RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 11/18/11


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:52 AM - Control stick straps (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
     2. 08:54 AM - Everyone wants Map subscriptions... (Tim Olson)
     3. 11:36 AM - Re: Control stick straps (Kelly McMullen)
     4. 01:01 PM - Re: Everyone wants Map subscriptions... (Albert Gardner)
     5. 02:43 PM - Re: Everyone wants Map subscriptions... (Robin Marks)
     6. 08:03 PM - Re: Everyone wants Map subscriptions... (Albert Gardner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:52:10 AM PST US
    From: "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" <tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero>
    Subject: Control stick straps
    I have the Aviation Tech Products control gust lock and it's great for the rudder. The small strap they provide to secure the stick, though, is just not strong enough. I have a heavy-duty elastic velcro strap that I wrap ar ound it several times and that does the job holding the elevator and ailero ns at neutral. Actually, what I'm using is a "Blousing Boot Band" from my BDUs . . . Like these: http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productID=7786&TabID=548 http://www.kellac.com/h/Velcro-Blousing-Straps.html Works well. I could never bring myself to use the seatbelt to secure the stick ' too many flashbacks to flying the Warrior . . . Tim N52KS


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    Time: 08:54:34 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Everyone wants Map subscriptions...
    It's been amazing to watch the last few years as subscription based pricing takes over the world as vendors rush to find a way to keep their hands in your pockets. It's not just in aviation. I've used Navigon (US and Canada) for turn-by-turn direction maps on my iphone and ipad for a while now. When I bought it, it was not a super cheap app, but the policy was lifetime map updates. Well, guess who buys them....Garmin. Now, suddenly, if you allow your iphone/ipad to be upgraded to the new 2.0 release of the app, your stuck in a $15/quarter map subscription program....so the app that maybe cost $60 forever, is now $60/year. That doesn't sound like Garmin, does it? Something tells me that with the advent of such pricing schemes, and the loss of government flight data for free, is going to bring a lot of drivers and pilots to just simply not care about flying or driving with updated maps and charts. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD


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    Time: 11:36:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Control stick straps
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    I don't know, but seems to me that it would be preferable to have elevators in full nose down pitch position, rather than neutral. If a headwind comes up, that wants to raise the tail, but it is small in relation to whole aircraft, and pushes the nose down, decreasing angle of attack. If tail wind, it keeps the wind out from under the surfaces. In either case, tending to avoid having the wings want to fly. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy < tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero> wrote: > I have the Aviation Tech Products control gust lock and it's great for th e > rudder. The small strap they provide to secure the stick, though, is jus t > not strong enough. I have a heavy-duty elastic velcro strap that I wrap > around it several times and that does the job holding the elevator and > ailerons at neutral. > > Actually, what I'm using is a "Blousing Boot Band" from my BDUs . . . Lik e > these: > http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productID=7786&TabID=548 > http://www.kellac.com/h/Velcro-Blousing-Straps.html > Works well. > > I could never bring myself to use the seatbelt to secure the stick ' to o > many flashbacks to flying the Warrior . . . > > Tim > N52KS > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 01:01:37 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Everyone wants Map subscriptions...
    In conjunction with Oshkosh this year I thought I'd fly to the portion of the 48 states I had not been to as well as see some of the ones I had. My RV-10 has a Garmin 496 for navigation and weather. As I was getting ready to order the sectionals I would need my wife surprised me with an ipad. I added the Bad Elf GPS to it and subscribed to Foreflight VFR and Flight Guides e version. At Oshkosh I upgraded the 496 database and headed out. The ipad was great and didn't take too long to be comfortable with switching from charts to airport diagrams as necessary. I already had mobile hotspot which was very handy as wifi wasn't always available to check weather on the ground. After that trip this is my conclusion as to what's necessary for VFR flight: GPS: Very Necessary, for navigation either the Garmin or the ipad was OK but ipad was easier to keep current and upgrades were cheaper. The 496 fed the autopilot however. The ipad moving map was very nice, names of towns, lakes, etc. Charts: the electronic charts are invaluable, always current and available. Weather: In flight Garmin 496 weather was OK but the ipad was better especially for planning. Airport Info: Not happy with the FAA A/FD on Foreflight, much prefer Flight Guides offering. In short, I am sold on the ipad although I haven't figured out where to put it, for now it lays in the seat or is held by someone else. It's a hands-on device so it needs to be near. I like the Foreflight app but several friends use WingX and are sold on it. For VFR I don't see that one has much advantage over the other. Flight Guide is adding moving map and weather I understand and I like the ipad app far, far better than their new larger paper diagrams. I think we could easily overload ourselves with gadgets even if they are neat as hell but VFR flying was done for years with little more than a compass and highway map. For me, minimum equipment is ipad with GPS and an app with charts, airport info and weather. As a bonus I loaded the Pilots Operating Handbook on the ipad. Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 02:43:04 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Everyone wants Map subscriptions...
    now that is what I call a trip! What is that, 8,000 miles? Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 12:58 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Everyone wants Map subscriptions... In conjunction with Oshkosh this year I thought I'd fly to the portion of the 48 states I had not been to as well as see some of the ones I had. My RV-10 has a Garmin 496 for navigation and weather. As I was getting ready to order the sectionals I would need my wife surprised me with an ipad. I added the Bad Elf GPS to it and subscribed to Foreflight VFR and Flight Guides e version. At Oshkosh I upgraded the 496 database and headed out. The ipad was great and didn't take too long to be comfortable with switching from charts to airport diagrams as necessary. I already had mobile hotspot which was very handy as wifi wasn't always available to check weather on the ground. After that trip this is my conclusion as to what's necessary for VFR flight: GPS: Very Necessary, for navigation either the Garmin or the ipad was OK but ipad was easier to keep current and upgrades were cheaper. The 496 fed the autopilot however. The ipad moving map was very nice, names of towns, lakes, etc. Charts: the electronic charts are invaluable, always current and available. Weather: In flight Garmin 496 weather was OK but the ipad was better especially for planning. Airport Info: Not happy with the FAA A/FD on Foreflight, much prefer Flight Guides offering. In short, I am sold on the ipad although I haven't figured out where to put it, for now it lays in the seat or is held by someone else. It's a hands-on device so it needs to be near. I like the Foreflight app but several friends use WingX and are sold on it. For VFR I don't see that one has much advantage over the other. Flight Guide is adding moving map and weather I understand and I like the ipad app far, far better than their new larger paper diagrams. I think we could easily overload ourselves with gadgets even if they are neat as hell but VFR flying was done for years with little more than a compass and highway map. For me, minimum equipment is ipad with GPS and an app with charts, airport info and weather. As a bonus I loaded the Pilots Operating Handbook on the ipad. Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 08:03:49 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Everyone wants Map subscriptions...
    9800 and 89 hrs, all of it much fun and lots of weather in the east. Albert now that is what I call a trip! What is that, 8,000 miles? Robin Do Not Archive




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