---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/11/12: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:06 AM - Re: Pitot tube mast (johngoodman) 2. 01:15 PM - Fuel Line (Albert Gardner) 3. 01:26 PM - Re: Pitot tube mast (Bob Turner) 4. 01:55 PM - Re: Fuel Line (Tim Olson) 5. 03:17 PM - Re: Fuel Line (Albert Gardner) 6. 03:41 PM - Re: Fuel Line (Kelly McMullen) 7. 03:49 PM - Re: Fuel Line (Dave Saylor) 8. 04:25 PM - Re: Fuel Line (Kelly McMullen) 9. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: Pitot tube mast (Rene) 10. 04:41 PM - Medical (Rene) 11. 04:53 PM - Re: Medical (Kelly McMullen) 12. 05:00 PM - Re: Medical (Kelly McMullen) 13. 05:17 PM - Re: Pitot tube mast (Bob Turner) 14. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: Pitot tube mast (Rene) 15. 07:47 PM - Re: Fuel Line (Tim Olson) 16. 08:01 PM - Re: Fuel Line (Seano) 17. 08:06 PM - Re: Fuel Line () 18. 08:10 PM - Aircraft Specialty (Steven T) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:23 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube mast From: "johngoodman" I have the Dynon heated AoA with the Gretz mount. Works fine. I remember it was a complicated install. John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366066#366066 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:15:06 PM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Line I found a leak in my fuel line that runs from the spider down to the fuel servo. The leak occurred where the hose goes through the baffle from the spider so I removed the armor from the hose over the leak and found that the rubber center was very stiff and not very flexible. The hose has been affected by the heat in that area but I don't know where to get a replacement hose or what to specify as to hose type. Is this a time limited part-mine has been in service in sunny Arizona for 3-1/2 years- or was the hose quality not good enough in the first place. The original did not have fire-sleeve on it: would fire-sleeve have help protect it from the heat? Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:14 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube mast From: "Bob Turner" I also have the Gretz mount and the Dynon Pitot. I thought the installation was straightforward. I did it prior to riveting the skin. The Dynon is, like the Gretz, thermostatically controlled. It will drive a light to show that it's turned on and working. I haven't yet hooked it up to anything other than my GRT EIS. Software guru's: Does anyone know if it's possible to code the GRT EIS so that with the OAT < 5 C AND a given analog input (hooked to the pitot sensor) high, it will send a warning? e.g., I'd like to get a pitot heat reminder if I forget to turn it on when the OAT < 5C. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366082#366082 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:18 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line Where did you get the hose from? Mine had fire sleeve on it. Tim Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 2/11/2012 3:13 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: > I found a leak in my fuel line that runs from the spider down to the > fuel servo. The leak occurred where the hose goes through the baffle > from the spider so I removed the armor from the hose over the leak and > found that the rubber center was very stiff and not very flexible. The > hose has been affected by the heat in that area but I dont know where > to get a replacement hose or what to specify as to hose type. Is this a > time limited part-mine has been in service in sunny Arizona for 3-1/2 > years- or was the hose quality not good enough in the first place. The > original did not have fire-sleeve on it: would fire-sleeve have help > protect it from the heat? > > Albert Gardner > > N991RV > > Yuma, AZ > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:10 PM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Line I'm going to replace the hose Tim but don't know of a source. I got mine from an off-road supply house and it was not fire-sleeved. Do you remember where your came from? Albert -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line Where did you get the hose from? Mine had fire sleeve on it. Tim Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 2/11/2012 3:13 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: > I found a leak in my fuel line that runs from the spider down to the > fuel servo. The leak occurred where the hose goes through the baffle > from the spider so I removed the armor from the hose over the leak and > found that the rubber center was very stiff and not very flexible. The > hose has been affected by the heat in that area but I don't know where > to get a replacement hose or what to specify as to hose type. Is this a > time limited part-mine has been in service in sunny Arizona for 3-1/2 > years- or was the hose quality not good enough in the first place. The > original did not have fire-sleeve on it: would fire-sleeve have help > protect it from the heat? > > Albert Gardner > > N991RV > > Yuma, AZ > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:36 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line Recommend integral firesleeve hose. Parker 124J or equivalent. Precision Hose Technology i Tulsa is one good hose shop. It is a standard hose for all IO540s, so they should know the dimensions. On 2/11/2012 4:15 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" > > I'm going to replace the hose Tim but don't know of a source. I got mine > from an off-road supply house and it was not fire-sleeved. Do you remember > where your came from? Albert > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:54 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > > Where did you get the hose from? Mine had fire sleeve on it. > Tim > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > On 2/11/2012 3:13 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: >> I found a leak in my fuel line that runs from the spider down to the >> fuel servo. The leak occurred where the hose goes through the baffle >> from the spider so I removed the armor from the hose over the leak and >> found that the rubber center was very stiff and not very flexible. The >> hose has been affected by the heat in that area but I don't know where >> to get a replacement hose or what to specify as to hose type. Is this a >> time limited part-mine has been in service in sunny Arizona for 3-1/2 >> years- or was the hose quality not good enough in the first place. The >> original did not have fire-sleeve on it: would fire-sleeve have help >> protect it from the heat? >> >> Albert Gardner >> >> N991RV >> >> Yuma, AZ >> > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:26 PM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line I use Herber Aircraft in El Segundo. www.herberaircraft.com You definitely want fire sleeve on that one. You should be able to just call them and order by length and type of end fitting. Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: > > I'm going to replace the hose Tim but don't know of a source. I got mine > from an off-road supply house and it was not fire-sleeved. Do you remember > where your came from? Albert > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:54 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line > > > > Where did you get the hose from? Mine had fire sleeve on it. > Tim > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > On 2/11/2012 3:13 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: > > I found a leak in my fuel line that runs from the spider down to the > > fuel servo. The leak occurred where the hose goes through the baffle > > from the spider so I removed the armor from the hose over the leak and > > found that the rubber center was very stiff and not very flexible. The > > hose has been affected by the heat in that area but I don't know where > > to get a replacement hose or what to specify as to hose type. Is this a > > time limited part-mine has been in service in sunny Arizona for 3-1/2 > > years- or was the hose quality not good enough in the first place. The > > original did not have fire-sleeve on it: would fire-sleeve have help > > protect it from the heat? > > > > Albert Gardner > > > > N991RV > > > > Yuma, AZ > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:09 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line For this particular line I prefer the teflon integral firesleeve hose, because it is smaller outside diameter, naturally abrasion resistant, and is good for the life of the engine. Some have opted to use it for all oil and fuel hose forward of firewall......Will Curtis I think, perhaps some others. It is about 15-20% more expensive, but prevents any fire from burning through the line(for awhile at least). On 2/11/2012 4:48 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: > I use Herber Aircraft in El Segundo. www.herberaircraft.com > You definitely want fire sleeve on > that one. You should be able to just call them and order by length > and type of end fitting. > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA 95076 > 831-722-9141 Shop > 831-750-0284 Cell > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Albert Gardner > wrote: > > > > > I'm going to replace the hose Tim but don't know of a source. I > got mine > from an off-road supply house and it was not fire-sleeved. Do you > remember > where your came from? Albert > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:54 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line > > > > > > Where did you get the hose from? Mine had fire sleeve on it. > Tim > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > On 2/11/2012 3:13 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: > > I found a leak in my fuel line that runs from the spider down to the > > fuel servo. The leak occurred where the hose goes through the baffle > > from the spider so I removed the armor from the hose over the > leak and > > found that the rubber center was very stiff and not very > flexible. The > > hose has been affected by the heat in that area but I don't know > where > > to get a replacement hose or what to specify as to hose type. Is > this a > > time limited part-mine has been in service in sunny Arizona for > 3-1/2 > > years- or was the hose quality not good enough in the first > place. The > > original did not have fire-sleeve on it: would fire-sleeve have help > > protect it from the heat? > > > > Albert Gardner > > > > N991RV > > > > Yuma, AZ > > > > > ========== > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > MS - > k">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > e - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:11 PM PST US From: "Rene" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube mast How about this for a 2 minute answer..... Use the coolant temp line on your EIS and set the lower end to alarm at -5C. Put that line through a normally closed relay that is activated by the pilot heat (on line).... Now I can already see a couple of problems with that, but they could be worked out....like what is the reading with no input...would you have to provide a false signal for when the heat is on, etc. Another idea that would work.....a couple of years ago at an AOPA event I saw a guy selling an ice detector. You could use one of those to warn you when you have ice. You would have to figure out where to mount it so that it ices up first so that if you have not turned on the pitot heat you are not too late. You could use one of the analog lines in the GRT system. I will put more than two minutes on this later......I am not an electronics guy....I may have been trained by the Air Force back in the 70's but since then electricity has changed.....or maybe I have just gotten older. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube mast I also have the Gretz mount and the Dynon Pitot. I thought the installation was straightforward. I did it prior to riveting the skin. The Dynon is, like the Gretz, thermostatically controlled. It will drive a light to show that it's turned on and working. I haven't yet hooked it up to anything other than my GRT EIS. Software guru's: Does anyone know if it's possible to code the GRT EIS so that with the OAT < 5 C AND a given analog input (hooked to the pitot sensor) high, it will send a warning? e.g., I'd like to get a pitot heat reminder if I forget to turn it on when the OAT < 5C. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366082#366082 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:41:02 PM PST US From: "Rene" Subject: RV10-List: Medical Got my first old age scare this past year....one year ago I was told I had ocular hypertension.....high pressure in the eye. I looked it up on the FAA site and found out that although my eye doctor said I had no problems, that my flight surgeon would not be able to sign my medical. Trying to be proactive I got my eye doctor the form the FAA said they needed and well before my medical expired, I got a fresh eye exam with all the special test I needed and then did my flight physical...due to scheduling problems that was done right after Christmas. My flight surgeon proceeded to defer my medical to the FAA and sent in all the paperwork. Since my old medical expired 31 Jan 12, I started calling the last week of Jan. They were very pleasant, but all they would tell me was that they had the paperwork and they would get to it when they got to it. Long story short, they got to it and I receive a new medical 10 Feb. Although I thought there was no problem......it really hit me hard when it got to a point where I could not fly. Caution....the FAA can be slow.... Rene N423CF ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:07 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Medical On 2/11/2012 5:39 PM, Rene wrote: > Having been down this road a couple times, just keep in mind that you CAN fly, as long as you locate an appropriately rated pilot to act as PIC. Maybe a little tricky if you want to meet insurance requirements for open pilot...but for FAA just needs private with HP endorsement. > > Although I thought there was no problem......it really hit me hard when it > got to a point where I could not fly. > > Caution....the FAA can be slow.... > > > Rene > N423CF > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:00:33 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Medical Let me reformat that so it reads correctly On 2/11/2012 5:52 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > >> Having been down this road a couple times, just keep in mind that >> you CAN fly, as long as you locate an appropriately rated pilot to >> act as PIC. Maybe a little tricky if you want to meet insurance >> requirements for open pilot...but for FAA just needs private with HP >> endorsement. If your insurance calls for 25 hours of RV time....a post to Van's Airforce offering a ride in RV-10 to anyone meeting that # hours and qualifications should get you someone to play the role. I did that for 9 months with a hung kidney stone that was too small to blast. Just had to find someone with tailwheel experience for the plane I had then. >> On 2/11/2012 5:39 PM, Rene wrote: >> Although I thought there was no problem......it really hit me hard >> when it >> got to a point where I could not fly. >> >> Caution....the FAA can be slow.... >> >> >> Rene >> N423CF >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:17:36 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube mast From: "Bob Turner" Rene, Thanks for your thoughts. Problem is, there is only one analog output for all alarms. I don't want "pitot heat needed" illuminating when it's time to change fuel tanks, for example. Of course the serial output line has all the info. But that sounds a lot harder. Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366104#366104 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:50:07 PM PST US From: "Rene" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube mast I was thinking GRT EFIS when I wrote that. http://www.newavionics.com/9732_oem.html#icing You could run a separate warning light.....but maybe overkill. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:17 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube mast Rene, Thanks for your thoughts. Problem is, there is only one analog output for all alarms. I don't want "pitot heat needed" illuminating when it's time to change fuel tanks, for example. Of course the serial output line has all the info. But that sounds a lot harder. Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366104#366104 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:21 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line That's why I wondered too....I couldn't remember if mine came with the engine or from Van's, but it had fire sleeve, so I was curious as to how yours didn't. I have some photos though and it looks like it came with the engine from Aerosport, so that's how I got it. Has anyone replaced the fuel line in the tunnel from fuel pump to firewall with teflon yet? I'm about to start tearing open that area again and I think if teflon will do the curves right I would like to do flex there too. I still have the poor quality aluminum tube there now. I bought some of the better stuff too, so in a pinch I could remake it. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 2/11/2012 5:15 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" > > I'm going to replace the hose Tim but don't know of a source. I got mine > from an off-road supply house and it was not fire-sleeved. Do you remember > where your came from? Albert > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:54 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > > Where did you get the hose from? Mine had fire sleeve on it. > Tim > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > On 2/11/2012 3:13 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: >> I found a leak in my fuel line that runs from the spider down to the >> fuel servo. The leak occurred where the hose goes through the baffle >> from the spider so I removed the armor from the hose over the leak and >> found that the rubber center was very stiff and not very flexible. The >> hose has been affected by the heat in that area but I don't know where >> to get a replacement hose or what to specify as to hose type. Is this a >> time limited part-mine has been in service in sunny Arizona for 3-1/2 >> years- or was the hose quality not good enough in the first place. The >> original did not have fire-sleeve on it: would fire-sleeve have help >> protect it from the heat? >> >> Albert Gardner >> >> N991RV >> >> Yuma, AZ >> > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:56 PM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line Tim, Mine is flex line from Bonaco from the pump to the firewall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:45 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line > > That's why I wondered too....I couldn't remember if mine came > with the engine or from Van's, but it had fire sleeve, so I > was curious as to how yours didn't. I have some photos though > and it looks like it came with the engine from Aerosport, so > that's how I got it. > > Has anyone replaced the fuel line in the tunnel from fuel > pump to firewall with teflon yet? I'm about to start > tearing open that area again and I think if teflon will > do the curves right I would like to do flex there too. > I still have the poor quality aluminum tube there now. > I bought some of the better stuff too, so in a pinch > I could remake it. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 2/11/2012 5:15 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" >> >> I'm going to replace the hose Tim but don't know of a source. I got mine >> from an off-road supply house and it was not fire-sleeved. Do you >> remember >> where your came from? Albert >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson >> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:54 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line >> >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson >> >> >> >> Where did you get the hose from? Mine had fire sleeve on it. >> Tim >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> do not archive >> >> On 2/11/2012 3:13 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: >>> I found a leak in my fuel line that runs from the spider down to the >>> fuel servo. The leak occurred where the hose goes through the baffle >>> from the spider so I removed the armor from the hose over the leak and >>> found that the rubber center was very stiff and not very flexible. The >>> hose has been affected by the heat in that area but I don't know where >>> to get a replacement hose or what to specify as to hose type. Is this a >>> time limited part-mine has been in service in sunny Arizona for 3-1/2 >>> years- or was the hose quality not good enough in the first place. The >>> original did not have fire-sleeve on it: would fire-sleeve have help >>> protect it from the heat? >>> >>> Albert Gardner >>> >>> N991RV >>> >>> Yuma, AZ >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:32 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line Hey Tim, Yes, on the stainless braided/teflon inner from the fuel pump to the firewall. I'm pretty sure others here had done it, then when Wes had his inspected, the guy recommended that the original hard line be replaced (as well as the brake lines from the fuse all the way down to the wheel cylinders) -- so we did. It wasn't that difficult to do and no problems in the last two years. We just measured and had them made up at a local hydraulic shop. Later, - Lew -----Original Message----- From: Tim Olson Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 10:45 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line That's why I wondered too....I couldn't remember if mine came with the engine or from Van's, but it had fire sleeve, so I was curious as to how yours didn't. I have some photos though and it looks like it came with the engine from Aerosport, so that's how I got it. Has anyone replaced the fuel line in the tunnel from fuel pump to firewall with teflon yet? I'm about to start tearing open that area again and I think if teflon will do the curves right I would like to do flex there too. I still have the poor quality aluminum tube there now. I bought some of the better stuff too, so in a pinch I could remake it. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 2/11/2012 5:15 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" > > I'm going to replace the hose Tim but don't know of a source. I got mine > from an off-road supply house and it was not fire-sleeved. Do you remember > where your came from? Albert > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:54 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Line > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > > Where did you get the hose from? Mine had fire sleeve on it. > Tim > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > On 2/11/2012 3:13 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: >> I found a leak in my fuel line that runs from the spider down to the >> fuel servo. The leak occurred where the hose goes through the baffle >> from the spider so I removed the armor from the hose over the leak and >> found that the rubber center was very stiff and not very flexible. The >> hose has been affected by the heat in that area but I don't know where >> to get a replacement hose or what to specify as to hose type. Is this a >> time limited part-mine has been in service in sunny Arizona for 3-1/2 >> years- or was the hose quality not good enough in the first place. The >> original did not have fire-sleeve on it: would fire-sleeve have help >> protect it from the heat? >> >> Albert Gardner >> >> N991RV >> >> Yuma, AZ >> > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:10:09 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Aircraft Specialty From: Steven T Good evening everyone. My name is Steve, and I am an RV builder in Wisconsin. We just finished an RV-10, and previously I have completed a Challenger Amphib and about half a Murphy Moose. I have been involved in different aspects of aviation for my entire life, and have a passion for working on airplanes. 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