RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 01/29/12


Total Messages Posted: 18



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (bob-tcw)
     2. 07:28 AM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (Kelly McMullen)
     3. 07:41 AM - Empty weight  (Chris)
     4. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (Seano)
     5. 08:47 AM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (David Maib)
     6. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (Dave Saylor)
     7. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (Rene)
     8. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (Jack Phillips)
     9. 11:05 AM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (DLM)
    10. 11:06 AM - Re: PS Engineering PMA9000EX FOR SALE (aerosport1)
    11. 11:24 AM - Re: Empty weight (James McGrew)
    12. 11:42 AM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (Albert Gardner)
    13. 11:55 AM - Re: Re: N541RV first flight (Dave Saylor)
    14. 12:02 PM - Re: Empty weight (Dave Saylor)
    15. 02:00 PM - Re: Empty weight (Bill Watson)
    16. 02:24 PM - Re: Empty weight (Bob Turner)
    17. 06:24 PM - Re: Empty weight (rv10flyer)
    18. 06:39 PM - Re: Re: Empty weight (Dave Saylor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:37:49 AM PST US
    From: "bob-tcw" <rnewman@tcwtech.com>
    Subject: Re: re: N541RV first flight
    The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. do not archive From: Chris Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight can I ask....empty weight? -Chris From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight Thanks to all for your compliments, congrats, and support, from both on-list and off-list email. I really do appreciate it. For those that inquired here=99s some of the details on the plane: Stock Lycoming O-540-E4B5 converted to fuel injection with AFP system 3 AFS screens in a symmetrical fiberglass panel (dual 4500=99s with a 3400 as a mfd) and AFS pilot autopilot dual Garmin 430W for radios/nav/gps PS engineering audio panel GTX327 transponder Navworx 600-b ADS-b tranceiver MH pulse O2 system CO guardin panel mount detector TCW Technologies stuff......everything we got Paint: All body work and prep by me, Paint shot by Lancaster Aero Refinisher at S37 Azko Noble paint wet sanded and clear coated the whole plane. Interior: Abbey at Flightline plus custom interior panels by Aerosport products plus some by me. Thanks again to everyone that helped along the way! Bob Newman 40176/N541RV now flying do not archive


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    Time: 07:28:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: re: N541RV first flight
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: > The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. > > > do not archive > > > *From:* Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:48 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight > > > can I ask....empty weight?**** > > -Chris**** > > **** > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *bob-tcw > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:25 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight**** > > **** > > Thanks to all for your compliments, congrats, and support, from both > on-list and off-list email. I really do appreciate it. **** > > **** > > **** > > For those that inquired here=92s some of the details on the plane:**** > > **** > > Stock Lycoming O-540-E4B5 converted to fuel injection with AFP system**** > > **** > > 3 AFS screens in a symmetrical fiberglass panel (dual 4500=92s with a 340 0 > as a mfd) and AFS pilot autopilot**** > > dual Garmin 430W for radios/nav/gps**** > > PS engineering audio panel**** > > GTX327 transponder**** > > Navworx 600-b ADS-b tranceiver**** > > MH pulse O2 system**** > > CO guardin panel mount detector**** > > TCW Technologies stuff......everything we got [image: Smile]**** > > **** > > **** > > Paint: All body work and prep by me, Paint shot by Lancaster Aero > Refinisher at S37**** > > **** > > Azko Noble paint wet sanded and clear coated the whole plane.**** > > **** > > Interior: Abbey at Flightline plus custom interior panels by Aerosport > products plus some by me.**** > > **** > > **** > > Thanks again to everyone that helped along the way!**** > > **** > > Bob Newman**** > > 40176/N541RV now flying**** > > **** > > do not archive**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** >


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    Time: 07:41:13 AM PST US
    From: "Chris" <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Empty weight
    I am near Bob at 1725. And similar equipment and paint/interior/insulation etc. -Chris N919AR From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. do not archive


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    Time: 07:42:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: re: N541RV first flight
    From: Seano <sean@braunandco.com>
    1700. N801VR Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 10:24, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote: > Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or i s just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most f olks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: > The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. > > > do not archive > > > > From: Chris > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:48 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight > > can I ask....empty weight? > > -Chris > > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:25 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight > > > > Thanks to all for your compliments, congrats, and support, from both on-l ist and off-list email. I really do appreciate it. > > > > > > For those that inquired here=99s some of the details on the plane: > > > > Stock Lycoming O-540-E4B5 converted to fuel injection with AFP system > > > > 3 AFS screens in a symmetrical fiberglass panel (dual 4500=99s with a 3400 as a mfd) and AFS pilot autopilot > > dual Garmin 430W for radios/nav/gps > > PS engineering audio panel > > GTX327 transponder > > Navworx 600-b ADS-b tranceiver > > MH pulse O2 system > > CO guardin panel mount detector > > TCW Technologies stuff......everything we got > > > > > > Paint: All body work and prep by me, Paint shot by Lancaster Aero Refini sher at S37 > > > > Azko Noble paint wet sanded and clear coated the whole plane. > > > > Interior: Abbey at Flightline plus custom interior panels by Aerosport p roducts plus some by me. > > > > > > Thanks again to everyone that helped along the way! > > > > Bob Newman > > 40176/N541RV now flying > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 08:47:52 AM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: re: N541RV first flight
    1769 with air-conditioning and tip tanks. David Maib 40559 Flyng On Jan 29, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that > realistic, or is just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few > instruments? Are most folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: > The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. > > > do not archive > > > From: Chris > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:48 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight > > can I ask....empty weight? > > -Chris > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:25 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight > > > Thanks to all for your compliments, congrats, and support, from > both on-list and off-list email. I really do appreciate it. > > > For those that inquired here=92s some of the details on the plane: > > > Stock Lycoming O-540-E4B5 converted to fuel injection with AFP system > > > 3 AFS screens in a symmetrical fiberglass panel (dual 4500=92s with a > 3400 as a mfd) and AFS pilot autopilot > > dual Garmin 430W for radios/nav/gps > > PS engineering audio panel > > GTX327 transponder > > Navworx 600-b ADS-b tranceiver > > MH pulse O2 system > > CO guardin panel mount detector > > TCW Technologies stuff......everything we got > > > Paint: All body work and prep by me, Paint shot by Lancaster Aero > Refinisher at S37 > > > Azko Noble paint wet sanded and clear coated the whole plane. > > > Interior: Abbey at Flightline plus custom interior panels by > Aerosport products plus some by me. > > > Thanks again to everyone that helped along the way! > > > Bob Newman > > 40176/N541RV now flying > > > do not archive > >


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    Time: 08:55:05 AM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: re: N541RV first flight
    I'm at 1714 without any of the stuff I normally carry. Headsets, survival kit, maps, towbar, cover, oil, tiedowns, all that junk adds up to almost 50 lbs. ugh. The planes I've seen that were closer to 1600 (like Van's) tend to do without full IFR and cushy interiors. Climb is definitely better at lower weights, maybe 2000+ FPM vs. 1500 when heavier but I wouldn't say I've notice much difference in cruise speed. I can only remember a couple times in five years when I've departed with less than full fuel in order to stay under gross. So I'd say the trade-off of the extra 100 lbs. has been worth it. That doesn't mean that people should just keep piling stuff in. It adds up FAST and it's really easy to end up with a lot more weight than you expected. I almost always recommend to customers to pare it back a little, mostly because of weight and to keep the mindset that lighter is better. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote: > Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or > is just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are mo st > folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: > >> The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. >> >> >> do not archive >> >> >> >> *From:* Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:48 PM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight >> >> >> can I ask....empty weight?**** >> >> -Chris**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *bob-tcw >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:25 AM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight**** >> >> **** >> >> Thanks to all for your compliments, congrats, and support, from both >> on-list and off-list email. I really do appreciate it. **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> For those that inquired here=99s some of the details on the plane: **** >> >> **** >> >> Stock Lycoming O-540-E4B5 converted to fuel injection with AFP system*** * >> >> **** >> >> 3 AFS screens in a symmetrical fiberglass panel (dual 4500=99s wit h a 3400 >> as a mfd) and AFS pilot autopilot**** >> >> dual Garmin 430W for radios/nav/gps**** >> >> PS engineering audio panel**** >> >> GTX327 transponder**** >> >> Navworx 600-b ADS-b tranceiver**** >> >> MH pulse O2 system**** >> >> CO guardin panel mount detector**** >> >> TCW Technologies stuff......everything we got [image: Smile]**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> Paint: All body work and prep by me, Paint shot by Lancaster Aero >> Refinisher at S37**** >> >> **** >> >> Azko Noble paint wet sanded and clear coated the whole plane.**** >> >> **** >> >> Interior: Abbey at Flightline plus custom interior panels by Aerosport >> products plus some by me.**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> Thanks again to everyone that helped along the way!**** >> >> **** >> >> Bob Newman**** >> >> 40176/N541RV now flying**** >> >> **** >> >> do not archive**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 09:00:37 AM PST US
    From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: re: N541RV first flight
    My current weight is 1717....I don't see going on a diet any time soon...but I don't think I will add much more. The only things I have left on my add list are. APRS and Auto Trim I think they will only be a pound or two each. That is it for the airplane. The pilot is on a diet, so let's see if I can save some weight there. Rene' N423CF From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. do not archive From: Chris <mailto:toaster73@embarqmail.com> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight can I ask....empty weight? -Chris From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight Thanks to all for your compliments, congrats, and support, from both on-list and off-list email. I really do appreciate it. For those that inquired here's some of the details on the plane: Stock Lycoming O-540-E4B5 converted to fuel injection with AFP system 3 AFS screens in a symmetrical fiberglass panel (dual 4500's with a 3400 as a mfd) and AFS pilot autopilot dual Garmin 430W for radios/nav/gps PS engineering audio panel GTX327 transponder Navworx 600-b ADS-b tranceiver MH pulse O2 system CO guardin panel mount detector TCW Technologies stuff......everything we got Paint: All body work and prep by me, Paint shot by Lancaster Aero Refinisher at S37 Azko Noble paint wet sanded and clear coated the whole plane. Interior: Abbey at Flightline plus custom interior panels by Aerosport products plus some by me. Thanks again to everyone that helped along the way! Bob Newman 40176/N541RV now flying do not archive


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    Time: 09:06:30 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: re: N541RV first flight
    Agreed, Dave. As Bill Stout (designer of the Ford Trimotor) used to say, "Simplicate and add Lightness" Jack Phillips #40610 Wings (finally finished the ailerons!) Raleigh, NC That doesn't mean that people should just keep piling stuff in. It adds up FAST and it's really easy to end up with a lot more weight than you expected. I almost always recommend to customers to pare it back a little, mostly because of weight and to keep the mindset that lighter is better. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell


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    Time: 11:05:58 AM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: re: N541RV first flight
    1666; dual Cheltons, GRT Sport and EIS, SL30 and 327, TT Digiflite VSGV, O2, dual bus and 3-680s _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Maib Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:45 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight 1769 with air-conditioning and tip tanks. David Maib 40559 Flyng On Jan 29, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. do not archive From: Chris <mailto:toaster73@embarqmail.com> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight can I ask....empty weight? -Chris From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight Thanks to all for your compliments, congrats, and support, from both on-list and off-list email. I really do appreciate it. For those that inquired here's some of the details on the plane: Stock Lycoming O-540-E4B5 converted to fuel injection with AFP system 3 AFS screens in a symmetrical fiberglass panel (dual 4500's with a 3400 as a mfd) and AFS pilot autopilot dual Garmin 430W for radios/nav/gps PS engineering audio panel GTX327 transponder Navworx 600-b ADS-b tranceiver MH pulse O2 system CO guardin panel mount detector TCW Technologies stuff......everything we got Smile Paint: All body work and prep by me, Paint shot by Lancaster Aero Refinisher at S37 Azko Noble paint wet sanded and clear coated the whole plane. Interior: Abbey at Flightline plus custom interior panels by Aerosport products plus some by me. Thanks again to everyone that helped along the way! Bob Newman 40176/N541RV now flying do not archive href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution


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    Time: 11:06:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: PS Engineering PMA9000EX FOR SALE
    From: "aerosport1" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
    This is still for sale and with a reduced price of $1150.00 OBO. Free shipping anywhere in continental US -------- Geoff Combs RV-10 QB N829GW Flying 40033 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365143#365143


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    Time: 11:24:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Empty weight
    From: James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu>
    I'm at 1565 lb; IFR panel, fully primed but minimalist interior and no paint yet. 1600 is realistic if you want it. -Jim N312JE On 1/29/12, Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> wrote: > I am near Bob at 1725. And similar equipment and paint/interior/insulation > etc. > > -Chris > > N919AR > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:25 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight > > > Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is > just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most > folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: > > The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. > > > do not archive > > -- Sent from my mobile device


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    Time: 11:42:51 AM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: re: N541RV first flight
    Somebody was creating a database of RV-10's and their weight, etc. Anybody remember who? Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:58 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight My current weight is 1717....I don't see going on a diet any time soon...but I don't think I will add much more. The only things I have left on my add list are. APRS and Auto Trim I think they will only be a pound or two each. That is it for the airplane. The pilot is on a diet, so let's see if I can save some weight there. Rene' N423CF From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. do not archive From: Chris <mailto:toaster73@embarqmail.com> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight can I ask....empty weight? -Chris From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight Thanks to all for your compliments, congrats, and support, from both on-list and off-list email. I really do appreciate it. For those that inquired here's some of the details on the plane: Stock Lycoming O-540-E4B5 converted to fuel injection with AFP system 3 AFS screens in a symmetrical fiberglass panel (dual 4500's with a 3400 as a mfd) and AFS pilot autopilot dual Garmin 430W for radios/nav/gps PS engineering audio panel GTX327 transponder Navworx 600-b ADS-b tranceiver MH pulse O2 system CO guardin panel mount detector TCW Technologies stuff......everything we got Paint: All body work and prep by me, Paint shot by Lancaster Aero Refinisher at S37 Azko Noble paint wet sanded and clear coated the whole plane. Interior: Abbey at Flightline plus custom interior panels by Aerosport products plus some by me. Thanks again to everyone that helped along the way! Bob Newman 40176/N541RV now flying do not archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 11:55:07 AM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: re: N541RV first flight
    1666 is awesome with a full panel like that. Good job. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell Do Not Archive On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:02 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com> wrote: > 1666; dual Cheltons, GRT Sport and EIS, SL30 and 327, TT Digiflite VSGV, > O2, dual bus and 3-680s**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David Maib > *Sent:* Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:45 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight**** > > ** ** > > 1769 with air-conditioning and tip tanks.**** > > ** ** > > David Maib**** > > 40559**** > > Flyng**** > > ** ** > > On Jan 29, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:**** > > > **** > > Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or > is just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are mo st > folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below?**** > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote:**** > > The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755.**** > > **** > > **** > > do not archive**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> **** > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:48 PM**** > > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com **** > > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight**** > > **** > > can I ask....empty weight?**** > > -Chris**** > > **** > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *bob-tcw > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:25 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight**** > > **** > > Thanks to all for your compliments, congrats, and support, from both > on-list and off-list email. I really do appreciate it. **** > > **** > > **** > > For those that inquired here=99s some of the details on the plane:* *** > > **** > > Stock Lycoming O-540-E4B5 converted to fuel injection with AFP system**** > > **** > > 3 AFS screens in a symmetrical fiberglass panel (dual 4500=99s with a 3400 > as a mfd) and AFS pilot autopilot**** > > dual Garmin 430W for radios/nav/gps**** > > PS engineering audio panel**** > > GTX327 transponder**** > > Navworx 600-b ADS-b tranceiver**** > > MH pulse O2 system**** > > CO guardin panel mount detector**** > > TCW Technologies stuff......everything we got [image: Smile]**** > > **** > > **** > > Paint: All body work and prep by me, Paint shot by Lancaster Aero > Refinisher at S37**** > > **** > > Azko Noble paint wet sanded and clear coated the whole plane.**** > > **** > > Interior: Abbey at Flightline plus custom interior panels by Aerosport > products plus some by me.**** > > **** > > **** > > Thanks again to everyone that helped along the way!**** > > **** > > Bob Newman**** > > 40176/N541RV now flying**** > > **** > > do not archive**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > ** ** > > * * > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matroni cs.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ contribution* > > * * > > ** ** > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 12:02:50 PM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Empty weight
    I've seen a paint job add 150 lbs but that was a IV-P that took a lot of bodywork, several colors, and no detail spared. My interior added about 80 pounds which made me mad at first but I got over it. The shop added some soundproofing that I could have done without but in retrospect it's pretty quiet without the headsets on. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:21 AM, James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > I'm at 1565 lb; IFR panel, fully primed but minimalist interior and no > paint yet. 1600 is realistic if you want it. > > -Jim > N312JE > > On 1/29/12, Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> wrote: >> I am near Bob at 1725. And similar equipment and paint/interior/insulation >> etc. >> >> -Chris >> >> N919AR >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen >> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:25 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight >> >> >> >> Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is >> just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most >> folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? >> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: >> >> The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. >> >> >> >> >> >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > >


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    Time: 02:00:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Empty weight
    From: Bill Watson <mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    I came in at 1684 full amateur paint and flight line interior. Full 3 screen panel, 2 batts, 2 alternators, etc. Seems very doable as a VFR cruiser. Bill Sent from my iPad On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've seen a paint job add 150 lbs but that was a IV-P that took a > lot of bodywork, several colors, and no detail spared. > > My interior added about 80 pounds which made me mad at first > but I got over it. The shop added some soundproofing that I could > have done without but in retrospect it's pretty quiet without the > headsets on. > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA 95076 > 831-722-9141 Shop > 831-750-0284 Cell > > > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:21 AM, James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu> wrote: >> >> I'm at 1565 lb; IFR panel, fully primed but minimalist interior and no >> paint yet. 1600 is realistic if you want it. >> >> -Jim >> N312JE >> >> On 1/29/12, Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> wrote: >>> I am near Bob at 1725. And similar equipment and paint/interior/insulation >>> etc. >>> >>> -Chris >>> >>> N919AR >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen >>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:25 AM >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: re: N541RV first flight >>> >>> >>> >>> Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is >>> just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most >>> folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below? >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote: >>> >>> The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 02:24:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Empty weight
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    N48HT BEW = 1605 lbs full ifr w/ GRT HX, HS, EIS; Dynon D6 backup w/ battery. G420, SL-30, GTX 327, home-made audio panel, xm weather radio. Trio Pro auto pilot w/ auto trim. Interior and exterior primed; exterior has a thin (too thin) coat of PTI enamel poorly sprayed by me. Cowling shows the hex pattern, I don't fill enough. Interior has some carpet and leather seat coverings but nothing else. Cabin top spray painted with Rust-O-lium because I couldn't stand the pink. Definitely need good headphones, but with them the noise level is okay. Standard engine (D4A5). I am happy to trade the unsightly interior (in some peoples' eyes - I think it's fine) and slightly higher noise level and more uneven heating in the winter for the unbelievable climb rate, ceiling, and load carrying capability. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365165#365165


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    Time: 06:24:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Empty weight
    From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@gmail.com>
    Ewcg= 7.7" @ 1626 lbs w/o ext paint. 2 grt hx, 430w, pma8000b, g327, sl-40, dynon d6, g496, tt df2 ap, ak451 406 elt, painted int, cloth seats, 925/680 bat in back, 55 watt dw hids, whelen strobes, roll trim, sean's latch kit, d4a5, hartzell 2bl ba...flies like a dream. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 05/93 PP 10/08 40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011 N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 29 hrs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365179#365179


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    Time: 06:39:57 PM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Empty weight
    Wayne, if you can let us know what the paint ends up weighing it'll make a good data point. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:20 PM, rv10flyer <wayne.gillispie@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ewcg= 7.7" @ 1626 lbs w/o ext paint. 2 grt hx, 430w, pma8000b, g327, sl-40, dynon d6, g496, tt df2 ap, ak451 406 elt, painted int, cloth seats, 925/680 bat in back, 55 watt dw hids, whelen strobes, roll trim, sean's latch kit, d4a5, hartzell 2bl ba...flies like a dream. > > -------- > Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 05/93 PP 10/08 > 40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011 > N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 29 hrs. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365179#365179 > >




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