---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/14/12: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:02 AM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (bill.peyton) 2. 06:14 AM - Overhead seatbelt holders - was Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Bill Watson) 3. 06:34 AM - Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (kevino) 4. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Jack Phillips) 5. 08:43 AM - Re: rv10 embroidery file (Paul Bowmar) 6. 08:50 AM - Re: Overhead seatbelt holders - was Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable (Seano) 7. 09:01 AM - LightSquared (Robin Marks) 8. 10:03 AM - Re: rv10 embroidery file (David Leikam) 9. 10:53 AM - Re: rv10 embroidery file (Lyle Peterson) 10. 12:42 PM - Engine sag () 11. 01:20 PM - Re: Engine sag (Kelly McMullen) 12. 02:10 PM - Re: Engine sag (Phil Perry) 13. 02:43 PM - Re: Engine sag (Seano) 14. 02:44 PM - Re: Engine sag () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:14 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable From: "bill.peyton" I was at West Marine today and noticed they sell SS cable and will swedge the ends on for you. It is listed on thier website as SS. I am going to check it out next time I am in there and if it is non ferrous I am going to just have it made by them with my fittings. Bill -------- Bill Peyton Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363720#363720 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:24 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Overhead seatbelt holders - was Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable From: Bill Watson Can anyone suggest a design solution for keeping the overhead belts out of t he way? Haven't visited this issue recently... I know a number of people have fabric ated various things. I need to do something for my front and rear belts. Bill "too much sighing, need to go flying" Watson Sent from my iPad On Jan 13, 2012, at 10:14 PM, "Pascal" wrote: > Ditto for me. I did it because I did not like the idea of a wire coming ou t of the rear when I could have the seat belts connected directly above. lik e the front was. > Pascal > > From: Bill Watson > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:58 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable > > I was planning to do this but by the time I had built the shelf, it seemed like the cables might physically interfere with the units. > > So I ended up replicating the front seat hard points for the rear seats. Y ou can see what I did here... > http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project= 224&category=2155&log=91924&row=4 > > Bill > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 13, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Chris wrote: > >> I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made custom re ar seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous (stainless steel but n on magnetic) so as to not interfere with the magnetometer mounted on a nearb y shelf. If that someone is out there, please provide details if possible. I 'd like to do this too. >> Thanks >> Chris Lucas >> N919AR >> >> >> >> ========= >> ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========= >> cs.com >> ========= >> matronics.com/contribution >> ========= >> > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:04 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable From: "kevino" I ordered ss from spruce and yes they were still magnetic. However hasn't bothered my afs 4500's Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363725#363725 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:06 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable If it is Stainless Steel it is still ferrous (ferrous just means containing iron). It may be non-magnetic, but it is still ferrous. Just to play it safe, take a magnet and test it. Stainless Steel comes in several different alloys, and not all are non-magnetic. For example, most stainless steel knives (including some tableware) are 400 series stainless, which is highly magnetic. Most stainless forks and spoons are 300 series, which is non-magnetic (or maybe just slightly magnetic). I just checked some stainless steel cable I got from Aircraft Spruce and it is somewhat magnetic, but nowhere nearly as strong as galvanized cable. Jack Phillips # 40610 Wings Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:59 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable I was at West Marine today and noticed they sell SS cable and will swedge the ends on for you. It is listed on thier website as SS. I am going to check it out next time I am in there and if it is non ferrous I am going to just have it made by them with my fittings. Bill -------- Bill Peyton Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363720#363720 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:51 AM PST US From: Paul Bowmar Subject: Re: RV10-List: rv10 embroidery file These people do a great job of embroidery from YOUR photograph. They display at Oshkosh and I have gotten to know them over the years. http://www.embroideryfromphotos.com/ Attached is a photo of a jacket they did of my RV-4. Tell Dominique I say HI. On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:48 PM, David Leikam wrote: > > Does anyone know of a source to get an embroidery file of an RV-10? > > David Leikam > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:21 AM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead seatbelt holders - was Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable I bought these then powdercoated black. http://www.planeinnovations.com/ Work great... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Watson To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:12 AM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead seatbelt holders - was Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable Can anyone suggest a design solution for keeping the overhead belts out of the way? Haven't visited this issue recently... I know a number of people have fabricated various things. I need to do something for my front and rear belts. Bill "too much sighing, need to go flying" Watson Sent from my iPad On Jan 13, 2012, at 10:14 PM, "Pascal" wrote: Ditto for me. I did it because I did not like the idea of a wire coming out of the rear when I could have the seat belts connected directly above. like the front was. Pascal From: Bill Watson Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:58 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Magnetometer Locations and seatbelt cable I was planning to do this but by the time I had built the shelf, it seemed like the cables might physically interfere with the units. So I ended up replicating the front seat hard points for the rear seats. You can see what I did here... http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project= 224&category=2155&log=91924&row=4 Bill Sent from my iPad On Jan 13, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Chris wrote: I was wondering if someone on this list mentioned they had made custom rear seat seatbelt anchor cables which were non-ferrous (stainless steel but non magnetic) so as to not interfere with the magnetometer mounted on a nearby shelf. If that someone is out there, please provide details if possible. I'd like to do this too. Thanks Chris Lucas N919AR ========= ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========= cs.com ========= matronics.com/contribution ========= href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:49 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RV10-List: LightSquared Looks like good news for us GPS users... Snip<< The saga of LightSquared may be coming to its final turn, as no fewe r than nine federal agencies have unanimously agreed that its LTE network i nterferes with GPS in such a way that it can't be fixed.>> LightSquared LTE network interferes with GPS, says US government committee http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/13/2706232/lightsquared-lte-network-interfer es-gps-government-committee Robin ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: rv10 embroidery file From: David Leikam Thanks for the info everyone. David Leikam RV10 Flying On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Paul Bowmar wrote: > These people do a great job of embroidery from YOUR photograph. They display at Oshkosh and I have gotten to know them over the years. http://www.embroideryfromphotos.com/ Attached is a photo of a jacket they did of my RV-4. Tell Dominique I say HI. > > On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:48 PM, David Leikam wrote: > >> >> Does anyone know of a source to get an embroidery file of an RV-10? >> >> David Leikam >> >> >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <100_2195.jpeg> ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:03 AM PST US From: Lyle Peterson Subject: Re: RV10-List: rv10 embroidery file Another source for custom embroidery is http://allstarwarbirds.com/ On 1/14/2012 11:59 AM, David Leikam wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: David Leikam > > Thanks for the info everyone. > > David Leikam > RV10 > Flying > > > On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Paul Bowmar wrote: > >> These people do a great job of embroidery from YOUR photograph. They display at Oshkosh and I have gotten to know them over the years. http://www.embroideryfromphotos.com/ Attached is a photo of a jacket they did of my RV-4. Tell Dominique I say HI. >> >> On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:48 PM, David Leikam wrote: >> >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: David Leikam >>> >>> Does anyone know of a source to get an embroidery file of an RV-10? >>> >>> David Leikam >>> >>> >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> <100_2195.jpeg> > > -- Lyle Peterson, EAA, PGR, AOPA, AAE, MBS, AMA, MSCE, EAA Chapter 237 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:42:28 PM PST US From: Subject: RV10-List: Engine sag Just starting my second "annual" inspection. I have about 3/16" engine sag (240 hours). At initial build I did not allow for the sagging--just built it so the spinner and cowl matched perfectly. I kinda remember the discussions here about correcting the sag but can't find much in the search engine under "engine sag". So do I correct it by shimming (with washers) the lower engine mount to firewall connections? And if that is the correct method how many washers and what thickness would "fix" the 3/16 sag? Thanks, Jay Rowe 40301 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:20:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine sag From: Kelly McMullen I am not there yet on my build. On my Mooney with IO-360 Lyc, there are washers on each side of the engine shock mounts. Moving 1 washer from the front of the top mount to the rear of the mount would raise the front of the engine about the right amount. You probably could shim in front of the bottom mounts, but on my Mooney those are twice as hard to get to and work on as the top mounts. On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:38 PM, wrote: > > Just starting my second "annual" inspection. I have about 3/16" engine > sag (240 hours). At initial build I did not allow for the sagging--just > built it so the spinner and cowl matched perfectly. I kinda remember the > discussions here about correcting the sag but can't find much in the search > engine under "engine sag". So do I correct it by shimming (with washers) > the lower engine mount to firewall connections? And if that is the correct > method how many washers and what thickness would "fix" the 3/16 sag? > Thanks, Jay Rowe 40301 > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:10:56 PM PST US From: Phil Perry Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine sag What mounts did you use? The Lord mounts? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2012, at 2:38 PM, wrote: > > Just starting my second "annual" inspection. I have about 3/16" engine sag (240 hours). At initial build I did not allow for the sagging--just built it so the spinner and cowl matched perfectly. I kinda remember the discussions here about correcting the sag but can't find much in the search engine under "engine sag". So do I correct it by shimming (with washers) the lower engine mount to firewall connections? And if that is the correct method how many washers and what thickness would "fix" the 3/16 sag? Thanks, Jay Rowe 40301 > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:46 PM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine sag Speaking of mounts... I don't want to hijack the thread so I will contribute first. I originally set my cowling to accept 1/8" sag over time. My engine has 150 hours on it and my engine is sagged down flush to the spinner. It might sag more over time but for now it's working out. I have the IO-540-N1A5 engine which has a heavier crank and 5th and 6th dampers. It weighs in at 428lbs vs the 412lb D4A5 engine. I remember someone else asking me about this engine choice and wanted to share my experience. When I shopped around for engine mounts I couldn't find any j3804-30's which are made for the N1A5. The engine builder and Lord both recommended the -28's which are used on the D4A5's. I bought these especially since Lord doesn't make the -30's anymore. After flying in my plane and flying other tens I could tell my engine had a different lower vibration than the other tens. I didn't like it being different so I went out to Boise and had my prop dynamically balanced at Precision Prop. The vibration didn't change much. So now it is annual time on my plane and I wanted to get to the bottom of it. I called Lord again and explaned the scenario and history. This time I spoke to an engineer who talked me into buying two J-6545-1 mounts and interchanging some sandwich parts with the J3804-28's. Also swapping out two of the gel spacers for two solid spacers and mounting them diagonally from each other. It all sounds like voodoo to me but the guy sounded like he new what he was saying. I'll let you know how it comes out if anyone cares or if anyone has this same engine. On another note I just found out the easiest way to test your new 406 ELT....I don't recommend this BTW! I put the remote faceplate on backwards so the test/reset button was actually the ELT "on" button. Luckily I registered the ELT online yesterday. Got a call from the Air Force about 5 minutes after testing the ELT. OOOOOOPS! I feel really stupid. It would save the trouble of making the test circuit but not recommened. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Perry" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:05 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine sag > > What mounts did you use? The Lord mounts? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 14, 2012, at 2:38 PM, wrote: > >> >> Just starting my second "annual" inspection. I have about 3/16" engine >> sag (240 hours). At initial build I did not allow for the sagging--just >> built it so the spinner and cowl matched perfectly. I kinda remember the >> discussions here about correcting the sag but can't find much in the >> search engine under "engine sag". So do I correct it by shimming (with >> washers) the lower engine mount to firewall connections? And if that is >> the correct method how many washers and what thickness would "fix" the >> 3/16 sag? Thanks, Jay Rowe 40301 >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:12 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine sag Phil: I used the Van's supplied mounts which I believe are made by "Barry Contols". Jay ---- Phil Perry wrote: > > What mounts did you use? The Lord mounts? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 14, 2012, at 2:38 PM, wrote: > > > > > Just starting my second "annual" inspection. I have about 3/16" engine sag (240 hours). At initial build I did not allow for the sagging--just built it so the spinner and cowl matched perfectly. I kinda remember the discussions here about correcting the sag but can't find much in the search engine under "engine sag". So do I correct it by shimming (with washers) the lower engine mount to firewall connections? And if that is the correct method how many washers and what thickness would "fix" the 3/16 sag? Thanks, Jay Rowe 40301 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.