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1. 07:41 AM - Re: Recreational pilot (Rick Beebe)
2. 07:58 AM - Re: Recreational pilot (Kelly McMullen)
3. 10:37 AM - Navworx update (Rob Kermanj)
4. 03:03 PM - Re: Navworx update (Bill Watson)
5. 06:10 PM - Re: Navworx update (Bob Leffler)
6. 06:55 PM - Re: Navworx update (Danny Riggs)
7. 10:14 PM - Re: Navworx update (Bill Watson)
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| Subject: | Re: Recreational pilot |
No, this is a different animal. They're not talking about adding another
category of aircraft. And actually there's some confusion in the
original message. It doesn't just apply to pilots with Recreational
licenses.
EAA and FAA are going to submit, in January, a proposal to the FAA that
would let pilots flying recreationally to self-certify. Under the
proposed exemption, pilots holding recreational, private, commercial, or
airline transport pilot certificates who only fly recreationally could
use the same drivers license medical self-certification standard
currently available to sport pilots. The limitations would be that the
plane has to have 180hp or less, fixed gear, max 4 seats, in daylight
VFR, with up to one passenger. The pilot will have to take and pass an
on-online course that shows they understand the ramifications of
self-certification (it'll be similar to the ADIZ course in size and
difficulty I think). You'll get a card to carry that shows you've passed.
The specs on the aircraft were derived from the limitations imposed on
Rec pilots as that's something the FAA is comfortable with.
Since the proposal hasn't been submitted yet, the details could, of
course, change.
--Rick
On 10/30/2011 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> I would expect the FAA to place the same stringent requirements on a
> qualifying aircraft as they do for Light Sport. That is that from
> certification forward it must have met the requirements of the category
> at all times. In other words they don't let you go back and forth
> between categories. Hard to say if they would place a gross wt limit on
> the category...don't recall if there ever was one. There are some
> numbers that Vans has for the prototype with Continental IO-360 engine
> as to performance. I don't believe that engine has ever been derated
> below 195hp.
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| Subject: | Re: Recreational pilot |
Hi Rick,
I understand that the EAA and AOPA are wanting to define it as a set
of rules that apply to a pilot. Odds are very strong that the FAA will
want to apply it to a set of aircraft qualifying requirements, because
that is much easier for them to draw the line in the sand. (inspectors
can more easily determine if an airplane conforms than if a pilot
does) I was under the impression that the request had been submitted.
Otherwise, why all the press hoopla for a non-submittal?
Kelly
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Rick Beebe <richard.beebe@yale.edu> wrote:
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> No, this is a different animal. They're not talking about adding another
> category of aircraft. And actually there's some confusion in the original
> message. It doesn't just apply to pilots with Recreational licenses.
>
> EAA and FAA are going to submit, in January, a proposal to the FAA that
> would let pilots flying recreationally to self-certify. Under the proposed
> exemption, pilots holding recreational, private, commercial, or airline
> transport pilot certificates who only fly recreationally could use the same
> drivers license medical self-certification standard currently available to
> sport pilots. The limitations would be that the plane has to have 180hp or
> less, fixed gear, max 4 seats, in daylight VFR, with up to one passenger.
> The pilot will have to take and pass an on-online course that shows they
> understand the ramifications of self-certification (it'll be similar to the
> ADIZ course in size and difficulty I think). You'll get a card to carry that
> shows you've passed.
>
> The specs on the aircraft were derived from the limitations imposed on Rec
> pilots as that's something the FAA is comfortable with.
>
> Since the proposal hasn't been submitted yet, the details could, of course,
> change.
>
> --Rick
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I have installed my Navwox ADS-B and am very pleased with it's
performance.
Bill Moffit at Navwox helped me configure the unit once I had installed
it. He dialed into my computer attached to the maintenance port and did
the setup remotely. We did the setup around 7:00 PM on a Friday which
I thought was awfully nice of him to volunteer.
The installation required one additional TXP and one GPS antenna. I now
count 11 antennas installed on my plane.
I was concerned about the TXP antenna's location and I can report that I
do not have any issues with it's location under the belly, between the
MB antenna and about 3' from the VOR/ILS antennas.
The weather information is identical to XM's nexrad and metars, at least
on my display. Nexrad seems to refresh every 5 minutes. My XM did not
refresh in clouds, when I needed it the most, and I am hoping that ADS-B
weather will update normally, regardless of flight conditions. I
noticed that the weather resolution is much coarser when compared with
XM on the same display.
The ADS-B box is connected to an old GRT (first generation) and kudos to
GRT for keeping up with the technology. I did not have to purchase a
new display to use Navworx. GRT had already incorporated the needed
software in one of their routine software updates.
I find the traffic display to be dead accurate. I am aware of the
traffic around me before the Center calls them out. Attached is a photo
of the traffic display. Traffic Alert on the display only opens when
traffic is within 2 miles of my position.
Rob kermanj
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx update |
Can't wait... any sense of out their shipments are running? I ordered
Sept 30. Meant to call them today.
Bill "I love my panel, I love my engine, I love the RV10" Watson
On 11/4/2011 1:30 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
> I have installed my Navwox ADS-B and am very pleased with it's
> performance.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx update |
It took 6-8 weeks to get mine. I ordered in June thinking I would miss the osh
rush. No such luck.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 4, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
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> Can't wait... any sense of out their shipments are running? I ordered Sept 30.
Meant to call them today.
>
> Bill "I love my panel, I love my engine, I love the RV10" Watson
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> On 11/4/2011 1:30 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
>> I have installed my Navwox ADS-B and am very pleased with it's performance.
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How much are they?
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Navworx update
> From: rv@thelefflers.com
> Date: Fri=2C 4 Nov 2011 21:06:01 -0400
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> It took 6-8 weeks to get mine. I ordered in June thinking I would miss t
he osh rush. No such luck.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 4=2C 2011=2C at 6:00 PM=2C Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wro
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> > Can't wait... any sense of out their shipments are running? I ordered
Sept 30. Meant to call them today.
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> > Bill "I love my panel=2C I love my engine=2C I love the RV10" Watson
> >
> >
> > On 11/4/2011 1:30 PM=2C Rob Kermanj wrote:
> >> I have installed my Navwox ADS-B and am very pleased with it's perform
ance.
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx update |
$2,500
On 11/4/2011 9:53 PM, Danny Riggs wrote:
> How much are they?
>
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Navworx update
> > From: rv@thelefflers.com
> > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:06:01 -0400
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> > It took 6-8 weeks to get mine. I ordered in June thinking I would
> miss the osh rush. No such luck.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Nov 4, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Can't wait... any sense of out their shipments are running? I
> ordered Sept 30. Meant to call them today.
> > >
> > > Bill "I love my panel, I love my engine, I love the RV10" Watson
> > >
> > >
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