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1. 05:27 AM - Re: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (Jesse Saint)
2. 07:06 AM - Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (tsts4)
3. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (Pascal)
4. 08:04 AM - Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (Kellym)
5. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (Pascal)
6. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (Kelly McMullen)
7. 09:00 AM - Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (tsts4)
8. 09:08 AM - Re: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (BPA)
9. 09:16 AM - Re: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (Kelly McMullen)
10. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (BPA)
11. 09:28 AM - Re: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (Rhonda Bewley)
12. 10:15 AM - Re: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? (Seano)
13. 09:31 PM - Any RV-10's in Hawaii Please? (Patrick Pulis)
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
I don't think Mattituck is doing it either. I think Lycoming pulled it from them
as well.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:48 PM, woxofswa wrote:
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> I spoke with them recently about an engine. It appears that neither Aerosport
nor Barrett's build kit engines anymore. From what I gather, Lycoming has raised
the kit prices to the point that there is no competitive margin for a house
shop.
> Aerosport will do a buildup of a 540 core, they just couldn't find one when I
was looking. Barrett did find me one and I went with them.
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
Yep Mattituck stopped building new TMX 540s last Spring due to the "new" business
relationship that Lycoming developed. I had a discussion with Mahlon from
Mattituck about this over on VAF. My personal opinion is this move by Lycoming
was purely an attempt to eliminate competition for their Thunderbolt engines.
YMMV....
In the end, a BPE rebuilt be came the best option for me.
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Todd Stovall
728TT (reserved)
RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse
www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
You will be so much happier to have a BPA rebuilt than a new engine. You'll
need to fly 40 versus 25 hours, but having that engine will run so much more
smoothly than a new Lycoming.
P
-----Original Message-----
From: tsts4
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:03 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s?
Yep Mattituck stopped building new TMX 540s last Spring due to the "new"
business relationship that Lycoming developed. I had a discussion with
Mahlon from Mattituck about this over on VAF. My personal opinion is this
move by Lycoming was purely an attempt to eliminate competition for their
Thunderbolt engines. YMMV....
In the end, a BPE rebuilt be came the best option for me.
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Todd Stovall
728TT (reserved)
RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse
www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
rv10flyer(at)verizon.net wrote:
> You will be so much happier to have a BPA rebuilt than a new engine. You'll
> need to fly 40 versus 25 hours, but having that engine will run so much more
> smoothly than a new Lycoming.
> P
> --
Whether the engine is new or overhauled has no bearing on the hours for Phase I
testing. Only whether it is a certified configuration of engine and prop or not
is what determines that.
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Kelly McMullen
A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor # 5286
KCHD
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
You are correct, if one uses Lycoming parts it would be certified. I was
thinking about Eci cylinders as applied to me.
Thank you for that clarification.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kellym
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:02 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s?
rv10flyer(at)verizon.net wrote:
> You will be so much happier to have a BPA rebuilt than a new engine.
> You'll
> need to fly 40 versus 25 hours, but having that engine will run so much
> more
> smoothly than a new Lycoming.
> P
> --
Whether the engine is new or overhauled has no bearing on the hours for
Phase I testing. Only whether it is a certified configuration of engine and
prop or not is what determines that.
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Kelly McMullen
A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor # 5286
KCHD
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
ECI cylinders, if PMA'd would not change that situation. More likely stuff
like electronic ignition or non-certified prop will cause the extra time.
You can have a certified engine that has 99.9% PMA parts with only the sump
with the data plate being OEM.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote:
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> You are correct, if one uses Lycoming parts it would be certified. I was
> thinking about Eci cylinders as applied to me.
> Thank you for that clarification.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kellym
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:02 AM
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> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s?
>
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>
> rv10flyer(at)verizon.net wrote:
>
>> You will be so much happier to have a BPA rebuilt than a new engine.
>> You'll
>> need to fly 40 versus 25 hours, but having that engine will run so much
>> more
>> smoothly than a new Lycoming.
>> P
>> --
>>
>
> Whether the engine is new or overhauled has no bearing on the hours for
> Phase I testing. Only whether it is a certified configuration of engine and
> prop or not is what determines that.
>
> --------
> Kelly McMullen
> A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor # 5286
> KCHD
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
In my case I'll get the 40 hr Phase I due to the addition of an AFP FI system which
will make it a experimental BPE IO-540-C4B5 with a BPE serial number instead
of a Lycoming IO-540.
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Todd Stovall
728TT (reserved)
RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse
www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
Technically Todd, it's an IO-540X. The engine is rated at 2700 max
continuous rpm.
Allen B.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tsts4
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s?
In my case I'll get the 40 hr Phase I due to the addition of an AFP FI
system which will make it a experimental BPE IO-540-C4B5 with a BPE
serial number instead of a Lycoming IO-540.
--------
Todd Stovall
728TT (reserved)
RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse
www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
Which raises the interesting question of why Lycoming issued different
model numbers for the 250 hp Aztec C4B5 vs the 260 hp Comanche D4A5,
which besides governor setting are allegedly identical. I suppose the
feds against aviation made them do it.
On 1/20/2012 10:05 AM, BPA wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "BPA"<BPA@bpaengines.com>
>
> Technically Todd, it's an IO-540X. The engine is rated at 2700 max
> continuous rpm.
>
> Allen B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tsts4
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:58 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s?
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "tsts4"<tsts4@verizon.net>
>
> In my case I'll get the 40 hr Phase I due to the addition of an AFP FI
> system which will make it a experimental BPE IO-540-C4B5 with a BPE
> serial number instead of a Lycoming IO-540.
>
> --------
> Todd Stovall
> 728TT (reserved)
> RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse
> www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364368#364368
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
Most likely Kelly, it is airframe related and requested by the
manufacturer. You are correct though, they are identical engines. Except
for the OEM data plate.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling
(I)O-540s?
Which raises the interesting question of why Lycoming issued different
model numbers for the 250 hp Aztec C4B5 vs the 260 hp Comanche D4A5,
which besides governor setting are allegedly identical. I suppose the
feds against aviation made them do it.
On 1/20/2012 10:05 AM, BPA wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "BPA"<BPA@bpaengines.com>
>
> Technically Todd, it's an IO-540X. The engine is rated at 2700 max
> continuous rpm.
>
> Allen B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tsts4
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:58 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s?
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "tsts4"<tsts4@verizon.net>
>
> In my case I'll get the 40 hr Phase I due to the addition of an AFP FI
> system which will make it a experimental BPE IO-540-C4B5 with a BPE
> serial number instead of a Lycoming IO-540.
>
> --------
> Todd Stovall
> 728TT (reserved)
> RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse
> www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364368#364368
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
It's possible the aircraft manufacturer wanted the hp restriction due to
airframe issues. Rather than design and build a completely different
engine, it was easier to restrict an engine already in production.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling
(I)O-540s?
Which raises the interesting question of why Lycoming issued different
model numbers for the 250 hp Aztec C4B5 vs the 260 hp Comanche D4A5,
which besides governor setting are allegedly identical. I suppose the
feds against aviation made them do it.
On 1/20/2012 10:05 AM, BPA wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "BPA"<BPA@bpaengines.com>
>
> Technically Todd, it's an IO-540X. The engine is rated at 2700 max
> continuous rpm.
>
> Allen B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tsts4
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:58 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s?
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "tsts4"<tsts4@verizon.net>
>
> In my case I'll get the 40 hr Phase I due to the addition of an AFP FI
> system which will make it a experimental BPE IO-540-C4B5 with a BPE
> serial number instead of a Lycoming IO-540.
>
> --------
> Todd Stovall
> 728TT (reserved)
> RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse
> www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364368#364368
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aero Sport Power no longer selling (I)O-540s? |
Correct...I have an aerosport rebuilt, Hartzell combo with a 25 hr phase 1
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:02, "Kellym" <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
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> rv10flyer(at)verizon.net wrote:
>> You will be so much happier to have a BPA rebuilt than a new engine. You'll
>> need to fly 40 versus 25 hours, but having that engine will run so much more
>> smoothly than a new Lycoming.
>> P
>> --
>
> Whether the engine is new or overhauled has no bearing on the hours for Phase
I testing. Only whether it is a certified configuration of engine and prop or
not is what determines that.
>
> --------
> Kelly McMullen
> A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor # 5286
> KCHD
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Any RV-10's in Hawaii Please? |
I will be travelling to Hawaii during March (23 - 29) and would love to mee
t up with any RV-10 flyers there.=0A-=0AI'd appreciate hearing from any R
V-10 builders or owners who might be interested in catching up with me whil
st I'm there.- Please contact me off line.=0A-=0AWarm regards from down
under.=0A-=0APatrick Pulis=0AAdelaide, South Australia
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