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1. 07:26 AM - Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool (rleffler)
2. 08:20 AM - Re: Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool (John Cox)
3. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool (Robin Marks)
4. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool (John Cox)
5. 09:33 AM - Re: Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool (John Cox)
6. 11:41 AM - a new toy (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
7. 12:46 PM - Re: a new toy (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 01:23 PM - Re: a new toy (DLM)
9. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool (Kelly McMullen)
10. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool (Bob Leffler)
11. 09:31 PM - Re: Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool (John Cox)
12. 10:35 PM - Dynon Skyview vs. GRT HX EFIS... (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool |
In searching the forums this morning, I came across this gem from five years ago.
Since John has been quiet recently, does that mean there is progress being made
on the RV-10? Perhaps Deem's pool should be changed to which decade John will
be finished? :P
Of course I don't have much room to talk as I start year six of my build. I hope
to be flying by OSH, but I'm not making any bets yet.
bob
Deems Davis wrote:
> John, This must be modification/enhancement # 387, I'm going to start a
> pool based on your 10's 1st flight/completion date: The earliest
> selection possible is Jan 20, 2020 (That's my pick). Anybody interested
> just send me $10 and the date you pick, I'll put the money in an escrow
> account. The person closest to the actual date without going over/beyond
> takes it all (Oh yeah and John and his family members are excluded from
> entering !) I'll post the estimates/selections on my web site. :-D
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - (A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - FWF
RV-10 #40684
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool |
Happy New Year to everyone else as well!
Alive and well with kit #40600 still ahead of Deem's prognostication. Four
death of all parents, one loss of the wife's only sister and two bouts of
skin cancer have NOT diminished my enthusiasm.
Still travel the U.S. performing EAA tech advisor role on my beloved RV 10
with builders. Still outspoken as ever... even about those obnoxious
rudder pedals (see grimstad) and that damned gonad vent design.
Served two years as a Van's Mentor for TEEN FLIGHT I. See Sport Aviation
"Band of Builders" article. Now a Lead Mentor with Van's TEEN FLIGHT II
before the program roles out worldwide in February with New Zealand. Yes,
I am on a second RV-12 and it does not allow any of my 285 mods
(improvements) like on the RV10.
Still performing Avionics and "Aircraft on the Ground- AOG" Rescue work for
Alaska Air Group. Again headed to OSH '12. Otherwise... not much going
on... no grandkids yet.
Any great hangar stories?
JOHN
On Dec 27, 2011 7:30 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
> In searching the forums this morning, I came across this gem from five
> years ago.
>
> Since John has been quiet recently, does that mean there is progress being
> made on the RV-10? Perhaps Deem's pool should be changed to which decade
> John will be finished? :P
>
> Of course I don't have much room to talk as I start year six of my build.
> I hope to be flying by OSH, but I'm not making any bets yet.
>
> bob
>
>
> Deems Davis wrote:
> > John, This must be modification/enhancement # 387, I'm going to start a
> > pool based on your 10's 1st flight/completion date: The earliest
> > selection possible is Jan 20, 2020 (That's my pick). Anybody interested
> > just send me $10 and the date you pick, I'll put the money in an escrow
> > account. The person closest to the actual date without going over/beyond
> > takes it all (Oh yeah and John and his family members are excluded from
> > entering !) I'll post the estimates/selections on my web site. :-D
> > Deems Davis # 406
> > Finishing - (A Misnomer ! )
> > http://deemsrv10.com/
> >
>
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - FWF
> RV-10 #40684
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361737#361737
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool |
I don't care how long Johns -10's is going to take I know it's going to be an excellent
example of what a flying 10 can be. Excellent choices, excellent equipment
and an excellent build will make his plane another proud member of our fleet.
And I am pretty sure he plans on putting the wing tips on his plane. :-).
Robin
Sent from my iPad2.
On Dec 27, 2011, at 7:33 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
> In searching the forums this morning, I came across this gem from five years
ago.
>
> Since John has been quiet recently, does that mean there is progress being made
on the RV-10? Perhaps Deem's pool should be changed to which decade John will
be finished? :P
>
> Of course I don't have much room to talk as I start year six of my build. I
hope to be flying by OSH, but I'm not making any bets yet.
>
> bob
>
>
> Deems Davis wrote:
>> John, This must be modification/enhancement # 387, I'm going to start a
>> pool based on your 10's 1st flight/completion date: The earliest
>> selection possible is Jan 20, 2020 (That's my pick). Anybody interested
>> just send me $10 and the date you pick, I'll put the money in an escrow
>> account. The person closest to the actual date without going over/beyond
>> takes it all (Oh yeah and John and his family members are excluded from
>> entering !) I'll post the estimates/selections on my web site. :-D
>> Deems Davis # 406
>> Finishing - (A Misnomer ! )
>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - FWF
> RV-10 #40684
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361737#361737
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool |
Oh yeh, did not mention third year as an EAA Life Member. Trying to get
any or all of the Van Grunsven boys Dick / Jerry / Stan to join me ;-)
On Dec 27, 2011 8:16 AM, "John Cox" <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote:
> Happy New Year to everyone else as well!
>
> Alive and well with kit #40600 still ahead of Deem's prognostication.
> Four death of all parents, one loss of the wife's only sister and two bouts
> of skin cancer have NOT diminished my enthusiasm.
>
> Still travel the U.S. performing EAA tech advisor role on my beloved RV 10
> with builders. Still outspoken as ever... even about those obnoxious
> rudder pedals (see grimstad) and that damned gonad vent design.
>
> Served two years as a Van's Mentor for TEEN FLIGHT I. See Sport Aviation
> "Band of Builders" article. Now a Lead Mentor with Van's TEEN FLIGHT II
> before the program roles out worldwide in February with New Zealand. Yes,
> I am on a second RV-12 and it does not allow any of my 285 mods
> (improvements) like on the RV10.
>
> Still performing Avionics and "Aircraft on the Ground- AOG" Rescue work
> for Alaska Air Group. Again headed to OSH '12. Otherwise... not much
> going on... no grandkids yet.
>
> Any great hangar stories?
>
> JOHN
> On Dec 27, 2011 7:30 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> In searching the forums this morning, I came across this gem from five
>> years ago.
>>
>> Since John has been quiet recently, does that mean there is progress
>> being made on the RV-10? Perhaps Deem's pool should be changed to which
>> decade John will be finished? :P
>>
>> Of course I don't have much room to talk as I start year six of my build.
>> I hope to be flying by OSH, but I'm not making any bets yet.
>>
>> bob
>>
>>
>> Deems Davis wrote:
>> > John, This must be modification/enhancement # 387, I'm going to start a
>> > pool based on your 10's 1st flight/completion date: The earliest
>> > selection possible is Jan 20, 2020 (That's my pick). Anybody interested
>> > just send me $10 and the date you pick, I'll put the money in an escrow
>> > account. The person closest to the actual date without going over/beyond
>> > takes it all (Oh yeah and John and his family members are excluded from
>> > entering !) I'll post the estimates/selections on my web site. :-D
>> > Deems Davis # 406
>> > Finishing - (A Misnomer ! )
>> > http://deemsrv10.com/
>> >
>>
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Leffler
>> N410BL - FWF
>> RV-10 #40684
>> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361737#361737
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool |
Absolutely but they might be carbon fiber with the latest LEDs and slightly
uplift winglets for fueltank venting. It's hard to make a Hershey bar into
Godiva.
An Extra is the only flush wingtip I could reluctantly accept. Think
Szbach. Every mod robs any builder of flying their own gem.... must mooch
from flying friends to keep my hear pumping. I miss John Hilger!
John
On Dec 27, 2011 8:29 AM, "Robin Marks" <robin@painttheweb.com> wrote:
>
> I don't care how long Johns -10's is going to take I know it's going to be
> an excellent example of what a flying 10 can be. Excellent choices,
> excellent equipment and an excellent build will make his plane another
> proud member of our fleet. And I am pretty sure he plans on putting the
> wing tips on his plane. :-).
>
> Robin
>
> Sent from my iPad2.
>
> On Dec 27, 2011, at 7:33 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > In searching the forums this morning, I came across this gem from five
> years ago.
> >
> > Since John has been quiet recently, does that mean there is progress
> being made on the RV-10? Perhaps Deem's pool should be changed to which
> decade John will be finished? :P
> >
> > Of course I don't have much room to talk as I start year six of my
> build. I hope to be flying by OSH, but I'm not making any bets yet.
> >
> > bob
> >
> >
> > Deems Davis wrote:
> >> John, This must be modification/enhancement # 387, I'm going to start a
> >> pool based on your 10's 1st flight/completion date: The earliest
> >> selection possible is Jan 20, 2020 (That's my pick). Anybody interested
> >> just send me $10 and the date you pick, I'll put the money in an escrow
> >> account. The person closest to the actual date without going over/beyond
> >> takes it all (Oh yeah and John and his family members are excluded from
> >> entering !) I'll post the estimates/selections on my web site. :-D
> >> Deems Davis # 406
> >> Finishing - (A Misnomer ! )
> >> http://deemsrv10.com/
> >>
> >
> >
> > --------
> > Bob Leffler
> > N410BL - FWF
> > RV-10 #40684
> > http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361737#361737
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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An interesting new toy:
http://www.pilotmall.com/product/DeLorme-AG-008373-201-inReach-Two-Way-Sate
llite-Communicator-for-Android-OS/tracking-devices?r 11-12-28
Tim
N52KS
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Very neat competitor to the Spot but it's strange that they don't have an i
OS app. It also appears that a lot of people are having problems pairing i
t with their Android devices.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: a new toy
An interesting new toy:
http://www.pilotmall.com/product/DeLorme-AG-008373-201-inReach-Two-Way-Sate
llite-Communicator-for-Android-OS/tracking-devices?r 11-12-28
Tim
N52KS
rsbooks.com>
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more expensive than Spot or PLB or APRS. unable to determine its
dependencies since no tech specs were available on the link provided; it
will certainly have some. Generally when I am going somewhere in the
aircraft I let my people know where I am going and when I plan to arrive.
APRS in the aircraft, IFR plan, and PLB.
One advantage I did learn of Spot is a SAR provision (extra fee) if
traveling in a country that has none. That is, don't go down in any place
other than the USA or Canada;
in Saudi Arabia we were always told to burn the car as the black smoke would
be easily spotted in the clear desert skies; knowing full well that the only
people searching for us would be ARAMCO aircraft.
_____
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: a new toy
Very neat competitor to the Spot but it's strange that they don't have an
iOS app. It also appears that a lot of people are having problems pairing
it with their Android devices.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: a new toy
An interesting new toy:
http://www.pilotmall.com/product/DeLorme-AG-008373-201-inReach-Two-Way-Satel
lite-Communicator-for-Android-OS/tracking-devices?r 11-12-28
Tim
N52KS
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| Subject: | Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool |
Well, John, after all this time, you are going to have to revisit every
one of those 285 mods to see if they are still relevant and parts
available. Engine/avionics/exhaust markets are a fast moving scene, and
what was hot at OSH is yesterday's news now. Door/handle/latch system is
whole nother discussion.
Off to another mod detour..................
On 12/27/2011 9:21 AM, John Cox wrote:
>
> Oh yeh, did not mention third year as an EAA Life Member. Trying to
> get any or all of the Van Grunsven boys Dick / Jerry / Stan to join me ;-)
>
> On Dec 27, 2011 8:16 AM, "John Cox" <rv10pro@gmail.com
> <mailto:rv10pro@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Happy New Year to everyone else as well!
>
> Alive and well with kit #40600 still ahead of Deem's
> prognostication. Four death of all parents, one loss of the
> wife's only sister and two bouts of skin cancer have NOT
> diminished my enthusiasm.
>
> Still travel the U.S. performing EAA tech advisor role on my
> beloved RV 10 with builders. Still outspoken as ever... even
> about those obnoxious rudder pedals (see grimstad) and that damned
> gonad vent design.
>
> Served two years as a Van's Mentor for TEEN FLIGHT I. See Sport
> Aviation "Band of Builders" article. Now a Lead Mentor with Van's
> TEEN FLIGHT II before the program roles out worldwide in February
> with New Zealand. Yes, I am on a second RV-12 and it does not
> allow any of my 285 mods (improvements) like on the RV10.
>
> Still performing Avionics and "Aircraft on the Ground- AOG" Rescue
> work for Alaska Air Group. Again headed to OSH '12. Otherwise...
> not much going on... no grandkids yet.
>
> Any great hangar stories?
>
> JOHN
>
> On Dec 27, 2011 7:30 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com
> <mailto:rv@thelefflers.com>> wrote:
>
> <rv@thelefflers.com <mailto:rv@thelefflers.com>>
>
> In searching the forums this morning, I came across this gem
> from five years ago.
>
> Since John has been quiet recently, does that mean there is
> progress being made on the RV-10? Perhaps Deem's pool should
> be changed to which decade John will be finished? :P
>
> Of course I don't have much room to talk as I start year six
> of my build. I hope to be flying by OSH, but I'm not making
> any bets yet.
>
> bob
>
>
> Deems Davis wrote:
> > John, This must be modification/enhancement # 387, I'm going
> to start a
> > pool based on your 10's 1st flight/completion date: The earliest
> > selection possible is Jan 20, 2020 (That's my pick). Anybody
> interested
> > just send me $10 and the date you pick, I'll put the money
> in an escrow
> > account. The person closest to the actual date without going
> over/beyond
> > takes it all (Oh yeah and John and his family members are
> excluded from
> > entering !) I'll post the estimates/selections on my web
> site. :-D
> > Deems Davis # 406
> > Finishing - (A Misnomer ! )
> > http://deemsrv10.com/
> >
>
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - FWF
> RV-10 #40684
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361737#361737
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| Subject: | Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool |
Glad to hear you're keeping busy. It would be interesting to hear you
explain those mods to the Van's clan.
bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool
Oh yeh, did not mention third year as an EAA Life Member. Trying to get any
or all of the Van Grunsven boys Dick / Jerry / Stan to join me ;-)
On Dec 27, 2011 8:16 AM, "John Cox" <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote:
Happy New Year to everyone else as well!
Alive and well with kit #40600 still ahead of Deem's prognostication. Four
death of all parents, one loss of the wife's only sister and two bouts of
skin cancer have NOT diminished my enthusiasm.
Still travel the U.S. performing EAA tech advisor role on my beloved RV 10
with builders. Still outspoken as ever... even about those obnoxious rudder
pedals (see grimstad) and that damned gonad vent design.
Served two years as a Van's Mentor for TEEN FLIGHT I. See Sport Aviation
"Band of Builders" article. Now a Lead Mentor with Van's TEEN FLIGHT II
before the program roles out worldwide in February with New Zealand. Yes, I
am on a second RV-12 and it does not allow any of my 285 mods (improvements)
like on the RV10.
Still performing Avionics and "Aircraft on the Ground- AOG" Rescue work for
Alaska Air Group. Again headed to OSH '12. Otherwise... not much going
on... no grandkids yet.
Any great hangar stories?
JOHN
On Dec 27, 2011 7:30 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
In searching the forums this morning, I came across this gem from five years
ago.
Since John has been quiet recently, does that mean there is progress being
made on the RV-10? Perhaps Deem's pool should be changed to which decade
John will be finished? :P
Of course I don't have much room to talk as I start year six of my build. I
hope to be flying by OSH, but I'm not making any bets yet.
bob
Deems Davis wrote:
> John, This must be modification/enhancement # 387, I'm going to start a
> pool based on your 10's 1st flight/completion date: The earliest
> selection possible is Jan 20, 2020 (That's my pick). Anybody interested
> just send me $10 and the date you pick, I'll put the money in an escrow
> account. The person closest to the actual date without going over/beyond
> takes it all (Oh yeah and John and his family members are excluded from
> entering !) I'll post the estimates/selections on my web site. :-D
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - (A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - FWF
RV-10 #40684
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
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| Subject: | Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date Pool |
Getting traction on the subject of Mods is "Mission Impossible", much like
acknowledgement that some parts and sub-assemblies could use that all
American phrase new and improved.
The RV 10 gang Watching me grow into an ole grey haired codger right before
your eyes.
put on my tombstone "Just Build it!" Should any of my IMF RV 10 force be
killed or captured.... this post will self destruct before our Saturday
Teen Flight build session.
On Dec 27, 2011 2:10 PM, "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
> Glad to hear you=92re keeping busy. It would be interesting to hear you
> explain those mods to the Van=92s clan.****
>
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Cox
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:21 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: John Cox's Mod/Enhancement/Completion Date
> Pool****
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> Oh yeh, did not mention third year as an EAA Life Member. Trying to get
> any or all of the Van Grunsven boys Dick / Jerry / Stan to join me ;-)***
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> On Dec 27, 2011 8:16 AM, "John Cox" <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote:****
>
> Happy New Year to everyone else as well!****
>
> Alive and well with kit #40600 still ahead of Deem's prognostication.
> Four death of all parents, one loss of the wife's only sister and two bou
ts
> of skin cancer have NOT diminished my enthusiasm. ****
>
> Still travel the U.S. performing EAA tech advisor role on my beloved RV 1
0
> with builders. Still outspoken as ever... even about those obnoxious
> rudder pedals (see grimstad) and that damned gonad vent design.****
>
> Served two years as a Van's Mentor for TEEN FLIGHT I. See Sport Aviation
> "Band of Builders" article. Now a Lead Mentor with Van's TEEN FLIGHT II
> before the program roles out worldwide in February with New Zealand. Yes
,
> I am on a second RV-12 and it does not allow any of my 285 mods
> (improvements) like on the RV10.****
>
> Still performing Avionics and "Aircraft on the Ground- AOG" Rescue work
> for Alaska Air Group. Again headed to OSH '12. Otherwise... not much
> going on... no grandkids yet.****
>
> Any great hangar stories?****
>
> JOHN****
>
> On Dec 27, 2011 7:30 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:****
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>
> In searching the forums this morning, I came across this gem from five
> years ago.
>
> Since John has been quiet recently, does that mean there is progress bein
g
> made on the RV-10? Perhaps Deem's pool should be changed to which decade
> John will be finished? :P
>
> Of course I don't have much room to talk as I start year six of my build.
> I hope to be flying by OSH, but I'm not making any bets yet.
>
> bob
>
>
> Deems Davis wrote:
> > John, This must be modification/enhancement # 387, I'm going to start a
> > pool based on your 10's 1st flight/completion date: The earliest
> > selection possible is Jan 20, 2020 (That's my pick). Anybody interested
> > just send me $10 and the date you pick, I'll put the money in an escrow
> > account. The person closest to the actual date without going over/beyon
d
> > takes it all (Oh yeah and John and his family members are excluded from
> > entering !) I'll post the estimates/selections on my web site. :-D
> > Deems Davis # 406
> > Finishing - (A Misnomer ! )
> > http://deemsrv10.com/
> >
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> RV-10 #40684
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| Subject: | Dynon Skyview vs. GRT HX EFIS... |
>At 09:47 PM 12/27/2011 Tuesday, you wrote:
>I have looked at the Dynon stuff up at Arlington Air Show the past two years
>and really like the looks of them. They added autopilot and said last year
>that they were about to announce communications added to their system. A
>single 10" screen to do everything would be pretty easy to install learn to
>operate. Mostly Dynon looks best in the magazines. I guess you get used to
>any of them or they would not all still be in business.
>Pete
I have a Dynon 10" Skyview in the RV-6:
http://www.mattsrv6.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV6&project 43&category=0&log=138164&row=45
http://www.mattsrv6.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV6&project 43&category=0&log=138163&row=46
and a triple GRT HX setup in the RV-8:
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log'376&row=134
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log'375&row=135
I've flown the GRT HX setup about 170 hours and the Dynon Skyview system about
45 hours now.
Which do I prefer? That's a tough call. There are parts about each system that
I like a lot...
The installation and configuration of the Dynon is easier. Instructions are also
better. The network cable interconnect system that Dynon uses (I think it
is just RS485, but it works well) is also a no-brainer to install. Their display
(PFD/Engine/Map) are definitely very pretty and demo well.
The GRT is a little harder to get installed, the manual is a little sketchy in
places and there are a LOT of configuration options that can seem daunting at
first. BUT, there is power and utility in those options. If you use them to
your advantage, you can probably do more, better on the GRT compared to the Dynon.
The displays on the GRT don't have the "3D-y", "Windows-y" look to them.
BUT, I think I'm preferring that at this point. Doing a scan on the GRT looking
for something out of the ordinary is quicker and more accurate. I also like
the PFD layout and operation on the GRT better. It feels more "accurate"
and "believable" to me for some reason. I never quite "trust" what I'm seeing
on the Dynon for some reason and I don't know why. Maybe I just need more time
on the Dynon.
So, the Dynon has it for Installation and Configuation, but the GRT has it for
Operation and Presentation as far as I'm concerned. If I was building a new plane,
I think that I would probably go with the GRT. But its a close race. I
really like the Dynon system too.
I guess I'm saying if you're in the market for a full-featured EFIS system, give
GRT and Dynon both very close look before you make your selection. In my opinion,
it comes down to personal preferences in a few select areas on which way
to go. Both systems are top notch.
BTW, Dynon's autopilot add-on for the Skyview which I have in the RV-6 works well.
Its a good autopilot that does the job. The servos are the same as with
the TruTrak system. In the RV-8, I have the TruTrak Digiflight II VSGV system.
The TruTrak is a smoother, more accurate autopilot in my opinion, and I would
go that route again. But, it also costs quite a bit more than just adding
servos to the Dynon or GRT.
$.02
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 42+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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