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1. 05:53 AM - Re: Loose aileron hinge bearings (James McGrew)
2. 06:49 AM - Re: Loose aileron hinge bearings (Kelly McMullen)
3. 07:10 AM - Re: Loose aileron hinge bearings (Dave Saylor)
4. 07:10 AM - Re: Loose aileron hinge bearings (Dave Saylor)
5. 07:41 AM - Re: N541RV First Flight (nukeflyboy)
6. 04:50 PM - Re: First flight video N541RV (Chris)
7. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (Chris)
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| Subject: | Re: Loose aileron hinge bearings |
I just checked mine. Similiar to what you describe on 3 of 4 hinge
bearings. Just enough play to feel a slight click when pushed on. 200
hours on my -10, so I'm guessing that's what it was like when new.
-Jim
N312JE
On 1/27/12, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
> <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
>
> I'm doing annual no. 5 and I see there's some looseness in 3 of the 4
> aileron hinge bearings. If I lift up or push/pull on the aileron I
> can feel a little click and see a tiny bit of movement. I can't say
> I've seen this before, but I don't think I really looked for it. I
> have to look more carefully than I do on a preflight, but now that I'm
> looking, it's obvious. The plane has 988 hours.
>
> I measured the play with a dial indicator and it's about .010"
> radially between the inner ball and the outer race. I'm almost
> certain the outer race is tight in the hinge bracket since I can see
> part of the outer race with the aileron removed.
>
> I know on other homebuilts the ailerons can buzz when the hinges get
> loose. Not flutter, just a high frequency hum. I don't notice
> anything like that in flight.
>
> Has anyone else seen this? Can someone with newer bearings try the
> same thing and let me know if you feel any looseness?
>
> I called the factory and Gus' impression was that it's probably not an
> issue. Most of my experience with worn spherical bearings is on
> helicopters, and these would just be approaching "boarderline".
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Loose aileron hinge bearings |
Dave,
I agree with you. I would monitor them and see if it gets any worse. If
they get any worse, I think it would be worth the peace of mind to replace
them. Control surfaces are not an area you want to tolerate much play. Of
course, if you get the chance to be somewhere that 410RV happens to be on
the ramp, you could see how the "original" is faring in this department.
Maybe you could even get that infamous Tech Counselor (initials of Cox)
that resides near the factory to do a surreptitious check of that aircraft
or 220RV for you.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Dave Saylor <
dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know on other homebuilts the ailerons can buzz when the hinges get
> loose. Not flutter, just a high frequency hum. I don't notice
> anything like that in flight.
>
> Has anyone else seen this? Can someone with newer bearings try the
> same thing and let me know if you feel any looseness?
>
> I called the factory and Gus' impression was that it's probably not an
> issue. Most of my experience with worn spherical bearings is on
> helicopters, and these would just be approaching "boarderline".
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Loose aileron hinge bearings |
Yeah, Gus and I talked a little bit about the easiest way to replace
them (none). It wouldn't be that bad, but I'll avoid it a long as
possible. If others note the same thing on newer ships then I'll fly
it and watch it.
I'm all ears for an Aurora report.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dave,
> I agree with you. I would monitor them and see if it gets any worse. If they
> get any worse, I think it would be worth the peace of mind to replace them.
> Control surfaces are not an area you want to tolerate much play. Of course,
> if you get the chance to be somewhere that 410RV happens to be on the ramp,
> you could see how the "original" is faring in this department. Maybe you
> could even get that infamous Tech Counselor (initials of Cox) that resides
> near the factory to do a surreptitious check of that aircraft or 220RV for
> you.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Dave Saylor
> <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I know on other homebuilts the ailerons can buzz when the hinges get
>> loose. Not flutter, just a high frequency hum. I don't notice
>> anything like that in flight.
>>
>> Has anyone else seen this? Can someone with newer bearings try the
>> same thing and let me know if you feel any looseness?
>>
>> I called the factory and Gus' impression was that it's probably not an
>> issue. Most of my experience with worn spherical bearings is on
>> helicopters, and these would just be approaching "boarderline".
>>
>> What do you guys think?
>>
>> Dave Saylor
>> AirCrafters
>> 140 Aviation Way
>> Watsonville, CA 95076
>> 831-722-9141Shop
>> 831-750-0284Cell
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| Subject: | Re: Loose aileron hinge bearings |
Thanks, Jim. That's what I was hoping. I don't think those bearings
live a very hard life so it wouldn't make a lot of sense for them to
be worn out already.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:50 AM, James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> I just checked mine. Similiar to what you describe on 3 of 4 hinge
> bearings. Just enough play to feel a slight click when pushed on. 200
> hours on my -10, so I'm guessing that's what it was like when new.
>
> -Jim
> N312JE
>
>
> On 1/27/12, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
>>
>> I'm doing annual no. 5 and I see there's some looseness in 3 of the 4
>> aileron hinge bearings. If I lift up or push/pull on the aileron I
>> can feel a little click and see a tiny bit of movement. I can't say
>> I've seen this before, but I don't think I really looked for it. I
>> have to look more carefully than I do on a preflight, but now that I'm
>> looking, it's obvious. The plane has 988 hours.
>>
>> I measured the play with a dial indicator and it's about .010"
>> radially between the inner ball and the outer race. I'm almost
>> certain the outer race is tight in the hinge bracket since I can see
>> part of the outer race with the aileron removed.
>>
>> I know on other homebuilts the ailerons can buzz when the hinges get
>> loose. Not flutter, just a high frequency hum. I don't notice
>> anything like that in flight.
>>
>> Has anyone else seen this? Can someone with newer bearings try the
>> same thing and let me know if you feel any looseness?
>>
>> I called the factory and Gus' impression was that it's probably not an
>> issue. Most of my experience with worn spherical bearings is on
>> helicopters, and these would just be approaching "boarderline".
>>
>> What do you guys think?
>>
>> Dave Saylor
>> AirCrafters
>> 140 Aviation Way
>> Watsonville, CA 95076
>> 831-722-9141 Shop
>> 831-750-0284 Cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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> Sent from my mobile device
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N541RV First Flight |
Congratulations!
I like the paint job and hope the plane flies as well. With some luck I may get
air under my tires this summer.
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - Working G3X panel
Rest almost done
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365025#365025
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| Subject: | First flight video N541RV |
Nice job Bob!!
...Your fellow 8 year builder
-Chris Lucas
N919AR
flying
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:02 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First flight video N541RV
Here=99s a really lame attempt at editing some of the video
together from my first flight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9SsXji6Fs
Bob Newman
40176 ...flying
N541RV
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| Subject: | re: N541RV first flight |
can I ask....empty weight?
-Chris
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:25 AM
Subject: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight
Thanks to all for your compliments, congrats, and support, from both
on-list and off-list email. I really do appreciate it.
For those that inquired here=99s some of the details on the plane:
Stock Lycoming O-540-E4B5 converted to fuel injection with AFP system
3 AFS screens in a symmetrical fiberglass panel (dual 4500=99s
with a 3400 as a mfd) and AFS pilot autopilot
dual Garmin 430W for radios/nav/gps
PS engineering audio panel
GTX327 transponder
Navworx 600-b ADS-b tranceiver
MH pulse O2 system
CO guardin panel mount detector
TCW Technologies stuff......everything we got Smile
Paint: All body work and prep by me, Paint shot by Lancaster Aero
Refinisher at S37
Azko Noble paint wet sanded and clear coated the whole plane.
Interior: Abbey at Flightline plus custom interior panels by Aerosport
products plus some by me.
Thanks again to everyone that helped along the way!
Bob Newman
40176/N541RV now flying
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