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1. 06:03 AM - Re: Stratus: New for iPad and Foreflight (Jesse Saint)
2. 06:16 AM - RV10s and S&F Departures (Bill Watson)
3. 06:33 AM - Re: RV10s and S&F Departures (Jesse Saint)
4. 07:07 AM - Re: RV10s and S&F Departures (rv10flyer)
5. 07:52 AM - Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion (Ed Kranz)
6. 08:08 AM - Re: Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion (dmaib@me.com)
7. 08:22 AM - Re: Stratus: New for iPad and Foreflight (Robin Marks)
8. 08:27 AM - Re: Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion (Bruce Johnson)
9. 08:29 AM - Re: Re: Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion (Rene Felker)
10. 09:05 AM - Inertia reels (Dave Saylor)
11. 10:15 AM - Desser offers tire deal (Pascal)
12. 10:22 AM - Re: Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion (Bill Watson)
13. 01:03 PM - length of exhaust pipes (DLM)
14. 01:37 PM - Re: length of exhaust pipes (Pascal)
15. 03:04 PM - Re: length of exhaust pipes (Don McDonald)
16. 04:13 PM - Re: length of exhaust pipes (rv10flyer)
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| Subject: | Re: Stratus: New for iPad and Foreflight |
I ordered one the first day of the show, so I'll do a report after I have it
up and running. They said they would be shipping around April 23rd.
Has anyone downloaded the Garmin App? I've heard mixed feelings from people w
ho have seen the demo.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:35 AM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
> The same unit that Sporty's is promoting.
> http://www.sportys.com/PilotShop/product/17165
> I am happy someone is sticking it to XM.
> BTW backordered 1 month, probably longer after SNF.
> Robin
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:06 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Stratus: New for iPad and Foreflight
>
> This looks interesting.
> Albert Gardner
> N991RV
> Yuma, AZ
>
> Appareo Rolls Out Portable In-Flight Weather For iPad
> High Performance, Subscription-Free Receiver Made For Foreflight
> The first completely wire-free weather receiver for the iPad has been intr
oduced by Appareo, and it requires no monthly subscription. Stratus combines
an ADS-B and GPS receiver into a single unit that wirelessly streams NEXRAD
radar, text weather, TFRs and aircraft position to the popular ForeFlight M
obile app for iOS devices. $799.00
> http://www.appareo.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&
products_id=6
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| Subject: | RV10s and S&F Departures |
So we did our day trip to S&F and it was fine. Met most of the people
I've been talking to while flying off the first year.
Upon departure the 'air boss', for lack of a better handle, seemed to be
sorting fast traffic from slower traffic by assigning 9L to the slow
(Cessna and Cherokee type) from the fast (RVs Lancelots, and Cirri) on
9R. If that was the plan, I found it wanting as I lined up behind
several Piper products on 9L while the many RVs on 9R were given a "...
that fine red and gold RV 7 is cleared to go on 9R".
Okay, so on a gray daythe 10 resembles a lot of Lock Haven product , but
it is an RV! And btw, it out climbs and out runs just about everything
that looks like it.
Well, after throttling back and S-turning trying to stay in trail for
those first 3 miles, I couldn't avoid passing 2 planes before decidind
to exit the conga line while running up on a third. This thing can
really go!
So, Mr. 'air boss', figure out what an RV10 looks like, understand that
it performs like every other RV, and keep that slower sheet metal out of
the freakin' way!
Bill 'nuff said' Watson
-smile-
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| Subject: | Re: RV10s and S&F Departures |
Bill,
I saw them put you in that line with the slow spam cans (watching from the c
ampground). It does feel good to be the one passing, not the one being passe
d. Glad you had a good flight home.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 30, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> So we did our day trip to S&F and it was fine. Met most of the people I'v
e been talking to while flying off the first year.
>
> Upon departure the 'air boss', for lack of a better handle, seemed to be s
orting fast traffic from slower traffic by assigning 9L to the slow (Cessna a
nd Cherokee type) from the fast (RVs Lancelots, and Cirri) on 9R. If that w
as the plan, I found it wanting as I lined up behind several Piper products o
n 9L while the many RVs on 9R were given a "... that fine red and gold RV 7 i
s cleared to go on 9R".
>
> Okay, so on a gray day the 10 resembles a lot of Lock Haven product , but i
t is an RV! And btw, it out climbs and out runs just about everything that l
ooks like it.
>
> Well, after throttling back and S-turning trying to stay in trail for tho
se first 3 miles, I couldn't avoid passing 2 planes before decidind to exit t
he conga line while running up on a third. This thing can really go!
>
> So, Mr. 'air boss', figure out what an RV10 looks like, understand that it
performs like every other RV, and keep that slower sheet metal out of the f
reakin' way!
>
> Bill 'nuff said' Watson
> -smile-
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV10s and S&F Departures |
Maybe that RV-10 logo on my cowling will help after all. Glad you made it back
safely. At least you could start leaning early this way.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08
40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 37
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| Subject: | Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion |
I just read an article in the latest "Sport Aviation" about a Lancair IV-P
pilot who crashed due to fuel exhaustion. After the crash, the cabin was
intact, and the crash should have been survivable. Unfortunately, he hit
his head on the dash because he wasn't wearing his shoulder harness.
The reason he wasn't wearing the shoulder harness was that you couldn't
reach the fuel selector switch in that version of the Lancair while fully
strapped in. The pilot most likely removed his harness when the engine quit
in order to switch tanks, then either couldn't reach the belts again, or
never had time to.
This raises two questions for me. First, when you are fully strapped in
tight in a -10, is there anything critical that you can't reach? And
second, is there a safe setup for inertial reel shoulder harnesses for the
-10?
Here is the article I referenced. It's a good read:
http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201204?folio=24#pg26
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| Subject: | Re: Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion |
There is nothing important I cannot easily reach while strapped in tightly. The
main nuisance thing I can't reach without loosening the shoulder harness a bit,
is the copilot air vent.
There are some inertia reel installations in -10's out there. One was a kit that
beefed up the attach points in a big way. There were some posts on that kit
recently either on this forum or VAF. I think the manufacturer has stopped producing
the kit due to lack of demand, but was open to the idea of offering it
again if there is some demand. I've looked at a couple that would simply bolt
to the existing harness bolts, but have not followed up.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
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| Subject: | Re: Stratus: New for iPad and Foreflight |
I have played with the Garmin app for a few hours. It is graphically pleasi
ng and seems to do most if not all of the same things Foreflight does. I am
more comfortable with Foreflight and there are many little things that bot
h apps do that are just more intuitive and faster responding in Foreflight.
Basic items like selecting an airport to get the specifics in FF you just
tap on the chart airport icon but in the Garmin app you have to touch and h
old to bring up a Ring with multiple options such as info, direct to, curre
nt weather icon etc... Unfortunately you really need to zoom in a bit to pr
operly tap the airport graphic and the hold time required seems awkward vs
the Tap on FF, especially when you miss the icon a bit and it asks if you w
ant to add this spot as a waypoint. So far I also prefer the graphical flig
ht planning on FF better. All that being said for a fresh release it is a v
ery strong flight app that takes its graphical cues from Garmins new touchs
creen 650/750 products which I suspect will become more and more ubiquitous
over time.
Robin
Sent from my iPad2.
On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:14 AM, "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com<mailto:
jesse@saintaviation.com>> wrote:
I ordered one the first day of the show, so I'll do a report after I have i
t up and running. They said they would be shipping around April 23rd.
Has anyone downloaded the Garmin App? I've heard mixed feelings from people
who have seen the demo.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org<mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
www.itecusa.org<http://www.itecusa.org>
www.mavericklsa.co<http://www.mavericklsa.com>
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545th
F: 815-377-3694
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On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:35 AM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com<mailto:rob
in@PaintTheWeb.com>> wrote:
The same unit that Sporty's is promoting.
http://www.sportys.com/PilotShop/product/17165
I am happy someone is sticking it to XM.
BTW backordered 1 month, probably longer after SNF.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma
tronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alb
ert Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Stratus: New for iPad and Foreflight
This looks interesting.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
Appareo Rolls Out Portable In-Flight Weather For iPad
High Performance, Subscription-Free Receiver Made For Foreflight
The first completely wire-free weather receiver for the iPad has been intro
duced by Appareo, and it requires no monthly subscription. Stratus combines
an ADS-B and GPS receiver into a single unit that wirelessly streams NEXRA
D radar, text weather, TFRs and aircraft position to the popular ForeFlight
Mobile app for iOS devices. $799.00
http://www.appareo.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&p
roducts_id=6
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| Subject: | Re: Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion |
David said it exactly as I would have, the only thing I can't reach is the
co-pilot air vent, so no worries.-=0A=0A=0A______________________________
__=0A From: Ed Kranz <ed.kranz@gmail.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com =0A
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 7:51 AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Inertial Reels a
nd fuel exhaustion=0A =0A=0AI just read an article in the latest "Sport Avi
ation" about a Lancair IV-P pilot who crashed due to fuel exhaustion. After
the crash, the cabin was intact, and the crash should have been survivable
. Unfortunately, he hit his head on the dash because he wasn't wearing his
shoulder harness.-=0A=0AThe reason he wasn't wearing the shoulder harness
was that you couldn't reach the fuel selector switch in that version of th
e Lancair while fully strapped in. The pilot most likely removed his harnes
s when the engine quit in order to switch tanks, then either couldn't reach
the belts again, or never had time to.=0A=0AThis raises two questions for
me. First, when you are fully strapped in tight in a -10, is there anything
critical that you can't reach? And second, is there a safe setup for inert
ial reel shoulder harnesses for the -10?=0A=0AHere is the article I referen
ced. It's a good read:-http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/2
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| Subject: | Re: Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion |
I have the inertial reels belts and love them....
http://www.n423cf.com/belts/
I do not sell them or represent David. Just have his pages on my site as a
service.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmaib@me.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:07 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion
There is nothing important I cannot easily reach while strapped in tightly.
The main nuisance thing I can't reach without loosening the shoulder harness
a bit, is the copilot air vent.
There are some inertia reel installations in -10's out there. One was a kit
that beefed up the attach points in a big way. There were some posts on that
kit recently either on this forum or VAF. I think the manufacturer has
stopped producing the kit due to lack of demand, but was open to the idea of
offering it again if there is some demand. I've looked at a couple that
would simply bolt to the existing harness bolts, but have not followed up.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369614#369614
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This is how I mounted mine. This is one for the back but the fronts are esse
ntially the same and essentially use the stock mounting bolt. In a crash, I
don't think the bolt gets pulled down through the roof but rather dragged r
adially through the cabin top.
The greenish part is a simple section of .063 steel tube.
--Dave
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| Subject: | Desser offers tire deal |
Tim made mention on his site about the set of tires to get instead of
from Vans. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20110326/index.html
There was some confusion on what to get and where to find the tires on
Desser=99s site
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ To make it
easier for those going this route I spoke with Desser and they have come
up with a deal for Builders to make it easier to locate it all at once.
It has the right valve (90 degree) and better (albeit retread) tires
than the new Vans tires. As a bonus get a 10% deal by going this route
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/RV%252d10-New-Builders-Special-
%283-tires-%26-3-tubes%29-save-10%25.html
Rear tires for those flying when you need a new set
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/-RV%252d10-Main-Tire-Package-Sp
ecial-save-10%25.html same deal- 10% by getting all at once.
Pascal
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| Subject: | Re: Inertial Reels and fuel exhaustion |
I would just add, that if you don't go the inertial belt route, you do
need a means to keep the shoulder harnesses out of the way when you
aren't strapped in. I think just about everyone ends up with some kind
of roof bracket. Some for sale, some fabricated, but it seems to me
they are necessary to make their regular use a pleasure. A couple of
hours with some aluminum sheet and a few blind nuts allowed me to
produce a useable set.
Bill
On 3/30/2012 10:51 AM, Ed Kranz wrote:
> I just read an article in the latest "Sport Aviation" about a Lancair
> IV-P pilot who crashed due to fuel exhaustion. After the crash, the
> cabin was intact, and the crash should have been survivable.
> Unfortunately, he hit his head on the dash because he wasn't wearing
> his shoulder harness.
>
> The reason he wasn't wearing the shoulder harness was that you
> couldn't reach the fuel selector switch in that version of the Lancair
> while fully strapped in. The pilot most likely removed his harness
> when the engine quit in order to switch tanks, then either couldn't
> reach the belts again, or never had time to.
>
> This raises two questions for me. First, when you are fully strapped
> in tight in a -10, is there anything critical that you can't reach?
> And second, is there a safe setup for inertial reel shoulder harnesses
> for the -10?
>
> Here is the article I referenced. It's a good read:
> http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201204?folio=24#pg26
>
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| Subject: | length of exhaust pipes |
Any correlation between the length of exhaust tubes and the length and
breadth of the exhaust soot on the belly? How long are your exhaust tubes?
How much crud on the underside?
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| Subject: | Re: length of exhaust pipes |
I think most of the crud comes from the oil blow-by. I don=99t
really have any soot on my belly, I have a oil separator that I drain
every once in while.
From: DLM
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: length of exhaust pipes
Any correlation between the length of exhaust tubes and the length and
breadth of the exhaust soot on the belly? How long are your exhaust
tubes? How much crud on the underside?
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| Subject: | Re: length of exhaust pipes |
I bet you haven't even been under your plane to even think about cleaning t
he belly!=C2- Boy was the flight down to the keys and the lunch in Marath
in GREAT today.=0A=0A=0AFrom: Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net>=0ATo: rv10-lis
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have a oil separator that I drain every once in while.=0A=0AFrom: DLM =0ASe
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| Subject: | Re: length of exhaust pipes |
Mine are really long. I run lean except for takeoff/climbout. During break in a
ran rich and exhaust pipes were black inside. Now tan. After 10 hrs I get a really
thin layer of oil on the bottom.
--------
Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08
40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 41
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