---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/20/11: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:31 AM - Re: LED Landing Light in Nose Wheel Pant (johngoodman) 2. 08:18 AM - Re: LED Landing Light in Nose Wheel Pant (rv10flyer) 3. 08:50 AM - Odd Wingtip Choice (Robin Marks) 4. 09:29 AM - Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Ralph E. Capen) 5. 09:42 AM - Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Tim Olson) 6. 09:47 AM - Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Seano) 7. 10:25 AM - Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Bill Watson) 8. 10:41 AM - Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 9. 04:14 PM - Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Scott Schmidt) 10. 04:15 PM - Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Bob Turner) 11. 04:57 PM - Re: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Bill Watson) 12. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Dave Saylor) 13. 05:52 PM - Re: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Robin Marks) 14. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Bill Watson) 15. 08:38 PM - Re: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Scott Schmidt) 16. 09:49 PM - Re: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (Albert Gardner) 17. 09:52 PM - Re: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice (John Gonzalez) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:36 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: LED Landing Light in Nose Wheel Pant From: "johngoodman" I put a Kuntzleman Landing/Taxi/Recognition Light in the cowling below the prop. I don't have a photo, but I'll take one the next time I'm out there. Simple to install and flush with the cowling. It's permanently glassed in and cowl removal only requires one quick disconnect at the firewall. Of course, I do have a different engine setup which contributed to my modified lower cowl. John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361342#361342 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:16 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: LED Landing Light in Nose Wheel Pant From: "rv10flyer" I have DW HID's in outboard LE. I have landed just after sunset and they really illuminate the whole runway well. If I needed more light I would go with the lower cowl LED light. Embed wiring inside lower cowl to a fw connector that could be easily connected before top cowling is installed. I think one of our good RV vendors may come out with a kit soon. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08 Bldr# 40983SB Started 12/1/2009 N715WD Flying 12/1/2011. Paint 2012. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361343#361343 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:09 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice Barnstormers has an RV-10 featured in their weekly eFLYER with an unusual d ecision on building the wing. They seem to have left the entire fiberglass wingtip off the build. Not sure I have ever seen this before (or want to ev er see again). http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=593284 Robin [Description: http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/73/98/.watermarked_e828c5a fa44e6a79687d838d32c015b0.jpg] [Description: http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/24/ff/.watermarked_dd2315f 6bd58be19d5e55828ed45ab55.jpg] Robin ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:59 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice I would suggest this carries a change in the wing loading. Truly an experimentalist. I wonder what Van had to say about this....... -----Original Message----- >From: Robin Marks >Sent: Dec 20, 2011 11:46 AM >To: "rv10-list@matronics.com" >Subject: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice > >Barnstormers has an RV-10 featured in their weekly eFLYER with an unusual decision on building the wing. They seem to have left the entire fiberglass wingtip off the build. Not sure I have ever seen this before (or want to ever see again). > >http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=593284 > >Robin > >[Description: http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/73/98/.watermarked_e828c5afa44e6a79687d838d32c015b0.jpg] >[Description: http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/24/ff/.watermarked_dd2315f6bd58be19d5e55828ed45ab55.jpg] > >Robin ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:39 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice Hmm, I guess that's how you deal with poorly aligned and matched trailing edges with your wingtips when you're REALLLLLLLY lazy. Wonder how many other hidden gems there are on that one. Tim do not archive On 12/20/2011 10:46 AM, Robin Marks wrote: > Barnstormers has an RV-10 featured in their weekly eFLYER with an > unusual decision on building the wing. They seem to have left the entire > fiberglass wingtip off the build. Not sure I have ever seen this before > (or want to ever see again). > > http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=593284 > > Robin > > Description: > http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/73/98/.watermarked_e828c5afa44e6a79687d838d32c015b0.jpg > > Description: > http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/24/ff/.watermarked_dd2315f6bd58be19d5e55828ed45ab55.jpg > > Robin > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:25 AM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice Glareshield head protector is cool. I guess you don't need shoulder harnesses? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:39 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice > > Hmm, I guess that's how you deal with poorly aligned and matched > trailing edges with your wingtips when you're REALLLLLLLY lazy. > Wonder how many other hidden gems there are on that one. > Tim > do not archive > > On 12/20/2011 10:46 AM, Robin Marks wrote: >> Barnstormers has an RV-10 featured in their weekly eFLYER with an >> unusual decision on building the wing. They seem to have left the entire >> fiberglass wingtip off the build. Not sure I have ever seen this before >> (or want to ever see again). >> >> http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=593284 >> >> Robin >> >> Description: >> http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/73/98/.watermarked_e828c5afa44e6a79687d838d32c015b0.jpg >> >> Description: >> http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/24/ff/.watermarked_dd2315f6bd58be19d5e55828ed45ab55.jpg >> >> Robin >> > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:25:26 AM PST US From: Bill Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice Looks like he has matching drawer pulls on interior and exterior side of door. Must have cleaned out the aviation aisle at HomeDepot. On 12/20/2011 12:39 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Hmm, I guess that's how you deal with poorly aligned and matched > trailing edges with your wingtips when you're REALLLLLLLY lazy. > Wonder how many other hidden gems there are on that one. > Tim > do not archive > > On 12/20/2011 10:46 AM, Robin Marks wrote: >> Barnstormers has an RV-10 featured in their weekly eFLYER with an >> unusual decision on building the wing. They seem to have left the entire >> fiberglass wingtip off the build. Not sure I have ever seen this before >> (or want to ever see again). >> >> http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=593284 >> >> Robin >> >> Description: >> http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/73/98/.watermarked_e828c5afa44e6a79687d838d32c015b0.jpg >> >> >> Description: >> http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/24/ff/.watermarked_dd2315f6bd58be19d5e55828ed45ab55.jpg >> >> >> Robin > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:03 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice That's awesome! LMAO. Looks like a build to sell, spec job with only 45TT. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice Glareshield head protector is cool. I guess you don't need shoulder harnesses? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:39 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice > > Hmm, I guess that's how you deal with poorly aligned and matched > trailing edges with your wingtips when you're REALLLLLLLY lazy. > Wonder how many other hidden gems there are on that one. > Tim > do not archive > > On 12/20/2011 10:46 AM, Robin Marks wrote: >> Barnstormers has an RV-10 featured in their weekly eFLYER with an >> unusual decision on building the wing. They seem to have left the entire >> fiberglass wingtip off the build. Not sure I have ever seen this before >> (or want to ever see again). >> >> http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=593284 >> >> Robin >> >> Description: >> http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/73/98/.watermarked_e828c5afa44e6a79687d838d32c015b0.jpg >> >> Description: >> http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/24/ff/.watermarked_dd2315f6bd58be19d5e55828ed45ab55.jpg >> >> Robin >> > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice From: Scott Schmidt Sweet, a clipped wing RV-10. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2011, at 11:37 AM, "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" wrote: > > That's awesome! LMAO. Looks like a build to sell, spec job with only 45TT. > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:45 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice > > > Glareshield head protector is cool. I guess you don't need shoulder harnesses? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Olson" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:39 AM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Odd Wingtip Choice > > >> >> Hmm, I guess that's how you deal with poorly aligned and matched >> trailing edges with your wingtips when you're REALLLLLLLY lazy. >> Wonder how many other hidden gems there are on that one. >> Tim >> do not archive >> >> On 12/20/2011 10:46 AM, Robin Marks wrote: >>> Barnstormers has an RV-10 featured in their weekly eFLYER with an >>> unusual decision on building the wing. They seem to have left the entire >>> fiberglass wingtip off the build. Not sure I have ever seen this before >>> (or want to ever see again). >>> >>> http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=593284 >>> >>> Robin >>> >>> Description: >>> http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/73/98/.watermarked_e828c5afa44e6a79687d838d32c015b0.jpg >>> >>> Description: >>> http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/24/ff/.watermarked_dd2315f6bd58be19d5e55828ed45ab55.jpg >>> >>> Robin >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:06 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice From: "Bob Turner" Anyone see a control for alternate induction air? -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361361#361361 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:59 PM PST US From: Bill Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice Bet'cha $10k it wasn't installed On 12/20/2011 7:10 PM, Bob Turner wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Turner" > > Anyone see a control for alternate induction air? > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:30:19 PM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice Maybe it's just me but I'd kind of like to know how it flies. Not that I'd take mine off, but maybe he' onto something. Just sayin'. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Bill Watson wrote: > > Bet'cha $10k it wasn't installed > > > On 12/20/2011 7:10 PM, Bob Turner wrote: >> >> >> Anyone see a control for alternate induction air? >> >> -------- >> Bob Turner >> RV-10 QB >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:19 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice What's wrong Dave, you need some help with fiberglass? BTW I am now referring to that plane as the HD-10 (Home Depot). Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:20 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice --> Maybe it's just me but I'd kind of like to know how it flies. Not that I'd take mine off, but maybe he' onto something. Just sayin'. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Bill Watson wrote: > > Bet'cha $10k it wasn't installed > > > On 12/20/2011 7:10 PM, Bob Turner wrote: >> >> --> Turner" >> >> Anyone see a control for alternate induction air? >> >> -------- >> Bob Turner >> RV-10 QB >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:23 PM PST US From: Bill Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice A true empiricist! On 12/20/2011 8:19 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Dave Saylor > > Maybe it's just me but I'd kind of like to know how it flies. Not that > I'd take mine off, but maybe he' onto something. > > Just sayin'. > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:26 PM PST US From: Scott Schmidt Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice I like that Robin. -But the first Home Depot plane was at Oshkosh 2005. -=0AI don't know how many remember this one but it was a flying car made of wood.-=0AWe all called it the Home Depot Special the whole week. - =0AI really hope it was just a concept. -=0A-=0AScott Schmidt=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Robin Marks =0A>To: "rv10-list@matronics.com" =0A>S ent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:49 PM=0A>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Odd painttheweb.com>=0A>=0A>What's wrong Dave, you need some help with fibergla ss?=0A>BTW I am now referring to that plane as the HD-10 (Home Depot).=0A> =0A>Robin=0A>Do Not Archive=0A>=0A>-----Original Message-----=0A>From: owne r-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.c om] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor=0A>Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:20 PM=0A >To: rv10-list@matronics.com=0A>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Cho r.aircrafters@gmail.com>=0A>=0A>Maybe it's just me but I'd kind of like to know how it flies. Not that I'd take mine off, but maybe he' onto something .=0A>=0A>Just sayin'.=0A>=0A>Dave Saylor=0A>AirCrafters=0A>140 Aviation Way =0A>Watsonville, CA 95076=0A>831-722-9141 Shop=0A>831-750-0284 Cell=0A>=0A> =0A>=0A>On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Bill Watson =0A>>=0A>> Bet'cha $10k it wasn't installed=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> On 12/20/ 2011 7:10 PM, Bob Turner wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>> --> -RV10-List message posted by: "Bob =0A>>> --> Turner"=0A>>>=0A>>> Anyone see a control for alternate induction air?=0A>>>=0A>>> --------=0A>>> Bob Turn er=0A>>> RV-10 QB=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> ===============0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:43 PM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice Another view of the car. The guy was sort of unpleasant if you didn't "ooh" and "ahh" while looking at the thing (actually, it was hard not to chuckle.) It looked very heavy. Haven't seen it at any other Airventure since. Albert Gardner I like that Robin. But the first Home Depot plane was at Oshkosh 2005. I don't know how many remember this one but it was a flying car made of wood. We all called it the Home Depot Special the whole week. I really hope it was just a concept. Scott Schmidt ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:52:27 PM PST US From: John Gonzalez Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice That wingtip design might be very efficient if the plane always flew exactl y straight through the air without adverse yaw. Since yaw is a part of flight=2C these wing tips would be very in efficient and cause a lot of drag. Here is another odd design showing a flow seperator to minimize wing tip dr ag. RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice View photos Download all You are invited to view John's album. This album has 4 files. I like that Robin. But the first Home Depot plane was at Oshkosh 2005. I don't know how many remember this one but it was a flying car made of woo d. We all called it the Home Depot Special the whole week. I really hope it was just a concept. Scott Schmidt From: Robin Marks Sent: Tuesday=2C December 20=2C 2011 6:49 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice What's wrong Dave=2C you need some help with fiberglass? BTW I am now referring to that plane as the HD-10 (Home Depot). Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor Sent: Tuesday=2C December 20=2C 2011 5:20 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Odd Wingtip Choice --> Maybe it's just me but I'd kind of like to know how it flies. Not that I'd take mine off=2C but maybe he' onto something. Just sayin'. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville=2C CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Tue=2C Dec 20=2C 2011 at 4:54 PM=2C Bill Watson wrote: > > Bet'cha $10k it wasn't installed > > > On 12/20/2011 7:10 PM=2C Bob Turner wrote: >> >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob >> --> Turner" >> >> Anyone see a control for alternate induction air? >> >> -------- >> Bob Turner >> RV-10 QB >> >> > > www.hnbsp=3B "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Li st" target="_blank">http://wwwp=3B -Matt Dralle=2C Libuti on" ====== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.