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1. 05:23 AM - Re: ipad Accessory (jkreidler)
2. 05:45 AM - Re: Re: ipad Accessory (Seano)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Re: ipad Accessory (Tim Olson)
4. 06:42 AM - Re: ipad Accessory (jkreidler)
5. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: ipad Accessory (Kelly McMullen)
6. 07:35 AM - Re: Re: ipad Accessory (Bill Watson)
7. 08:10 AM - Re: Re: ipad Accessory (Tim Olson)
8. 10:58 AM - Re: Re: ipad Accessory (Bill Watson)
9. 12:10 PM - Re: Re: ipad Accessory (Tim Olson)
10. 01:43 PM - Re: RV-10 Flap Positioner (larson36@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: ipad Accessory |
I think there is a great opportunity for a new feature or app. For the most part
as your chugging along you just get handed off from frequency to frequency.
The hardest part can be just understanding the name of the next place youre
being handed off to. It would be really cool if I had an app that would look
at my current position, altitude, and direction of flight and give me a short
list of what frequency (and name) I could expect next. I know going into an airport
it is really nice to have a heads up and all of the radios tuned, we are
able to do this because we have plates which tell us all of the frequencies
in order. Too bad we cant have this same thing in the air as we cross from center
to center.
I see it as a list of potential next frequencies and names with a check box next
to each one, once I am given the next frequency I check the box, it gets added
to the list and the next set of potential frequencies are dynamically listed.
Oh yea, if it makes you feel better you could also put a spinner box there
for the current barometer. Just a thought.
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Jason Kreidler
4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
N44YH - Flying - #40617
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| Subject: | Re: ipad Accessory |
Some of the EFIS's show nearest ATC. My G3X shows it from the nearest menu.
I use this a lot if I'm using flight following in the west and check-on or
off with the new centers. It states the name of the facility and frequency.
Also, in the info area I have closest barometer as one of my selections so
it is constantly updating as I'm flying cross-country.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jkreidler" <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: ipad Accessory
> <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
>
> I think there is a great opportunity for a new feature or app. For the
> most part as your chugging along you just get handed off from frequency to
> frequency. The hardest part can be just understanding the name of the
> next place you?Tre being handed off to. It would be really cool if I had
> an app that would look at my current position, altitude, and direction of
> flight and give me a short list of what frequency (and name) I could
> expect next. I know going into an airport it is really nice to have a
> heads up and all of the radios tuned, we are able to do this because we
> have plates which tell us all of the frequencies in order. Too bad we
> can?Tt have this same thing in the air as we cross from center to center.
>
> I see it as a list of potential next frequencies and names with a check
> box next to each one, once I am given the next frequency I check the box,
> it gets added to the list and the next set of potential frequencies are
> dynamically listed. Oh yea, if it makes you feel better you could also
> put a spinner box there for the current barometer. Just a thought?.
>
> --------
> Jason Kreidler
> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
> N44YH - Flying - #40617
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360902#360902
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ipad Accessory |
I was going to say the same thing. I often hit NRST - ATC and
try to pre-load the next handoff. And I also do NRST - WX and
keep the altimeter updated. None of this is on the iPad side,
but the EFIS side, so there are good tools out there that
help. And, even though I do GPS direct much of the time, I
still load NRST - VOR and try to keep one tuned in on X/C
flights because if you decide to call and report position or
use FlightWatch, you'll want to report your position in relation
to a VOR...and that way I can have the mileage-to handy.
Tim
On 12/14/2011 7:41 AM, Seano wrote:
>
> Some of the EFIS's show nearest ATC. My G3X shows it from the nearest
> menu. I use this a lot if I'm using flight following in the west and
> check-on or off with the new centers. It states the name of the facility
> and frequency.
>
> Also, in the info area I have closest barometer as one of my selections
> so it is constantly updating as I'm flying cross-country.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jkreidler"
> <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:18 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: ipad Accessory
>
>
>> <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
>>
>> I think there is a great opportunity for a new feature or app. For the
>> most part as your chugging along you just get handed off from
>> frequency to frequency. The hardest part can be just understanding the
>> name of the next place you?Tre being handed off to. It would be
>> really cool if I had an app that would look at my current position,
>> altitude, and direction of flight and give me a short list of what
>> frequency (and name) I could expect next. I know going into an airport
>> it is really nice to have a heads up and all of the radios tuned, we
>> are able to do this because we have plates which tell us all of the
>> frequencies in order. Too bad we can?Tt have this same thing in the
>> air as we cross from center to center.
>>
>> I see it as a list of potential next frequencies and names with a
>> check box next to each one, once I am given the next frequency I check
>> the box, it gets added to the list and the next set of potential
>> frequencies are dynamically listed. Oh yea, if it makes you feel
>> better you could also put a spinner box there for the current
>> barometer. Just a thought?.
>>
>> --------
>> Jason Kreidler
>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
>> N44YH - Flying - #40617
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360902#360902
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: ipad Accessory |
Yup - your both right, the data is available by other means (it is also on the
charts). I was thinking of this more from the standpoint of building a log of
frequencies used. Often on a return flight following the same path you can just
invert you previous paper log and know what to expect. Or of you do the same
flight again and again, having a log keeps you ahead of the game by knowing
what to expect. After all, you never want the airplane to arrive anywhere unless
your head beat it there by a few minutes.
Jason
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Jason Kreidler
4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
N44YH - Flying - #40617
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| Subject: | Re: ipad Accessory |
The difficulty of making this work is that both centers and approach
control combine and de-combine sectors depending on traffic and staffing,
so while the frequency for a give sector is relatively static, it may
change. On the other and IFR Low Enroute charts do give you the published
frequency for center in a given area and do show the center boundaries.
However it isn't unusual for a remote outlet to have a couple frequencies
where that outlet is near a sector boundary, and each sector will use one
of the frequencies..you get to guess which one is right for the direction
you are headed.
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Seano <sean@braunandco.com> wrote:
>
> Some of the EFIS's show nearest ATC. My G3X shows it from the nearest
> menu. I use this a lot if I'm using flight following in the west and
> check-on or off with the new centers. It states the name of the facility
> and frequency.
>
> Also, in the info area I have closest barometer as one of my selections s
o
> it is constantly updating as I'm flying cross-country.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jkreidler" <
> jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.**com <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:18 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: ipad Accessory
>
>
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>> **com <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>>
>>
>> I think there is a great opportunity for a new feature or app. For the
>> most part as your chugging along you just get handed off from frequency
to
>> frequency. The hardest part can be just understanding the name of the n
ext
>> place you?Tre being handed off to. It would be really cool if I had
an
>> app that would look at my current position, altitude, and direction of
>> flight and give me a short list of what frequency (and name) I could exp
ect
>> next. I know going into an airport it is really nice to have a heads up
>> and all of the radios tuned, we are able to do this because we have plat
es
>> which tell us all of the frequencies in order. Too bad we can?Tt hav
e
>> this same thing in the air as we cross from center to center.
>>
>> I see it as a list of potential next frequencies and names with a check
>> box next to each one, once I am given the next frequency I check the box
,
>> it gets added to the list and the next set of potential frequencies are
>> dynamically listed. Oh yea, if it makes you feel better you could also
put
>> a spinner box there for the current barometer. Just a thought?.
>>
>> --------
>> Jason Kreidler
>> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
>> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
>> N44YH - Flying - #40617
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/**viewtopic.php?p=360902#360902<http://for
ums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360902#360902>
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| Subject: | Re: ipad Accessory |
Different strokes...
I have to admit to making little or no effort to anticipate enroute freq
changes (or altimeter settings). Flying the same route a couple of
times, it's amazing how well you can recall stuff, making it easier on
repeat visits.
When things get busy, I focus on the freq and don't worry about picking
up the facility name - if I miss it, "approach" or "center" gets the job
done.
The hardest time to figure out who to call is leaving an uncontrolled
airport in the boonies with the intent of picking up a previously filed
plan in the air. NRST center or approach works but it may take 1 or
more changes before the right ATC facility is engaged. The trick is to
retain the last freq before you land - that usually works the first time.
I try to file direct 100% but 50% of my flying is up against the east
coast where direct IFR is almost impossible around NYC, DC, and the FL
coast. It's still very much airways (!!) and VORs. ForeFlight on the
iPad shines here because I put the clearance directly into the iPad,
then view it on the low enroute chart and translate it into waypoints on
the G430.
e.g. 8NC8 PXT V16 DIXIE RBV JERYY V249 SAX KPN
That was a recent clearance I got in the air. I used to be able to eat
that in the soup while hand flying.... not sure I'm up to that right
now. I know I'll never choose to do that again without an AP.
I'm in the habit of putting the first half of the flight in the G430 and
then just a few waypoints for the 2nd half knowing that things will
change enroute. NYC Tracon will try to cut every corner and straighten
out the flight once there, but the original clearance will be
circuitous. JAX center manages the busy coastal interstate using
airways and altitudes to keep things separate but once the thunder
bumpers get started it's all about deviations to stay out of the clouds
with a lot of VFR traffic mixed in (I really need some traffic
capability, com'on NavWorx!)
Outside of those areas, it's just file direct and often the only ATC
question is "what's your on course heading for that?".
I'm not in the habit of backing myself up by tuning VORs but know I
should. Not using Flight Watch much anymore I guess because it seems
easier to use the on board weather to get the long range picture. But I
haven't really flown in any serious weather for quite awhile so we'll
see how that works. Frankly, XM weather on my G396 was better than XM
on my GRTs but I'm holding my breath until I get ADS-B installed and
then see where I'm at.
Bill "still needing a lot of proficiency work to get up to spec in the
system" Watson
On 12/14/2011 9:03 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I was going to say the same thing. I often hit NRST - ATC and
> try to pre-load the next handoff. And I also do NRST - WX and
> keep the altimeter updated. None of this is on the iPad side,
> but the EFIS side, so there are good tools out there that
> help. And, even though I do GPS direct much of the time, I
> still load NRST - VOR and try to keep one tuned in on X/C
> flights because if you decide to call and report position or
> use FlightWatch, you'll want to report your position in relation
> to a VOR...and that way I can have the mileage-to handy.
> Tim
>
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| Subject: | Re: ipad Accessory |
On 12/14/2011 9:32 AM, Bill Watson wrote:
> The hardest time to figure out who to call is leaving an uncontrolled
> airport in the boonies with the intent of picking up a previously filed
> plan in the air. NRST center or approach works but it may take 1 or more
> changes before the right ATC facility is engaged. The trick is to retain
> the last freq before you land - that usually works the first time.
>
Or to look at the approach plate...the freq used there is
likely the one you'll need.
> Outside of those areas, it's just file direct and often the only ATC
> question is "what's your on course heading for that?".
>
I haven't flown IFR out East, but in all my travels, it's been
rare that I can't go direct, so it's been great. I just don't
try to do it around the major metro areas. When I have, they've
often just vectored me around places like KATL and KMSP though
to their liking.
> I'm not in the habit of backing myself up by tuning VORs but know I
> should. Not using Flight Watch much anymore I guess because it seems
> easier to use the on board weather to get the long range picture. But I
> haven't really flown in any serious weather for quite awhile so we'll
> see how that works. Frankly, XM weather on my G396 was better than XM on
> my GRTs but I'm holding my breath until I get ADS-B installed and then
> see where I'm at.
>
> Bill "still needing a lot of proficiency work to get up to spec in the
> system" Watson
>
My personal prediction is that even once someone gets ADS-B installed,
they'll prefer XM/WSI to ADS-B weather if they're a serious
x/c flier. I don't believe the coverage will be as good down
low and especially pre-takeoff, I think it'll leave people
with a lot to be desired. I remember on one of my trips
back from the Bahamas, if I hadn't seen the WSI picture
on the ground, I'd have cancelled the takeoff and trip.
But seeing it gave me the ability to know exactly how I
was going to route around a big cell as soon as I took off, and
get out of the area. With ADS-B you'd spend more time
worrying when you don't have coverage. So Satellite based
systems will always have a place, for the serious x/c
traveler. I spend very little time doing local flights, so
to me, in-flight WX is probably second to none in the
glass-cockpit capability I need.
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: ipad Accessory |
On 12/14/2011 11:06 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> On 12/14/2011 9:32 AM, Bill Watson wrote:
>
>> The hardest time to figure out who to call is leaving an uncontrolled
>> airport in the boonies with the intent of picking up a previously filed
>> plan in the air. NRST center or approach works but it may take 1 or more
>> changes before the right ATC facility is engaged. The trick is to retain
>> the last freq before you land - that usually works the first time.
>>
>
> Or to look at the approach plate...the freq used there is
> likely the one you'll need.
Yep, another advantage of having -all- the plates easily accessed on the
iPad
>
>
> My personal prediction is that even once someone gets ADS-B installed,
> they'll prefer XM/WSI to ADS-B weather if they're a serious
> x/c flier. I don't believe the coverage will be as good down
> low and especially pre-takeoff, I think it'll leave people
> with a lot to be desired. I remember on one of my trips
> back from the Bahamas, if I hadn't seen the WSI picture
> on the ground, I'd have cancelled the takeoff and trip.
> But seeing it gave me the ability to know exactly how I
> was going to route around a big cell as soon as I took off, and
> get out of the area. With ADS-B you'd spend more time
> worrying when you don't have coverage. So Satellite based
> systems will always have a place, for the serious x/c
> traveler. I spend very little time doing local flights, so
> to me, in-flight WX is probably second to none in the
> glass-cockpit capability I need.
>
Tim, can you say a bit more about ADS-B weather? I'm not at all clear
on how that works but it sounds like on the ground you can't get a
complete picture? Or no picture at all? Weather coverage for only a
limited area?
Bill
BTW - concerning IFR around NYC - often the best technique is to cancel
IFR, then ask for vectors, or stay out of the Class B and just tell them
what you are going to do. You definitely get the sense that the
controllers would often suggest cancellation that if they could but I
don't think they can. J Mac used to write a lot about the frustration
of getting into KHPN from the south.
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| Subject: | Re: ipad Accessory |
>>
> Tim, can you say a bit more about ADS-B weather? I'm not at all clear on
> how that works but it sounds like on the ground you can't get a complete
> picture? Or no picture at all? Weather coverage for only a limited area?
>
> Bill
>
The short answer is basically that since it's all ground tower
based, you won't have reception at low low altitudes in all
areas. I think the basic guarantee is that they're going
to cover XX % of the U.S. at an altitude of 5000 feet or
above. There will be many many areas that work fine
at 1000' AGL. There will be some that work on the ground, too.
But in general, unless there is a GBT (Tower) on your airport,
you will be unlikely to get signal until you're at least off
the ground a little....and in some areas, it may be up to
5000'. At my home airport, it's about 1000' right now.
So, strategic pre-takeoff planning can be difficult unless
you use some 3G service on your iPad, and you may find
that you have various areas where you don't get coverage
in the U.S.
Also, I've found on a few trips that due to icing, the flight
wasn't really "completeable" if you climbed, but by staying
below an overcast at 1000' with 20 mile viz, you could stay
out of the moisture and do fine. I've navigated around
lines of weather and done the "run south 'til you're
past the line and then cut West" thing a few times. It wasn't
quite scud running, because you had good viz. But it's
the same concept. When you are in those situations you
really want to have the WX picture, but if you aren't
going to have reception until 2000' in your area, your
options become limited. To me, you need WX info nearly
100% of the time on days when WX is a factor...and
you'd need it 120% of the time on days when you
really have to work your way around the wx. Sadly,
those are the days that ADS-B may not take good enough
care of you.
Where I see a huge value is for people who have XM/WSI on
one device, but want "free" wx on their EFIS. Having WX
displayed directly on your EFIS is a huge plus. So if you
have a 396, you're doing good. But adding ADS-B on your
EFIS would be better.
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Flap Positioner |
Jesse
Do you still have a RVF10 Flap kit available for sale?
If you do, I am interested.
Larry Klein
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Sat, Dec 10, 2011 8:39 am
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Flap Positioner
Speaking of which, I just went through my boxes of stuff and found that I h
ave 2-4 full flap positioning systems that I will not be using. I will let
them go for a good price (half of Van's price) plus shipping.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Dec 9, 2011, at 11:42 PM, Patrick Pulis wrote:
Could anyone tell me what flap positioning system they've used?
Should I install the stock standard Vans flap positioner or alternatively t
he FPS-Plus Reflex unit from Aircraft Extras Inc.?
Many thanks in anticipation.
Pat
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