---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/26/12: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:43 PM - RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Tim Olson) 2. 02:40 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Bob Leffler) 3. 05:09 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Bob Turner) 4. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Pascal) 5. 05:34 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Robin Marks) 6. 06:00 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (DLM) 7. 06:26 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Robin Marks) 8. 07:33 PM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (rv10flyer) 9. 08:05 PM - First flight video N541RV (bob-tcw) 10. 08:44 PM - Re: First flight video N541RV (Sean S. Blair) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:57 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo I got my insurance renewal quote today, after over 800 hours of flight time in my RV-10, and an instrument rating. It's great to see that competition is alive in the insurance market again. From the sounds of it, AIG is back in, going after the RV pilots with high time in make/model, WITH an instrument rating, and courting them with low rates. My Global quote stayed the same this year at about $2710. My AIG quote ran $2248. I thought it was a no-brainer, even though in some ways Global covers a bit more things than AIG....I'd have to ditch Global for AIG. But, Jenny Estes at NationAir helped and took it one step further and asked Global if they could get close to that rate...and Global came back with $2275. So, they saved me as a customer this year again. This means that in 6 years, and 800+ hours, my rate has now dropped from $3440 or so, to $2275....keeping the hull value the same every year. Hope you all are seeing similar drops. I guess the moral is, pay the piper and build time...and definitely get that instrument rating, and over time you should see your flying pay back a little in terms of rates. Oh, BTW....I was wondering how an RV-10 compared to an expensive sports car, such as a Lamborghini Gallardo. I figured some of those cars have high "hull values" so they may make a good comparison to RV-10 insurance. Turns out that we make out pretty well. One forum I trolled to find quotes said that The Lamborghini would cost about $2300/mo. So, we look pretty good compared to that market. Tim ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:34 PM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo I just received the following quote through Britt/Paulk ($2,088), which was significantly less than Chartis ($3,500). I'm a 325 hr, IFR rated SEL, minimal HP and RV-10 time. . $160,000 hull value on 2011 Vans RV 10 . Deductibles: $50 not in motion; $250 in motion . Liability: $1 million/occurrence with sublimit of $100,000 per passenger . Med pay: $5,000 per passenger including crew . Britt/Paulk offers premium financing for your convenience . Total annual premium for all risk ground and flight coverage $2088 . This would be a named pilot only policy. . It appears that they would approve you as pilot and would require you to obtain 2 hours of solo flight in this make and model aircraft prior to carrying passengers. My agent is: Candy Eichenberger Avinsure Agency, Inc. PO Box 1600, Powell, OH 43065 Phone: 7408814188 Fax: 7408814409 Toll free: 888 GR8-2-FLY Email: ceichenberger@avinsureagency.com www.avinsureagency.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:40 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo I got my insurance renewal quote today, after over 800 hours of flight time in my RV-10, and an instrument rating. It's great to see that competition is alive in the insurance market again. >From the sounds of it, AIG is back in, going after the RV pilots with high time in make/model, WITH an instrument rating, and courting them with low rates. My Global quote stayed the same this year at about $2710. My AIG quote ran $2248. I thought it was a no-brainer, even though in some ways Global covers a bit more things than AIG....I'd have to ditch Global for AIG. But, Jenny Estes at NationAir helped and took it one step further and asked Global if they could get close to that rate...and Global came back with $2275. So, they saved me as a customer this year again. This means that in 6 years, and 800+ hours, my rate has now dropped from $3440 or so, to $2275....keeping the hull value the same every year. Hope you all are seeing similar drops. I guess the moral is, pay the piper and build time...and definitely get that instrument rating, and over time you should see your flying pay back a little in terms of rates. Oh, BTW....I was wondering how an RV-10 compared to an expensive sports car, such as a Lamborghini Gallardo. I figured some of those cars have high "hull values" so they may make a good comparison to RV-10 insurance. Turns out that we make out pretty well. One forum I trolled to find quotes said that The Lamborghini would cost about $2300/mo. So, we look pretty good compared to that market. Tim ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:51 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo From: "Bob Turner" Bob, That is a great price. As best I can tell, Britt/Paulk is an "agency for agencies". Is that correct? Do you know the actual company (s) underwriting the policy? Last summer the best I could do for a similar policy was $3800, and I have 2000+ TT, 1000+ HP time, instrument, commercial, cfii, but at the time only 20 hrs of RV-10 time. Hopefully next year will be better! Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364906#364906 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:28 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo I got a quote from Skysmith. I am a low (fix wing) time pilot and Britt/Paulk came as the lowest for the same coverage. I was quite happy with Skysmith. Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Bob Turner Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo Bob, That is a great price. As best I can tell, Britt/Paulk is an "agency for agencies". Is that correct? Do you know the actual company (s) underwriting the policy? Last summer the best I could do for a similar policy was $3800, and I have 2000+ TT, 1000+ HP time, instrument, commercial, cfii, but at the time only 20 hrs of RV-10 time. Hopefully next year will be better! Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364906#364906 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:51 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo Not sure that Lamborghini Gallardo insurance quote is correct. I have a few friends with Ferrari's and they pay between $2-$3,000/ year for insuring their cars. They are garaged & low annual mileage cars not primary use cars so that is also a factor. Speaking of car insurance we pay $1,700/year for 4 cars. Just added our 18 year old daughter to the policy. Add $2,000... This email thread solved it, I am putting my foot down, she is definitely not getting a Lamborghini now! Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo I got my insurance renewal quote today, after over 800 hours of flight time in my RV-10, and an instrument rating. It's great to see that competition is alive in the insurance market again. From the sounds of it, AIG is back in, going after the RV pilots with high time in make/model, WITH an instrument rating, and courting them with low rates. My Global quote stayed the same this year at about $2710. My AIG quote ran $2248. I thought it was a no-brainer, even though in some ways Global covers a bit more things than AIG....I'd have to ditch Global for AIG. But, Jenny Estes at NationAir helped and took it one step further and asked Global if they could get close to that rate...and Global came back with $2275. So, they saved me as a customer this year again. This means that in 6 years, and 800+ hours, my rate has now dropped from $3440 or so, to $2275....keeping the hull value the same every year. Hope you all are seeing similar drops. I guess the moral is, pay the piper and build time...and definitely get that instrument rating, and over time you should see your flying pay back a little in terms of rates. Oh, BTW....I was wondering how an RV-10 compared to an expensive sports car, such as a Lamborghini Gallardo. I figured some of those cars have high "hull values" so they may make a good comparison to RV-10 insurance. Turns out that we make out pretty well. One forum I trolled to find quotes said that The Lamborghini would cost about $2300/mo. So, we look pretty good compared to that market. Tim ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:16 PM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo I don't know about your state but since we have more cars than drivers I can assign the 1994 Altima to him and not insure him for the 2010 Honda and Kia or the 1988 GMC Vandura. It will save a bundle. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo Not sure that Lamborghini Gallardo insurance quote is correct. I have a few friends with Ferrari's and they pay between $2-$3,000/ year for insuring their cars. They are garaged & low annual mileage cars not primary use cars so that is also a factor. Speaking of car insurance we pay $1,700/year for 4 cars. Just added our 18 year old daughter to the policy. Add $2,000... This email thread solved it, I am putting my foot down, she is definitely not getting a Lamborghini now! Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo I got my insurance renewal quote today, after over 800 hours of flight time in my RV-10, and an instrument rating. It's great to see that competition is alive in the insurance market again. >From the sounds of it, AIG is back in, going after the RV pilots with high time in make/model, WITH an instrument rating, and courting them with low rates. My Global quote stayed the same this year at about $2710. My AIG quote ran $2248. I thought it was a no-brainer, even though in some ways Global covers a bit more things than AIG....I'd have to ditch Global for AIG. But, Jenny Estes at NationAir helped and took it one step further and asked Global if they could get close to that rate...and Global came back with $2275. So, they saved me as a customer this year again. This means that in 6 years, and 800+ hours, my rate has now dropped from $3440 or so, to $2275....keeping the hull value the same every year. Hope you all are seeing similar drops. I guess the moral is, pay the piper and build time...and definitely get that instrument rating, and over time you should see your flying pay back a little in terms of rates. Oh, BTW....I was wondering how an RV-10 compared to an expensive sports car, such as a Lamborghini Gallardo. I figured some of those cars have high "hull values" so they may make a good comparison to RV-10 insurance. Turns out that we make out pretty well. One forum I trolled to find quotes said that The Lamborghini would cost about $2300/mo. So, we look pretty good compared to that market. Tim ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:16 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo I worked it up/down, left/right it all came to about the same number to add her to our insurance $2K. If it were her own policy it would was $3,500. It's painful but I understand a teen can cause a lot of damage regardless of the car she is driving. Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:57 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo I don't know about your state but since we have more cars than drivers I can assign the 1994 Altima to him and not insure him for the 2010 Honda and Kia or the 1988 GMC Vandura. It will save a bundle. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo Not sure that Lamborghini Gallardo insurance quote is correct. I have a few friends with Ferrari's and they pay between $2-$3,000/ year for insuring their cars. They are garaged & low annual mileage cars not primary use cars so that is also a factor. Speaking of car insurance we pay $1,700/year for 4 cars. Just added our 18 year old daughter to the policy. Add $2,000... This email thread solved it, I am putting my foot down, she is definitely not getting a Lamborghini now! Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo I got my insurance renewal quote today, after over 800 hours of flight time in my RV-10, and an instrument rating. It's great to see that competition is alive in the insurance market again. >From the sounds of it, AIG is back in, going after the RV pilots with >high time in make/model, WITH an instrument rating, and courting them with low rates. My Global quote stayed the same this year at about $2710. My AIG quote ran $2248. I thought it was a no-brainer, even though in some ways Global covers a bit more things than AIG....I'd have to ditch Global for AIG. But, Jenny Estes at NationAir helped and took it one step further and asked Global if they could get close to that rate...and Global came back with $2275. So, they saved me as a customer this year again. This means that in 6 years, and 800+ hours, my rate has now dropped from $3440 or so, to $2275....keeping the hull value the same every year. Hope you all are seeing similar drops. I guess the moral is, pay the piper and build time...and definitely get that instrument rating, and over time you should see your flying pay back a little in terms of rates. Oh, BTW....I was wondering how an RV-10 compared to an expensive sports car, such as a Lamborghini Gallardo. I figured some of those cars have high "hull values" so they may make a good comparison to RV-10 insurance. Turns out that we make out pretty well. One forum I trolled to find quotes said that The Lamborghini would cost about $2300/mo. So, we look pretty good compared to that market. Tim ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:22 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo From: "rv10flyer" Britt Paulk- Jeff Rhodes, CS&A Insurance- Taylorsville GA. RV driver too. $2138, 135K, vfr, low timer 200 hrs. I am very happy with them. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08 40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011 N715WD 362nd Flying. TT= 29 hrs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364919#364919 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:22 PM PST US From: "bob-tcw" Subject: RV10-List: First flight video N541RV Here=99s a really lame attempt at editing some of the video together from my first flight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9SsXji6Fs Bob Newman 40176 ...flying N541RV ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:02 PM PST US From: "Sean S. Blair" Subject: Re: RV10-List: First flight video N541RV Bob, Enjoyed the video and looks like a great plane.=C2- Congrats! Sean Blair RV7 COS ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob-tcw" Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:02:24 PM Subject: RV10-List: First flight video N541RV Here=99s a really lame attempt at editing some of the video together from my first flight.=C2- =C2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9SsXji6Fs =C2- =C2- Bob Newman 40176=C2- ...flying ============ == ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.