RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 10/16/11


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:19 AM - Re: Service report (AirMike)
     2. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: Service report (Tim Olson)
     3. 10:00 AM - Re: Re: Service report (Dave Saylor)
     4. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: Service report (Rob Kermanj)
     5. 03:49 PM - Re: Service report (John Cox)
     6. 06:12 PM - Re: Service report (Rob Kermanj)
     7. 08:12 PM - Re: Service report (Kelly McMullen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:19:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Service report
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    Please describe in detail the location that you are describing. Is this behind the prop, outside the case of the engine? -------- See you OSH '12 Q/B - flying 2 yrs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355203#355203


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    Time: 09:43:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Service report
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Inside the crankshaft bore and prop hub that mates to that area. Tim On Oct 16, 2011, at 11:16 AM, "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote: > > Please describe in detail the location that you are describing. > Is this behind the prop, outside the case of the engine? > > -------- > See you OSH '12 > Q/B - flying 2 yrs. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355203#355203 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:00:27 AM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Service report
    I think if you send in a small sample to an oil analysis lab they could tell you exactly what it is. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > Inside the crankshaft bore and prop hub that mates to that area. > Tim > > > On Oct 16, 2011, at 11:16 AM, "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote: > > > > > Please describe in detail the location that you are describing. > > Is this behind the prop, outside the case of the engine? > > > > -------- > > See you OSH '12 > > Q/B - flying 2 yrs. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355203#355203 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:13:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Service report
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Did not think about that. It was bad stuff! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com > wrote: > I think if you send in a small sample to an oil analysis lab they could te ll you exactly what it is. > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA 95076 > 831-722-9141 Shop > 831-750-0284 Cell > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > Inside the crankshaft bore and prop hub that mates to that area. > Tim > > > > On Oct 16, 2011, at 11:16 AM, "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote: > > > > > Please describe in detail the location that you are describing. > > Is this behind the prop, outside the case of the engine? > > > > -------- > > See you OSH '12 > > Q/B - flying 2 yrs. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355203#355203 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > MS - > k">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > e - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 03:49:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Service report
    From: John Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com>
    Kelly would be a better confirmation but if it was a heavy gray paste with slight green cast - its sounds like the lead that is in 100LL avgas. It is particularly severe in Rotax tight tolerance engines. Because of the relative weight it settles out. On Oct 15, 2011 6:58 PM, "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com> wrote: > I am betting it was 100% metal...... As in lead... > > do not archive > > > Ben Haas > N801BH > www.haaspowerair.com > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Service report > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:02:13 -0400 > > > It has been 360 hrs and four years since my prop was off the plane. I had > to replace my alt belt and was shocked by the amount of sludge caked inside > the crank. This the stuff that will corrode the crank from within. > > I cycle my prop almost at every flight. > > I had to build a scraper from a piece of alumn strap to scrape the sludge. > No amount of thinner would clean it. The stuff was grey (i assume metal) > and most of it was the consistency of proseal. Some was dry and came off > powdery like. > > I am thinking that two years and couple hundred hours might be the good > time to clean the crank. > > It would be nice to know other people experiences. > > Do not > arch========================================================================bsp; - > MATRON========================; - List > Contsp; &nb======================================================== > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25* > Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! > <http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3242/4e9a38a02b7c2ae9749st04vuc> > ConsumerLifestyles.org<http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3242/4e9a38a02b7c2ae9749st04vuc> > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 06:12:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Service report
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    No green cast. Just plane grey. Just as if you mixed proseal and did not put much harder in the mix. Rob Kermanj Sent from my iPad On Oct 16, 2011, at 6:46 PM, John Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote: > Kelly would be a better confirmation but if it was a heavy gray paste with slight green cast - its sounds like the lead that is in 100LL avgas. It i s particularly severe in Rotax tight tolerance engines. Because of the relat ive weight it settles out. > > On Oct 15, 2011 6:58 PM, "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com> wrote: > I am betting it was 100% metal...... As in lead... > > do not archive > > > Ben Haas > N801BH > www.haaspowerair.com > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Service report > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:02:13 -0400 > > > It has been 360 hrs and four years since my prop was off the plane. I had t o replace my alt belt and was shocked by the amount of sludge caked inside t he crank. This the stuff that will corrode the crank from within. > > I cycle my prop almost at every flight. > > I had to build a scraper from a piece of alumn strap to scrape the sludge. No amount of thinner would clean it. The stuff was grey (i assume metal) a nd most of it was the consistency of proseal. Some was dry and came off powd ery like. > > I am thinking that two years and couple hundred hours might be the good ti me to clean the crank. > > It would be nice to know other people experiences. > > Do not arch===================== =bsp; - MATRON================= =======; - List Contsp; &nb====== > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 > Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! > ConsumerLifestyles.org > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 08:12:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Service report
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    The question would be what oil is being used. This was one of the problems with the Mobil One aviation oil, being pure synthetic...it couldn't hold lead salts and sludge in suspension. Mineral oil is much better for holding contaminants in suspension. IIRC Aeroshell multi-grade has the most synthetic with a bit less in Exxon. Phillips XC is all mineral oil if you need a multi-grade, and I believe all single weight oils are full mineral oil. The richer a mixture run, the colder temps and condensation in the oil, the more sludge, other things being equal. Frequent oil changes, mineral AD oil is your friend for avoiding sludge. On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:46 PM, John Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote: > Kelly would be a better confirmation but if it was a heavy gray paste with > slight green cast - its sounds like the lead that is in 100LL avgas. It is > particularly severe in Rotax tight tolerance engines. Because of the > relative weight it settles out. > > On Oct 15, 2011 6:58 PM, "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com> wrote: >> >> I am betting it was 100% metal...... As in lead... >> >> do not archive >> >> >> Ben Haas >> N801BH >> www.haaspowerair.com >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Service report >> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:02:13 -0400 >> >> >> It has been 360 hrs and four years since my prop was off the plane. I had >> to replace my alt belt and was shocked by the amount of sludge caked inside >> the crank. This the stuff that will corrode the crank from within. >> >> I cycle my prop almost at every flight. >> >> I had to build a scraper from a piece of alumn strap to scrape the sludge. >> No amount of thinner would clean it. The stuff was grey (i assume metal) >> and most of it was the consistency of proseal. Some was dry and came off >> powdery like. >> >> I am thinking that two years and couple hundred hours might be the good >> time to clean the crank. >> >> It would be nice to know other people experiences. >> >> Do not arch======================bsp;- >> MATRON========================;- List Contsp;&nb====== >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 >> Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! >> ConsumerLifestyles.org >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > >




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