---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/15/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:22 AM - What's Your Contribution Used For? (Matt Dralle) 1. 04:12 AM - Re: Panel Upgrade AFS 5500S screens (Ralph E. Capen) 2. 04:48 AM - Re: 40533 First Flight (rv10flyer) 3. 04:53 AM - Re: The rising cost of GA (jkreidler) 4. 05:06 AM - Re: Re: The rising cost of GA (Tim Olson) 5. 05:17 AM - Re: The rising cost of GA (jkreidler) 6. 11:22 AM - Yves Rossy: Jetman (Jae Chang) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:26 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV10-List: What's Your Contribution Used For? Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... 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Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:18 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Panel Upgrade AFS 5500S screens Nice! -----Original Message----- >From: Geoff Combs >Sent: Nov 14, 2011 6:09 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Panel Upgrade AFS 5500S screens > >It is at the bottom of the page > > >Geoff Combs >President > >614-834-5227p >614-834-5230f >www.aerosportmodeling.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen >Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 5:45 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Panel Upgrade AFS 5500S screens > >--> > >Geoff, > >How 'bout a picture? Maybe a before and after..... > >"Enquiring minds" > >Ralph > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: aerosport1 >>Sent: Nov 13, 2011 9:53 PM >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RV10-List: Panel Upgrade AFS 5500S screens >> >>--> >> >>Got my panel upgraded with the new AFS 5500 screens. The new screens >>are awesome. A little learning curve from the 4500S screens. Rob has done a >great job with the new screens. The user interface is really nice. >>It takes playing with them and understanding the layout. Once you >>understand them it is really easy and well organized. The more I played >with them the more I like them. I decided to stay with the same size screens >as the 4500S. The 5600 would be wonderful but did not feel like redoing the >entire panel at this time. >> >>They have some great features and upgrades. Here are a couple pictures. >>I only have about 30 minutes flying them because of really bad winds here >in Ohio the last 2 days. Another thing is the AFS support is fantastic. >> >>Geoff >> >>-------- >>Geoff Combs >> RV-10 QB N829GW >>Flying >>40033 >> >> >> >> >>Read this topic online here: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357787#357787 >> >> >> >> >>Attachments: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com//files/5500_2_142.jpg >>http://forums.matronics.com//files/5500_1_172.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:27 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: 40533 First Flight From: "rv10flyer" Congratulations Jae! Looking forward to meeting more great rv pilots and seeing the country with the family. Aw today, KY to FL tomorrow on the HD Road King(750 lbs EW, so Light Sport and looks like some ifr along the way). Transition trng then first flight after Thanksgiving. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Bldr# 40983SB Final assembly, aw cert, transition training with David Maib. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357986#357986 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:21 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: The rising cost of GA From: "jkreidler" I think the FAA has been using the revenues from paper publications to supplement the digital information. I understand they did not profit from the paper charts, but profit and covering costs are separate. Since many of us have selected digital without purchasing paper backups, this seems to be a likely outcome. With digital they no longer have a way to recover costs (in the current model). Jason -------- Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler N44YH - Flying - #40617 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357987#357987 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: The rising cost of GA From: Tim Olson But, while you're probably correct, there is still no reason to disallow end user purchases. It could be done via the current website where they sell paper charts. Ive bought that way before so why could I not by a digital sectional myself? Tim On Nov 15, 2011, at 6:48 AM, "jkreidler" wrote: > > I think the FAA has been using the revenues from paper publications to supplement the digital information. I understand they did not profit from the paper charts, but profit and covering costs are separate. Since many of us have selected digital without purchasing paper backups, this seems to be a likely outcome. With digital they no longer have a way to recover costs (in the current model). > > Jason > > -------- > Jason Kreidler > 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI > Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler > N44YH - Flying - #40617 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357987#357987 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:31 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: The rising cost of GA From: "jkreidler" Yup, but like I said in the 'current model'. I fully agree... -------- Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler N44YH - Flying - #40617 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357990#357990 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:22:03 AM PST US From: Jae Chang Subject: RV10-List: Yves Rossy: Jetman http://www.ted.com/talks/yves_rossy_fly_with_the_jetman.html Man, I feel kind of dumb now. I didnt need the avionics, engine, prop, tail, fuse or finishing kits - just the wing kit! 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