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1. 08:13 AM - Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Bill Watson)
2. 08:29 AM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Dave Saylor)
3. 08:29 AM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Tim Olson)
4. 08:41 AM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Tim Olson)
5. 08:41 AM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Rob Kermanj)
6. 08:49 AM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Tim Olson)
7. 09:10 AM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Dave Saylor)
8. 09:56 AM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Dave Saylor)
9. 10:52 AM - Furnace Creek L06 (DLM)
10. 11:10 AM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Bill Watson)
11. 11:57 AM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Rob Kochman)
12. 01:07 PM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Rob Kermanj)
13. 02:51 PM - First long cross country (David Leikam)
14. 03:26 PM - Re: First long cross country (Dave Saylor)
15. 03:47 PM - Corrugated Tube Question (David J. Fritzsche)
16. 04:15 PM - Re: Corrugated Tube Question (Carl Froehlich)
17. 04:28 PM - Re: Corrugated Tube Question (Seano)
18. 06:16 PM - Re: flap actuation (curtis groote)
19. 06:25 PM - Re: First long cross country (curtis groote)
20. 08:35 PM - Re: Furnace Creek L06 (rv10flyer)
21. 10:28 PM - Re: First long cross country (Albert Gardner)
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| Subject: | Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
I've just physically installed my Navworx ADS-B box and now need to
configure it.
Neither of my laptops have the required Com port. Short of transporting
an old tower system down to the hangar, has anyone used a USB - Com port
adaptor? Price?
I've started researching it but if anyone has some experience to
share... please do.
Bill Watson
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
Similar problem here--I have to borrow back an old laptop from my daughter
to do the updates--it's the only windows laptop in the house. I use a USB
adapter from Staples. There's no P/N on it, and it actually has the
Staples logo engraved in the plastic shell. It works fine.
Sure would be nice to have an app for that...
--Dave Saylor
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I've just physically installed my Navworx ADS-B box and now need to
> configure it.
>
> Neither of my laptops have the required Com port. Short of transporting
> an old tower system down to the hangar, has anyone used a USB - Com port
> adaptor? Price?
>
> I've started researching it but if anyone has some experience to share...
> please do.
>
> Bill Watson
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
Yes, they work fine most of the time.
I've used Belkin ones with luck, and some cheap
Chinese ones I bought on Ebay I think with
"prolific" chipsets that worked too. If you're
in a hurry I'd buy one locally and pay maybe $20-30
and get a good one. If you just want spares and
want to have something sitting around, you can get
them for maybe $2-3 on Ebay I think.
Tim
On 3/20/2012 10:12 AM, Bill Watson wrote:
>
> I've just physically installed my Navworx ADS-B box and now need to
> configure it.
>
> Neither of my laptops have the required Com port. Short of transporting
> an old tower system down to the hangar, has anyone used a USB - Com port
> adaptor? Price?
>
> I've started researching it but if anyone has some experience to
> share... please do.
>
> Bill Watson
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
An app would just require even more software to run on the
device, and that could lead to more issues with FAA
certification, and more delays in getting the config
interface working when they tweak software.
While serial configuration is old technology, on a
screenless box like that, it's actually perfect for
keeping low overhead. It just isn't as nice that laptops
dropped support for Serial ports. I configure
things all day long at work using serial ports to get
them running on the network. I actually far prefer
command-line text configuration to all the stupid
web interfaces out there these days.
Tim
On 3/20/2012 10:27 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> Similar problem here--I have to borrow back an old laptop from my
> daughter to do the updates--it's the only windows laptop in the house.
> I use a USB adapter from Staples. There's no P/N on it, and it actually
> has the Staples logo engraved in the plastic shell. It works fine.
>
> Sure would be nice to have an app for that...
>
> --Dave Saylor
>
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
Navwox remotely connected to my computer and performed the set up. I had similar
issues and don't remember how he got around the port stuff.
He also said that he will be forwarding a beta program that will play well with
the box. That was a few months ago. My calls for the software have not resulted
in anything so I have given up until I am face to face at sun/ fun.
Do not archive.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I've just physically installed my Navworx ADS-B box and now need to configure
it.
>
> Neither of my laptops have the required Com port. Short of transporting an old
tower system down to the hangar, has anyone used a USB - Com port adaptor?
Price?
>
> I've started researching it but if anyone has some experience to share... please
do.
>
> Bill Watson
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
Remembering back to something you and I talked about before
Dave, you're right on one thing...what would be nice is to
find a wi-fi/bluetooth type box you could plug in to the
serial port and configure wirelessly from an iPad. That
would be cool.
I use an iPad a lot to configure network devices using
telnet and ssh, so it would be easy to do if the box could
handle telnet. I know they are out there, too....I just
don't have one. Then you could use an app like "iSSH" on
the ipad to configure the navworx.
FWIW, at work I ordered a bunch of ethernet to
serial devices so we could remotely configure network
devices at other sites. Something like that would work,
but you wouldn't want to spend the money we spent on them.
Tim
On 3/20/2012 10:27 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> Similar problem here--I have to borrow back an old laptop from my
> daughter to do the updates--it's the only windows laptop in the house.
> I use a USB adapter from Staples. There's no P/N on it, and it actually
> has the Staples logo engraved in the plastic shell. It works fine.
>
> Sure would be nice to have an app for that...
>
> --Dave Saylor
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
Rob,
Bill sent me a link to 3.10.0 on Feb 27. I'm not sure if just forwarding
the link will work, but here it is:
https://rcpt.yousendit.com/1392889324/ba70bb6639d6336cf1592704f80a3bb6
He didn't say anything about it being beta. It resolved an altitude
display issue we were having. So far, so good.
--Dave Saylor
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Navwox remotely connected to my computer and performed the set up. I had
> similar issues and don't remember how he got around the port stuff.
>
> He also said that he will be forwarding a beta program that will play well
> with the box. That was a few months ago. My calls for the software have not
> resulted in anything so I have given up until I am face to face at sun/ fun.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Rob Kermanj
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've just physically installed my Navworx ADS-B box and now need to
> configure it.
> >
> > Neither of my laptops have the required Com port. Short of transporting
> an old tower system down to the hangar, has anyone used a USB - Com port
> adaptor? Price?
> >
> > I've started researching it but if anyone has some experience to
> share... please do.
> >
> > Bill Watson
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
How big is your lunchbox? ;-)
do not archive
--Dave "employee" Saylor
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Remembering back to something you and I talked about before
> Dave, you're right on one thing...what would be nice is to
> find a wi-fi/bluetooth type box you could plug in to the
> serial port and configure wirelessly from an iPad. That
> would be cool.
>
> I use an iPad a lot to configure network devices using
> telnet and ssh, so it would be easy to do if the box could
> handle telnet. I know they are out there, too....I just
> don't have one. Then you could use an app like "iSSH" on
> the ipad to configure the navworx.
>
> FWIW, at work I ordered a bunch of ethernet to
> serial devices so we could remotely configure network
> devices at other sites. Something like that would work,
> but you wouldn't want to spend the money we spent on them.
>
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 3/20/2012 10:27 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
>
>> Similar problem here--I have to borrow back an old laptop from my
>> daughter to do the updates--it's the only windows laptop in the house.
>> I use a USB adapter from Staples. There's no P/N on it, and it actually
>> has the Staples logo engraved in the plastic shell. It works fine.
>>
>> Sure would be nice to have an app for that...
>>
>> --Dave Saylor
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Furnace Creek L06 |
The airport is on the NW corner of a spring fed oasis on the East end of
Death Valley National Park. Airnav is accurate regards non availability
of
fuel and tiedowns. The runway was originally much longer but is now
overgrown with numerous obstacles on the north end; otherwise smooth and
wide. To enter the valley you will be at least 6000 MSL; my last APRS
hit
was at 5690 MSL about 5 miles from the field. Since the field is at -210
MSL
there will be circling to land and after takeoff. I landed on 15 per the
wind T to almost calm winds. About two days later I went back to the
airport
and moved the aircraft behind a small stand of dense trees that
sheltered
it. For about 48 hours the winds in the valley were 30 KTS with gust to
50
KTS. The aircraft was secured with =BD=94 nylon ropes to steel wires
that
transverse the pavement. In addition I had a pitot cover, belt tied
controls
and significant rudder lock and aileron lock. After the first night of
blow,
I wondered whether the aircraft would still be there. I walked to the
airport and there was no damage. In fact the wind behind the small tree
stand was almost non existent. I left it there for another night as
there
was no escape from the valley via flight. By Sunday morning the winds
were
again less than 10KTS. Surprisingly even during the big blow, the stars
ere
outstanding; a sky full. There has been little rain there so far, about
.03
inches since December; hence the wild flowers were non existent. There
are
two nice places to stay (hotels) and several places to eat, also
expensive.
Several campgrounds within walking distance of Furnace Creek Ranch. All
in
all an interesting history of a desert which was occupied 80 years ago
by
miners and other fortune hunters.
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
Bill said there is a "UAT Console" program that now includes the current
level of software or will include the current level. Sounds like the
intent is to supply new releases integrated with a console program so
you kind of get the latest of both anytime you update.
The release he sent me on Mar 12 was 3.10.1.
I went out an bought a cable at RadioShack for $40.... not sure I want
to open it yet for that price. Amazon has a number of selections under
$20 and I can wait a few days. We'll see.
Bill
On 3/20/2012 12:06 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> Rob,
>
> Bill sent me a link to 3.10.0 on Feb 27. I'm not sure if just
> forwarding the link will work, but here it is:
>
> https://rcpt.yousendit.com/1392889324/ba70bb6639d6336cf1592704f80a3bb6
>
> He didn't say anything about it being beta. It resolved an altitude
> display issue we were having. So far, so good.
>
> --Dave Saylor
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
For a cable, you can also find someone with an "old" Dynon system, since
those are serial-only, too.
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Bill said there is a "UAT Console" program that now includes the current
> level of software or will include the current level. Sounds like the
> intent is to supply new releases integrated with a console program so you
> kind of get the latest of both anytime you update.
>
> The release he sent me on Mar 12 was 3.10.1.
>
> I went out an bought a cable at RadioShack for $40.... not sure I want to
> open it yet for that price. Amazon has a number of selections under $20
> and I can wait a few days. We'll see.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 3/20/2012 12:06 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
>
> Rob,
>
> Bill sent me a link to 3.10.0 on Feb 27. I'm not sure if just forwarding
> the link will work, but here it is:
>
> https://rcpt.yousendit.com/1392889324/ba70bb6639d6336cf1592704f80a3bb6
>
> He didn't say anything about it being beta. It resolved an altitude
> display issue we were having. So far, so good.
>
> --Dave Saylor
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? |
Thanks Dave. I had a pressure altitude issue also when he offered the beta s
oftware. I will try the link.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Rob,
>
> Bill sent me a link to 3.10.0 on Feb 27. I'm not sure if just forwarding t
he link will work, but here it is:
>
> https://rcpt.yousendit.com/1392889324/ba70bb6639d6336cf1592704f80a3bb6
>
> He didn't say anything about it being beta. It resolved an altitude displ
ay issue we were having. So far, so good.
>
> --Dave Saylor
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Navwox remotely connected to my computer and performed the set up. I had s
imilar issues and don't remember how he got around the port stuff.
>
> He also said that he will be forwarding a beta program that will play well
with the box. That was a few months ago. My calls for the software have not
resulted in anything so I have given up until I am face to face at sun/ fun
.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Rob Kermanj
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've just physically installed my Navworx ADS-B box and now need to conf
igure it.
> >
> > Neither of my laptops have the required Com port. Short of transporting
an old tower system down to the hangar, has anyone used a USB - Com port ad
aptor? Price?
> >
> > I've started researching it but if anyone has some experience to share..
. please do.
> >
> > Bill Watson
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | First long cross country |
My son and I are taking the plane from KUES (Waukesha WI) to KSEZ (Sedona) next
week on our first long cross country. We plan to make a fuel stop somewhere
in KS. Then fly southward to Santa Fe. Then on to Sedona, trying to avoid the
really high country.
Also, does anyone have any experience with Spot PLB's?
Any advice or airport recommendations would be appreciated!
Thanks!
Dave Leikam
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: First long cross country |
We have one of the first generation SPOTs. Works great, at least for fun!
We don't use the bread crumb feature, just the You Are Here version. It's
very accurate, to within a few feet. Also, ours uses lithium batteries
which are a little harder to find so we keep an extra set.
--Dave Saylor
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:50 PM, David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My son and I are taking the plane from KUES (Waukesha WI) to KSEZ (Sedona)
> next week on our first long cross country. We plan to make a fuel stop
> somewhere in KS. Then fly southward to Santa Fe. Then on to Sedona,
> trying to avoid the really high country.
>
> Also, does anyone have any experience with Spot PLB's?
>
> Any advice or airport recommendations would be appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dave Leikam
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Corrugated Tube Question |
I am using Van's corrugated tube in my wings to protect my wiring. I
need to cut holes for the pitot wire and the landing light wires. Is
that normally done with a soldering iron to poke the hole? And should
you insert a rubber grommet to protect the wire through the hole?
Dave
--
Dave Fritzsche
Professor, Retired
Penn State
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| Subject: | Corrugated Tube Question |
In the 8A I cut a hole I the corrugated tubing to run those wires. After
you finish the wire run use some silicon seal around the hole/wires to
eliminate relative motion - protecting the wires.
For the 10 I used Lowes polyurethane water line tubing for the wire runs.
The tubing is a snug fit in 3/4" holes, very sturdy but light weight, and
big enough for all the wires and even a coax run to the wingtip VOR antenna.
I simply have a 2" or so space where there is not tubing for things such as
pitot heat, auto pilot, and aileron trim.
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David J.
Fritzsche
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:45 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Corrugated Tube Question
I am using Van's corrugated tube in my wings to protect my wiring. I
need to cut holes for the pitot wire and the landing light wires. Is
that normally done with a soldering iron to poke the hole? And should
you insert a rubber grommet to protect the wire through the hole?
Dave
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Professor, Retired
Penn State
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| Subject: | Re: Corrugated Tube Question |
Soldering iron worked great for me. It kind of curls the plastic so I
didn't use grommets or at least I thought they weren't required. I think
the conduit is soft enough not to cut into the wiring insulation.
Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: "David J. Fritzsche" <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:45 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Corrugated Tube Question
> <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
>
> I am using Van's corrugated tube in my wings to protect my wiring. I need
> to cut holes for the pitot wire and the landing light wires. Is that
> normally done with a soldering iron to poke the hole? And should you
> insert a rubber grommet to protect the wire through the hole?
>
> Dave
>
> --
>
> Dave Fritzsche
> Professor, Retired
> Penn State
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flap actuation |
Thanks for the responses. -A great help.
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| Subject: | Re: First long cross country |
I got the original SPOT when it was introduced at Oshkosh a few years ago a
nd then last year got the newer and present one. -The latter eliminates a
step going from location notification to tracking. -It's worked very nic
ely for us. -Before upgrading I was toying with the idea of letting it go
but my wife asked me to continue. -She likes knowing when I go up and wh
en I get back. -My son likes to know where I'm going on the tracking feat
ure. -All in all, I think it's a neat unit and recommend it.=0A=0A=0A____
____________________________=0A From: David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com>=0AT
o: RV-10 matronics <rv10-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tuesday, March 20, 20
12 3:50 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: First long cross country=0A =0A--> RV10-Li
st message posted by: David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com>=0A=0AMy son and I a
re taking the plane from KUES (Waukesha WI) to KSEZ (Sedona) next week on o
ur first long cross country.- We plan to make a fuel stop somewhere in KS
.- Then fly southward to Santa Fe.- Then on to Sedona, trying to avoid
the really high country.=0A=0AAlso, does anyone have any experience with Sp
ot PLB's?=0A=0AAny advice or airport recommendations would be appreciated!
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| Subject: | Re: Furnace Creek L06 |
Thanks for the nice write-up. Hope more continue to do this, as it helps us low
timers. We will be taking our first 200 nm+ trips this summer.
--------
Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08
40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 37
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| Subject: | First long cross country |
For those newly flying, don't ignore the Amateur Radio tracking system or
Amateur Position Reporting System (APRS). It uses a small, inexpensive 2
meter burst transmitter, a web site http://aprs.fi and has no fees for
usage. You are required to have a Ham License but they are not difficult to
study for and obtain. My transmitter is one of the early one costing about
$300 but later ones are less than $200 and there are portable models. After
the transmitter is programmed with your call sign and optionally, your tail
number, it will automatically transmit at pre-selected intervals on the 2
meter amateur band. Other ham operators will pick it up and-in most areas of
the US-put it on the internet where it can be viewed in real time at aprs.fi
superimposed on a map. Each dot that makes up the track shows altitude,
heading, speed, lat/long. Benefits are no cost and anyone with your call
sign can follow your track. Drawbacks are spotty coverage in some areas and
anyone with your call sign can follow your track. My transmitter is
controlled by a panel switch so it only works when I want it to. Check out
http://www.byonics.com/microtrak/ for equipment and prices. He will also
pre-program your transmitter for you if desired. I have used it flying in
all of the lower 48 and found very few holes in coverage.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
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