---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/25/12: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:56 AM - Airframe measurements (Jason Wodack) 2. 08:26 AM - Wheel pants (James McGrew) 3. 09:53 AM - Re: Wheel Pants (bcondrey) 4. 10:07 AM - Re: Wheel pants (Steve Farner) 5. 11:32 AM - Re: Wheel pants (Preid) 6. 12:56 PM - Re: Wheel pants (rene@felker.com) 7. 03:42 PM - Re: Wheel Pants (Bob Turner) 8. 09:25 PM - Re: Wheel pants (Robin Marks) 9. 10:19 PM - Fresh paint (David Leikam) 10. 10:27 PM - Re: Wheel pants (Seano) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:10 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Airframe measurements From: Jason Wodack I'm in the process of planning a conventional gear RV 10, and I was hoping y'all could find me some measurements. 1 Wing LE to Firewall 2 Wing LE to end of the Tail 3 tail to ground in level flight attitude ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:05 AM PST US From: "James McGrew" Subject: RV10-List: Wheel pants Thanks to some much needed ribbing from Bob Condrey, after 5+ years of flying, I finally installed the wheel pants. I've been putting it off so long, I started to develop a fear of the job. someone told me it was worse than doing the doors (which I consider the most painful job of the whole project). the wheel pants weren't that bad, but still not much fun in a sub-freezing hangar. I flew the plane yesterday and what a difference! I had 125 KIAS off the runway before I realized I needed to raise the nose a bit higher than I'm used to. I managed to climb easily at 115 KIAS (this would almost zero out my climb rate with no wheel pants). I leveled at 9500 MSL and trimmed out to 166 KTAS, lean of peak at 10 GPH. I then turned West and (literally) popped up to 10500 MSL, where the plane trimmed to 165. That is a 15 to 16 knot gain in true cruising speed. The plane also felt smoother and quieter. I'll see if this has helped fix my engine cooling problems as the weather warms up, but from a qualitative point of view the wheel pants seems to make a big difference in CHT and oil temps in climb. -Jim N312JE ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:06 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Wheel Pants From: "bcondrey" Not sure "ribbing" would be the right word, maybe just strong encouragement... Glad you got it done - it really is hard to believe how much of a difference it makes! Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367240#367240 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:26 AM PST US From: Steve Farner Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wheel pants As a "newbie," I've been told that the doors are really tough, as is the in strument installation. I was hoping someone would tell me it gets easier after the elevators, but I'm guessing that won't happen! Steve Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [owner-rv10-list-server@matronic s.com] On Behalf Of James McGrew [jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:22 AM Subject: RV10-List: Wheel pants Thanks to some much needed ribbing from Bob Condrey, after 5+ years of flyi ng, I finally installed the wheel pants. I=92ve been putting it off so long , I started to develop a fear of the job=85 someone told me it was worse th an doing the doors (which I consider the most painful job of the whole proj ect)=85 the wheel pants weren=92t that bad, but still not much fun in a sub -freezing hangar. I flew the plane yesterday and what a difference! I had 125 KIAS off the ru nway before I realized I needed to raise the nose a bit higher than I=92m u sed to. I managed to climb easily at 115 KIAS (this would almost zero out m y climb rate with no wheel pants). I leveled at 9500 MSL and trimmed out to 166 KTAS, lean of peak at 10 GPH. I then turned West and (literally) poppe d up to 10500 MSL, where the plane trimmed to 165. That is a 15 to 16 knot gain in true cruising speed. The plane also felt smoother and quieter. I=92ll see if this has helped fix my engine cooling problems as the weather warms up, but from a qualitative point of view the wheel pants seems to ma ke a big difference in CHT and oil temps in climb. -Jim N312JE ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:32:25 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wheel pants From: Preid The pants add the extra speed you mentioned and drag reduction. I can tell y ou from recent SoCal temps that yes the CHT WILL go down as the engine gets m ore air but also less resistance. On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:22 AM, "James McGrew" wrote: > Thanks to some much needed ribbing from Bob Condrey, after 5+ years of fly ing, I finally installed the wheel pants. I=99ve been putting it off s o long, I started to develop a fear of the job someone told me it w as worse than doing the doors (which I consider the most painful job of the w hole project) the wheel pants weren=99t that bad, but still n ot much fun in a sub-freezing hangar. > > I flew the plane yesterday and what a difference! I had 125 KIAS off the r unway before I realized I needed to raise the nose a bit higher than I =99m used to. I managed to climb easily at 115 KIAS (this would almost zero o ut my climb rate with no wheel pants). I leveled at 9500 MSL and trimmed out to 166 KTAS, lean of peak at 10 GPH. I then turned West and (literally) pop ped up to 10500 MSL, where the plane trimmed to 165. That is a 15 to 16 knot gain in true cruising speed. > > The plane also felt smoother and quieter. > > I=99ll see if this has helped fix my engine cooling problems as the w eather warms up, but from a qualitative point of view the wheel pants seems t o make a big difference in CHT and oil temps in climb. > > -Jim > N312JE > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:29 PM PST US From: rene@felker.com Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wheel pants WWVzLCBpIHRob3VnaHQgaXQgZ290IGVhc2llci4uLi4uZmFzdGVyIGFsc28uCgpTZW50IGZyb20g bXkgVmVyaXpvbiBXaXJlbGVzcyA0RyBMVEUgRFJPSUQKCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgbWVzc2FnZS0t LS0tCkZyb206IFN0ZXZlIEZhcm5lciA8c3RldmUuZmFybmVyQGJlbGxldnVlLmVkdT4KVG86ICJy djEwLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbSIgPHJ2MTAtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPgpTZW50OiBT YXQsIEZlYiAyNSwgMjAxMiAxMTowMjoyMCBNU1QKU3ViamVjdDogUkU6IFJWMTAtTGlzdDogV2hl ZWwgcGFudHMKCkFzIGEgIm5ld2JpZSwiIEkndmUgYmVlbiB0b2xkIHRoYXQgdGhlIGRvb3JzIGFy ZSByZWFsbHkgdG91Z2gsIGFzIGlzIHRoZSBpbnN0cnVtZW50IGluc3RhbGxhdGlvbi4KCkkgd2Fz IGhvcGluZyBzb21lb25lIHdvdWxkIHRlbGwgbWUgaXQgZ2V0cyBlYXNpZXIgYWZ0ZXIgdGhlIGVs ZXZhdG9ycywgYnV0IEknbSBndWVzc2luZyB0aGF0IHdvbid0IGhhcHBlbiEKClN0ZXZlCgpEbyBu b3QgYXJjaGl2ZQoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogb3duZXIt cnYxMC1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tIFtvd25lci1ydjEwLWxpc3Qtc2VydmVyQG1h dHJvbmljcy5jb21dIE9uIEJlaGFsZiBPZiBKYW1lcyBNY0dyZXcgW2pzbWNncmV3QGFsdW0ubWl0 LmVkdV0KU2VudDogU2F0dXJkYXksIEZlYnJ1YXJ5IDI1LCAyMDEyIDEwOjIyIEFNClRvOiBydjEw LWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSVjEwLUxpc3Q6IFdoZWVsIHBhbnRzCgpUaGFu a3MgdG8gc29tZSBtdWNoIG5lZWRlZCByaWJiaW5nIGZyb20gQm9iIENvbmRyZXksIGFmdGVyIDUr IHllYXJzIG9mIGZseWluZywgSSBmaW5hbGx5IGluc3RhbGxlZCB0aGUgd2hlZWwgcGFudHMuIEni gJl2ZSBiZWVuIHB1dHRpbmcgaXQgb2ZmIHNvIGxvbmcsIEkgc3RhcnRlZCB0byBkZXZlbG9wIGEg ZmVhciBvZiB0aGUgam9i4oCmIHNvbWVvbmUgdG9sZCBtZSBpdCB3YXMgd29yc2UgdGhhbiBkb2lu ZyB0aGUgZG9vcnMgKHdoaWNoIEkgY29uc2lkZXIgdGhlIG1vc3QgcGFpbmZ1bCBqb2Igb2YgdGhl IHdob2xlIHByb2plY3Qp4oCmIHRoZSB3aGVlbCBwYW50cyB3ZXJlbuKAmXQgdGhhdCBiYWQsIGJ1 dCBzdGlsbCBub3QgbXVjaCBmdW4gaW4gYSBzdWItZnJlZXppbmcgaGFuZ2FyLgoKSSBmbGV3IHRo ZSBwbGFuZSB5ZXN0ZXJkYXkgYW5kIHdoYXQgYSBkaWZmZXJlbmNlISBJIGhhZCAxMjUgS0lBUyBv ZmYgdGhlIHJ1bndheSBiZWZvcmUgSSByZWFsaXplZCBJIG5lZWRlZCB0byByYWlzZSB0aGUgbm9z ZSBhIGJpdCBoaWdoZXIgdGhhbiBJ4oCZbSB1c2VkIHRvLiBJIG1hbmFnZWQgdG8gY2xpbWIgZWFz aWx5IGF0IDExNSBLSUFTICh0aGlzIHdvdWxkIGFsbW9zdCB6ZXJvIG91dCBteSBjbGltYiByYXRl IHdpdGggbm8gd2hlZWwgcGFudHMpLiBJIGxldmVsZWQgYXQgOTUwMCBNU0wgYW5kIHRyaW1tZWQg b3V0IHRvIDE2NiBLVEFTLCBsZWFuIG9mIHBlYWsgYXQgMTAgR1BILiBJIHRoZW4gdHVybmVkIFdl c3QgYW5kIChsaXRlcmFsbHkpIHBvcHBlZCB1cCB0byAxMDUwMCBNU0wsIHdoZXJlIHRoZSBwbGFu ZSB0cmltbWVkIHRvIDE2NS4gVGhhdCBpcyBhIDE1IHRvIDE2IGtub3QgZ2FpbiBpbiB0cnVlIGNy dWlzaW5nIHNwZWVkLgoKVGhlIHBsYW5lIGFsc28gIGZlbHQgc21vb3RoZXIgYW5kIHF1aWV0ZXIu CgpJ4oCZbGwgc2VlIGlmIHRoaXMgaGFzIGhlbHBlZCBmaXggbXkgZW5naW5lIGNvb2xpbmcgcHJv YmxlbXMgYXMgdGhlIHdlYXRoZXIgd2FybXMgdXAsIGJ1dCBmcm9tIGEgcXVhbGl0YXRpdmUgcG9p bnQgb2YgdmlldyB0aGUgd2hlZWwgcGFudHMgc2VlbXMgdG8gbWFrZSBhIGJpZyBkaWZmZXJlbmNl IGluIENIVCBhbmQgb2lsIHRlbXBzIGluIGNsaW1iLgoKLUppbQpOMzEySkUKCgoKCgoK ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:51 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Wheel Pants From: "Bob Turner" "As a "newbie," I've been told that the doors are really tough, as is the instrument installation. " It's all in the eye of the beholder. Most -10 builders are "metal guys" so the other stuff seems harder. I've spent my life in and around electronics so I thought the avionics was absolutely straightforward. The key, as with most things, is to spend 3 times as much time thinking about it as doing it! -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367261#367261 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:17 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wheel pants SXQgZ2V0cyBlYXNpZXIgYWZ0ZXIgdGhlIGZpcnN0IGNvbmRpdGlvbiBpbnNwZWN0aW9uLg0KDQpS b2Jpbg0KRG8gbm90IGFyY2hpdmUNCg0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IGlQYWQyLg0KDQpPbiBGZWIgMjUs IDIwMTIsIGF0IDQ6MDkgUE0sICJyZW5lQGZlbGtlci5jb208bWFpbHRvOnJlbmVAZmVsa2VyLmNv bT4iIDxyZW5lQGZlbGtlci5jb208bWFpbHRvOnJlbmVAZmVsa2VyLmNvbT4+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQpZ ZXMsIGkgdGhvdWdodCBpdCBnb3QgZWFzaWVyLi4uLi5mYXN0ZXIgYWxzby4NCg0KU2VudCBmcm9t IG15IFZlcml6b24gV2lyZWxlc3MgNEcgTFRFIERST0lEDQoNCg0KLS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBtZXNz YWdlLS0tLS0NCkZyb206IFN0ZXZlIEZhcm5lciA8c3RldmUuZmFybmVyQGJlbGxldnVlLmVkdTxt YWlsdG86c3RldmUuZmFybmVyQGJlbGxldnVlLmVkdT4+DQpUbzogInJ2MTAtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25p 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It is as fast as it looks! Safe and sound in the hanger now at KUES. Dave Leikam do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wheel pants From: Seano I concur. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2012, at 21:23, Robin Marks wrote: > It gets easier after the first condition inspection. > > Robin > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPad2. > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 4:09 PM, "rene@felker.com" wrote: > >> Yes, i thought it got easier.....faster also. >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID >> >> >> -----Original message----- >> From: Steve Farner >> To: "rv10-list@matronics.com" >> Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 11:02:20 MST >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wheel pants >> >> As a "newbie," I've been told that the doors are really tough, as is the i nstrument installation. >> >> I was hoping someone would tell me it gets easier after the elevators, bu t I'm guessing that won't happen! >> >> Steve >> >> Do not archive >> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [owner-rv10-list-server@matron ics.com] On Behalf Of James McGrew [jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu] >> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:22 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Wheel pants >> >> Thanks to some much needed ribbing from Bob Condrey, after 5+ years of fl ying, I finally installed the wheel pants. I=99ve been putting it off s o long, I started to develop a fear of the job someone told me it w as worse than doing the doors (which I consider the most painful job of the w hole project) the wheel pants weren=99t that bad, but still n ot much fun in a sub-freezing hangar. >> >> I flew the plane yesterday and what a difference! I had 125 KIAS off the r unway before I realized I needed to raise the nose a bit higher than I =99m used to. I managed to climb easily at 115 KIAS (this would almost zero o ut my climb rate with no wheel pants). I leveled at 9500 MSL and trimmed out to 166 KTAS, lean of peak at 10 GPH. I then turned West and (literally) pop ped up to 10500 MSL, where the plane trimmed to 165. 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