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1. 04:52 AM - Re: N541RV phase1 complete (rv10flyer)
2. 05:12 AM - Re: Flap actuation (rv10flyer)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Flap actuation (Jesse Saint)
4. 05:38 AM - Re: Re: Flap actuation (Jesse Saint)
5. 07:45 AM - Re: Inlet rings (Paul Bowmar)
6. 07:45 AM - Re: Flap actuation (curtis groote)
7. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: Flap actuation (Patrick Thyssen)
8. 08:56 AM - Re: Flap actuation (Geoff Combs)
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| Subject: | Re: N541RV phase1 complete |
It is great to really go somewhere, especially with all four seats filled. No crazy
interstate drivers to watch out for while getting 15 mpg. How many kids get
to say my Dad, Mom and Sister picked me up from college in our plane. I know
you are loving that plane as much as I am. Now for some summer trip plans. We
are planning FL and SW US(2 separate trips).
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08
40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 37
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuation |
My Show Planes from Vans has always required two taps down to go from half to full.
I will pull that whole mess out and install a manual switch if I have any
additional faults. One less wire and much simpler to troublehoot or repair. As
for landing and takeoff with or without flaps, it is no problem with a CS prop
and 260 hp. Having a manual switch would not be any more distracting than dealing
with this. It may just be a matter of the micro switch rods not having
the cutouts in the right place at the right time. Anybody troubleshot this problem
yet?
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08
40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 37
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuation |
This is the first email I've read of this thread. Do you really have to
hold the switch down the whole way, or does it just have to be more than
the normal press? I have seen it where you had to hold it down for a
little longer than normal for it to get past the limit switch on the
rod. I know that when using a position sensor, the flap position on the
ground and the position in flight does not match. I assume that is
because on the ground gravity is pulling the flaps as far down as it
can, and in the air the relative wind is pushing the flaps up as far as
it can, so that may have something to do with it.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Mar 19, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Bill Watson wrote:
> I'm having roughly the same problem. Just doing it manually now.
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> Bill
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> On 3/18/2012 6:11 PM, curtis groote wrote:
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>> I have the Van's flap system (reflex, zero degrees, half flaps, full
flaps). A momentary press down on the panel flap switch will take them
down to the next position -- up until a month ago so that now, in
flight, reflex to zero to half is still the same but to go from half to
full flaps I have to press and hold the switch down until full flaps is
achieved. However, on the ground taxiing or at standstill, I don't have
to hold the switch to go from half to full, it'll go with the momentary
press like it always did heretofore. Suggestions anyone?
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuation |
This might be a good time to plug Vertical Power. With the VP-200 you set 4 total
positions and have a sensor for location. You can click the switch down 3 times
and it will go down all the way. Click twice to go down 2 "notches". Click
up once to go all the way up. Very nice to work with.
I have not affiliation with VP. I just really like flying with their equipment.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
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On Mar 19, 2012, at 8:11 AM, "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@gmail.com> wrote:
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> My Show Planes from Vans has always required two taps down to go from half to
full. I will pull that whole mess out and install a manual switch if I have any
additional faults. One less wire and much simpler to troublehoot or repair.
As for landing and takeoff with or without flaps, it is no problem with a CS
prop and 260 hp. Having a manual switch would not be any more distracting than
dealing with this. It may just be a matter of the micro switch rods not having
the cutouts in the right place at the right time. Anybody troubleshot this problem
yet?
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> Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08
> 40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
> N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 37
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Eric, Are you familiar with the inlet rings Alan Bickle was marketing through Airflow Technologies? He didn't get enough interest to carry on, but I made the rings for him. If you want some, I could make a run. Contact me offline or at Plane Innovations LLC. (435) 826-4662 www.planeinnovations.com
Paul Bowmar
On Mar 18, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric_Kallio wrote:
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> In the eternal quest to make the Sam James cowl functional I am on the hunt for
some inlet rings. Looking to increase the inlet area so ideally a 5.5" diameter
ring would work, but I am willing to try up to a 6" ring. Anyone out there
have a production run with a spare set leftover they might be willing to part
with? PM or email me at scout019(at)msn.com if you have some or know where they
might be procured. Thanks.
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> Eric Kallio
> N518RV
> Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuation |
Yup. -Have to hold the switch down the whole way or the flaps stop moveme
nt on release.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Jesse Sain
t <jesse@saintaviation.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday,
March 19, 2012 6:11 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Flap actuation=0A =0A=0AT
his is the first email I've read of this thread. Do you really have to hold
the switch down the whole way, or does it just have to be more than the no
rmal press? I have seen it where you had to hold it down for a little longe
r than normal for it to get past the limit switch on the rod. I know that w
hen using a position sensor, the flap position on the ground and the positi
on in flight does not match. I assume that is because on the ground gravity
is pulling the flaps as far down as it can, and in the air the relative wi
nd is pushing the flaps up as far as it can, so that may have something to
do with it.=0A=0A=0AJesse Saint=0ASaint Aviation, Inc.=0Ajesse@saintaviatio
n.com=0AC: 352-427-0285=0AF: 815-377-3694 =0A=0AOn Mar 19, 2012, at 12:57 A
M, Bill Watson wrote:=0A=0AI'm having roughly the same problem.- Just doi
ng it manually now.=0A>=0A>Bill=0A>=0A>On 3/18/2012 6:11 PM, curtis groote
wrote: =0A>I have the Van's flap system (reflex, zero degrees, half flaps,
full flaps). -A momentary press down on the panel flap switch will take t
hem down to the next position -- up until a month ago so that now, in fligh
t, reflex to zero to half is still the same but to go from half to full fla
ps I have to press and hold the switch down until full flaps is achieved.
-However, on the ground taxiing or at standstill, I don't have to hold th
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuation |
Yes two of us here had that problem of flaps working in air but not on grou
nd.Little pressures on the flaps on ground and they would start moving agai
n.After I figured out what was happening I sent mine back and they fixed it
and sent two more washers to keep the actuator from rotating so far and we
aring away at the guide holes. Had nothing to do with too much grease.
That seems to have fixed the problem. for both of ours. And yes its one Hit
down to get neutral the second is half flap and third is full flaps. Alll
this was happening around 150 -200 hrs.
Patrick Thyssen N15PT
407 hrs.
--- On Mon, 3/19/12, rv10flyer <wayne.gillispie@gmail.com> wrote:
From: rv10flyer <wayne.gillispie@gmail.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flap actuation
My Show Planes from Vans has always required two taps down to go from half
to full. I will pull that whole mess out and install a manual switch if I h
ave any additional faults. One less wire and much simpler to troublehoot or
repair. As for landing and takeoff with or without flaps, it is no problem
with a CS prop and 260 hp. Having a manual switch would not be any more di
stracting than dealing with this. It may just be a matter of the micro swit
ch rods not having the cutouts in the right place at the right time. Anybod
y troubleshot this problem yet?
--------
Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08
40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 37
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368873#368873
le, List Admin.
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The problem is that your actuator pivots a slight bit when you are putting
the flaps down and because the 1/8' sensor rod with notches is worn now
the twist that happens when the air flow is hitting the flaps when flying
makes it react differently then just sitting. You will need to get into your
tunnel area and re-adjust the sensor unit which mounts to the flap motor.
This is a problem with the Show planes unit after a while. Operate your
flaps and watch how the unit twist and you will see it. You need to stop the
the flap rod end from rotating so much.
Geoff
Geoff Combs
Aerosport Modeling & Design
www.aerosportmodeling.com
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of curtis groote
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flap actuation
Yup. Have to hold the switch down the whole way or the flaps stop movement
on release.
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From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flap actuation
This is the first email I've read of this thread. Do you really have to hold
the switch down the whole way, or does it just have to be more than the
normal press? I have seen it where you had to hold it down for a little
longer than normal for it to get past the limit switch on the rod. I know
that when using a position sensor, the flap position on the ground and the
position in flight does not match. I assume that is because on the ground
gravity is pulling the flaps as far down as it can, and in the air the
relative wind is pushing the flaps up as far as it can, so that may have
something to do with it.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Mar 19, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Bill Watson wrote:
I'm having roughly the same problem. Just doing it manually now.
Bill
On 3/18/2012 6:11 PM, curtis groote wrote:
I have the Van's flap system (reflex, zero degrees, half flaps, full flaps).
A momentary press down on the panel flap switch will take them down to the
next position -- up until a month ago so that now, in flight, reflex to zero
to half is still the same but to go from half to full flaps I have to press
and hold the switch down until full flaps is achieved. However, on the
ground taxiing or at standstill, I don't have to hold the switch to go from
half to full, it'll go with the momentary press like it always did
heretofore. Suggestions anyone?
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