RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/13/12


Total Messages Posted: 27



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:12 AM - Re: New Headset Bracket Design (Rob Kermanj)
     2. 08:21 AM - Re: New Headset Bracket Design (Robin Marks)
     3. 09:00 AM - Re: New Headset Bracket Design (Paul Bowmar)
     4. 09:10 AM - Re: New Headset Bracket Design (Rob Kermanj)
     5. 10:20 AM - I signed a petition against aviation user fees and got this response (Dave Saylor)
     6. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: New Gust Lock (Chris)
     7. 10:47 AM - Re: I signed a petition against aviation user fees and got this response (Jack Phillips)
     8. 10:58 AM - Re: I signed a petition against aviation user fees and 	got this response (Dj Merrill)
     9. 11:17 AM - Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Chris)
    10. 12:47 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Seano)
    11. 01:07 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Chris)
    12. 01:45 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (rv10flyer)
    13. 01:49 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Seano)
    14. 01:57 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Robin Marks)
    15. 02:12 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Sean Stephens)
    16. 04:50 PM - rv10 embroidery file (David Leikam)
    17. 05:17 PM - Re: rv10 embroidery file (Tim Olson)
    18. 05:45 PM - Re: rv10 embroidery file (Rob Kermanj)
    19. 05:53 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Chris)
    20. 05:54 PM - Re: rv10 embroidery file (Chris)
    21. 06:42 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Robin Marks)
    22. 07:02 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Bill Watson)
    23. 07:18 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Pascal)
    24. 08:10 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Michael Kraus)
    25. 08:22 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Seano)
    26. 08:59 PM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Scott Schmidt)
    27. 09:35 PM - plane canopies (Linn Walters)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:12:56 AM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: New Headset Bracket Design
    Well... do tell how we can buy a pair. Do not archive Rob Kermanj On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > We have recently been playing around with a headset bracket that would work with the beautiful Aerosport interior we recently installed. In my 8A we went the simple route with a color matched nylon strap and Velcro to hold the headsets when not in use. For the RV-10 I wanted the headsets low & out of the way for several reasons. Because of how low I wanted the headsets using a strap was not that easy to reach. We built up a hanging bracket that is ultra-light weight (thin material) and hangs over the edge of the interior paneling. Works well so far and keeps the headsets substantially out of view. > > Robin > > <image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg>


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    Time: 08:21:56 AM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: New Headset Bracket Design
    Rob, I was just showing our solution. No commerce here. If you can't make a set then I would try go with the nylon strap & Velcro. Making those are ul tra easy and they work just as well it's just a little harder to reach to p ut in the headsets in place. I will try to snap a few photos soon of the se tup we use on the 8A. Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 3:09 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Headset Bracket Design Well... do tell how we can buy a pair. Do not archive Rob Kermanj On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Robin Marks wrote: We have recently been playing around with a headset bracket that would work with the beautiful Aerosport interior we recently installed. In my 8A we w ent the simple route with a color matched nylon strap and Velcro to hold th e headsets when not in use. For the RV-10 I wanted the headsets low & out o f the way for several reasons. Because of how low I wanted the headsets usi ng a strap was not that easy to reach. We built up a hanging bracket that i s ultra-light weight (thin material) and hangs over the edge of the interio r paneling. Works well so far and keeps the headsets substantially out of v iew. Robin <image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg>


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    Time: 09:00:05 AM PST US
    From: Paul Bowmar <paul@bwbco.com>
    Subject: Re: New Headset Bracket Design
    Robin, Would you please call me re your gust locks? Paul Bowmar (435) 826-4601 On Jan 13, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Robin Marks wrote: > Rob, I was just showing our solution. No commerce here. If you can=92t make a set then I would try go with the nylon strap & Velcro. Making those are ultra easy and they work just as well it's just a little harder to reach to put in the headsets in place. I will try to snap a few photos soon of the setup we use on the 8A. > > Robin > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 3:09 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Headset Bracket Design > > Well... do tell how we can buy a pair. > > Do not archive > > Rob Kermanj > > > > On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > > > We have recently been playing around with a headset bracket that would work with the beautiful Aerosport interior we recently installed. In my 8A we went the simple route with a color matched nylon strap and Velcro to hold the headsets when not in use. For the RV-10 I wanted the headsets low & out of the way for several reasons. Because of how low I wanted the headsets using a strap was not that easy to reach. We built up a hanging bracket that is ultra-light weight (thin material) and hangs over the edge of the interior paneling. Works well so far and keeps the headsets substantially out of view. > > Robin > > <image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg> > > > > ============== V10-List Email Forum - > :p> /o:p> tor?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ============== bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - :p> tp://forums.matronics.com ============ == bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - e> bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============= > > > > >


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    Time: 09:10:56 AM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: New Headset Bracket Design
    Got it. Thanks Do not archive. Rob Kermanj On Jan 13, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Robin Marks wrote: > Rob, I was just showing our solution. No commerce here. If you can=92t make a set then I would try go with the nylon strap & Velcro. Making those are ultra easy and they work just as well it's just a little harder to reach to put in the headsets in place. I will try to snap a few photos soon of the setup we use on the 8A. > > Robin > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 3:09 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Headset Bracket Design > > Well... do tell how we can buy a pair. > > Do not archive > > Rob Kermanj > > > > On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > > > We have recently been playing around with a headset bracket that would work with the beautiful Aerosport interior we recently installed. In my 8A we went the simple route with a color matched nylon strap and Velcro to hold the headsets when not in use. For the RV-10 I wanted the headsets low & out of the way for several reasons. Because of how low I wanted the headsets using a strap was not that easy to reach. We built up a hanging bracket that is ultra-light weight (thin material) and hangs over the edge of the interior paneling. Works well so far and keeps the headsets substantially out of view. > > Robin > > <image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg> > > > > ============== V10-List Email Forum - > :p> /o:p> tor?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ============== bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - :p>tp://forums.matronics.com ============ == bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - e> bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============= > > > > >


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    Time: 10:20:32 AM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: I signed a petition against aviation user fees and got this
    response Enjoy! Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell Do Not Archive ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: The White House <info@messages.whitehouse.gov> Subject: Petition Response: Why We Need Aviation User Fees Why We Need Aviation User Fees By Dana Hyde, Associate Director for General Government Programs, Office of Management and Budget Thank you for signing the petition "Take Aviation User Fees Off the Table." We appreciate your participation in the We the People platform on WhiteHouse.gov and your concerns about user fees in a challenging economy. In a challenging budget environment, the Obama Administration believes its essential that those who benefit from our world-class aviation system help pay for its ongoing operation. And we want to ensure that everyone is paying their fair share. For example, under current law, a large commercial aircraft flying from Los Angeles to San Francisco pays between twenty-one and thirty-three times the fuel taxes paid by a corporate jet flying the same route and using the same FAA air traffic services. This is why the Administration proposed to establish a new surcharge for air traffic services. The proposed $100 per flight fee would generate an estimated $11 billion over 10 years, reducing the deficit and more equitably sharing the cost of air traffic services across the aviation user community. All piston aircraft, military aircraft, public aircraft, air ambulances, aircraft operating outside of controlled airspace, and Canada-to-Canada flights would be exempted. We appreciate your petition's acknowledgment that there needs to be an increased user contribution to aviation system funding in the current fiscal climate, and we recognize that some would prefer to raise the tax rate on aviation fuel. At the same time, we have concluded that a $100 per flight user fee is an equitable way for those who benefit to bear the cost of this essential service. As we work to get our Nation back on a sustainable fiscal path, the Administration is making tough choices across the Federal budget and asking everyone to do their fair share. We recognize these shared sacrifices are not easy, but together with investments in our economic growth and job creation, they will make us stronger and more competitive for the future. We look forward to working collaboratively with the Congress and the aviation stakeholder community on this issue, and thank you again for your constructive input. Check out this response on We the People. Stay Connected Stay connected to the White House by signing up for periodic email updates from President Obama and other senior administration officials. Facebook Twitter YouTube Flickr iTunes This email was sent to dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com Manage Subscriptions for dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com Sign Up for Updates from the White House Click here to unsubscribe | Privacy Policy Please do not reply to this email. Contact the White House The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW Washington, DC 20500 202-456-1111


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    Time: 10:27:58 AM PST US
    From: Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: New Gust Lock
    Robin this is great timing I too have been working a similar design but have not built one yet. I was looking at incorporating this RAM mount (see link) to hold the stick vice the permanent tab approach (which I like too). I ahve not done any "robustness" analysis yet. I also want to integrate rudder lock. http://www.ram-mount.com/NewProducts/ezstrapmotorcyclemount/tabid/3599/Default.aspx -Chris Lucas N919AR Flying ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:16:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: New Gust Lock Yes our first concept was a complete failure (below). The issue is the curvature of the stick. Note scratched stick. Bummer. The hard point solved all the issues. One could take this design and add a couple of legs to the base to support the bracket from falling down. Plus an edge trim to prevent scuffing the stick. Keep in mind this all started with a discussion of parking your plane outside during a sudden major weather event. What would surely prevent the control surfaces from moving? This was our solution. There are others.. The stick hard point is very positive in locking the entire system together. Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:02 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: New Gust Lock Robin, Did you consider a hinged piece on the gust lock itself that closes around and captures the stick instead of attaching the locking tab? Drilling into the stick shouldn't be an issue but it would be that much easier to install and leave no trace if removed. Some form of capture method may work with the larger diameter of a covered stick as well. -Ben -----Original Message----- Zero clearance issues. I don't fully understand your question. Are you saying you have a crotch belt and want to know if our design will work when considering the belt attachment area? Because the -10 is the only movable seat in the RV line of aircraft I don't see how anyone has a crotch belt for the front occupants. Not sure where it attaches with the seat moving forward & back? That being said our design should work because we basically attach forward of the leading edge of the seat "bench" area. Regardless there are MANY different ways to attach to the "bench" area, the key was the hard point on the stick. Even that can be varied by having the hard point facing forward vs. facing aft in my set up and making the actual gust lock grab around the stick and connect to the forward facing hard point opening. One could also make the attachment area "straddle" any items that may be in the way. I drew up a few different concepts to consider (attached). The beauty of the forward facing hard point is that you can hang your fuzzy dice or pine fresh smelling tree from the hole when not in use. :-) Good luck, Robin =================== bsp; - The RV10-List Email Forum - nd much much more: tronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =================== bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - eb Forums! .matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =================== bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - o:p> bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. tronics.com/contribution"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution ===================


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    Time: 10:47:36 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: I signed a petition against aviation user fees and got
    this response I got the same thing, Dave. They just don't get it and they will have another law with unintended consequences. Vote 'em out! Jack Phillips #40610 Wings (ailerons) Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:16 PM Subject: RV10-List: I signed a petition against aviation user fees and got this response <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> Enjoy! Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell Do Not Archive ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: The White House <info@messages.whitehouse.gov> Subject: Petition Response: Why We Need Aviation User Fees Why We Need Aviation User Fees By Dana Hyde, Associate Director for General Government Programs, Office of Management and Budget Thank you for signing the petition "Take Aviation User Fees Off the Table." We appreciate your participation in the We the People platform on WhiteHouse.gov and your concerns about user fees in a challenging economy. In a challenging budget environment, the Obama Administration believes its essential that those who benefit from our world-class aviation system help pay for its ongoing operation. And we want to ensure that everyone is paying their fair share. For example, under current law, a large commercial aircraft flying from Los Angeles to San Francisco pays between twenty-one and thirty-three times the fuel taxes paid by a corporate jet flying the same route and using the same FAA air traffic services. This is why the Administration proposed to establish a new surcharge for air traffic services. The proposed $100 per flight fee would generate an estimated $11 billion over 10 years, reducing the deficit and more equitably sharing the cost of air traffic services across the aviation user community. All piston aircraft, military aircraft, public aircraft, air ambulances, aircraft operating outside of controlled airspace, and Canada-to-Canada flights would be exempted. We appreciate your petition's acknowledgment that there needs to be an increased user contribution to aviation system funding in the current fiscal climate, and we recognize that some would prefer to raise the tax rate on aviation fuel. At the same time, we have concluded that a $100 per flight user fee is an equitable way for those who benefit to bear the cost of this essential service. As we work to get our Nation back on a sustainable fiscal path, the Administration is making tough choices across the Federal budget and asking everyone to do their fair share. We recognize these shared sacrifices are not easy, but together with investments in our economic growth and job creation, they will make us stronger and more competitive for the future. We look forward to working collaboratively with the Congress and the aviation stakeholder community on this issue, and thank you again for your constructive input. Check out this response on We the People. Stay Connected Stay connected to the White House by signing up for periodic email updates from President Obama and other senior administration officials. Facebook Twitter YouTube Flickr iTunes This email was sent to dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com Manage Subscriptions for dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com Sign Up for Updates from the White House Click here to unsubscribe | Privacy Policy Please do not reply to this email. Contact the White House The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW Washington, DC 20500 202-456-1111


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    Time: 10:58:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I signed a petition against aviation user fees and got
    this response
    From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
    On 01/13/2012 01:44 PM, Jack Phillips wrote: > > I got the same thing, Dave. They just don't get it and they will have > another law with unintended consequences. Vote 'em out! The problem is that it doesn't matter who from which party replaces them, they are all cut from the same corrupt cloth... -Dj


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    Time: 11:17:40 AM PST US
    From: Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made custom rear seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous (stainless steel but non magnetic) so as to not interfere with the magnetometer mounted on a nearby shelf. If that someone is out there, please provide details if possible. I'd like to do this too. Thanks Chris Lucas N919AR


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    Time: 12:47:12 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    Chris, I did this. Aircraft spruce can make them up out of SS nonmagnetic. I have structural SS bolts too and my GMU 44 Garmin Magnetometer mountedin close proximity and no problems. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/cableassy.php Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:13 PM Subject: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made custom rear seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous (stainless steel but non magnetic) so as to not interfere with the magnetometer mounted on a nearby shelf. If that someone is out there, please provide details if possible. I'd like to do this too. Thanks Chris Lucas N919AR


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    Time: 01:07:17 PM PST US
    From: Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    Ahh thanks Sean! I did put in an email to Spruce through their website abou t custom cables, waiting for a reply. I can see about a 5-10 degree swing i n the mag heading on my GRT system with and without those cables running by . Did you get the bolts from Spruce too, I have some AN3's from Spruce but the magnet picks them up. Thanks for the reply Carl, I am already commited to my location due to othe r features, I have the mags in the next bay behind the battery. I used the right angle longeron to support the shelf and it also supports my AHRS whi ch is over the battery. This helps keep XYZ on both units easily aligned. On a GRT setup the mag and AHRS have to be separate. -Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Seano <sean@braunandco.com> Sent: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:43:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable =EF=BB Chris, I did this. Aircraft spruce can make them up out of SS nonmagnetic. I have structural SS bolts too and my GMU 44 Garmin Magnetometer mountedin close proximity and no problems. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/cableassy.php Sean ----- Original Message ----- From:Chris To:rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:13 PM Subject: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made custom rear seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous (stainless steel but n on magnetic) so as to not interfere with the magnetometer mounted on a nearby shelf. If that someone is out there, please provide details if possible. I'd like to do this too. Thanks Chris Lucas N919AR href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 01:45:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@gmail.com>
    Highly recommend SS. The ferrous metals passed the hand-held compass test at 18". They showed up during the GRT mag calibration at the upper limit for interference. I will change out hdwr/cables later then recalibrate. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 05/93 PP 10/08 Bldr# 40983SB Started 12/1/2009 N715WD Flying 12/1/2011. Paint 2012. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363651#363651


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    Time: 01:49:21 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    I think these are what I bought, nuts and washers SS too.....long time ago though. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/an3.php ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 2:04 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable Ahh thanks Sean! I did put in an email to Spruce through their website about custom cables, waiting for a reply. I can see about a 5-10 degree swing in the mag heading on my GRT system with and without those cables running by. Did you get the bolts from Spruce too, I have some AN3's from Spruce but the magnet picks them up. Thanks for the reply Carl, I am already commited to my location due to other features, I have the mags in the next bay behind the battery. I used the right angle longeron to support the shelf and it also supports my AHRS which is over the battery. This helps keep XYZ on both units easily aligned. On a GRT setup the mag and AHRS have to be separate. -Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Seano <sean@braunandco.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:43:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable =EF=BB Chris, I did this. Aircraft spruce can make them up out of SS nonmagnetic. I have structural SS bolts too and my GMU 44 Garmin Magnetometer mountedin close proximity and no problems. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/cableassy.php Sean ----- Original Message ----- From:Chris To:rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:13 PM Subject: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made custom rear seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous (stainless steel but non magnetic) so as to not interfere with the magnetometer mounted on a nearby shelf. If that someone is out there, please provide details if possible. I'd like to do this too. Thanks Chris Lucas N919AR href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://foru ms.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www .matronics.com/chttp://www.matronics.com/Nav= -->


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    Time: 01:57:35 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
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    Time: 02:12:32 PM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    Is the SS that is mentioned on that page non-magnetic or do you need to call to request it? -Sean #40303 On 1/13/12 2:43 PM, Seano wrote: > Chris, I did this. Aircraft spruce can make them up out of SS > nonmagnetic. I have structural SS bolts too and my GMU 44 Garmin > Magnetometer mountedin close proximity and no problems. > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/cableassy.php > Sean > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Chris <mailto:toaster73@embarqmail.com> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 12:13 PM > *Subject:* RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable > > I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made > custom rear seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous > (stainless steel but non magnetic) so as to not interfere with the > magnetometer mounted on a nearby shelf. If that someone is out > there, please provide details if possible. I'd like to do this too. > Thanks > Chris Lucas > N919AR > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > * > > > *


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    Time: 04:50:49 PM PST US
    From: David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com>
    Subject: rv10 embroidery file
    Does anyone know of a source to get an embroidery file of an RV-10? David Leikam do not archive


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    Time: 05:17:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: rv10 embroidery file
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    You can send a graphic to places and they'll create one with your paint scheme. Tim On Jan 13, 2012, at 6:48 PM, David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com> wrote: > > Does anyone know of a source to get an embroidery file of an RV-10? > > David Leikam > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:45:47 PM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: rv10 embroidery file
    Try www.beagleaviation.com. They did mine. Do Not archive Rob Kermanj On Jan 13, 2012, at 7:48 PM, David Leikam wrote: > > Does anyone know of a source to get an embroidery file of an RV-10? > > David Leikam > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:53:15 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    Well this is interesting, here is my email to Spruce and then their reply: .......I was wondering if the custom cable assemblies, which are offered in galvanized or stainless steel, are available in a non-ferrous stainless steel with similar strength characteristics? I do not have all the dimensions ready yet but iI will need two cables, 5/32 DIA, about 4 ft long with 2 fork ends and 1/4 inch hole in the fork. Thanks Chris Lucas Chris Sorry but no, these cable are only made of the materials that are sold in the catalog, Galvanized or SS. If you decide to go with the items listed your price would be $54.86 for the gal, and $57.26 for ss 5/32 7x19 48 inches with ms20667 forks. Regards A/S So with the above I am maybe assuming that the stainless Robin and Seano got is actually non-ferrous and the A/S rep is just not understanding my query or doesn't know if it is nonferrous or not. I know my Van's cable is ferrous and the fork ends are not. I must ask did either of you actually put a magnet to it? Sean, as for your question below there is no way to know unless they tell us they put a magnet to it and it did not stick. I guess I need to pursue my request further. If its a 300 series SS it can become magnetized during cold work (making wire, rolling threads). The wire or whatever would need to be annealed afterward to make it non-ferrous. Wayne, I did a test tonight and my GRT mag swung 5 degrees from with the cable in place to without in place. It might correct out it might not, but I am trying for a near flat calibration. I can't believe I am spending so much time on this...I guess I don't want to stop "building". Chris N919AR Flying -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 5:08 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable Is the SS that is mentioned on that page non-magnetic or do you need to call to request it? -Sean #40303


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    Time: 05:54:31 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: rv10 embroidery file
    Or http://www.rvshirtsnmore.com/ do not archive


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    Time: 06:42:11 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    Yup, sure did. Plus waved it around the Magnetometer a bunch like Gustavo Dudamel conducting the LA Philharmonic only with less hair. I got to get off this computer. Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 5:50 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable Well this is interesting, here is my email to Spruce and then their reply: .......I was wondering if the custom cable assemblies, which are offered in galvanized or stainless steel, are available in a non-ferrous stainless steel with similar strength characteristics? I do not have all the dimensions ready yet but iI will need two cables, 5/32 DIA, about 4 ft long with 2 fork ends and 1/4 inch hole in the fork. Thanks Chris Lucas Chris Sorry but no, these cable are only made of the materials that are sold in the catalog, Galvanized or SS. If you decide to go with the items listed your price would be $54.86 for the gal, and $57.26 for ss 5/32 7x19 48 inches with ms20667 forks. Regards A/S So with the above I am maybe assuming that the stainless Robin and Seano got is actually non-ferrous and the A/S rep is just not understanding my query or doesn't know if it is nonferrous or not. I know my Van's cable is ferrous and the fork ends are not. I must ask did either of you actually put a magnet to it? Sean, as for your question below there is no way to know unless they tell us they put a magnet to it and it did not stick. I guess I need to pursue my request further. If its a 300 series SS it can become magnetized during cold work (making wire, rolling threads). The wire or whatever would need to be annealed afterward to make it non-ferrous. Wayne, I did a test tonight and my GRT mag swung 5 degrees from with the cable in place to without in place. It might correct out it might not, but I am trying for a near flat calibration. I can't believe I am spending so much time on this...I guess I don't want to stop "building". Chris N919AR Flying -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 5:08 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable Is the SS that is mentioned on that page non-magnetic or do you need to call to request it? -Sean #40303


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    Time: 07:02:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    From: Bill Watson <mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    I was planning to do this but by the time I had built the shelf, it seemed l ike the cables might physically interfere with the units. So I ended up replicating the front seat hard points for the rear seats. You can see what I did here... http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=2 24&category=2155&log=91924&row=4 Bill Sent from my iPad On Jan 13, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> wrote: > I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made custom rea r seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous (stainless steel but no n magnetic) so as to not interfere with the magnetometer mounted on a nearby shelf. If that someone is out there, please provide details if possible. I' d like to do this too. > Thanks > Chris Lucas > N919AR > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 07:18:03 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10flyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    Ditto for me. I did it because I did not like the idea of a wire coming out of the rear when I could have the seat belts connected directly above. like the front was. Pascal From: Bill Watson Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:58 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable I was planning to do this but by the time I had built the shelf, it seemed like the cables might physically interfere with the units. So I ended up replicating the front seat hard points for the rear seats. You can see what I did here... http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project= 224&category=2155&log=91924&row=4 Bill Sent from my iPad On Jan 13, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> wrote: I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made custom rear seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous (stainless steel but non magnetic) so as to not interfere with the magnetometer mounted on a nearby shelf. If that someone is out there, please provide details if possible. I'd like to do this too. Thanks Chris Lucas N919AR ========= ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========= cs.com ========= matronics.com/contribution =========


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    Time: 08:10:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    I had a buddy order the SS cables from AS&S for ~$120, when he received them they were the same as what came in the Vans kit. Maybe he got the wrong on es? Maybe not?? May want to make sure they are indeed non-Ferrous.... Migh t save you some aggravation and money.... Sent from my iPhone On Jan 13, 2012, at 3:43 PM, "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com> wrote: > Chris, I did this. Aircraft spruce can make them up out of SS nonmagneti c. I have structural SS bolts too and my GMU 44 Garmin Magnetometer mounted in close proximity and no problems. > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/cableassy.php > > Sean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:13 PM > Subject: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable > > I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made custom rea r seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous (stainless steel but no n magnetic) so as to not interfere with the magnetometer mounted on a nearby shelf. If that someone is out there, please provide details if possible. I' d like to do this too. > Thanks > Chris Lucas > N919AR > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 08:22:18 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    Weird....When I bought mine I did the magnet test and the originals were magnetic and the new cables were not.?? I just ordered the same length in stainless. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <toaster73@embarqmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:50 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable > > Well this is interesting, here is my email to Spruce and then their reply: > > .......I was wondering if the custom cable assemblies, which are offered > in galvanized or stainless steel, are available in a non-ferrous stainless > steel with similar strength characteristics? I do not have all the > dimensions ready yet but iI will need two cables, 5/32 DIA, about 4 ft > long with 2 fork ends and 1/4 inch hole in the fork. > Thanks > Chris Lucas > > Chris > > Sorry but no, these cable are only made of the materials that are sold > in the catalog, Galvanized or SS. If you decide to go with the items > listed your price would be $54.86 for the gal, and $57.26 for ss > 5/32 7x19 48 inches with ms20667 forks. > > > Regards > A/S > > So with the above I am maybe assuming that the stainless Robin and Seano > got is actually non-ferrous and the A/S rep is just not understanding my > query or doesn't know if it is nonferrous or not. I know my Van's cable is > ferrous and the fork ends are not. > I must ask did either of you actually put a magnet to it? > > Sean, > as for your question below there is no way to know unless they tell us > they put a magnet to it and it did not stick. I guess I need to pursue my > request further. If its a 300 series SS it can become magnetized during > cold work (making wire, rolling threads). The wire or whatever would need > to be annealed afterward to make it non-ferrous. > > Wayne, > I did a test tonight and my GRT mag swung 5 degrees from with the cable in > place to without in place. It might correct out it might not, but I am > trying for a near flat calibration. > > I can't believe I am spending so much time on this...I guess I don't want > to stop "building". > > Chris > N919AR Flying > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 5:08 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable > > > Is the SS that is mentioned on that page non-magnetic or do you need to > call to request it? > > -Sean #40303 > > >


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    Time: 08:59:34 PM PST US
    From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable
    I put the same cables in that Sean did. -I have the GRT AHRS on a shelf i n the back with the Crossbow AHRS for the Chelton right next to it. -=0AT he magnetometer for GRT in the wing. -I have had some issues with the Cro ssbow not booting up correctly from time to time and I just purchased the A HRS mount that Van's sells to relocate the GRT AHRS. -=0AFrom what I have read the GRT AHRS (with no magnetometer in it) is not effected by magnetic fields like the Crossbow with the magnetometer built in. -=0AI will let you know what I find.-=0A-=0AScott Schmidt=0Ascottmschmidt@yahoo.com=0A =0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Pascal <rv10flyer@veri zon.net>=0A>To: rv10-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:14 PM=0A>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cabl e=0A> =0A>=0A>Ditto for me. I did it because I did not like the idea of a w ire coming out =0Aof the rear when I could have the seat belts connected di rectly above. like the =0Afront was. =0A>Pascal-=0A>From: Bill Watson =0A >Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:58 PM=0A>To: rv10-list@matronics.com =0A> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt =0Acable=0A>- I was planning to do this but by the time I had built the shelf, it seemed =0Alike the cables might physically interfere with the units.=0A>-=0A>So I ended up replicating the front seat hard points for the rear seats. =0AY ou can see what I did here...=0A>http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log. php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=2155&log=91924&row=4=0A >-=0A>Bill=0A>=0A>Sent from my iPad=0A>=0A>On Jan 13, 2012, at 2:13 PM, C hris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> =0Awrote:=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>>I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made custom rear seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous (stainless steel but non magnetic) so as to not interfere with the magnetometer mounted on a nearby shelf. If t hat someone is out there, please provide details if possible. I'd like to do this too.=0A>>Thanks=0A>>Chris Lucas=0A>>N919AR=0A>>====== =====0A://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List=0A===== ===== cs.com ========== matronics.com/contrib ution=0A========== =0A>href="http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List=0Ahref ="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0Ahref="http ========= =0A>=0A>


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    Time: 09:35:10 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: plane canopies
    Anybody in or near Chesterfield Michigan that can check on Dave at Plane Canopies for me? Failed promises and now he won't return my calls. Linn




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