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1. 03:39 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Bob Leffler)
2. 04:32 AM - Midwest Paint Shops (Michael Kraus)
3. 04:46 AM - Re: Midwest Paint Shops (William Greenley)
4. 05:18 AM - Re: First flight video N541RV (Carlos Trigo)
5. 06:18 AM - Re: Midwest Paint Shops (Ed Kranz)
6. 06:35 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Tim Olson)
7. 06:49 AM - Re: Midwest Paint Shops (David Maib)
8. 06:54 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 insurance (Kelly McMullen)
9. 07:13 AM - Kitlog help (woxofswa)
10. 07:21 AM - Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (woxofswa)
11. 07:28 AM - Re: Midwest Paint Shops (egodfrey@ameritech.net)
12. 08:28 AM - Re: Kitlog help (Bob Leffler)
13. 11:47 AM - Re: Kitlog help (woxofswa)
14. 12:44 PM - Re: Midwest Paint Shops (rv10flyer)
15. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo (Bob Leffler)
16. 03:28 PM - Re: Kitlog help (woxofswa)
17. 04:29 PM - Re: First flight video N541RV (Rick Lark)
18. 09:58 PM - Loose aileron hinge bearings (Dave Saylor)
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
I don't have much more info than what I posted. I'm not going to be
airborne until June, so I haven't been big rush to compare all the T&C's
yet. I just heard via the grapevine that Britt/Paulk was issuing policies
at a great rate and wanted to know what they would offer me. The $1,500
reduction will take a big chunk out the Phase I fuel bill.
I listed my agent, feel free to give her a call or one of the other agents
that have been talked about to answer your questions.
bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
Bob,
That is a great price. As best I can tell, Britt/Paulk is an "agency for
agencies". Is that correct? Do you know the actual company (s) underwriting
the policy?
Last summer the best I could do for a similar policy was $3800, and I have
2000+ TT, 1000+ HP time, instrument, commercial, cfii, but at the time only
20 hrs of RV-10 time. Hopefully next year will be better!
Bob
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Midwest Paint Shops |
Looking for a paint shop for my RV-10, preferably in the Midwest. I live in SE
Michigan.
Not looking to spend top dollar for the award winning finish, but want a nice 3-color
paint job for the money.
Thanks
-Mike Kraus
RV-10 Flying
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Midwest Paint Shops |
I have heard good things about the paint shop at Benton harbor (KBEH).
Bill
Working on the wings
Greenley
On Jan 27, 2012 7:36 AM, "Michael Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> wrote:
> >
>
> Looking for a paint shop for my RV-10, preferably in the Midwest. I live
> in SE Michigan.
>
> Not looking to spend top dollar for the award winning finish, but want a
> nice 3-color paint job for the money.
>
> Thanks
> -Mike Kraus
> RV-10 Flying
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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| Subject: | First flight video N541RV |
Bob
The music is very good, the rest not so.......
Just kidding
Very nice and good looking airplane, good take-off, excellent landing!
Congrats
Carlos Trigo
Portugal (Europe)
helping a friend building #40788
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw
Sent: sexta-feira, 27 de Janeiro de 2012 4:02
Subject: RV10-List: First flight video N541RV
Here's a really lame attempt at editing some of the video together from my
first flight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9SsXji6Fs
Bob Newman
40176 ...flying
N541RV
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| Subject: | Re: Midwest Paint Shops |
They might be on the higher end of things, but Wipaire at my home field of
KSGS South Saint Paul, MN has a very good paint shop.
If you were at OSH11, Wipaire had the tiger painted Kodiak on floats.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:44 AM, William Greenley <wgreenley@gmail.com>wrote:
> I have heard good things about the paint shop at Benton harbor (KBEH).
> Bill
> Working on the wings
> Greenley
> On Jan 27, 2012 7:36 AM, "Michael Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
> wrote:
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>> n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
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>> Looking for a paint shop for my RV-10, preferably in the Midwest. I live
>> in SE Michigan.
>>
>> Not looking to spend top dollar for the award winning finish, but want a
>> nice 3-color paint job for the money.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Mike Kraus
>> RV-10 Flying
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
That's great that you guys are finding similar competition in
the rates this year. It's a tremendous relief from what it was
a few years ago. Your rate is a bit lower but the hull value
is lower by a ways too, so mine is in the same range.
One thing to mention is that I actually did NOT choose the
cheapest option that I could have. You have to look at
the whole policy and see what options are included and make
sense. I didn't go with AIG this year again, because they don't
have quite the same benefit level as Global. With the traveling
to Bahamas/Mexico and this year Alaska, there are some things
that are covered that others don't, such as I have coverage
for Search and Recovery costs, and even a $10,000 coverage for
off-airport precautionary landings. So if I find myself with
a rough engine and need to land on a beach, they'll cover
up to $10,000 in costs to get it moved to somewhere else
so I can fix it and take off. Global also has double the
medical payments coverage than AIG pays. Also, some policies
don't cover anyone counted as "crew"...and with a wife pilot
in the family, I want to make sure that there's no question
that she's covered. Some also don't pay for pilot medical
out of the same coverage line item. So as usual, when looking
solely at the dollar cost, you don't get apples to apples.
I know that Jenny got quotes from more places than what
I cared to look at, but I don't know if Britt/Paulk was
one of them, but she knew me and my flying plans, so we looked
at the ones that fit my flying plans the best. Personally,
I'm just thrilled that my rate is over $1200 less than
when I started flying the plane. At the level it's at right
now, it's actually bargain insurance compared to the $900/yr
I used to pay for a Beech Sundowner...because the hull value
there at $50K was way under 3X what the RV-10 is.
Some of this is a testament to YOU all, too. I greatly
appreciate that we've had so few fatal RV-10 accidents.
There are kitbuilt communities that have nowhere near the
safety record the RV-10's do. The sad side is that the
fatals we did have, shouldn't have ever happened in the
first place, but at least the count isn't rising
very rapidly. Kudos to Van's too, for designing a pretty
safe and reliable aircraft!
Oh, and for you first-time RV-10 flyers, make sure to ask
specifically about your coverage during your first flight,
first 10 hours, and flyoff time. There are big differences
in what various companies will cover. Make sure you get
the policy that fits you best.
Tim
On 1/27/2012 5:26 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler"<rv@thelefflers.com>
>
> I don't have much more info than what I posted. I'm not going to be
> airborne until June, so I haven't been big rush to compare all the T&C's
> yet. I just heard via the grapevine that Britt/Paulk was issuing policies
> at a great rate and wanted to know what they would offer me. The $1,500
> reduction will take a big chunk out the Phase I fuel bill.
>
> I listed my agent, feel free to give her a call or one of the other agents
> that have been talked about to answer your questions.
>
> bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:06 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Turner"<bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>
> Bob,
>
> That is a great price. As best I can tell, Britt/Paulk is an "agency for
> agencies". Is that correct? Do you know the actual company (s) underwriting
> the policy?
>
> Last summer the best I could do for a similar policy was $3800, and I have
> 2000+ TT, 1000+ HP time, instrument, commercial, cfii, but at the time only
> 20 hrs of RV-10 time. Hopefully next year will be better!
>
> Bob
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Midwest Paint Shops |
Wipaire at South St. Paul in Minnesota (KSGS) is a great shop. They
are not the cheapest, but the work is very high quality. They were
willing to give me space in their shop to disassemble the airplane
for paint and then to re-assemble it after paint. I felt much better
about doing it that way rather than having the paint shop remove and
re-install the flight controls. I was concerned about having someone
that had never worked on an RV-10 do that work, and I wanted to put
things back together for my own peace of mind. Three and a half years
later the paint still looks fantastic. (except for a few owner
induced boo-boos :-( )
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Jan 27, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Michael Kraus wrote:
> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
>
> Looking for a paint shop for my RV-10, preferably in the Midwest.
> I live in SE Michigan.
>
> Not looking to spend top dollar for the award winning finish, but
> want a nice 3-color paint job for the money.
>
> Thanks
> -Mike Kraus
> RV-10 Flying
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 insurance |
Be careful Tim. Most insurance for Alaska does NOT cover north of the
Arctic Circle. In many places the Arctic Circle is a bit south of the Yukon
River. Many airports are north of the Arctic Circle. The only rational
reason for this limitation is higher cost of repair/recovery(not to mention
finding survivors or wreckage) and it is a convenient place for the
underwriters to draw the line. I didn't let that impede where I went in
Alaska, but I also assumed all hull risk, because for Alaska based aircraft
hull coverage is probably more than twice the rate in lower 48.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> That's great that you guys are finding similar competition in
> the rates this year. It's a tremendous relief from what it was
> a few years ago. Your rate is a bit lower but the hull value
> is lower by a ways too, so mine is in the same range.
> One thing to mention is that I actually did NOT choose the
> cheapest option that I could have. You have to look at
> the whole policy and see what options are included and make
> sense. I didn't go with AIG this year again, because they don't
> have quite the same benefit level as Global. With the traveling
> to Bahamas/Mexico and this year Alaska, there are some things
> that are covered that others don't, such as I have coverage
> for Search and Recovery costs, and even a $10,000 coverage for
> off-airport precautionary landings.
>
>
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I hope the brain trust can help me with a problem. I did a pretty extensive update
to my construction log last night, but when I went to print the new pages
to add to my hardcopy, I discovered that my pagination was off. Trying to sort
out the problem, I discovered that the pictures from the bottom row of each
page are rolling over to the next page thereby increasing my total number of
pages and throwing off the pagination. On several previous updates, this never
happened before, but I can't seem to find a way to get it back to the way it
was.
Thanks in advance.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing
kit in progress.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364939#364939
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
Several years ago I added a 17 year old student pilot son to my insurance on a
Socata Tampico. The cost to add him to the policy with a 70 k hull value and
1million liability was less than it was to insure him in an old beater pickup
with zero hull value and only 30k liability.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing
kit in progress.
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| Subject: | Re: Midwest Paint Shops |
Mike,
I belong to a flying club at KDPA and we had one of our 172's
painted at Flying Colors in Benton Harbor. Ken did a real nice job and
I am planning on taking my 10 there when I get ready for painting.
Ed Godfrey
40717
On 1/27/2012 6:44 AM, William Greenley wrote:
>
> I have heard good things about the paint shop at Benton harbor (KBEH).
> Bill
> Working on the wings
> Greenley
>
> On Jan 27, 2012 7:36 AM, "Michael Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
> <mailto:n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>> wrote:
>
> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net <mailto:n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>>
>
> Looking for a paint shop for my RV-10, preferably in the Midwest.
> I live in SE Michigan.
>
> Not looking to spend top dollar for the award winning finish, but
> want a nice 3-color paint job for the money.
>
> Thanks
> -Mike Kraus
> RV-10 Flying
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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The conversion routines for print output just plain suck it Kitlog. I've attempted
to work on this issue with Matt on multiple occasions over the years. I'm
not optimistic that there will ever be a new release that fixes all the issues.
In that regards, I've come up with many workarounds. In this case, I have acrobat
installed which includes a PDF print driver. I just use the native print command
going to a PDF file, which solves the issue you describe.
Spending time on getting his embedded crystal report module to work right won't
be time well spent. There are several other errors like this that pop up when
your db reaches a certain size. Print to a PDF and not using the report module
converts has solved them all for me.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 27, 2012, at 10:11 AM, "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
I hope the brain trust can help me with a problem. I did a pretty extensive update
to my construction log last night, but when I went to print the new pages
to add to my hardcopy, I discovered that my pagination was off. Trying to sort
out the problem, I discovered that the pictures from the bottom row of each
page are rolling over to the next page thereby increasing my total number of
pages and throwing off the pagination. On several previous updates, this never
happened before, but I can't seem to find a way to get it back to the way it
was.
Thanks in advance.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing
kit in progress.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364939#364939
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Thanks Bob,
I'll give that a try. At the same time as dealing with this fiasco, I'm dealing
with the Mediasearch virus and am about to let my computer say hello to my "little
friend" H&K .40
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing
kit in progress.
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| Subject: | Re: Midwest Paint Shops |
Prices vary greatly...$7,000-$13,000. You know which end of the scale I chose.
It won't win awards and it is going to be hangared 99% of its life. My paint guy
is in SE Ohio.
David Maib's paint job looked excellent back in November 2011 for transition trng.
I am like David...I'll take it apart and reassemble myself.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08
40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 29 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo |
I had the exact same experience when I added my son to my Cherokee. I think
I paid $300 to add him to the Cherokee and $1,400 for his ten year old Grand
Prix.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woxofswa
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 insurance vs. Lamborghini Gallardo
Several years ago I added a 17 year old student pilot son to my insurance on
a Socata Tampico. The cost to add him to the policy with a 70 k hull value
and 1million liability was less than it was to insure him in an old beater
pickup with zero hull value and only 30k liability.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done,
finishing kit in progress.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=364940#364940
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I tried the PDF option, but just keep getting an "unhandled exception" message
and then it either quits or locks up.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing
kit in progress.
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| Subject: | Re: First flight video N541RV |
Just saw your first flight video Bob.=C2- Nice....=C2-If that plane is
decked out anything like your workshop it will a sight to behold.
=C2-
Nice looking winter weather too.
=C2-
Congrats
=C2-
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
--- On Fri, 1/27/12, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote:
From: bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com>
Subject: RV10-List: First flight video N541RV
Received: Friday, January 27, 2012, 4:02 AM
Here=99s a really lame attempt at editing some of the video together
from my first flight.=C2-
=C2-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9SsXji6Fs
=C2-
=C2-
Bob Newman
40176=C2- ...flying
N541RV
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| Subject: | Loose aileron hinge bearings |
I'm doing annual no. 5 and I see there's some looseness in 3 of the 4
aileron hinge bearings. If I lift up or push/pull on the aileron I
can feel a little click and see a tiny bit of movement. I can't say
I've seen this before, but I don't think I really looked for it. I
have to look more carefully than I do on a preflight, but now that I'm
looking, it's obvious. The plane has 988 hours.
I measured the play with a dial indicator and it's about .010"
radially between the inner ball and the outer race. I'm almost
certain the outer race is tight in the hinge bracket since I can see
part of the outer race with the aileron removed.
I know on other homebuilts the ailerons can buzz when the hinges get
loose. Not flutter, just a high frequency hum. I don't notice
anything like that in flight.
Has anyone else seen this? Can someone with newer bearings try the
same thing and let me know if you feel any looseness?
I called the factory and Gus' impression was that it's probably not an
issue. Most of my experience with worn spherical bearings is on
helicopters, and these would just be approaching "boarderline".
What do you guys think?
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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