RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 01/12/12


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:37 AM - Re: New Gust Lock (johngoodman)
     2. 09:08 AM - Re: Re: New Gust Lock (Robin Marks)
     3. 10:08 AM - Re: Re: New Gust Lock (Ben Westfall)
     4. 12:18 PM - Re: Re: New Gust Lock (Robin Marks)
     5. 04:41 PM - Re: LAX (cjay)
     6. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: LAX (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:37:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: New Gust Lock
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    Robin, if there are no clearance issues, then it looks like an excellent design. Just out of curiosity, would this design also allow for an optional crotch belt? John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363154#363154


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    Time: 09:08:18 AM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Re: New Gust Lock
    Zero clearance issues. I don't fully understand your question. Are you saying you have a crotch be lt and want to know if our design will work when considering the belt attac hment area? Because the -10 is the only movable seat in the RV line of airc raft I don't see how anyone has a crotch belt for the front occupants. Not sure where it attaches with the seat moving forward & back? That being said our design should work because we basically attach forward of the leading edge of the seat "bench" area. Regardless there are MANY different ways to attach to the "bench" area, the key was the hard point on the stick. Even that can be varied by having the hard point facing forward vs. facing aft in my set up and making the actua l gust lock grab around the stick and connect to the forward facing hard po int opening. One could also make the attachment area "straddle" any items t hat may be in the way. I drew up a few different concepts to consider (atta ched). The beauty of the forward facing hard point is that you can hang your fuzzy dice or pine fresh smelling tree from the hole when not in use. :-) Good luck, Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: New Gust Lock --> <johngoodman@earthlink.net> Robin, if there are no clearance issues, then it looks like an excellent de sign. Just out of curiosity, would this design also allow for an optional c rotch belt? John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363154#363154


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    Time: 10:08:13 AM PST US
    From: "Ben Westfall" <rv10@sinkrate.com>
    Subject: Re: New Gust Lock
    Robin, Did you consider a hinged piece on the gust lock itself that closes around and captures the stick instead of attaching the locking tab? Drilling into the stick shouldn't be an issue but it would be that much easier to install and leave no trace if removed. Some form of capture method may work with the larger diameter of a covered stick as well. -Ben -----Original Message----- Zero clearance issues. I don't fully understand your question. Are you saying you have a crotch belt and want to know if our design will work when considering the belt attachment area? Because the -10 is the only movable seat in the RV line of aircraft I don't see how anyone has a crotch belt for the front occupants. Not sure where it attaches with the seat moving forward & back? That being said our design should work because we basically attach forward of the leading edge of the seat "bench" area. Regardless there are MANY different ways to attach to the "bench" area, the key was the hard point on the stick. Even that can be varied by having the hard point facing forward vs. facing aft in my set up and making the actual gust lock grab around the stick and connect to the forward facing hard point opening. One could also make the attachment area "straddle" any items that may be in the way. I drew up a few different concepts to consider (attached). The beauty of the forward facing hard point is that you can hang your fuzzy dice or pine fresh smelling tree from the hole when not in use. :-) Good luck, Robin


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    Time: 12:18:29 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Re: New Gust Lock
    Yes our first concept was a complete failure (below). The issue is the curvature of the stick. Note scratched stick. Bummer. The hard point solved all the issues. One could take this design and add a couple of legs to the base to support the bracket from falling down. Plus an edge trim to prevent scuffing the st ick. Keep in mind this all started with a discussion of parking your plane outside during a sudden major weather event. What would surely prevent the control surfaces from moving? This was our solution. There are others.. The stick hard point is very positive in locking the entire system together . Robin [Description: J:\Users\Robin_2\Desktop\RV 10 Build Photos\Stick Lock\Stick lock, bluetooth 007.jpg] -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:02 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: New Gust Lock v10@sinkrate.com>> Robin, Did you consider a hinged piece on the gust lock itself that closes around and captures the stick instead of attaching the locking tab? Drilling into the stick shouldn't be an issue but it would be that much easier to instal l and leave no trace if removed. Some form of capture method may work with the larger diameter of a covered stick as well. -Ben -----Original Message----- Zero clearance issues. I don't fully understand your question. Are you saying you have a crotch be lt and want to know if our design will work when considering the belt attac hment area? Because the -10 is the only movable seat in the RV line of airc raft I don't see how anyone has a crotch belt for the front occupants. Not sure where it attaches with the seat moving forward & back? That being said our design should work because we basically attach forward of the lead ing edge of the seat "bench" area. Regardless there are MANY different ways to attach to the "bench" area, the key was the hard point on the stick. Even that can be varied by having the hard point facing forward vs. facing aft in my set up and making the actua l gust lock grab around the stick and connect to the forward facing hard po int opening. One could also make the attachment area "straddle" any items t hat may be in the way. I drew up a few different concepts to consider (atta ched). The beauty of the forward facing hard point is that you can hang your fuzzy dice or pine fresh smelling tree from the hole when not in use. :-) Good luck, Robin


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    Time: 04:41:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: LAX
    From: "cjay" <cgfinney@yahoo.com>
    Probably missed you, but Zamperini Field (Toa) is a good South Bay alternative, with easy access to rental cars and the beach. Also Santa Monica (KSMO). Curious if you actually landed at LAX, that would be an adventure worth reporting? jesse(at)saintaviation.co wrote: > I'm flying into LAX this afternoon and leave tomorrow afternoon. Anybody in the area have any suggestions for a place to stay and/or words of wisdom for the city? Any projects near there? > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > www.mavericklsa.com > C: 352-427-0285 > O: 352-465-4545 > F: 815-377-3694 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363497#363497


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    Time: 05:43:03 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Re: LAX
    I think someone else was driving. :) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:49 PM, "cjay" <cgfinney@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Probably missed you, but Zamperini Field (Toa) is a good South Bay alternative, with easy access to rental cars and the beach. Also Santa Monica (KSMO). Curious if you actually landed at LAX, that would be an adventure worth reporting? > > > jesse(at)saintaviation.co wrote: >> I'm flying into LAX this afternoon and leave tomorrow afternoon. Anybody in the area have any suggestions for a place to stay and/or words of wisdom for the city? Any projects near there? >> >> Jesse Saint >> I-TEC, Inc. >> jesse@itecusa.org >> www.itecusa.org >> www.mavericklsa.com >> C: 352-427-0285 >> O: 352-465-4545 >> F: 815-377-3694 > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363497#363497 > > > > > > > > > >




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