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     1. 04:38 PM - Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? (William Curtis)
     2. 04:56 PM - Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? (Dave Saylor)
     3. 05:08 PM - Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? (Bob Leffler)
     4. 05:31 PM - Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? (Tom Hanaway)
     5. 06:33 PM - Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? (Bill Watson)
     6. 07:21 PM - Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? (Bob Leffler)
     7. 08:11 PM - Re: Leaking tanks (Rob Kochman)
     8. 09:00 PM - Re: Leaking tanks (Rob Kermanj)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:38:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently?
    From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    Bill/Tom, Did you ever receive you ADS-B unit from Navworx? I'm still waiting on word/eturn of my unit sent in for upgrade back in September. >According to Bill Moffit, one of the planned software upgrades is to give GPS output. I want to use this to drive my ELT. Hopefully, it will come with this software upgrade. Given that we already have to enter a number of software commands into the ADS-600B for setup and ID purposes, I don=92t understand why Navworx doesn=92t make the software available for online downloading as opposed to requiring the unit to be sent back in. >Tom H. >>Subject: Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? >>I'm still awaiting my ADS-600B unit. Sent my ADS-600 unit for upgrade back in September. I did get a reply from Bill Moffitt yesterday that "they are trying to get the latest software into all units prior to shipment." He gave me the option for them to ship it now, but if they did, "I would have to return it before it will support an future software upgrades, new features, etc." I opted to wait. >> >>William >>----------- -- William N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/


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    Time: 04:56:46 PM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently?
    I received a software update (3.10.0) from Bill on Feb. 27. I just installed it Friday and I haven't flown with it yet but it seems to have resolved an issue that the last two didn't address. I sent my unit back to them about a month ago and was pleasantly surprised to have it turned around pretty quickly. But I know how you feel. It's usually pretty quiet at Navworx... --Dave Saylor On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:35 PM, William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com> wrote: > Bill/Tom, > > Did you ever receive you ADS-B unit from Navworx? I'm still waiting on > word/eturn of my unit sent in for upgrade back in September. > > > >According to Bill Moffit, one of the planned software upgrades is to giv e > GPS output. I want to use this to drive my ELT. Hopefully, it will come > with this software upgrade. Given that we already have to enter a number of > software commands into the ADS-600B for setup and ID purposes, I don =99t > understand why Navworx doesn=99t make the software available for on line > downloading as opposed to requiring the unit to be sent back in. > >Tom H. > > >>Subject: Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? > >>I'm still awaiting my ADS-600B unit. Sent my ADS-600 unit for upgrade > back in September. I did get a reply from Bill Moffitt yesterday that "th ey > are trying to get the latest software into all units prior to shipment." He > gave me the option for them to ship it now, but if they did, "I would hav e > to return it before it will support an future software upgrades, new > features, etc." I opted to wait. > >> > >>William > >>----------- > > > -- > > William > N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 05:08:10 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently?
    This a comment I received from Bill about a month ago. I've not received any communication since then. "There is a new software release, but it's in beta testing right now. You'll be notified when it's available." I just sent him the following question, but I'll ask it here since there are plenty of folks that have already installed an ADS600-B. I was finishing the wiring for mine this afternoon, when I noticed an omission. In the 10/31/2011 version of the ADS600-B manual, it highlights connecting the RS-232 output from the GTX-327 to Pin 33 for transponder control. On the ADS600 to AFS page, it highlights connecting Pin 35 for Transponder suppression. Although it's not formally documented on the GTX-327 page, I'm assuming that I need to connect pin 35 on the ADS600-B to pin 17 on the GTX-327, which is the external suppression pin. Is my assumption correct Bob From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Curtis Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? Bill/Tom, Did you ever receive you ADS-B unit from Navworx? I'm still waiting on word/eturn of my unit sent in for upgrade back in September. >According to Bill Moffit, one of the planned software upgrades is to give GPS output. I want to use this to drive my ELT. Hopefully, it will come with this software upgrade. Given that we already have to enter a number of software commands into the ADS-600B for setup and ID purposes, I don't understand why Navworx doesn't make the software available for online downloading as opposed to requiring the unit to be sent back in. >Tom H. >>Subject: Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? >>I'm still awaiting my ADS-600B unit. Sent my ADS-600 unit for upgrade back in September. I did get a reply from Bill Moffitt yesterday that "they are trying to get the latest software into all units prior to shipment." He gave me the option for them to ship it now, but if they did, "I would have to return it before it will support an future software upgrades, new features, etc." I opted to wait. >> >>William >>----------- -- William N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/


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    Time: 05:31:49 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Hanaway" <tomhanaway@comcast.net>
    Subject: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently?
    Bill, I last spoke with Moffit approximately two months ago and decided not to send my unit in as Moffit said that he didn't have the hardware needed for upgrades at that time. I'm copying my friend Hugo on this email. He sent his unit in and was still waiting. Hugo, any details on what's going on with your unit. I guess Navworx goes on my list of people I need to talk to at Sun and Fun. DAR final inspection tomorrow at 10 AM. Hoo Yah!!!! Tom From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Curtis Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? Bill/Tom, Did you ever receive you ADS-B unit from Navworx? I'm still waiting on word/eturn of my unit sent in for upgrade back in September. >According to Bill Moffit, one of the planned software upgrades is to give GPS output. I want to use this to drive my ELT. Hopefully, it will come with this software upgrade. Given that we already have to enter a number of software commands into the ADS-600B for setup and ID purposes, I don't understand why Navworx doesn't make the software available for online downloading as opposed to requiring the unit to be sent back in. >Tom H. >>Subject: Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? >>I'm still awaiting my ADS-600B unit. Sent my ADS-600 unit for upgrade back in September. I did get a reply from Bill Moffitt yesterday that "they are trying to get the latest software into all units prior to shipment." He gave me the option for them to ship it now, but if they did, "I would have to return it before it will support an future software upgrades, new features, etc." I opted to wait. >> >>William >>----------- -- William N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/


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    Time: 06:33:01 PM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently?
    I rec'd a unit a couple of weeks ago. Unfortunately I haven't really gotten into the technical details of the installation but it looks like I may have ordered a unit without the ARINC module. I'm thinking that with GRT HX units, a GTX327 and G430 that ARINC is needed. I have a wiring harness from FastStack that I think assumes ARINC support. Looking forward to talking to NavWorx tomorrow. Bill Watson On 3/11/2012 7:35 PM, William Curtis wrote: > Bill/Tom, > Did you ever receive you ADS-B unit from Navworx? I'm still waiting > on word/eturn of my unit sent in for upgrade back in September. > > >According to Bill Moffit, one of the planned software upgrades is > to give GPS output. I want to use this to drive my ELT. Hopefully, > it will come with this software upgrade. Given that we already > have to enter a number of software commands into the ADS-600B for > setup and ID purposes, I dont understand why Navworx doesnt make > the software available for online downloading as opposed to > requiring the unit to be sent back in. > >Tom H. > >>Subject: Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? > >>I'm still awaiting my ADS-600B unit. Sent my ADS-600 unit for > upgrade back in September. I did get a reply from Bill Moffitt > yesterday that "they are trying to get the latest software into > all units prior to shipment." He gave me the option for them to > ship it now, but if they did, "I would have to return it before it > will support an future software upgrades, new features, etc." I > opted to wait. > >> > >>William > >>----------- >


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    Time: 07:21:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently?
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    I don't think arnic is a requirement. Most of the efis vendors support the d isplay port output which is rs232. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote: I rec'd a unit a couple of weeks ago. Unfortunately I haven't really gotten into the technical details of the inst allation but it looks like I may have ordered a unit without the ARINC modul e. I'm thinking that with GRT HX units, a GTX327 and G430 that ARINC is nee ded. I have a wiring harness from FastStack that I think assumes ARINC supp ort. Looking forward to talking to NavWorx tomorrow. Bill Watson On 3/11/2012 7:35 PM, William Curtis wrote: > > Bill/Tom, > > Did you ever receive you ADS-B unit from Navworx? I'm still waiting on wo rd/eturn of my unit sent in for upgrade back in September. > > >According to Bill Moffit, one of the planned software upgrades is to give GPS output. I want to use this to drive my ELT. Hopefully, it will come wit h this software upgrade. Given that we already have to enter a number of sof tware commands into the ADS-600B for setup and ID purposes, I don=99t u nderstand why Navworx doesn=99t make the software available for online downloading as opposed to requiring the unit to be sent back in. > >Tom H. > > >>Subject: Re: Navworx deliveries - anybody rec'd any recently? > >>I'm still awaiting my ADS-600B unit. Sent my ADS-600 unit for upgrade ba ck in September. I did get a reply from Bill Moffitt yesterday that "they ar e trying to get the latest software into all units prior to shipment." He ga ve me the option for them to ship it now, but if they did, "I would have to r eturn it before it will support an future software upgrades, new features, e tc." I opted to wait. > >> > >>William > >>----------- ========================== ======== ========================== ======== ========================== ======== ========================== ========


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    Time: 08:11:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Leaking tanks
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    Just to close the loop on this, after pulling the tank and sending it off for a brief vacation in Aurora, it's back and mounted on the plane. Haven't flown yet, but it passed the leak test, so hoping my tank problems are behind me. -Rob On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote: > Your situation sounds a little worse than mine. I did not smell the fuel. > Good luck. I think van will help you out. > > > Rob Kermanj > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks, guys... Rob, it sounds like we're in a similar situation. We'll > see what Van's says. I'd be happy with a few leaking rivets, but what I > have is not a small leak. It causes blue streaks on the bottom of the wing > and a fuel smell in the cockpit (though I only notice it on the ground when > the doors have been closed for a while). > > -Rob > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Rob, I had the same problem and chased it for a year. It started with a >> minor leak at one of the top rivets and worsened to leaks from the same >> places you describe. Van gave me a repair kit and it held for a while but >> it did not work. I know you probably don't want to hear this; I had to >> replace the tank completely. Talk to van and see what they will do for you. >> >> Do not archive. >> >> Rob Kermanj >> >> >> >> On Feb 14, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: >> >> Resurrecting this thread... I had the same problem on my right quickbuild >> tank (leaking not at the outlet fitting, but rather the VA-141 part that >> the fitting screws into), which I wrote about here earlier. I ended up >> gooping a bunch of proseal around the fitting and finger strainer, and that >> stopped the leak... at the time. Now I have 100 hours on the airplane and >> it's leaking again. >> >> Also, on the same tank, I'm always had a fuel vent leak. It must be >> leaking at the fuel vent line fitting inside the tank, because that part >> passes the pressure leak test and it only leaks fuel when the fuel level >> is above the vent fitting at the wing root. Also, I have confirmed that >> the end of the fuel vent line (by the fuel cap) is completely out of the >> fuel, so it's not that. >> >> Anyone have any further suggestions? I'm pretty frustrated--I want to be >> flying, not fixing someone else's mistakes. FWIW, I picked up this wing >> kit in mid-2008. >> >> -Rob >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Thats what they tell me. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com> >>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >>> *Sent:* Fri, January 14, 2011 2:39:50 AM >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Leaking tanks >>> >>> Hard to believe 20 lbs didn't distort/deform/ destroy the tank.... You >>> must be one lucky guy. >>> >>> IMHO. >>> >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> Ben Haas >>> N801BH >>> www.haaspowerair.com >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>> From: Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.com> >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Leaking tanks >>> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:25:29 -0800 (PST) >>> >>> OK I cleaned all the gummy sealant out of the way and did an air test >>> and found it was leaking between the rivets. I thought maybe it was the >>> fitting but after changing them out my conclusion is between the rivets. I >>> put the fittings back in place and put a vacuum on the tank and tried some >>> green loc tite. I am letting it dry over night and then will air test again >>> tomorrow. I might even try some epoxy around the edges of the fitting >>> before air tests. By the way the tanks can take quite a bit of pressure, my >>> plan was around 3 lbs but the valve got kicked and it went up to 20lbs, >>> really made the leaks standout though. The tank came out with no visible >>> problems. After I get the left one one stopped on to the right. Seems >>> there was a problem on the day my tanks were assembled in the >>> Philippines. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> >>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >>> *Sent:* Thu, January 13, 2011 1:21:22 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Leaking tanks >>> >>> One of my QB tanks leaked in exactly the same place (seemed to be >>> leaking between the riveted fitting and the rib). There's no visible >>> proseal in that area, though the proseal on the areas of the tank I can see >>> looks fine (not gummy as you describe). I put the finger strainer in and >>> put new seal around it. Now no air leak in testing, but I haven't filled >>> with fuel yet. >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Bruce Johnson < >>> bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Has anybody else had problems with the quick build tanks leaking. >>>> Mine seem to be leaking around the outlet port. The sealant they used is >>>> turning gummy and it is more of a seep than a leak.I cant believe they used >>>> rivets on that particular piece as there is no way to snug them a >>>> little.Any ideas on how to remedy this? >>>> >>>> * get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ttp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution * >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rob Kochman >>> RV-10 "Finishing" Kit >>> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) >>> http://kochman.net/N819K >>> >>> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Lnics.com/contribution" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.================= >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> tronics.comwww.matronics.com/contribution >>> =========== <http://www.matronics.com/contribution===========> >>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> *Go Back to School* >>> Grant Funding May Be Available to Those Who Qualify >>> <http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3242/4d301a23eacf4bd9370st04vuc> >>> SeeCollegeDegrees.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3242/4d301a23eacf4bd9370st04vuc> >>> >>> *http://www.matronics.com/contributi============= >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> * >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Rob Kochman >> >> RV-10 Flying since March 2011 >> Woodinville, WA >> http://kochman.net/N819K >> >> * >> >> * >> >> >> * >> >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> * >> >> > > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > * > > * > > * > > * > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 09:00:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Leaking tanks
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Hopefully the vacation and the attitude adjustment did the tick. Good luck. Rob Kermanj Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote: > Just to close the loop on this, after pulling the tank and sending it off f or a brief vacation in Aurora, it's back and mounted on the plane. Haven't f lown yet, but it passed the leak test, so hoping my tank problems are behind me. > > -Rob > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote: > Your situation sounds a little worse than mine. I did not smell the fuel. G ood luck. I think van will help you out. > > > Rob Kermanj > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks, guys... Rob, it sounds like we're in a similar situation. We'll s ee what Van's says. I'd be happy with a few leaking rivets, but what I have is not a small leak. It causes blue streaks on the bottom of the wing and a fuel smell in the cockpit (though I only notice it on the ground when the d oors have been closed for a while). >> >> -Rob >> >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote: >> Rob, I had the same problem and chased it for a year. It started with a m inor leak at one of the top rivets and worsened to leaks from the same place s you describe. Van gave me a repair kit and it held for a while but it did not work. I know you probably don't want to hear this; I had to replace t he tank completely. Talk to van and see what they will do for you. >> >> Do not archive. >> >> Rob Kermanj >> >> >> >> On Feb 14, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: >> >>> Resurrecting this thread... I had the same problem on my right quickbuil d tank (leaking not at the outlet fitting, but rather the VA-141 part that t he fitting screws into), which I wrote about here earlier. I ended up goopi ng a bunch of proseal around the fitting and finger strainer, and that stopp ed the leak... at the time. Now I have 100 hours on the airplane and it's l eaking again. >>> >>> Also, on the same tank, I'm always had a fuel vent leak. It must be lea king at the fuel vent line fitting inside the tank, because that part passes the pressure leak test and it only leaks fuel when the fuel level is above t he vent fitting at the wing root. Also, I have confirmed that the end of th e fuel vent line (by the fuel cap) is completely out of the fuel, so it's no t that. >>> >>> Anyone have any further suggestions? I'm pretty frustrated--I want to b e flying, not fixing someone else's mistakes. FWIW, I picked up this wing k it in mid-2008. >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.co m> wrote: >>> Thats what they tell me. >>> >>> From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com> >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 2:39:50 AM >>> >>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Leaking tanks >>> >>> Hard to believe 20 lbs didn't distort/deform/ destroy the tank.... You m ust be one lucky guy. >>> >>> IMHO. >>> >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> Ben Haas >>> N801BH >>> www.haaspowerair.com >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>> From: Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.com> >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Leaking tanks >>> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:25:29 -0800 (PST) >>> >>> >>> OK I cleaned all the gummy sealant out of the way and did an air test an d found it was leaking between the rivets. I thought maybe it was the fittin g but after changing them out my conclusion is between the rivets. I put the fittings back in place and put a vacuum on the tank and tried some green lo c tite. I am letting it dry over night and then will air test again tomorrow . I might even try some epoxy around the edges of the fitting before air tes ts. By the way the tanks can take quite a bit of pressure, my plan was aroun d 3 lbs but the valve got kicked and it went up to 20lbs, really made the le aks standout though. The tank came out with no visible problems. After I get the left one one stopped on to the right. Seems there was a problem on the day my tanks were assembled in the Philippines. >>> >>> From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 1:21:22 PM >>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Leaking tanks >>> >>> One of my QB tanks leaked in exactly the same place (seemed to be leakin g between the riveted fitting and the rib). There's no visible proseal in t hat area, though the proseal on the areas of the tank I can see looks fine ( not gummy as you describe). I put the finger strainer in and put new seal a round it. Now no air leak in testing, but I haven't filled with fuel yet. >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.co m> wrote: >>> Has anybody else had problems with the quick build tanks leaking. Mine s eem to be leaking around the outlet port. The sealant they used is turning g ummy and it is more of a seep than a leak.I cant believe they used rivets on that particular piece as there is no way to snug them a little.Any ideas on how to remedy this? >>> >>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ttp://f orums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rob Kochman >>> RV-10 "Finishing" Kit >>> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) >>> http://kochman.net/N819K >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Lnics.com/contribution" rel=no follow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.=========== ======= >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> >>> tronics.com >>> www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Go Back to School >>> Grant Funding May Be Available to Those Who Qualify >>> SeeCollegeDegrees.com >>> http://www.matronics.com/contributi============= >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rob Kochman >>> >>> RV-10 Flying since March 2011 >>> Woodinville, WA >>> http://kochman.net/N819K >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Rob Kochman >> RV-10 Flying since March 2011 >> Woodinville, WA >> http://kochman.net/N819K >> >> >> >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >




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