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Wed 03/21/12


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 05:27 AM - Re: Corrugated Tube Question (johngoodman)
     2. 07:12 AM - Brake Pads? (Jim Combs)
     3. 07:29 AM - Re: Brake Pads? (Tim Olson)
     4. 07:38 AM - Re: Brake Pads? (Preid)
     5. 08:32 AM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Kevin O'Shea)
     6. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: Flap actuation (Bill Watson)
     7. 12:02 PM - APRS (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     8. 01:53 PM - Re: APRS (Tim Olson)
     9. 04:05 PM - Re: APRS (DLM)
    10. 11:12 PM - Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters? (Lenny Iszak)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:27:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corrugated Tube Question
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    I just cut a slit in it to fish out the wire, but I'm sure the soldering iron will work as well. If you ever want to buy it in different sizes or colors, you'll find it on the web as "Convoluted Nylon Tubing", or "Nylon Wire Loom." Here is a web site of a major manufacturer of it: http://www.taylorvertex.com/Products/index.cgi/bulkTubing John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369042#369042


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    Time: 07:12:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Brake Pads?
    From: Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com>
    I am looking for a supplier of brake pads for the -10. I have rivets and the rivet tool to set them. Anyone got a good supplier they could recommend or not? Jim Combs (N312F - 350 hours)


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    Time: 07:29:38 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Brake Pads?
    Desser Tire http://vansaircrafttires.com/ Skygeek.com Aircraft Spruce Van's I've bought from them all. Desser has the Rapco pads. For the Cleveland's you'd go to the other places. Tim On 3/21/2012 9:08 AM, Jim Combs wrote: > I am looking for a supplier of brake pads for the -10. I have rivets > and the rivet tool to set them. > > Anyone got a good supplier they could recommend or not? > > Jim Combs (N312F - 350 hours) >


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    Time: 07:38:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brake Pads?
    From: Preid <Rv10flyer@verizon.net>
    Desser has a RV-10 specific page. They sell pads, rapco I believe. On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:08 AM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com> wrote: > I am looking for a supplier of brake pads for the -10. I have rivets > and the rivet tool to set them. > > Anyone got a good supplier they could recommend or not? > > Jim Combs (N312F - 350 hours) > > > >


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    Time: 08:32:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters?
    From: "Kevin O'Shea" <kevino@worldwarehouse.com>
    I had the UAT console shipped with the navworx in Jan. Install was very straight forward. Just loaded on a netbook.


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    Time: 10:28:13 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Flap actuation
    Wayne, I haven't done anything yet but I did talk to someone at Showplanes and they described a fix involving two washers similar to what Patrick mentioned previously. My problem has been the gradual degradation of the flap detent function. It has required 2 or more clicks to get to half or full in flight and on the ground. Sometime over the next 2 or 3 months I will open up the tunnel, see if I can understand what is going on and try to apply the 2 washer fix if it makes sense. I'll share my experience here afterwards. Bill "almost ADS-B'd" Watson On 3/19/2012 8:11 AM, rv10flyer wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "rv10flyer"<wayne.gillispie@gmail.com> > > My Show Planes from Vans has always required two taps down to go from half to full. I will pull that whole mess out and install a manual switch if I have any additional faults. One less wire and much simpler to troublehoot or repair. As for landing and takeoff with or without flaps, it is no problem with a CS prop and 260 hp. Having a manual switch would not be any more distracting than dealing with this. It may just be a matter of the micro switch rods not having the cutouts in the right place at the right time. Anybody troubleshot this problem yet? > > -------- > Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 05/93 PP 10/08 > 40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011 > N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 37 > >


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    Time: 12:02:31 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: APRS
    Lots of info on aviation use here: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104 Michael From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:28 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First long cross country For those newly flying, don't ignore the Amateur Radio tracking system or A mateur Position Reporting System (APRS). It uses a small, inexpensive 2 met er burst transmitter, a web site http://aprs.fi and has no fees for usage. You are required to have a Ham License but they are not difficult to study for and obtain. My transmitter is one of the early one costing about $300 b ut later ones are less than $200 and there are portable models. After the t ransmitter is programmed with your call sign and optionally, your tail numb er, it will automatically transmit at pre-selected intervals on the 2 meter amateur band. Other ham operators will pick it up and-in most areas of the US-put it on the internet where it can be viewed in real time at aprs.fi s uperimposed on a map. Each dot that makes up the track shows altitude, head ing, speed, lat/long. Benefits are no cost and anyone with your call sign c an follow your track. Drawbacks are spotty coverage in some areas and anyon e with your call sign can follow your track. My transmitter is controlled b y a panel switch so it only works when I want it to. Check out http://www.b yonics.com/microtrak/ for equipment and prices. He will also pre-program yo ur transmitter for you if desired. I have used it flying in all of the lowe r 48 and found very few holes in coverage. Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 01:53:20 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: APRS
    I'd have to agree with Albert. Don't pass up checking out APRS. There's not a lot of work to go into it to get it working on your plane, and in the long run it is the cheapest AND the best resolution method to go with for most people, if your friends and family want to track you. I actually own all 3 methods of tracking or position finding: (4 if you count ELT) 1) 406Mhz GPS integrated PLB 2) APRS GPS Tracker 3) SPOT Connect messenger 4) 406 Mhz GPS integrated ELT Of these, nothing compares to the track you'll get with APRS. You can set the interval down to 1-2 minutes and get a nice smooth track, or, in the config options, it will automatically send your position info if you vary in heading by X degrees, and repeat at a faster interval. This gives a really good smooth track on many turns. You can see altitude and speed and all that good stuff too. Makes it fun to have people watch and see when you're doing 250kts in a tailwind. Also, because it's a free, no-subscription, no-batteries service, you can get one and have years and years of tracking and not be forking over money all the time. The SPOT Connect does work, just like any SPOT does, and I do have the tracking option. It gives a pretty crude track because it only updates every 10 minutes. Even if you force an update, it won't update at fast intervals. That is an annoying feature but they do it to save satellite bandwidth. With the SPOT connect, you can at least send text email messages (very small ones), which is kind of nice. But, I find that it's not a service I'd use much. It has it's place though. The message packs aren't dirt cheap for custom messages, so rather than keep paying fees (I think I pay $150/yr?), I just don't use it for messaging much. Where it *is* nice, is that it gives you a tracker to use while off the 48 continental states. You can get a ways off the coast with APRS, but only about TO the islands of the Bahamas. Once further, you can't be tracked on APRS. I bought one just for the Bahamas trip and a planned Alaska trip. Other than that, I really could do without it. I've been bouncing around the idea of renting it out for a nominal fee, just to cut the wasted cost...since I only need it maybe 1-2 weeks in a year. It would be the first item I'd skip, if push comes to shove. APRS would be hard to give up. I am NOT a fan of subscription fees...we pay far too much for navdata and cellphones, and internet, and TV and all the other things to have one more thing to pay for. The SPOT can make a good search/recovery tool, but I'd argue that while it is good, if you're just looking to be rescued you'd probably do better with a PLB. Even the Lithium battery costs will add up over time. The 406Mhz PLB is the actual NOAA registered location device that I think would be my last to give up. It's the one thing that you know will be searched for if you're alive and on foot after a crash. They're great for boats, for planes, and other travels too. A SPOT could be useful as well, but at least with a PLB you don't pay annual fees. You only have to worry about the 5 year battery replacement. You know though, that if you push the button, they'll come looking. The 406Mhz ELT really just adds the benefit of something that will automatically work if you crash. I think it's a good idea to have one, but throw in a handheld PLB and you're really in good shape to get found if you're lost. No sense not putting in a 406 anymore, if you plan on traveling outside the 48. If it sounds like I'm anti-SPOT, I'm not. I really think it's a nice thing. If I could hardwire the power, and it had a remote antenna, I'd even be happier. I just dislike subscription fees, and I think the quality of your track is so much nicer with APRS that you should really look at your goal. If you want to be tracked, APRS is fantastic. If you want to be found, the 406 Mhz products are great. The SPOT is just a compromise between both of them....not perfect for either but does both fairly well....at a price. Tim On 3/21/2012 12:44 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > Lots of info on aviation use here: > > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104 > > Michael > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Albert > Gardner *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:28 AM *To:* > rv10-list@matronics.com *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: First long cross > country > > For those newly flying, dont ignore the Amateur Radio tracking > system or Amateur Position Reporting System (APRS). It uses a small, > inexpensive 2 meter burst transmitter, a web sitehttp://aprs.fi and > has no fees for usage. You are required to have a Ham License but > they are not difficult to study for and obtain. My transmitter is one > of the early one costing about $300 but later ones are less than $200 > and there are portable models. After the transmitter is programmed > with your call sign and optionally, your tail number, it will > automatically transmit at pre-selected intervals on the 2 meter > amateur band. Other ham operators will pick it up andin most areas > of the USput it on the internet where it can be viewed in real time > at aprs.fi superimposed on a map. Each dot that makes up the track > shows altitude, heading, speed, lat/long. Benefits are no cost and > anyone with your call sign can follow your track. Drawbacks are > spotty coverage in some areas and anyone with your call sign can > follow your track. My transmitter is controlled by a panel switch so > it only works when I want it to. Check > outhttp://www.byonics.com/microtrak/ for equipment and prices. He > will also pre-program your transmitter for you if desired. I have > used it flying in all of the lower 48 and found very few holes in > coverage. > > Albert Gardner > > N991RV > > Yuma, AZ > > * *


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    Time: 04:05:36 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: APRS
    The only advantage I see to SPOT is that you can pay extra per year if you travel in countries that do not have organized SAR. If you go missing they will pay for a private SAR. I use APRS, Flight Aware, PLBs and 121.5 ELT. I think that SPOT would work even for international airline travel. Imagine a SAR effort in central Africa? Or Egypt? Or current Libya? BTW, there are areas of the US where APRS coverage is non existent at low altitudes. For example, my last APRS hit was 5690 MSL about five miles SE of L06 (elevation -210) on the flight into L06. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: APRS I'd have to agree with Albert. Don't pass up checking out APRS. There's not a lot of work to go into it to get it working on your plane, and in the long run it is the cheapest AND the best resolution method to go with for most people, if your friends and family want to track you. I actually own all 3 methods of tracking or position finding: (4 if you count ELT) 1) 406Mhz GPS integrated PLB 2) APRS GPS Tracker 3) SPOT Connect messenger 4) 406 Mhz GPS integrated ELT Of these, nothing compares to the track you'll get with APRS. You can set the interval down to 1-2 minutes and get a nice smooth track, or, in the config options, it will automatically send your position info if you vary in heading by X degrees, and repeat at a faster interval. This gives a really good smooth track on many turns. You can see altitude and speed and all that good stuff too. Makes it fun to have people watch and see when you're doing 250kts in a tailwind. Also, because it's a free, no-subscription, no-batteries service, you can get one and have years and years of tracking and not be forking over money all the time. The SPOT Connect does work, just like any SPOT does, and I do have the tracking option. It gives a pretty crude track because it only updates every 10 minutes. Even if you force an update, it won't update at fast intervals. That is an annoying feature but they do it to save satellite bandwidth. With the SPOT connect, you can at least send text email messages (very small ones), which is kind of nice. But, I find that it's not a service I'd use much. It has it's place though. The message packs aren't dirt cheap for custom messages, so rather than keep paying fees (I think I pay $150/yr?), I just don't use it for messaging much. Where it *is* nice, is that it gives you a tracker to use while off the 48 continental states. You can get a ways off the coast with APRS, but only about TO the islands of the Bahamas. Once further, you can't be tracked on APRS. I bought one just for the Bahamas trip and a planned Alaska trip. Other than that, I really could do without it. I've been bouncing around the idea of renting it out for a nominal fee, just to cut the wasted cost...since I only need it maybe 1-2 weeks in a year. It would be the first item I'd skip, if push comes to shove. APRS would be hard to give up. I am NOT a fan of subscription fees...we pay far too much for navdata and cellphones, and internet, and TV and all the other things to have one more thing to pay for. The SPOT can make a good search/recovery tool, but I'd argue that while it is good, if you're just looking to be rescued you'd probably do better with a PLB. Even the Lithium battery costs will add up over time. The 406Mhz PLB is the actual NOAA registered location device that I think would be my last to give up. It's the one thing that you know will be searched for if you're alive and on foot after a crash. They're great for boats, for planes, and other travels too. A SPOT could be useful as well, but at least with a PLB you don't pay annual fees. You only have to worry about the 5 year battery replacement. You know though, that if you push the button, they'll come looking. The 406Mhz ELT really just adds the benefit of something that will automatically work if you crash. I think it's a good idea to have one, but throw in a handheld PLB and you're really in good shape to get found if you're lost. No sense not putting in a 406 anymore, if you plan on traveling outside the 48. If it sounds like I'm anti-SPOT, I'm not. I really think it's a nice thing. If I could hardwire the power, and it had a remote antenna, I'd even be happier. I just dislike subscription fees, and I think the quality of your track is so much nicer with APRS that you should really look at your goal. If you want to be tracked, APRS is fantastic. If you want to be found, the 406 Mhz products are great. The SPOT is just a compromise between both of them....not perfect for either but does both fairly well....at a price. Tim On 3/21/2012 12:44 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > Lots of info on aviation use here: > > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104 > > Michael > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Albert > Gardner *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:28 AM *To:* > rv10-list@matronics.com *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: First long cross > country > > For those newly flying, don't ignore the Amateur Radio tracking > system or Amateur Position Reporting System (APRS). It uses a small, > inexpensive 2 meter burst transmitter, a web sitehttp://aprs.fi and > has no fees for usage. You are required to have a Ham License but > they are not difficult to study for and obtain. My transmitter is one > of the early one costing about $300 but later ones are less than $200 > and there are portable models. After the transmitter is programmed > with your call sign and optionally, your tail number, it will > automatically transmit at pre-selected intervals on the 2 meter > amateur band. Other ham operators will pick it up and-in most areas > of the US-put it on the internet where it can be viewed in real time > at aprs.fi superimposed on a map. Each dot that makes up the track > shows altitude, heading, speed, lat/long. Benefits are no cost and > anyone with your call sign can follow your track. Drawbacks are > spotty coverage in some areas and anyone with your call sign can > follow your track. My transmitter is controlled by a panel switch so > it only works when I want it to. Check > outhttp://www.byonics.com/microtrak/ for equipment and prices. He > will also pre-program your transmitter for you if desired. I have > used it flying in all of the lower 48 and found very few holes in > coverage. > > Albert Gardner > > N991RV > > Yuma, AZ > > * *


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    Time: 11:12:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Navworx maintenance terminal - USB - Com Port adapters?
    From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    I have this cheap chinese USB to serial adapter from ebay: USB to RS232 Serial DB9 COM Cable Adapter HL340 Z http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-to-RS232-Serial-DB9-COM-Cable-Adapter-HL340-Z-/160506203551?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255eea4d9f#ht_3251wt_1396 It says HL-340 on it. It works fine with the NavWorx box, or any other rs232 device. Windows 7 also installs drivers for it automatically, no driver CD needed. I also have an IoGear GBS301 rs232 to bluetooth adapter. I never tried it with the NavWorx box, but i don't see why it wouldn't work as it works with most serial devices i have tried. Used a windows laptop though, not an iPad. It's probably easier to just plug in a $5 cable... Lenny Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369116#369116




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