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1. 12:43 PM - RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Tim Olson)
2. 02:40 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Bob Leffler)
3. 05:09 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Bob Turner)
4. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Pascal)
5. 05:34 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Robin Marks)
6. 06:00 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (DLM)
7. 06:26 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Robin Marks)
8. 07:33 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (rv10flyer)
9. 08:05 PM - First flight video N541RV (bob-tcw)
10. 08:44 PM - Re: First flight video N541RV (Sean S. Blair)
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| Subject: | RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
I got my insurance renewal quote today, after over 800 hours
of flight time in my RV-10, and an instrument rating.
It's great to see that competition is alive in the insurance
market again. From the sounds of it, AIG is back in, going
after the RV pilots with high time in make/model, WITH an
instrument rating, and courting them with low rates. My
Global quote stayed the same this year at about $2710.
My AIG quote ran $2248. I thought it was a no-brainer, even
though in some ways Global covers a bit more things than
AIG....I'd have to ditch Global for AIG. But, Jenny Estes
at NationAir helped and took it one step further and asked
Global if they could get close to that rate...and Global
came back with $2275. So, they saved me as a customer
this year again.
This means that in 6 years, and 800+ hours, my rate
has now dropped from $3440 or so, to $2275....keeping
the hull value the same every year.
Hope you all are seeing similar drops. I guess the
moral is, pay the piper and build time...and definitely
get that instrument rating, and over time you
should see your flying pay back a little in terms of
rates.
Oh, BTW....I was wondering how an RV-10 compared to
an expensive sports car, such as a Lamborghini Gallardo.
I figured some of those cars have high "hull values" so
they may make a good comparison to RV-10 insurance.
Turns out that we make out pretty well. One forum I
trolled to find quotes said that The Lamborghini would
cost about $2300/mo. So, we look pretty good compared
to that market.
Tim
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| Subject: | RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
I just received the following quote through Britt/Paulk ($2,088), which was
significantly less than Chartis ($3,500). I'm a 325 hr, IFR rated SEL,
minimal HP and RV-10 time.
. $160,000 hull value on 2011 Vans RV 10
. Deductibles: $50 not in motion; $250 in motion
. Liability: $1 million/occurrence with sublimit of $100,000 per
passenger
. Med pay: $5,000 per passenger including crew
. Britt/Paulk offers premium financing for your convenience
. Total annual premium for all risk ground and flight coverage
$2088
. This would be a named pilot only policy.
. It appears that they would approve you as pilot and would require
you to obtain 2 hours of solo flight in this make and model aircraft prior
to carrying passengers.
My agent is:
Candy Eichenberger
Avinsure Agency, Inc.
PO Box 1600, Powell, OH 43065
Phone: 7408814188
Fax: 7408814409
Toll free: 888 GR8-2-FLY
Email: ceichenberger@avinsureagency.com
www.avinsureagency.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:40 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
I got my insurance renewal quote today, after over 800 hours of flight time
in my RV-10, and an instrument rating.
It's great to see that competition is alive in the insurance market again.
>From the sounds of it, AIG is back in, going after the RV pilots with high
time in make/model, WITH an instrument rating, and courting them with low
rates. My Global quote stayed the same this year at about $2710.
My AIG quote ran $2248. I thought it was a no-brainer, even though in some
ways Global covers a bit more things than AIG....I'd have to ditch Global
for AIG. But, Jenny Estes at NationAir helped and took it one step further
and asked Global if they could get close to that rate...and Global came back
with $2275. So, they saved me as a customer this year again.
This means that in 6 years, and 800+ hours, my rate has now dropped from
$3440 or so, to $2275....keeping the hull value the same every year.
Hope you all are seeing similar drops. I guess the moral is, pay the piper
and build time...and definitely get that instrument rating, and over time
you should see your flying pay back a little in terms of rates.
Oh, BTW....I was wondering how an RV-10 compared to an expensive sports car,
such as a Lamborghini Gallardo.
I figured some of those cars have high "hull values" so they may make a good
comparison to RV-10 insurance.
Turns out that we make out pretty well. One forum I trolled to find quotes
said that The Lamborghini would cost about $2300/mo. So, we look pretty
good compared to that market.
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
Bob,
That is a great price. As best I can tell, Britt/Paulk is an "agency for agencies".
Is that correct? Do you know the actual company (s) underwriting the policy?
Last summer the best I could do for a similar policy was $3800, and I have 2000+
TT, 1000+ HP time, instrument, commercial, cfii, but at the time only 20 hrs
of RV-10 time. Hopefully next year will be better!
Bob
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364906#364906
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
I got a quote from Skysmith. I am a low (fix wing) time pilot and
Britt/Paulk came as the lowest for the same coverage.
I was quite happy with Skysmith.
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
Bob,
That is a great price. As best I can tell, Britt/Paulk is an "agency for
agencies". Is that correct? Do you know the actual company (s) underwriting
the policy?
Last summer the best I could do for a similar policy was $3800, and I have
2000+ TT, 1000+ HP time, instrument, commercial, cfii, but at the time only
20 hrs of RV-10 time. Hopefully next year will be better!
Bob
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364906#364906
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| Subject: | RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
Not sure that Lamborghini Gallardo insurance quote is correct. I have a few friends
with Ferrari's and they pay between $2-$3,000/ year for insuring their cars.
They are garaged & low annual mileage cars not primary use cars so that is
also a factor.
Speaking of car insurance we pay $1,700/year for 4 cars. Just added our 18 year
old daughter to the policy. Add $2,000... This email thread solved it, I am putting
my foot down, she is definitely not getting a Lamborghini now!
Robin
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:40 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
I got my insurance renewal quote today, after over 800 hours of flight time in
my RV-10, and an instrument rating.
It's great to see that competition is alive in the insurance market again. From
the sounds of it, AIG is back in, going after the RV pilots with high time in
make/model, WITH an instrument rating, and courting them with low rates. My
Global quote stayed the same this year at about $2710.
My AIG quote ran $2248. I thought it was a no-brainer, even though in some ways
Global covers a bit more things than AIG....I'd have to ditch Global for AIG.
But, Jenny Estes at NationAir helped and took it one step further and asked
Global if they could get close to that rate...and Global came back with $2275.
So, they saved me as a customer this year again.
This means that in 6 years, and 800+ hours, my rate has now dropped from $3440
or so, to $2275....keeping the hull value the same every year.
Hope you all are seeing similar drops. I guess the moral is, pay the piper and
build time...and definitely get that instrument rating, and over time you should
see your flying pay back a little in terms of rates.
Oh, BTW....I was wondering how an RV-10 compared to an expensive sports car, such
as a Lamborghini Gallardo.
I figured some of those cars have high "hull values" so they may make a good comparison
to RV-10 insurance.
Turns out that we make out pretty well. One forum I trolled to find quotes said
that The Lamborghini would cost about $2300/mo. So, we look pretty good compared
to that market.
Tim
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| Subject: | RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
I don't know about your state but since we have more cars than drivers I can
assign the 1994 Altima to him and not insure him for the 2010 Honda and Kia
or the 1988 GMC Vandura. It will save a bundle.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
Not sure that Lamborghini Gallardo insurance quote is correct. I have a few
friends with Ferrari's and they pay between $2-$3,000/ year for insuring
their cars. They are garaged & low annual mileage cars not primary use cars
so that is also a factor.
Speaking of car insurance we pay $1,700/year for 4 cars. Just added our 18
year old daughter to the policy. Add $2,000... This email thread solved it,
I am putting my foot down, she is definitely not getting a Lamborghini now!
Robin
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:40 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
I got my insurance renewal quote today, after over 800 hours of flight time
in my RV-10, and an instrument rating.
It's great to see that competition is alive in the insurance market again.
>From the sounds of it, AIG is back in, going after the RV pilots with high
time in make/model, WITH an instrument rating, and courting them with low
rates. My Global quote stayed the same this year at about $2710.
My AIG quote ran $2248. I thought it was a no-brainer, even though in some
ways Global covers a bit more things than AIG....I'd have to ditch Global
for AIG. But, Jenny Estes at NationAir helped and took it one step further
and asked Global if they could get close to that rate...and Global came back
with $2275. So, they saved me as a customer this year again.
This means that in 6 years, and 800+ hours, my rate has now dropped from
$3440 or so, to $2275....keeping the hull value the same every year.
Hope you all are seeing similar drops. I guess the moral is, pay the piper
and build time...and definitely get that instrument rating, and over time
you should see your flying pay back a little in terms of rates.
Oh, BTW....I was wondering how an RV-10 compared to an expensive sports car,
such as a Lamborghini Gallardo.
I figured some of those cars have high "hull values" so they may make a good
comparison to RV-10 insurance.
Turns out that we make out pretty well. One forum I trolled to find quotes
said that The Lamborghini would cost about $2300/mo. So, we look pretty
good compared to that market.
Tim
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| Subject: | RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
I worked it up/down, left/right it all came to about the same number to add her
to our insurance $2K. If it were her own policy it would was $3,500. It's painful
but I understand a teen can cause a lot of damage regardless of the car she
is driving.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
I don't know about your state but since we have more cars than drivers I can assign
the 1994 Altima to him and not insure him for the 2010 Honda and Kia or the
1988 GMC Vandura. It will save a bundle.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
Not sure that Lamborghini Gallardo insurance quote is correct. I have a few friends
with Ferrari's and they pay between $2-$3,000/ year for insuring their cars.
They are garaged & low annual mileage cars not primary use cars so that is
also a factor.
Speaking of car insurance we pay $1,700/year for 4 cars. Just added our 18 year
old daughter to the policy. Add $2,000... This email thread solved it, I am putting
my foot down, she is definitely not getting a Lamborghini now!
Robin
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:40 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
I got my insurance renewal quote today, after over 800 hours of flight time in
my RV-10, and an instrument rating.
It's great to see that competition is alive in the insurance market again.
>From the sounds of it, AIG is back in, going after the RV pilots with
>high
time in make/model, WITH an instrument rating, and courting them with low rates.
My Global quote stayed the same this year at about $2710.
My AIG quote ran $2248. I thought it was a no-brainer, even though in some ways
Global covers a bit more things than AIG....I'd have to ditch Global for AIG.
But, Jenny Estes at NationAir helped and took it one step further and asked
Global if they could get close to that rate...and Global came back with $2275.
So, they saved me as a customer this year again.
This means that in 6 years, and 800+ hours, my rate has now dropped from
$3440 or so, to $2275....keeping the hull value the same every year.
Hope you all are seeing similar drops. I guess the moral is, pay the piper and
build time...and definitely get that instrument rating, and over time you should
see your flying pay back a little in terms of rates.
Oh, BTW....I was wondering how an RV-10 compared to an expensive sports car, such
as a Lamborghini Gallardo.
I figured some of those cars have high "hull values" so they may make a good comparison
to RV-10 insurance.
Turns out that we make out pretty well. One forum I trolled to find quotes said
that The Lamborghini would cost about $2300/mo. So, we look pretty good compared
to that market.
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
Britt Paulk- Jeff Rhodes, CS&A Insurance- Taylorsville GA. RV driver too. $2138,
135K, vfr, low timer 200 hrs. I am very happy with them.
--------
Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08
40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD 362nd Flying. TT= 29 hrs.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364919#364919
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| Subject: | First flight video N541RV |
Here=99s a really lame attempt at editing some of the video
together from my first flight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9SsXji6Fs
Bob Newman
40176 ...flying
N541RV
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| Subject: | Re: First flight video N541RV |
Bob,
Enjoyed the video and looks like a great plane.=C2- Congrats!
Sean Blair
RV7
COS
----- Original Message -----
From: "bob-tcw" <rnewman@tcwtech.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:02:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First flight video N541RV
Here=99s a really lame attempt at editing some of the video together
from my first flight.=C2-
=C2-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9SsXji6Fs
=C2-
=C2-
Bob Newman
40176=C2- ...flying
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