---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/07/12: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:54 AM - Trimming Cabin top (billz) 2. 06:39 AM - Re: Trimming Cabin top (Dave Saylor) 3. 10:21 AM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Carlos Trigo) 4. 11:02 AM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Dave Saylor) 5. 11:23 AM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Alan Mekler) 6. 12:15 PM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Michael Kraus) 7. 12:37 PM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Robin Marks) 8. 12:43 PM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Rob Kermanj) 9. 01:06 PM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Bob Turner) 10. 01:23 PM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Tim Olson) 11. 01:40 PM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Kelly McMullen) 12. 03:21 PM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (g.combs) 13. 04:40 PM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Miller John) 14. 05:27 PM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Bill Watson) 15. 06:31 PM - Re: Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) (Michael Kraus) 16. 07:30 PM - belts (DLM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:37 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Trimming Cabin top From: "billz" I've got everything trimmed except the area around the left door. The bottom of the left door opening looks like it needs to be trimmed another 1/8 in? This will allow the top to drop the 1/8 in needed in the area just behind the door. My concern is making the area on the bottom of the door too thin. Perhaps I'm overly concerned, since there will be filling done in that area. Looking for ideas from those who have been through this, already. Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362654#362654 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1470_208.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1469_562.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:50 AM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Cabin top How thin will it end up if you take off that last 1/8"? There's not much if any of the vertical flange left by the time you're done. You may even end up taking off material from the bottom of the horizontal portion, that is, the section with the bevel on the outboard edge. Look at the entire surface across the bottom where the cabin cover bolts to the door sill and make sure you don't have a high spot that's interfering and keeping the cover from settling down to onto the sill. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, billz wrote: > > I've got everything trimmed except the area around the left door. The > bottom of the left door opening looks like it needs to be trimmed another > 1/8 in? This will allow the top to drop the 1/8 in needed in the area just > behind the door. My concern is making the area on the bottom of the door > too thin. Perhaps I'm overly concerned, since there will be filling done > in that area. > > Looking for ideas from those who have been through this, already. > Thanks > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362654#362654 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1470_208.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1469_562.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:59 AM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: RE: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) Folks Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement. I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail. Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast. Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs.. How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses? Carlos _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery placement Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be. Gary Specketer _____ From: "Carlos Trigo" Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM Subject: RV10-List: Battery placement Hello everybody I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10. Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail. Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere? Regards Carlos Trigo ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:02:36 AM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towbar, maybe another 5. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote : > ** > > Folks**** > > ** ** > > Thanks everybody for all the answers about the **Battery** placement.**** > > I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in th e > tail.**** > > ** ** > > Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.** * > * > > Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem > to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something > like 50 Lbs. **** > > How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?*** * > > ** ** > > Carlos**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *speckter@comcast.net > *Sent:* quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: **Battery** placement**** > > ** ** > > Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the > best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.**** > > **** > > Gary Specketer**** > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Carlos Trigo" > *To: *rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent: *Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM > *Subject: *RV10-List: Battery placement**** > > Hello everybody**** > > **** > > I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.**** > > Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery t o > be placed in the tail.**** > > **** > > Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery > elsewhere?**** > > **** > > **** > > Regards**** > > Carlos Trigo**** > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:10 AM PST US From: "Alan Mekler" Subject: RE: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) Carlos, I use 2 25lb lead shot bags. Alan N668G From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 1:15 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) Folks Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement. I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail. Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast. Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs.. How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses? Carlos _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery placement Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be. Gary Specketer _____ From: "Carlos Trigo" Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM Subject: RV10-List: Battery placement Hello everybody I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10. Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail. Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere? Regards Carlos Trigo ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:47 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) From: Michael Kraus I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: > I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towb ar, maybe another 5. > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA 95076 > 831-722-9141 Shop > 831-750-0284 Cell > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo wrot e: > Folks > > > > Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement. > > I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail. > > > > Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast. > > Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem t o be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 5 0 Lbs. > > How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses? > > > > Carlos > > > > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net > Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery placement > > > > Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the b est place to make the CG come out where it needs to be. > > > > Gary Specketer > > From: "Carlos Trigo" > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM > Subject: RV10-List: Battery placement > > Hello everybody > > > > I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10. > > Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail. > > > > Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewher e? > > > > > > Regards > > Carlos Trigo > > > > > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:37:24 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: 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Do not have any problems. do not archive Rob Kermanj On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Alan Mekler wrote: > Carlos, > I use 2 25lb lead shot bags. > Alan > N668G > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 1:15 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) > > Folks > > Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement. > I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail. > > Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast. > Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs=85. > How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses? > > Carlos > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net > Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery placement > > Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be. > > Gary Specketer > > From: "Carlos Trigo" > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM > Subject: RV10-List: Battery placement > > Hello everybody > > I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10. > Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail. > > Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere? > > > Regards > Carlos Trigo > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) From: "Bob Turner" I keep a tool box back there. Note, you want to be able to remove the extra weight. The -10 is not like a 182, where it is nearly impossible to be out of cg. I'm a lighter pilot (160 lbs) and need 20 lbs in the cargo area when solo. But if I really want to load the plane up to gross, the cg can go too far aft (especially at zero fuel) unless I'm careful. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362673#362673 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:23:34 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) From: Tim Olson Ditto except for me it's not often I'm solo....but I don't add anything when solo and it's perfectly fine. Tim On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > I initially flew with some ballast in back. At some point ~50 hours in I r emoved the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the ballast b ack. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never have an issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo. > > Robin > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) > > I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: > > I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towb ar, maybe another 5. > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA 95076 > 831-722-9141 Shop > 831-750-0284 Cell > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo wrot e: > Folks > > Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement. > I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail. > > Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast. > Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem t o be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 5 0 Lbs. > How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses? > > Carlos > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net > Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery placement > > Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. 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Nothing to lose when you want to shed the weight. On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Michael Kraus wrote: > I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set. > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo wrot e: > >> ** >> >> Folks**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks everybody for all the answers about the **Battery** placement.*** * >> >> I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in >> the tail.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.* * >> ** >> >> Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) see m >> to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something >> like 50 Lbs=85. **** >> >> How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?** * >> * >> >> ** ** >> >> Carlos**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *speckter@comcast.ne t >> *Sent:* quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: **Battery** placement**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the >> best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.**** >> >> **** >> >> Gary Specketer**** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Carlos Trigo" >> *To: *rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM >> *Subject: *RV10-List: Battery placement**** >> >> Hello everybody**** >> >> **** >> >> I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.**** >> >> Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery >> to be placed in the tail.**** >> >> **** >> >> Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery >> elsewhere?**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> Regards**** >> >> Carlos Trigo**** >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > * > > ======================== > ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ======================== ===========cs.com > ======================== ===========matronics.com/contribution > ======================== > * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:21:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) From: "g.combs" As Robin and Tim said Ditto for me Geoff Sent from my iPhone Geoff On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > Ditto except for me it's not often I'm solo....but I don't add anything wh en solo and it's perfectly fine. > Tim > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > >> I initially flew with some ballast in back. At some point ~50 hours in I r emoved the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the ballast b ack. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never have an issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo. >> >> Robin >> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server @matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus >> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) >> >> I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: >> >> I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the tow bar, maybe another 5. >> >> Dave Saylor >> AirCrafters >> 140 Aviation Way >> Watsonville, CA 95076 >> 831-722-9141 Shop >> 831-750-0284 Cell >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo wro te: >> Folks >> >> Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement. >> I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in th e tail. >> >> Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast. >> Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something lik e 50 Lbs. >> How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses? >> >> Carlos >> >> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server @matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net >> Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery placement >> >> Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. 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At some point ~50 hours in I removed the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the ballast back. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never have an issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo. >>> >>> Robin >>> >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus >>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 AM >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) >>> >>> I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: >>> >>> I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towbar, maybe another 5. >>> >>> Dave Saylor >>> AirCrafters >>> 140 Aviation Way >>> Watsonville, CA 95076 >>> 831-722-9141 Shop >>> 831-750-0284 Cell >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote: >>> Folks >>> >>> Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement. >>> I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail. >>> >>> Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast. >>> Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs. >>> How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses? >>> >>> Carlos >>> >>> >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net >>> Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery placement >>> >>> Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. 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Stick is fully back in the flare when solo and that seems nice. A lot of stuff can end up behind the rear bulkhead... 2 batts, strobe owner s upply, AP servo, dual AHRS, dual magnetometers, and ELT in my case (and I su spect in most others). Do it per plans, add goodies as desired, liberally u se optional Vans mounting plates for behind he bulkhead area, then do W&B. W orked great with no ballast required here. Bill Sent from my iPad On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Miller John wrote: > I don't have any ballast in my baggage compartment either when flying solo , and no problems either. > > grumpy > > do not archive > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 5:13 PM, g.combs wrote: > >> As Robin and Tim said >> >> Ditto for me >> >> Geoff >> >> Sent from my iPhone Geoff >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >>> Ditto except for me it's not often I'm solo....but I don't add anything w hen solo and it's perfectly fine. >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Robin Marks wrote: >>> >>>> I initially flew with some ballast in back. At some point ~50 hours in I removed the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the ballast back. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never have a n issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo. >>>> >>>> Robin >>>> >>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 AM >>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) >>>> >>>> I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: >>>> >>>> I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the t owbar, maybe another 5. >>>> >>>> Dave Saylor >>>> AirCrafters >>>> 140 Aviation Way >>>> Watsonville, CA 95076 >>>> 831-722-9141 Shop >>>> 831-750-0284 Cell >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo w rote: >>>> Folks >>>> >>>> Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement. >>>> I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in t he tail. >>>> >>>> Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast. >>>> Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) se em to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something l ike 50 Lbs. >>>> How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses? >>>> >>>> Carlos >>>> >>>> >>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net >>>> Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 >>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery placement >>>> >>>> Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be th e best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gary Specketer >>>> >>>> From: "Carlos Trigo" >>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM >>>> Subject: RV10-List: Battery placement >>>> >>>> Hello everybody >>>> >>>> I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10. >>>> Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail. >>>> >>>> Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsew here? >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Carlos Trigo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ======================== >>>> ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>> ======================== >>>> cs.com >>>> ======================== >>>> matronics.com/contribution >>>> ======================== >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ============= 10-List Email Forum - p> o:p> o r?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ====== ======= sp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - p> p://forums.matronic s.com ============= sp; - List Contribution Web S ite - > sp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ution">http://www.ma tronics.com/contribution ============ >>>> >>>> )=EF=BD=EF=BD=DF=A2{l=EF=BD7=EF=BDr=EF=BDh=EF=BDM4=EF =BDM=1Fi=C7=9C=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDz=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF =BD.=EF=BD'=EF=BDN=17=EF=BDW]=0B=EF=BD=EF=BDD=EF=BD=EF=BD =EF=BD=16=EF=BD=EF=BDK=1E=EF=BD=17=EF=BDj=EF=BD=EF=BD', .+-=15=E6=AD=BA=EF=BD=EF=BD5=EF=BD=81=ABh=EF=BD=EF=BD=1B=EF =BD=EF=BD,z=EF=BD^=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD.+-=EF=BD=D8=A5=EF =BD=D8=9E=EF=BD=CB=9C=EF=BD=EF=BD=0B=EF=BD=EF=BDT=EF=BD=EF =BDn=EF=BD+=EF=BD=EF=BDb=EF=BDp+r=18=EF=BDy'=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BDC=EF=BD =E5=A1=A7{ =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD,x(Z =EF=BDP=10>=1A-=EF=BD=EF=BDZ=EF=BD=EF=BDvk=EF=BD=EF=BDk =EF=BD=EF=BDj+y=EF=BDky=EF=BDm=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD =0C&j=EF=BD=EF=BD',r=EF=BD=EF=BD5=EF=BD=81=ABh=EF=BD=15 u=D0=B8=EF=BD=EF=BD=1Bm=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD =EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BD'=EF=BD=EF=BD=1C=EF=BDo=EF=BDj=EF=BDj =EF=BD+E]t.+-=EF=BDM=13=EF=BD $=EF=BD=10=11NEC=12I=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD'=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD j[(j=EF=BD=EF=BDz=EF=BD=17=EF=BDy=EF=BDh=EF=BD=EF=BDj=1A =EF=BD~=1Bm=EF=BD=EF=BD=DF=A2=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDf=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BDr=EF=BD(=EF=BD=1Bm=EF=BD=EF=BD=DF=A2=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BDf=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDr=EF=BD(=EF=BD =EF=BD=EF=BDB=EF=BD{k=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF =BDy=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDjy2=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF =BD*.=EF=BD=07=EF=BDz=EF=BD.=EF=BD=CB=A9=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF =BD1=EF=BDm=0E=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=1D =EF=BD)=DA=86=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDi=EF=BD=EF=BD0=EF =BDf=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDr=EF=BD(=EF=BD=EF=BD(=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BDn=EF=BDb=EF=BDxm=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF =BD=0C&j=EF=BD=EF=BD',r=EF=BD=EF=BDr=EF=BD=EF=BD&=EF=BD *'=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD'=EF=BD=EF=BDk{=EF=BD=EF=BD w/=EF=BDi >>> >>> >>> ========= >>> ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========= >>> ums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========= >>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribu tion >>> ========= >>> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution >> > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:31:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) From: Michael Kraus Ok, so I'm going to chime in here. On my -10 there is no ballast that is re quired, but with 2 cases of water while flying solo allows me a much better f lare on landing. Without it, the plane lands much flatter. Is it required? No, does it feel and land better? Yes. YMMV -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Bill Watson wrote: > No ballast here either. Stick is fully back in the flare when solo and th at seems nice. > > A lot of stuff can end up behind the rear bulkhead... 2 batts, strobe owne r supply, AP servo, dual AHRS, dual magnetometers, and ELT in my case (and I suspect in most others). Do it per plans, add goodies as desired, liberall y use optional Vans mounting plates for behind he bulkhead area, then do W&B . Worked great with no ballast required here. > > Bill > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Miller John wrote: > >> I don't have any ballast in my baggage compartment either when flying sol o, and no problems either. >> >> grumpy >> >> do not archive >> >> On Jan 7, 2012, at 5:13 PM, g.combs wrote: >> >>> As Robin and Tim said >>> >>> Ditto for me >>> >>> Geoff >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone Geoff >>> >>> >>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>>> Ditto except for me it's not often I'm solo....but I don't add anything when solo and it's perfectly fine. >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Robin Marks wrote: >>>> >>>>> I initially flew with some ballast in back. At some point ~50 hours in I removed the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the balla st back. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never hav e an issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo. >>>>> >>>>> Robin >>>>> >>>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-ser ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 AM >>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) >>>>> >>>>> I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the t owbar, maybe another 5. >>>>> >>>>> Dave Saylor >>>>> AirCrafters >>>>> 140 Aviation Way >>>>> Watsonville, CA 95076 >>>>> 831-722-9141 Shop >>>>> 831-750-0284 Cell >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo w rote: >>>>> Folks >>>>> >>>>> Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement. >>>>> I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail. >>>>> >>>>> Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast .. >>>>> Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) s eem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something l ike 50 Lbs. >>>>> How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses? >>>>> >>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-ser ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net >>>>> Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03 >>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery placement >>>>> >>>>> Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. 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The info has been added to another builder's site. As needed the list can access the data at http://www.n423cf.com/belts/index.html . 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