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1. 04:24 PM - Why you don't just strap the stick back... (Tim Olson)
2. 04:38 PM - Re: Why you don't just strap the stick back... (Phillip Perry)
3. 07:20 PM - Re: Why you don't just strap the stick back... (orchidman)
4. 08:04 PM - Re: Re: Why you don't just strap the stick back... (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | Why you don't just strap the stick back... |
After Sun-N-Fun, I read some things about proper methods of
tying down that made some real sense. Later, I also wrote
some things too, to pass along the word.
One disturbing thing I see at OSH and other places when I
see RV's tied down, is that many builders simply strap their
stick back with the seatbelt to secure the stick, locking
the ailerons and elevators.
Here's a video that shows exactly why that's a dumb idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-wjtP90d_g
If the above link doesn't work, go to youtube and search for
"Accidental VTOL Takeoff" posted by "MessedUpShet".
On my site, I show my rudder gust lock, with a strap
that holds the stick in the neutral position (both
axis) when I use the seat belt to pull the stick back.
That should help prevent such a thing to some degree.
Another thing that can cause you problems is having the
flaps left down. If you have problems keeping people
from stepping on your flaps, then great, put them down
when boarding and disembarking the plane. But, once
you're ready to leave the plane, put them up, because
in a wind storm, the flaps will work as designed...
They'll create extra drag, to allow the wind to push
your plane harder against it's tiedowns, and by trapping
the air under the wing it can add more lift.
Just some common sense things to pass along regarding
tying down...but the video was a real eye opener for me.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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| Subject: | Re: Why you don't just strap the stick back... |
Agreed. I always thought that was a dumb idea.
I used to get in the sim and set the wind speed dead on the nose at a
steady couple of knots above stalling speed.
Back on the stick and you're up.
Back further on the stick and you're up and going backwards.
Then forward on the stick and you're decending and picking up enough speed
to creep forward to your original takeoff point.
Fun exercise in the sim. I don't think it would be nearly as much fun with
the turbulence and unpredictable winds in real life.
Phil
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> After Sun-N-Fun, I read some things about proper methods of
> tying down that made some real sense. Later, I also wrote
> some things too, to pass along the word.
>
> One disturbing thing I see at OSH and other places when I
> see RV's tied down, is that many builders simply strap their
> stick back with the seatbelt to secure the stick, locking
> the ailerons and elevators.
>
> Here's a video that shows exactly why that's a dumb idea.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=O-wjtP90d_g<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-wjtP90d_g>
>
> If the above link doesn't work, go to youtube and search for
> "Accidental VTOL Takeoff" posted by "MessedUpShet".
>
> On my site, I show my rudder gust lock, with a strap
> that holds the stick in the neutral position (both
> axis) when I use the seat belt to pull the stick back.
> That should help prevent such a thing to some degree.
>
> Another thing that can cause you problems is having the
> flaps left down. If you have problems keeping people
> from stepping on your flaps, then great, put them down
> when boarding and disembarking the plane. But, once
> you're ready to leave the plane, put them up, because
> in a wind storm, the flaps will work as designed...
> They'll create extra drag, to allow the wind to push
> your plane harder against it's tiedowns, and by trapping
> the air under the wing it can add more lift.
>
> Just some common sense things to pass along regarding
> tying down...but the video was a real eye opener for me.
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Why you don't just strap the stick back... |
Tim,
Do you have a quick link to your page.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358340#358340
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| Subject: | Re: Why you don't just strap the stick back... |
There are better resources out there than me but here is my gust lock.
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/accessories/control_locks/index.html
And here is a tiedown write up that had the tiedown tips at the bottom.
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/accessories/tiedowns/index.html
Tim
On Nov 17, 2011, at 9:17 PM, "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
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> Tim,
> Do you have a quick link to your page.
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> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N2GB Flying)
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358340#358340
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