---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/18/12: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:59 AM - Re: Leaking tanks (rv10flyer) 2. 07:20 AM - Re: Re: Leaking tanks (John Cox) 3. 07:27 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Robin Marks) 4. 11:09 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Jim Combs) 5. 11:09 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Jim Combs) 6. 01:42 PM - Re: Landing Lights (dmaib@me.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:25 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Leaking tanks From: "rv10flyer" Roughen any mating surfaces/clean well with mek. I used almost two qts of proseal from ACS. Allowed two days to cure. Used one pint of PR-1005-L Buna-N sealant on prosealed joints. Every rivet installed wet. Allowed two more days to cure. Pressurized to one psi using digital manometer. Most balloons do not produce enough pressure when fully inflated. They range between .25-.75 psi. Pressure held for two days. Also checked all external joints, rivets, fittings and caps with leak detection fluid used for refrigerant/natural gas leaks. No peeling of Buna-N or leaks so far. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08 40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011 N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 29 hrs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366532#366532 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Leaking tanks From: John Cox Wayne, that is the first comprehensive narrative of doing it right. Nicely done! The best of luck well into the future. Sometimes the shotcuts produce marginal results. John 40600 On Feb 18, 2012 7:05 AM, "rv10flyer" wrote: > > Roughen any mating surfaces/clean well with mek. I used almost two qts of > proseal from ACS. Allowed two days to cure. Used one pint of PR-1005-L > Buna-N sealant on prosealed joints. Every rivet installed wet. Allowed two > more days to cure. Pressurized to one psi using digital manometer. Most > balloons do not produce enough pressure when fully inflated. They range > between .25-.75 psi. Pressure held for two days. Also checked all external > joints, rivets, fittings and caps with leak detection fluid used for > refrigerant/natural gas leaks. No peeling of Buna-N or leaks so far. > > -------- > Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08 > 40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011 > N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 29 hrs. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366532#366532 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:21 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Landing Lights Here is what we did for my 8A Nav lights. Cost all of $40.00. Works better than most I have seen. Green/Red LED's came from www.SuperbrightLED.com If you want even brighter (no need) then buy the LED's with more lights on the side. Connector is $3. 00 automotive socket. Colored Plexi was $4.00 each from ??? HID Landing Lights came from eBay ~$70.00/pair. Photos Attached, Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Fritzsche (Building) Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing Lights --> He provided no specific data. He did state that the wing tip lights provid ed a wider area of coverage and if my memory is correct were brighter. We were shown a lot of different lights which were very bright in a darkened r oom. Dave On 2/15/2012 11:34 PM, Gordon Anderson wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Gordon Anderson > > Dave, > > Unfortunately I can't answer your question since I went with HID's, but w ould be interested to know if Howard compared the Aveo Powerburst wing tip nav/strobe lights (396USD @ ACS) with the Aeroleds NS90 (759USD). I can't tell if these are in a different performance category or just a different p rice category ;-) Unfortunately ACS was unable to offer any information ei ther. > > Gordon > 41015 Switzerland > > Do not archive > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dave Fritzsche > 40813 > Puyallup, WA > Wings > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:09:38 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing Lights From: Jim Combs Robin. What units did you get for the NAV Lights? Jim C N312F - Flying Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:09:47 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing Lights From: Jim Combs Robin - Never mind took a while for the pictures to load. Jim C Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:40 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Landing Lights From: "dmaib@me.com" My lighting has evolved a bit since I finished my airplane. I started out with the stock Van's 75 watt halogen landing lights and the standard Whelen nav/strobe package from Van's. A couple of years ago I replaced the red and green nav lights with plug in LED replacement bulbs from http://www.psaenterprises.com/ I replaced the green and red lenses with clear lenses at that time. The bulbs have been great and amp draw went from around 3.0-3.5 per side to 0.1 per side. The Van's landing lights have been marginal at night, as most have noted. A couple of weeks ago my right landing light bulb burned out. I have been following LED and HID options for quite a while, and decided to install the 35 watt HID drop in replacements for the MR-16 bulb from Planelights at http://pl.infochi.net/? The kit showed up and the quality of the wiring harnesses was excellent with moisture proof connectors. It took me about 15 minutes to install each ballast on the end rib and to crimp a couple of new connectors on the ships wiring to match the Planelights harness. I also ovaled out the inboard side of the landing light hole a bit as others had suggested. The idea was to get a little more light angled in front of the airplane. That night I went to the hangar and turned on the lights with the new HID in the right side and the old halogen in the left side. The difference was astounding. I went ahead and installed the left light a couple of days later. I had my first night flight Thursday night and I have to say I am delighted. Plenty of light to taxi and with some dumb luck, I seem to have them aimed correctly for landing right off the bat. The old halogen bulbs drew around 6.5 -6.7 amps each and the HID's are drawing 3.0-3.2 amps per side. They wig-wag just fine and the tower here told me they were extremely bright. He said "you look like a 777 out there!" I was not interested in cutting holes in my wings to install Duckworks at this stage of the game. However, if I was building, I might go ahead and install the Duckworks. Steve, at Planelights was great to work with. The 35 watt kit was $240 and Steve threw in free shipping. Sorry I did not get any photo's, but I just wanted to throw in this datapoint. An excellent product at a decent price and good customer service. I am a happy camper at this point. :D -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Transition Trainer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366551#366551 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.