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1. 06:21 AM - Re: Slick magneto inspection (Kevin Belue)
2. 06:44 AM - Re: Slick magneto inspection (Sean Stephens)
3. 07:10 AM - Re: Slick magneto inspection (David Maib)
4. 07:22 AM - Re: Slick magneto inspection (John Cox)
5. 07:26 AM - Re: Slick magneto inspection (Dan Masys)
6. 01:01 PM - New Gust Lock (Robin Marks)
7. 01:21 PM - New Headset Bracket Design (Robin Marks)
8. 01:22 PM - More Flying Photos (Robin Marks)
9. 05:00 PM - Re: New Headset Bracket Design (Chris Johnston)
10. 05:25 PM - Re: New Headset Bracket Design (Robin Marks)
11. 07:05 PM - Airflow Fuel Pump (Tom Ganster)
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto inspection |
It seems that every time I have a mag failure it is around 500hrs, so I don'
t skip the inspections. I think you'd be very lucky to get 1500 hrs without d
oing anything.
Kevin Belue
RV-10
RV-6A
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 10, 2012, at 6:14 PM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com> wrote:
> Anyone performing the 500 hour inspection SB ? I know that 135 operators a
re required but in the =9Cgood=9D old days magnetos went to 1500
-2000 hours.
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto inspection |
No advice, but I watched a good EAA Webinar on magnetos last week.
http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=1367499350001
I have little to no experience with the items in front of the stainless
so I am trying to learn all I can before the engine arrives.
-Sean #40303 (prepping for IFR checkride, nerves frayed :) )
On 1/11/12 8:11 AM, Kevin Belue wrote:
> It seems that every time I have a mag failure it is around 500hrs, so
> I don't skip the inspections. I think you'd be very lucky to get 1500
> hrs without doing anything.
>
> Kevin Belue
> RV-10
> RV-6A
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 10, 2012, at 6:14 PM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com
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>> Anyone performing the 500 hour inspection SB ? I know that 135
>> operators are required but in the good old days magnetos went to
>> 1500-2000 hours.
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto inspection |
I watched the EAA Webinar on magnetos last week as well. It was very
informative. I learned a lot about magnetos, and will definitely be
sending mine out for IRAN at 500 hours. I also would not consider
doing it myself or having the local A&P do it after attending the
webinar. For me, a certified magneto shop is the way to go.
David Maib
RV-10 40559
Flying
On Jan 11, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Sean Stephens wrote:
> <sean@stephensville.com>
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> No advice, but I watched a good EAA Webinar on magnetos last week.
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> http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=1367499350001
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> I have little to no experience with the items in front of the
> stainless so I am trying to learn all I can before the engine arrives.
>
> -Sean #40303 (prepping for IFR checkride, nerves frayed :) )
>
> On 1/11/12 8:11 AM, Kevin Belue wrote:
>> It seems that every time I have a mag failure it is around 500hrs,
>> so I don't skip the inspections. I think you'd be very lucky to
>> get 1500 hrs without doing anything.
>>
>> Kevin Belue
>> RV-10
>> RV-6A
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 10, 2012, at 6:14 PM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com
>> <mailto:dlm34077@q.com>> wrote:
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>>> Anyone performing the 500 hour inspection SB ? I know that 135
>>> operators are required but in the good old days magnetos went
>>> to 1500-2000 hours.
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto inspection |
Yes. Too much of the Slick component need attention before 1000 hours.
Bendix were built like a tank and "seemed" to go longer.
Lighter weight and more frequent checks for wear. Not withstanding that
bad set of carbon contacts a few years ago "as found new" on Slicks.
Trust but verify not later than 500. Retiming annually is the minor
adjustment for normal wear.
John
On Jan 11, 2012 6:27 AM, "Kevin Belue" <kdbelue@charter.net> wrote:
> It seems that every time I have a mag failure it is around 500hrs, so I
> don't skip the inspections. I think you'd be very lucky to get 1500 hrs
> without doing anything.
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> Kevin Belue
> RV-10
> RV-6A
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 10, 2012, at 6:14 PM, "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com> wrote:
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> are required but in the =93good=94 old days magnetos went to 1500-2000 ho
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto inspection |
> From: davidsoutpost@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick magneto inspection
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> Timely post. I just packaged my O-235 Slicks up and am sending them to thes
> e folks: http://www.aircraftmagnetoservices.com/
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> David Clifford
> RV-10 Builder
> Howell, MI
Aircraft Magneto Services is in our neighborhood here in the Pacific Northwest,
and they are terrific. It's actually a little house in the forest on Bainbridge
Island, though for many years they were on the field at Paine Field in Everett,
WA until the rent went through the roof (halo effect of Boeing's final assembly
operations there having $100 billion or so of orders on the books).
I asked the owner whether I could do my own magneto maintenance, since I had gotten
the mag service kit from Spruce. He said that the major expense is not the
tools to rebuild the magneto, it's the test equipment they use. After rebuilding
they put every magneto in an oven to heat it up for a few hours, then do
a waveform inspection of its spark output while hot and running at high RPM.
I was impressed that when they put their yellow tag on a mag, it is a quality
piece of work.
Interestingly, they had to replace the shaft and bearings on one of my Slick that
was 500 hrs since factory new and installed by Lycoming -- still had the Lycoming
yellow paint on the hold-down nuts from the factory build. They showed
me where Lycoming had failed to put shaft lubricant on the mag during installation,
resulting in overheating, corrosion, and a slightly bent shaft. I had
no idea, since that mag had always timed perfectly.
So, would anybody be interested in a completely unused magneto assembly and timing kit? (see http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/slickassykit.php )
Like David, from this point forward I just put 'em in a box every 500 hrs and send
them to the folks who really know their stuff.
-Dan Masys
RV-10 N104LD 510 hrs
RV-12 N122LD 98 hrs
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We recently have been experimenting with a gust lock mechanism for our RV-1
0 that holds the stick in place w/o the use of seat belts etc... The goal w
as to design a small unit to lock the control surfaces in a neutral positio
n without using the seatbelts or other systems that could shift over time.
We played with a number of different designs but most were not completely s
uccessful due to the curvature of the stick around the binding area. Ultima
tely we decided to place a hard point on the stick to guarantee no movement
when attached. I was worried that the stick hard point may get in the way
but it is a non-issue. Photos of our final design.
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Gust Lock RV-10\Gust Lock Bracket RV
-10 (1).JPG]
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Gust Lock RV-10\Gust Lock Bracket RV
-10 (2).JPG]
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Gust Lock RV-10\Gust Lock Bracket RV
-10 (4).JPG]
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Gust Lock RV-10\Gust Lock Bracket RV
-10 (6).JPG]
The above design is made from solid stock. Had we to start from scratch we
would probably build it out of thinner (lighter) aluminum made structurally
sound with reinforcement and bends. Also properly designed a single seat s
ide pin is all that would be needed. We ended up with two pins because the
holes were already there from a prior concept.
Mate this with our Rudder Gust Lock (below) and you have a pretty simple &
small locking system. I keep both parts in a Ziploc bag stored in the bagga
ge area.
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Pictures\Airplanes\RV-8A\RV-8A Build Photos\
Baggage door, gust lock, pitot cover 002.jpg]
Robin
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| Subject: | New Headset Bracket Design |
We have recently been playing around with a headset bracket that would work
with the beautiful Aerosport interior we recently installed. In my 8A we w
ent the simple route with a color matched nylon strap and Velcro to hold th
e headsets when not in use. For the RV-10 I wanted the headsets low & out o
f the way for several reasons. Because of how low I wanted the headsets usi
ng a strap was not that easy to reach. We built up a hanging bracket that i
s ultra-light weight (thin material) and hangs over the edge of the interio
r paneling. Works well so far and keeps the headsets substantially out of v
iew.
Robin
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Headset Bracket\Headset Bracket (2).
JPG][Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Headset Bracket\Headset Bracket
(3).JPG][Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Headset Bracket\Headset Brac
ket (4).JPG]
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| Subject: | More Flying Photos |
Another crappy January flight in California :-)
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Headset Bracket\Flight to SBP 1-10-1
2 Small.jpg]
Turn 30 degrees left for 3 O'clock traffic (F-18) as I was leaving LA Class
B.
[Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\Headset Bracket\F-18 3 oclock.jpg]
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: New Headset Bracket Design |
Did you get a 3 axis CNC mill for Christmas? Sure seems like it! :)
cj
On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
We have recently been playing around with a headset bracket that would work
with the beautiful Aerosport interior we recently installed. In my 8A we w
ent the simple route with a color matched nylon strap and Velcro to hold th
e headsets when not in use. For the RV-10 I wanted the headsets low & out o
f the way for several reasons. Because of how low I wanted the headsets usi
ng a strap was not that easy to reach. We built up a hanging bracket that i
s ultra-light weight (thin material) and hangs over the edge of the interio
r paneling. Works well so far and keeps the headsets substantially out of v
iew.
Robin
<image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg>
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Chris Johnston (CJ)
Re-recording Mixer / Sound Supervisor
POP Sound
625 Arizona Ave.
Santa Monica, CA 90401
310.587.1255 (direct)
310.587.1222 (fax)
310.770.9548 (cell)
cjohnston@popsound.com<mailto:cjohnston@popsound.com>
www.popsound.com<http://www.popsound.com>
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| Subject: | New Headset Bracket Design |
This was done on a standard lathe. I have a 5 axis CNC lathe plus several H
aas CNC mills at my factory but the only thing more expensive than hiring t
hese jobs out is to build ANYTHING in house. My father-in-law was famous fo
r saying "why buy something when we can build it for three times the price"
He was right...
Nice to see you on the list Chris! My 8A is down for a new top end. Flew gr
eat as it was and very fast too but the warning signs were there so 4 new f
low matched, ported & polished cylinders are headed my way.
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Headset Bracket Design
Did you get a 3 axis CNC mill for Christmas? Sure seems like it! :)
cj
On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
We have recently been playing around with a headset bracket that would work
with the beautiful Aerosport interior we recently installed. In my 8A we w
ent the simple route with a color matched nylon strap and Velcro to hold th
e headsets when not in use. For the RV-10 I wanted the headsets low & out o
f the way for several reasons. Because of how low I wanted the headsets usi
ng a strap was not that easy to reach. We built up a hanging bracket that i
s ultra-light weight (thin material) and hangs over the edge of the interio
r paneling. Works well so far and keeps the headsets substantially out of v
iew.
Robin
<image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg>
do not archive
Chris Johnston (CJ)
Re-recording Mixer / Sound Supervisor
POP Sound
625 Arizona Ave.
Santa Monica, CA 90401
310.587.1255 (direct)
310.587.1222 (fax)
310.770.9548 (cell)
cjohnston@popsound.com<mailto:cjohnston@popsound.com>
www.popsound.com<http://www.popsound.com>
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| Subject: | Airflow Fuel Pump |
I have a Airflow Performance fuel pump for sale. It is the ES Airflow Fuel
Pump that Vans sells in their catalog for $415.00. The pump is brand new,
still in the box (came with my engine). I would like to get $350.00 +
shipping OBO. Please reply to my direct email if you are interested.
Tom Ganster CLI, Wisconsin
Wiring panel #40778
taganster@gmail.com
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