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Thu 12/22/11


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 08:19 AM - Re: Sweet HD Aircraft Video Cam (Albert Gardner)
     2. 09:33 AM - Fw: RV-10 / P-51 Formation Flight (James McGrew)
     3. 11:18 AM - Re: Fw: RV-10 / P-51 Formation Flight (Tim Olson)
     4. 03:33 PM - Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? (Phillip Perry)
     5. 03:40 PM - Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? (Seano)
     6. 03:49 PM - Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? (Geoff Combs)
     7. 03:54 PM - Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? (David Leikam)
     8. 04:13 PM - Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? (Seano)
     9. 04:14 PM - Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? (Jeff Carpenter)
    10. 05:06 PM - Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? (Andrew Long)
    11. 05:30 PM - Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? (George Nolin)
    12. 05:47 PM - Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? (Phil Perry)
    13. 05:50 PM - Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? (Linn Walters)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:19:11 AM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Sweet HD Aircraft Video Cam
    I have the NFlightCam+ Contour camera but a field of view of 170 degrees isn't bad for looking at the terrain out in front but if you are trying to take pics of aircraft nearby they are way too small. I'm trying the 120 degree view option that NFlightCam has to see if it's better. Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:00 PM Subject: RV10-List: Sweet HD Aircraft Video Cam Some probably have already seen this, but I noticed that ACS has it on sale right now for $399 plus an extra 10% off with the check out code "PILOT12". I'd be interested to hear any impressions of the system and the actual 1080p video quality. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/dataavhd.php Best, - Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log Status: 26+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode


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    Time: 09:33:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Fwd: RV-10 / P-51 Formation Flight
    From: James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu>
    RV-10 Group, We all know the RV-10 is great. I just thought I would share something I did with my -10 that reinforces that a bit. I found myself in the right place at the right time to lead a formation of restored P-51's on a photo shoot flight over Colorado Springs (I know, bragging...). I was concerned that my plane (still without paint or wheel pants) could maintain sufficient speed to keep the Mustangs from falling from the sky. As it turns out it worked great. I had about 150 KIAS at 8,500' when I met the 2 ship 180 degrees out over our rejoin point. I slapped on a monster 2.5G break turn (which sadly almost put my camera man out) to get on their 6. I then maneuvered the formation into a 3 ship echelon for our photo shoot. I was able to keep about 130 KIAS in level flight, with everything I could get out of my plane (2500 RPM, rich). It was August and the engine was getting a bit hot, I played with the mixture to keep the oil and CHT in the green/yellow. The Mustang pilot said this was OK, but a bit mushy for him. It was interesting that the turbulence coming off the mountains was knocking the RV-10 around as the -51's were cruising nice and smooth. Another thing is how big that 11' foot diameter prop looks when it is swinging that close to my little plane (I'm used to close formation with pointy nosed airplanes). The attached photos say it all.The RV-10 provided great visibility for both me and my friend with the camera in the back. What a great experience. (I also attached a photo of my plane over Maine.) You can see my tail/wingtip in a couple photos. There was a camera in #3, but I still have gotten that picture of N312JE next to "Little Horse". Happy Holidays. Happy Flying! -Jim N312JE


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    Time: 11:18:40 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: RV-10 / P-51 Formation Flight
    Hey Jim, those are awesome photos and it's an awesome experience! You can almost feel and see the high AOA of the 2 mustangs in that side view...it's like a boat trying to get on plane. Pretty cool! Wait until you get the wheel pants on...you'd make them even happier. Tim On 12/22/2011 11:30 AM, James McGrew wrote: > RV-10 Group, > > We all know the RV-10 is great. I just thought I would share something > I did with my -10 that reinforces that a bit. I found myself in the > right place at the right time to lead a formation of restored P-51's > on a photo shoot flight over Colorado Springs (I know, bragging...). I > was concerned that my plane (still without paint or wheel pants) could > maintain sufficient speed to keep the Mustangs from falling from the > sky. As it turns out it worked great. > > I had about 150 KIAS at 8,500' when I met the 2 ship 180 degrees out > over our rejoin point. I slapped on a monster 2.5G break turn (which > sadly almost put my camera man out) to get on their 6. I then > maneuvered the formation into a 3 ship echelon for our photo shoot. I > was able to keep about 130 KIAS in level flight, with everything I > could get out of my plane (2500 RPM, rich). It was August and the > engine was getting a bit hot, I played with the mixture to keep the > oil and CHT in the green/yellow. The Mustang pilot said this was OK, > but a bit mushy for him. It was interesting that the turbulence coming > off the mountains was knocking the RV-10 around as the -51's were > cruising nice and smooth. Another thing is how big that 11' foot > diameter prop looks when it is swinging that close to my little plane > (I'm used to close formation with pointy nosed airplanes). > > The attached photos say it all.The RV-10 provided great visibility for > both me and my friend with the camera in the back. What a great > experience. (I also attached a photo of my plane over Maine.) You can > see my tail/wingtip in a couple photos. There was a camera in #3, but > I still have gotten that picture of N312JE next to "Little Horse". > > Happy Holidays. Happy Flying! > > -Jim > N312JE


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    Time: 03:33:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mounts). Photo of the mount is here: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and putting the nuts on top. Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If so - how? BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical. Phil


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    Time: 03:40:06 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
    Can you borrow a neighbor kid to hold a wrench? Use masking tape on the closed end of the 3/8 wrench? I think I just used my girly hands... I----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Perry To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:30 PM Subject: RV10-List: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mounts). Photo of the mount is here: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and putting the nuts on top. Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If so - how? BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical. Phil


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    Time: 03:49:17 PM PST US
    From: "Geoff Combs" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
    Subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
    You know what they say little hands little .............. Geoff Combs _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:37 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? Can you borrow a neighbor kid to hold a wrench? Use masking tape on the closed end of the 3/8 wrench? I think I just used my girly hands... I----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip <mailto:philperry9@gmail.com> Perry Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:30 PM Subject: RV10-List: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mounts). Photo of the mount is here: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and putting the nuts on top. Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If so - how? BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical. Phil href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 03:54:56 PM PST US
    From: David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
    Use a dab of fuel lube or any other sticky substance on your finger tip to hold the nut so you can hold it on the end of the bolt threads while you get the nut started. I remember those to be very tricky, but it can be done. David Leikam RV10 Flying On Dec 22, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: > No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mounts). > > Photo of the mount is here: > http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg > > I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and putting the nuts on top. > > Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If so - how? > > BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical. > > Phil > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:13:11 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
    latex gloves? ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Combs To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:46 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? You know what they say little hands little .............. Geoff Combs ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:37 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? Can you borrow a neighbor kid to hold a wrench? Use masking tape on the closed end of the 3/8 wrench? I think I just used my girly hands... I----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Perry To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:30 PM Subject: RV10-List: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mounts). Photo of the mount is here: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and putting the nuts on top. Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If so - how? BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical. Phil href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 04:14:44 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
    Subject: Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
    remove the side cover panel and it becomes pretty easy to access three of the 4... the other has to be approached from the center inward and doesn't have the same issues. Jeff Carpenter 40304 On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: > No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to > install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of > the gear mounts). > > Photo of the mount is here: > http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg > > I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts > and putting the nuts on top. > > Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts > installed? If so - how? > > BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, > washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and > I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss > anything critical. > > Phil > >


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    Time: 05:06:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
    From: "Andrew Long" <along@aanet.com.au>
    Also if I may, I can't find the bolt size in the manual. I gather that they are AN3-4A's does this sound correct? Regards, Andrew Long www.ozrv10.com > remove the side cover panel and it becomes pretty easy to access three > of the 4... the other has to be approached from the center inward and > doesn't have the same issues. > > Jeff Carpenter > 40304 > > > On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: > >> No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to >> install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of >> the gear mounts). >> >> Photo of the mount is here: >> http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg >> >> I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts >> and putting the nuts on top. >> >> Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts >> installed? If so - how? >> >> BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, >> washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and >> I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss >> anything critical. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:30:40 PM PST US
    From: George Nolin <gnolin@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
    Use masking tape to tape the nut and washer to your first or middle finger. - Cut a hole in the tape so the bolt can penetrate and get started.- An other way is to tape the not in a cloase end wrench. G. Hank Nolin, P.E. 832-640-6284 www.salestaxexemptions.com - "Science, freedom, beauty, adventure--aviation offers it all." Charles A. Lindbergh --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote: From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> Subject: RV10-List: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mount s). Photo of the mount is here: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and pu tting the nuts on top. Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If s o - how? BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step.- If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical. Phil


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    Time: 05:47:43 PM PST US
    From: Phil Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
    4A's is what I came up with too. I have no idea why the plans tell you to leave them off. If I had it to do a gain, I wouldn't do that. My hands are simply too big to get in there. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:03 PM, "Andrew Long" <along@aanet.com.au> wrote: > Also if I may, I can't find the bolt size in the manual. I gather that the y are AN3-4A's does this sound correct? > > Regards, > Andrew Long > www.ozrv10.com > > > remove the side cover panel and it becomes pretty easy to access three > > of the 4... the other has to be approached from the center inward and > > doesn't have the same issues. > > > > Jeff Carpenter > > 40304 > > > > > > On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: > > > >> No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to > >> install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of > >> the gear mounts). > >> > >> Photo of the mount is here: > >> http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg > >> > >> I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts > >> and putting the nuts on top. > >> > >> Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts > >> installed? If so - how? > >> > >> BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, > >> washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and > >> I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss > >> anything critical. > >> > >> Phil > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 05:50:56 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
    Far easier and quicker to lay a short piece of masking tape sticky side up on a box-end wrench and push the nut onto the tape and down into the wrench. It'll also work on the open-end if you can't get leverage to pop the wrench off the tightened nut. Linn On 12/22/2011 8:27 PM, George Nolin wrote: > Use masking tape to tape the nut and washer to your first or middle > finger. Cut a hole in the tape so the bolt can penetrate and get > started. Another way is to tape the not in a cloase end wrench. > > G. Hank Nolin, P.E. > 832-640-6284 > www.salestaxexemptions.com > "Science, freedom, beauty, adventure--aviation offers it all." > Charles A. Lindbergh > > > --- On *Thu, 12/22/11, Phillip Perry /<philperry9@gmail.com>/* wrote: > > > From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> > Subject: RV10-List: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 5:30 PM > > No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to > install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top > of the gear mounts). > > Photo of the mount is here: > http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg > > I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the > bolts and putting the nuts on top. > > Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts > installed? If so - how? > > BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, > nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called > out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I > didn't miss anything critical. > > Phil > > > * > > ollow target=_blank>www.aeroelectric.com > /" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com > ofollow target=_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > * > > > *




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