---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/05/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: Midwest Paint Shops (Carl Froehlich) 2. 10:00 AM - Re: Re: Midwest Paint Shops () 3. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: Midwest Paint Shops (Phil Barnette) 4. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: Midwest Paint Shops (Carl Froehlich) 5. 02:27 PM - Re: Re: Midwest Paint Shops (David Maib) 6. 05:48 PM - Plan (Shannon Hicks) 7. 07:24 PM - RV-10 Empenage kit for sale (Stephen Blank,DDS) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:44 AM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Midwest Paint Shops Total material cost for my 10 was $3700 (three color PPG base/clear coat high end metallic). As I'm an amateur painter, about $400 of that was "redo" cash. The $3700 included all paint accessories such as fine line tape, buffing compounds and masking. Painting was done in a homemade paint booth in the hangar (2x4 frame and plastic with a couple of large exhaust fans). I'd guess you could do a traditional single stage paint job with a couple of stripes for well under $2500, including primer. Having someone to help who knows how to paint would have been wonderful. I painted my 8A myself and figured the 10 would be about the same. I was wrong. The 10 is a lot harder. Looking back, if I could find someone to do a nice job for under $12K I'd jump at it. I'd guess it would be hard finding someone other than a 10 or Lancair builder who really knows how to do the fiberglass prep work on a 10. Carl April first flight????? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:47 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Midwest Paint Shops Lew, I think that the current rate for unpainted and more importantly, un-prepared RVs seems to be $7K at the low end and $12K at the high end. I am planning on painting my self with the help of my buddy who owns a body shop and paint booth a few miles from my home. I expect the paint to cost at least $2500 to $3500. Bill -------- Bill Peyton Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365647#365647 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:36 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Midwest Paint Shops Hey Guys, Let me try a direct question: How much would you expect to pay someone to take the raw fiberglass (canopy, cowl, doors, pants, fairings, wingtips), fit it (and I mean mount the canopy, install windows with Weldon/glass in edges, assemble/fit the doors,fit the cowl with hinge pins/sky bolts, etc., align the pants to air flow, etc.) seal all the pinholes, prime it; prime all the aluminum exterior surfaces (wings, control surfaces, vert/horiz stab, fuse), final paint tri color(either Imron, acrylic enamel, or urethane -- no clear coat)? I've done this now for an RV-10 and an RV-8A for much less than $7K (all materials/paint included). It takes about 230 hrs. So far I've done it for friends and love the challenge of it, but now I'm getting referrals and have to re-think this. Any educated guesses would be appreciated. I have an idea what my time is worth, but was curious what the professionals would charge, or what folks would be willing to pay. Later, - Lew ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Midwest Paint Shops From: Phil Barnette Let me get in line before the price increase!! Seriously, can't really imagine what that should commercially price out as!!! Phil B Sent from my iPhone On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:55 AM, wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > Let me try a direct question: How much would you expect to pay someone to take the raw fiberglass (canopy, cowl, doors, pants, fairings, wingtips), fit it (and I mean mount the canopy, install windows with Weldon/glass in edges, assemble/fit the doors,fit the cowl with hinge pins/sky bolts, etc., align the pants to air flow, etc.) seal all the pinholes, prime it; prime all the aluminum exterior surfaces (wings, control surfaces, vert/horiz stab, fuse), final paint tri color(either Imron, acrylic enamel, or urethane -- no clear coat)? > > I've done this now for an RV-10 and an RV-8A for much less than $7K (all materials/paint included). > > It takes about 230 hrs. So far I've done it for friends and love the challenge of it, but now I'm getting referrals and have to re-think this. > > Any educated guesses would be appreciated. I have an idea what my time is worth, but was curious what the professionals would charge, or what folks would be willing to pay. > > Later, - Lew > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:12 AM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Midwest Paint Shops If you can do all this in 230 hours, you are truly a magician. I know I took at least twice that long. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lewgall@charter.net Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:55 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Midwest Paint Shops Hey Guys, Let me try a direct question: How much would you expect to pay someone to take the raw fiberglass (canopy, cowl, doors, pants, fairings, wingtips), fit it (and I mean mount the canopy, install windows with Weldon/glass in edges, assemble/fit the doors,fit the cowl with hinge pins/sky bolts, etc., align the pants to air flow, etc.) seal all the pinholes, prime it; prime all the aluminum exterior surfaces (wings, control surfaces, vert/horiz stab, fuse), final paint tri color(either Imron, acrylic enamel, or urethane -- no clear coat)? I've done this now for an RV-10 and an RV-8A for much less than $7K (all materials/paint included). It takes about 230 hrs. So far I've done it for friends and love the challenge of it, but now I'm getting referrals and have to re-think this. Any educated guesses would be appreciated. I have an idea what my time is worth, but was curious what the professionals would charge, or what folks would be willing to pay. Later, - Lew ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:00 PM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Midwest Paint Shops I imagine most professional shops would be charging $75 to $85 per hour at a minimum. You could be pushing $20K at that rate. That would not be out of line for doing all that work, IMHO. David Maib 40559 Flying On Feb 5, 2012, at 12:55 PM, lewgall@charter.net wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > Let me try a direct question: How much would you expect to pay > someone to take the raw fiberglass (canopy, cowl, doors, pants, > fairings, wingtips), fit it (and I mean mount the canopy, install > windows with Weldon/glass in edges, assemble/fit the doors,fit the > cowl with hinge pins/sky bolts, etc., align the pants to air flow, > etc.) seal all the pinholes, prime it; prime all the aluminum > exterior surfaces (wings, control surfaces, vert/horiz stab, fuse), > final paint tri color(either Imron, acrylic enamel, or urethane -- > no clear coat)? > > I've done this now for an RV-10 and an RV-8A for much less than > $7K (all materials/paint included). > > It takes about 230 hrs. So far I've done it for friends and love > the challenge of it, but now I'm getting referrals and have to re- > think this. > > Any educated guesses would be appreciated. I have an idea what my > time is worth, but was curious what the professionals would charge, > or what folks would be willing to pay. > > Later, - Lew > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:20 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Plan From: Shannon Hicks Someone emailed me this morning requesting access to the plans, but I can not find the email now. Please send the request again and I will get you added. Thanks, Shannon 41153 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:42 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Empenage kit for sale From: "Stephen Blank,DDS" I have an 80% built tailcone for sale. I reduced my asking price to $2,500 or make me an offer. This is a great jump start. The horizontal stabilizer and elevators are complete, the vertical fin and rudder are finished. I am located in Florida and would prefer someone that is able to pick up the project. A few images are available at the link below. Contact info below. - Steve http://www.psldentist.com/rv10.html Stephen Blank,DDS 766 SE River Lane Port St. Lucie, FL 34983 772-475-5556 sent from my Evo-Shift ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.