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1. 06:40 AM - Fiberglass Body Work Question (Michael Kraus)
2. 06:59 AM - Re: Fiberglass Body Work Question (Phil Perry)
3. 07:01 AM - Re: Fiberglass Body Work Question (Rene Felker)
4. 07:27 AM - Re: Fiberglass Body Work Question (DLM)
5. 07:48 AM - Re: Fiberglass Body Work Question (Michael Kraus)
6. 07:48 AM - RV-10 in Sport Aviation this month (Pascal)
7. 08:34 AM - Re: Fiberglass Body Work Question (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
8. 09:23 AM - Re: Fiberglass Body Work Question (Robin Marks)
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10. 10:03 AM - Fuel Transducers - All at once (Phillip Perry)
11. 10:13 AM - Re: Fiberglass Body Work Question (DLM)
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| Subject: | Fiberglass Body Work Question |
I am finish sanding my fiberglass top to window seam on my RV-10. In a few
areas, to maintain a smooth finish to the top, I have sanded through the
fiberglass cloth that covers the joint to the windows.
My question is, will this cause a crack long term after paint, or do you
think it will be OK? Should I lay up a small layer of glass and re-fill?
My worry is, I will then just sand back through that layer too to get a
smooth transition. I suppose I could build it up back out further.
Thoughts?
Thanks
-Mike Kraus
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Body Work Question |
I was looking at mine the other day and I'm going to have to build it furthe
r out too. The windscreen it at least 1/8" proud and I'll bet it's more tha
n that if I really measured it.
I'm planning on laying some glass across the gap to give the balloons some s
upport when they go down.
Phil
On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> wrot
e:
> I am finish sanding my fiberglass top to window seam on my RV-10. In a fe
w areas, to maintain a smooth finish to the top, I have sanded through the f
iberglass cloth that covers the joint to the windows.
>
> My question is, will this cause a crack long term after paint, or do you t
hink it will be OK? Should I lay up a small layer of glass and re-fill? My
worry is, I will then just sand back through that layer too to get a smooth
transition. I suppose I could build it up back out further.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks
> -Mike Kraus
>
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| Subject: | Fiberglass Body Work Question |
That happened to me and I DID NOT go back and rework it. I have cracks
around my windows. I was worried about that when I was building....but now
that I am flying (3 years) it does not bother me...but that is me, I would
just as soon were dirty blue jeans, old t-shirts, and not use a comb...you
may be different. :)
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:37 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Fiberglass Body Work Question
I am finish sanding my fiberglass top to window seam on my RV-10. In a few
areas, to maintain a smooth finish to the top, I have sanded through the
fiberglass cloth that covers the joint to the windows.
My question is, will this cause a crack long term after paint, or do you
think it will be OK? Should I lay up a small layer of glass and re-fill?
My worry is, I will then just sand back through that layer too to get a
smooth transition. I suppose I could build it up back out further.
Thoughts?
Thanks
-Mike Kraus
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| Subject: | Fiberglass Body Work Question |
Two (one inch strip) layers of E-glass on a 45 bias around the windows and
on fiberglass embedded blinds will prevent later show through, due to a few
hundred hours of vibration
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fiberglass Body Work Question
That happened to me and I DID NOT go back and rework it. I have cracks
around my windows. I was worried about that when I was building....but now
that I am flying (3 years) it does not bother me...but that is me, I would
just as soon were dirty blue jeans, old t-shirts, and not use a comb...you
may be different. :)
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:37 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Fiberglass Body Work Question
I am finish sanding my fiberglass top to window seam on my RV-10. In a few
areas, to maintain a smooth finish to the top, I have sanded through the
fiberglass cloth that covers the joint to the windows.
My question is, will this cause a crack long term after paint, or do you
think it will be OK? Should I lay up a small layer of glass and re-fill?
My worry is, I will then just sand back through that layer too to get a
smooth transition. I suppose I could build it up back out further.
Thoughts?
Thanks
-Mike Kraus
www.aeroelectric.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Body Work Question |
Yes, that is what I did. Then I sanded and filled to get a nice finish and I
sanded through the glass in a few spots. Issue, or no issue?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 23, 2011, at 10:24 AM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com> wrote:
> Two (one inch strip) layers of E-glass on a 45 bias around the windows and
on fiberglass embedded blinds will prevent later show through, due to a few
hundred hours of vibration
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:58 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fiberglass Body Work Question
>
> That happened to me and I DID NOT go back and rework it. I have cracks ar
ound my windows. I was worried about that when I was building
..but now that I am flying (3 years) it does not bother me
.but that is me, I would just as soon were dirty blue jeans, old t-shirts
, and not use a comb..you may be different. :)
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:37 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Fiberglass Body Work Question
>
> I am finish sanding my fiberglass top to window seam on my RV-10. In a fe
w areas, to maintain a smooth finish to the top, I have sanded through the f
iberglass cloth that covers the joint to the windows.
>
> My question is, will this cause a crack long term after paint, or do you t
hink it will be OK? Should I lay up a small layer of glass and re-fill? My
worry is, I will then just sand back through that layer too to get a smooth
transition. I suppose I could build it up back out further.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks
> -Mike Kraus
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 in Sport Aviation this month |
http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201112#pg36
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Body Work Question |
One of the cardinal rules you don't want to break when building a composite airplane
is that you compromise the integrity of the structure when you sand down
and cut into and remove glass,,,, or even fracture the strands of the glass.
Whether or not that will have any significant impact of the area in question on
our -10's canopy, I don't think anyone here can answer unless they know the
number of lay-ups, glass used, epoxy used, testing done,,,on and on. I installed
my windows last week (flox,,,,,,no Weld-On for me) and will fair them in as
best as possible with BID glass, flox, and micro. They may not sit perfectly
flush with the canopy but I will leave well enough alone.
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
Howell, MI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:37:04 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Fiberglass Body Work Question
Fiberglass Body Work Question I am finish sanding my fiberglass top to window seam
on my RV-10. In a few areas, to maintain a smooth finish to the top, I have
sanded through the fiberglass cloth that covers the joint to the windows.
My question is, will this cause a crack long term after paint, or do you think
it will be OK? Should I lay up a small layer of glass and re-fill? My worry is,
I will then just sand back through that layer too to get a smooth transition.
I suppose I could build it up back out further.
Thoughts?
Thanks
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| Subject: | Foldable scooter |
Who agrees with me that Tim O. should build his own folding scooter from le
ft-over parts? : )
Tim D-T
N52KS
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| Subject: | Fuel Transducers - All at once |
I've done some work that others approaching the FWF section might benefit
from. I've compiled all the photos I can find of fuel flow transducer
locations.
There seems to be a theme if you flip through them.
If you still have FWF work ahead of you, tuck these photos away and they'll
make sense later on.
Phil
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| Subject: | Fiberglass Body Work Question |
No issue if it's the extra glass; probably not an issue in any case. I used
1 inch e-glass tapes from Aircraft Spruce over the blinds.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fiberglass Body Work Question
Yes, that is what I did. Then I sanded and filled to get a nice finish and
I sanded through the glass in a few spots. Issue, or no issue?
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On Nov 23, 2011, at 10:24 AM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com> wrote:
Two (one inch strip) layers of E-glass on a 45 bias around the windows and
on fiberglass embedded blinds will prevent later show through, due to a few
hundred hours of vibration
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fiberglass Body Work Question
That happened to me and I DID NOT go back and rework it. I have cracks
around my windows. I was worried about that when I was building....but now
that I am flying (3 years) it does not bother me...but that is me, I would
just as soon were dirty blue jeans, old t-shirts, and not use a comb...you
may be different. :)
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:37 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Fiberglass Body Work Question
I am finish sanding my fiberglass top to window seam on my RV-10. In a few
areas, to maintain a smooth finish to the top, I have sanded through the
fiberglass cloth that covers the joint to the windows.
My question is, will this cause a crack long term after paint, or do you
think it will be OK? Should I lay up a small layer of glass and re-fill?
My worry is, I will then just sand back through that layer too to get a
smooth transition. I suppose I could build it up back out further.
Thoughts?
Thanks
-Mike Kraus
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| Subject: | RV-10 in Sport Aviation this month |
I guess he liked the plane. :-)
Hard to get a better review.
Robin
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atronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:45 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 in Sport Aviation this month
http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201112#pg36
rsbooks.com>
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| Subject: | Foldable scooter |
Don't waste your time on a foldable scooter. Just bolt on an IO-360 and som
e goggles.
Robin
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atronics.com] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Foldable scooter
Who agrees with me that Tim O. should build his own folding scooter from le
ft-over parts? : )
Tim D-T
N52KS
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Transducers - All at once |
I know some others have not shared my good luck, but I put mine in the stock Van's
location, and, outside of reading slightly high (conservative direction) when
the aux fuel pump is on, it works perfectly.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359029#359029
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| Subject: | Re: Foldable scooter |
I'm not sure he should... but I'm pretty certain he could.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
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On Nov 23, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
> Who agrees with me that Tim O. should build his own folding scooter
> from left-over parts? : )
>
> Tim D-T
> N52KS
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 in Sport Aviation this month |
I keep telling people that the '10 is better than I thought it would be.
Yes, it is that good.
Thanks Van!
Bill "flying out for turkey" Watson
On 11/23/2011 1:12 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> I guess he liked the plane. :-)
>
> Hard to get a better review.
>
> Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Transducers - All at once |
That's my experience also. I'm using the GRT fuel flow device (not red
box) and the 200 setting on the GRT EIS. Overall, it seems to be
slightly conservative compared to actual consumption. The effect of the
boost pump can be observed just by watching fuel flow readings.
I wish I had done something different but since the error is in the
right direction and boost pump use is minimal, I'll just stay with it as is.
Bill
On 11/23/2011 2:09 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Turner"<bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>
> I know some others have not shared my good luck, but I put mine in the stock
Van's location, and, outside of reading slightly high (conservative direction)
when the aux fuel pump is on, it works perfectly.
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
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| Subject: | box x headset for sale |
I have a pair of Bose X for sale. I bought one from one of our guys on
this list for $525 including shipping. Mine is for sale at $500
including 2nd day FedEx shipping. It is about 6 years old but in
excellent condition. The pads have been replaced (don't know when; at
one of the sun/fun events).
I have bought a Bose A20 and I think that my wife deserves her own set
too.
Email me offline if you are interested.
Thanks
Rob Kermanj
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