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1. 08:26 AM - LAX (Jesse Saint)
2. 08:53 AM - Aileron trailing edge (Rick Lark)
3. 09:09 AM - Re: Aileron trailing edge (Dave Saylor)
4. 09:16 AM - Re: Aileron trailing edge (Ralph E. Capen)
5. 09:35 AM - Re: Aileron trailing edge (Thane States)
6. 09:40 AM - Re: Aileron trailing edge (Jesse Saint)
7. 09:53 AM - Re: Aileron trailing edge (mds4878)
8. 01:16 PM - Keep building... (Robin Marks)
9. 02:48 PM - RV 10 Empennage Kit for Sale (Joseph Rhodes)
10. 03:09 PM - Re: Keep building... (Ben Westfall)
11. 03:16 PM - Re: RV 10 Empennage Kit for Sale (Stefan Kothe)
12. 05:05 PM - Re: Keep building... (Robin Marks)
13. 06:37 PM - Re: Aileron trailing edge (Chris)
14. 07:23 PM - Re: Aileron trailing edge (Rick)
15. 07:33 PM - Re: Aileron trailing edge (Jae Chang)
16. 07:33 PM - Re: Aileron trailing edge (Rick Lark)
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I'm flying into LAX this afternoon and leave tomorrow afternoon. Anybody in the
area have any suggestions for a place to stay and/or words of wisdom for the
city? Any projects near there?
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Aileron trailing edge |
Hi all
-
I'm presently working on the trailing edge of my ailerons (please see jpg)
and have noticed the VA-140 wedge extrusion is sticking out of the aileron
skins by almost 1/16".- I obviously have not misplaced the extrusion as a
ll holes are already punched.- This is not the case with the rudder, elev
ators etc, as their skins are flush with the extrusion.- Joe at Vans was
not concerned, but still I can't help but think the skins are a little shor
t.-
-
Has anyone else run into this?
-
Regards,-
-
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron trailing edge |
My QB ailerons look exactly the same. Still flies great!
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Rick Lark <larkrv10@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm presently working on the trailing edge of my ailerons (please see jpg)
> and have noticed the VA-140 wedge extrusion is sticking out of the aileron
> skins by almost 1/16". I obviously have not misplaced the extrusion as all
> holes are already punched. This is not the case with the rudder, elevators
> etc, as their skins are flush with the extrusion. Joe at Vans was not
> concerned, but still I can't help but think the skins are a little short.
>
> Has anyone else run into this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick
> #40956
> Southampton, Ont
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron trailing edge |
I would start by measuring the edge-distance between the rivet holes and the edge.
If they're good, on to the wedge - compare the edge distances on the wedge
to the plans spec to make sure it's correct too.
My .02.......
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Lark <larkrv10@yahoo.ca>
>Sent: Jan 4, 2012 11:48 AM
>To: RV10-list <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV10-List: Aileron trailing edge
>
>Hi all
>
>I'm presently working on the trailing edge of my ailerons (please see jpg) and
have noticed the VA-140 wedge extrusion is sticking out of the aileron skins
by almost 1/16". I obviously have not misplaced the extrusion as all holes are
already punched. This is not the case with the rudder, elevators etc, as their
skins are flush with the extrusion. Joe at Vans was not concerned, but still
I can't help but think the skins are a little short.
>
>Has anyone else run into this?
>
>Regards,
>
>Rick
>#40956
>Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron trailing edge |
Mine had areas that were a little proud of T.E. Once riveted, just
gently file down that sharp edge if you want. That way paint will
adhere better, and when the little ones run there noggin into it, maybe
it wont cut so bad. My boy went running around the airplane and just
missed the aileron and hit the wing tip, knocked him off his feet but no
lasting wounds.
Thane
205. Hrs.
N321BY
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Lark
To: RV10-list
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:48 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Aileron trailing edge
Hi all
I'm presently working on the trailing edge of my ailerons
(please see jpg) and have noticed the VA-140 wedge extrusion is sticking
out of the aileron skins by almost 1/16". I obviously have not
misplaced the extrusion as all holes are already punched. This is not
the case with the rudder, elevators etc, as their skins are flush with
the extrusion. Joe at Vans was not concerned, but still I can't help
but think the skins are a little short.
Has anyone else run into this?
Regards,
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron trailing edge |
Just file the trailing edge down after you rivet it. That's not uncommon.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Rick Lark <larkrv10@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm presently working on the trailing edge of my ailerons (please see jpg)
and have noticed the VA-140 wedge extrusion is sticking out of the aileron s
kins by almost 1/16". I obviously have not misplaced the extrusion as all h
oles are already punched. This is not the case with the rudder, elevators e
tc, as their skins are flush with the extrusion. Joe at Vans was not concer
ned, but still I can't help but think the skins are a little short.
>
> Has anyone else run into this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick
> #40956
> Southampton, Ont
> <DSCF2814.JPG>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron trailing edge |
Hi,
I just finished mine and they look just like yours.
--------
RV-10 #40447
Fuselage almost done.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362403#362403
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| Subject: | Keep building... |
Happy New Year -10 List. Here are a few motivational photos in case you som
etimes wonder what all the hard work leads to:
Santa Barbara coast as sun sets
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Recent Flight Photos\Evening flight
to SBP 1-3-12.jpg]
Pismo Beach (Vanderburg AFB to the left)
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Recent Flight Photos\Pismo Beach Ret
urnign home.jpg]
Cross country flight Atlanta to California over Arizona.
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Recent Flight Photos\Returning from
AR over AZ.jpg]
Blurry pointless photo. Exactly how my panel looks without my glasses. :-)
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Recent Flight Photos\SAM_0560.JPG]
Robin
Just cracking 300 hours.
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| Subject: | RV 10 Empennage Kit for Sale |
RV 10 Empennage Kit for Sale
Spring Hill Fl 34610
Building a RV12
$2750
See www.joesrv10.com
Call 727-8569812
Thanks
Joe Rhodes
.
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| Subject: | Keep building... |
Robin what is that thing in the lower right corner with the words "FLIGHT
GUIDE" stamped on it J.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:09 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Keep building...
Happy New Year -10 List. Here are a few motivational photos in case you
sometimes wonder what all the hard work leads to:
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| Subject: | RV 10 Empennage Kit for Sale |
Did you start working on the kit, any photos, and how old?
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Rhodes
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:42 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV 10 Empennage Kit for Sale
RV 10 Empennage Kit for Sale
Spring Hill Fl 34610
Building a RV12
$2750
See www.joesrv10.com
Call 727-8569812
Thanks
Joe Rhodes
.
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| Subject: | Keep building... |
During the condition inspection this year we installed Geoff's interior (wh
ich looks great) and ripped out a bunch of electronics I thought were a goo
d idea to entertain the troops during long cross country flights. By first
flight all that entertainment electronics were replaced with iPads. I proba
bly removed 12 pounds worth of now useless A/V displays & support electroni
cs. The single DIN in the panel was a pop up AM/FM/SAT/DVD (below). Once ju
nked I had to fill the hole with something so I located a simple single DIN
plug that acts like an open glove box perfect for filling with my now usel
ess paper Flight Guide which has also been replaced by the iPad. Not sure w
hat I will ultimately put in the glove box but for now it fills the vacant
space. Maybe a couple of O2 cannulas?
Old panel:
[Description: http://www.painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-10/Images/Panel/198
%5b2%5d.jpg]
New panel:
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\RV 10 Build Photos\Glairshield\Glare
shield cover 004.jpg]
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Keep building...
Robin what is that thing in the lower right corner with the words "FLIGHT G
UIDE" stamped on it :).
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma
tronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]<mailto:[mailto:o
wner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]> On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:09 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Keep building...
Happy New Year -10 List. Here are a few motivational photos in case you som
etimes wonder what all the hard work leads to:
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| Subject: | Aileron trailing edge |
Way back when I think this question came up and word I got was one engineer
designed the tail feathers and another designed the ailerons. Each had a
different idea of how much the wedge should stick out. One thought a smidge
the other thought none. It's all fine.
-Chris Lucas
#40072
Flying
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:49 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Aileron trailing edge
Hi all
I'm presently working on the trailing edge of my ailerons (please see jpg)
and have noticed the VA-140 wedge extrusion is sticking out of the aileron
skins by almost 1/16". I obviously have not misplaced the extrusion as all
holes are already punched. This is not the case with the rudder, elevators
etc, as their skins are flush with the extrusion. Joe at Vans was not
concerned, but still I can't help but think the skins are a little short.
Has anyone else run into this?
Regards,
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron trailing edge |
I filed mine down flush with the skins and did it again on the second. The s
harper the trailing edge of any control surface increases the sensitivity ar
ound neutral but the RV-10 doesn't go fast enough to make a difference. =46rom
a safety aspect, it will be much better on your forearms and children's for
eheads if you file it down. This is another reason that proseal should be us
ed to join the skin and avex wedge. Makes for a nice, filled, paintable fini
shed product. Now back to my been there done that cave. Don't poke the bear.
Rick Sked
RV-10 40185 finished and sold
RV-10 41154 finishing
Do not archive
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:31 PM, "Chris" <toaster73@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Way back when I think this question came up and word I got was one enginee
r designed the tail feathers and another designed the ailerons. Each had a d
ifferent idea of how much the wedge should stick out. One thought a smidge t
he other thought none. It's all fine.
>
> -Chris Lucas
>
> #40072
>
> Flying
>
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> To: RV10-list
> Subject: RV10-List: Aileron trailing edge
>
>
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> I'm presently working on the trailing edge of my ailerons (please see jpg)
and have noticed the VA-140 wedge extrusion is sticking out of the aileron s
kins by almost 1/16". I obviously have not misplaced the extrusion as all h
oles are already punched. This is not the case with the rudder, elevators e
tc, as their skins are flush with the extrusion. Joe at Vans was not concer
ned, but still I can't help but think the skins are a little short.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else run into this?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Rick
>
> #40956
>
> Southampton, Ont
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron trailing edge |
When I had thoughts like that during my build, i typically compromised
with half a smidge. :D
jae
do not archive
On 1/4/2012 6:31 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> Way back when I think this question came up and word I got was one
> engineer designed the tail feathers and another designed the ailerons.
> Each had a different idea of how much the wedge should stick out. One
> thought a smidge the other thought none. It's all fine.
>
> -Chris Lucas
>
> #40072
>
> Flying
>
>
--
#40533 RV-10
First flight 10/19/2011
Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011
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| Subject: | Aileron trailing edge |
Guys, thx for the feedback.- I will file the extrusion slightly to help k
eep paint adhered to the trailing edge, and leave it at that.
-
Rick
--- On Thu, 1/5/12, Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> wrote:
From: Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aileron trailing edge
Received: Thursday, January 5, 2012, 2:31 AM
Way back when I think this question came up and word I got was one engineer
designed the tail feathers and another designed the ailerons. Each had a d
ifferent idea of how much the wedge should stick out. One thought a smidge
the other thought none. It's all fine.
-Chris Lucas
#40072
Flying
-
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:49 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Aileron trailing edge
-
Hi all
-
I'm presently working on the trailing edge of my ailerons (please see jpg)
and have noticed the VA-140 wedge extrusion is sticking out of the aileron
skins by almost 1/16".- I obviously have not misplaced the extrusion as a
ll holes are already punched.- This is not the case with the rudder, elev
ators etc, as their skins are flush with the extrusion.- Joe at Vans was
not concerned, but still I can't help but think the skins are a little shor
t.-
-
Has anyone else run into this?
-
Regards,-
-
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
-
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