List: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue |
I'll trade you a single pulley ring gear for the double pulley one if
you want. I'll ship ahead to verify that it will fit, but I'd be happy
to trade. As Deems said, it's not a cheap thing to buy, so working out a
swap would be much better in the long run.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:
> That=92s what Lycoming shipped when I ordered the engine through
Van=92s. It wasn=92t an option that I chose.
>
> Gus at Van=92s stated that is what Lycoming now ships on the
YIO-540-D4A5. However, I know of at least two other folks that got the
single pulley. Gus stated that Lycoming would swap it out for me.
>
> bob
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 6:40 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment
Issue
>
> Bob, Why do you have a dual belt prop pulley? The standard pulley is a
single belt. The only reason I=92m aware of for having a dual belt is
to accommodate an A/C compressor. For those installations w/ A/C they
have been relocating the alternator to the other side of the engine and
placing the compressor where the old alternator was?
>
> Deems
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:37 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue
>
> I=92ve been talking with Dick Carmichael at Plane Power about an
alignment issue on my RV-10 between the pulley on the Plane Power 60a
alternator and the pulley that came with my IO-540-D4A5, which were both
purchased through Van=92s. I=92ve attached a photo for review. In the
photo, I=92ve also placed a square against the back of the Lycoming
pulley.
>
> As you can plainly see the alternator belt is out of alignment. In
talking with Dick, he stated that this is due to the dual belted pulley
that came with my engine. He further stated that he couldn=92t
guarantee that the belt would stay on and it clearly would have a
shortened life due to the misalignment.
>
> Since there are no user adjustments for this alignment with the Boss
mount, I=92m being told by Plane Power to use a single belt pulley on
the engine.
>
> Is this the standard pulley for an IO-540-D4A5? Plane Power is
giving me the indication that this is not the case. Is there the
possibility that the incorrect part was substituted by Lycoming?
>
> Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, what did you do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> bob
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue |
This change of std pulley shipment started fall 2010 or before. I have the same
dual groove/pp setup as Bob.
Not only are the pulleys out of alignment fore-aft, PP's bracket has the pulley/flywheel
not in the same plane. Very unacceptable engineering and lack of communication
between Vans/Lyc/PP.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983SB Baffles then fuel/oil/exhaust.
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| Subject: | 2 IO-540-C4B5 engines for sale |
I currently have O-360 engine parts at Chuck Ney's shop in Tulsa for assembly into
a full engine for the RV-7A I am building. Because I wanted to see the shop
for myself I visited Chuck and was impressed with his shop and his aircraft
engine knowledge. Because Chuck is less knowledgeable about computers than engines,
he asked me to "list" 2 IO-540 engines he has for sale. Both engines are
out of a Piper Aztec.
Engine #1 has been freshly overhauled by Chuck and has his Signature Modifications,
6 "Straight Bore" Investment Cast Millennium Cylinders (500 hours TT before
Reconditioned/Straight Bored) and Ney Nozzles for Camshaft Lubrication. This
engine has a replaced crankcase, as the original was cracked. Ignition is new
mags. All other accessories have 500 hours since last rebuild. You get prop-governor,
alternator, fuel injector system, lightweight starter, & vacuum pump.
Note that Chuck does not recommend mineral oil for Straight Bore break-in and believes
this motor will gain 15 HP from the Straight Bore cylinders.
Chuck is asking $36,000 for this engine.
Engine #2 is in a as-removed condition from the Aztec. All parts are 500 hours
since overhaul. Chuck has not inspected, overhauled, or modified anything on this
engine. It comes with the same accessory list as Engine #1.
Chuck is asking $15,000 for this engine.
Please contact Chuck Ney Enterprises about either of these engines:
Chuck Ney
Chuck Ney Enterprises Inc.
9410 East 46th Street North
Tulsa, Ok. 74117
918-836-5323 Work
918-625-3193 Cell
918-836-4627 Fax
Ted Saylor
Vans RV-7A under construction
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| Subject: | Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue |
Wayne Gillespie also has the same issue. Vans or Lycoming had better get
the word out they have a serious field problem about to show up! Wonder ho
w
many are out there and no one has spotted the issue. How many are flying o
r
about to?
Wayne invited several RV-builders to pre-inspect his build prior to DAR
inspection. We found the same issue on his engine. He is going to correct
it prior to flight. Machine new spacers to relocate the alternator slightl
y
aft. But is a problem that must be solved prior to flight.
Jim Combs
N312F - 300+ hours
Do Not Archive
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
> I=92ve been talking with Dick Carmichael at Plane Power about an alignmen
t
> issue on my RV-10 between the pulley on the Plane Power 60a alternator an
d
> the pulley that came with my IO-540-D4A5, which were both purchased throu
gh
> Van=92s. I=92ve attached a photo for review. In the photo, I=92ve also
placed a
> square against the back of the Lycoming pulley.****
>
> ** **
>
> As you can plainly see the alternator belt is out of alignment. In talki
ng
> with Dick, he stated that this is due to the dual belted pulley that came
> with my engine. He further stated that he couldn=92t guarantee that the
belt
> would stay on and it clearly would have a shortened life due to the
> misalignment.****
>
> ** **
>
> Since there are no user adjustments for this alignment with the Boss moun
t,
> I=92m being told by Plane Power to use a single belt pulley on the engine
.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Is this the standard pulley for an IO-540-D4A5? Plane Power is giving m
e
> the indication that this is not the case. Is there the possibility that
the
> incorrect part was substituted by Lycoming?****
>
> ** **
>
> Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, what did you do?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> bob****
>
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| Subject: | Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue |
I have the dual flywheel pulley on my rv10 because I have air conditioning. The
Plane Power pulley was way off when I first installed it. I had to make a different
spacer and mount the alternator on the back side of the bracket to get
the belt in alignment. If you are interested in pictures, let me know. I will
have my cowling off next week.
The alternator is mounted on the right side of the engine (per Vans) and the compressor
is mounted on the left side.
Greg...
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Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
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| Subject: | Re: Can Weld-on or any other plexiglass bonding agent be purcha |
I used Sikaflex when I replaced my windshield. It is a lot easier to use and clean
up is a snap.
http://www.nwacaptain.com/windshield.html
Greg...
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Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
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