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1. 03:40 AM - Manual Trim (Greg McFarlane)
2. 04:54 AM - Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals (jkreidler)
3. 05:01 AM - Re: Manual Trim ()
4. 05:35 AM - Re: Manual Trim (Greg McFarlane)
5. 05:36 AM - Re: Manual Trim (Jason Wodack)
6. 05:42 AM - Intersection Fairings for RV10 (Carl Froehlich)
7. 05:55 AM - Re: Manual Trim (rv10flyer)
8. 06:00 AM - Re: Manual Trim (johngoodman)
9. 06:01 AM - Re: Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals (Rene Felker)
10. 06:03 AM - Re: Manual Trim (Rene Felker)
11. 06:27 AM - Re: Intersection Fairings for RV10 (Don McDonald)
12. 06:36 AM - Re: Intersection Fairings for RV10 (Bob Leffler)
13. 06:38 AM - Re: Manual Trim (DLM)
14. 06:41 AM - Re: Intersection Fairings for RV10 (DLM)
15. 06:52 AM - ADSB In Coverage (Barry Marz)
16. 06:58 AM - Re: Manual Trim (Sean Stephens)
17. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals (Kelly McMullen)
18. 08:42 AM - Re: Intersection Fairings for RV10 (Phil Perry)
19. 08:46 AM - Re: ADSB In Coverage (Jesse Saint)
20. 09:15 AM - Re: Intersection Fairings for RV10 (John Gonzalez)
21. 09:39 AM - Re: Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals (John Ackerman)
22. 09:49 AM - Re: Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals (Phil Perry)
23. 09:57 AM - Re: Intersection Fairings for RV10 (Shannon Hicks)
24. 12:55 PM - Re: Manual Trim (Bob Turner)
25. 01:01 PM - Re: ADSB In Coverage (Bob Turner)
26. 02:55 PM - Re: Manual Trim (Bill Watson)
27. 05:42 PM - Fitting Fairings to the Fuselage, how I do it...... (Michael Kraus)
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Has anyone considered or fitted manual trim in an RV10 to eliminate any runaway
trim issues, give infinite fine trim capability & just reduce electric complexity.
[Rolling Eyes]
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=370655#370655
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| Subject: | Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals |
Kelly, we used seals made by Abby at Flightline Interiors. They are custom made
to match the interior colors, in our case she made them from light grey material.
They look great, match, and work.we also attached them to the door just
a bit differently. We had Velcro sewn to the back of the seal, then attached
Velcro to the door. This way we could adjust the seal as required, that has
proven to work fine (370 hours). No pictures handy,sorry - Jason
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Jason Kreidler
4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
N44YH - Flying - #40617
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Hey Greg,
I just ran across the manual elevator trim option last week while I'm on
this detour helping guys build RV-8's. I was amazed at how simple it was.
I asked if anyone had tried it on the RV-10. He didn't know, but our guess
is that the -8 uses only one tab and it's a small one vs. the -10's two
tabs. I never have liked the idea of funky cams and twisted tail effect on
the -10, but with the correct alignment it works OK. If you'd like, I can
track down the hardware for the manual -8 ... perhaps there is an adaptor
to split the cable for the two tabs, or you could be the
inventor/experimenter.
Later, - Lew
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg McFarlane
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 6:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Manual Trim
Has anyone considered or fitted manual trim in an RV10 to eliminate any
runaway trim issues, give infinite fine trim capability & just reduce
electric complexity. [Rolling Eyes]
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Thanks Lew, I was thinking more along the lines of keeping the "funky" cam and
just replacing the servo with a "normal" Vans manual type cable set up. [Rolling
Eyes]
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I've considered several methods of manual trim, however since I haven't
started building yet it's all theoreticall. I'll be interested to hear
there ideas.
Jason
Do not archive
On Apr 13, 2012 3:17 PM, "Greg McFarlane" <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Has anyone considered or fitted manual trim in an RV10 to eliminate any
> runaway trim issues, give infinite fine trim capability & just reduce
> electric complexity. [Rolling Eyes]
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=370655#370655
>
>
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| Subject: | Intersection Fairings for RV10 |
All,
I need to finish the wheel pants - and the top and bottom intersection
fairing from Van's are so bad that I either need to spend a lot of time
reworking them or buy replacements.
I note that Cleaveland tool sells these fairings:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RV10IF4
They look to be the same product as:
http://rvbits.mybigcommerce.com/products/RV10-INTERSECTION-FAIRINGS.html
I also heard the fairings Van's is now sending out are better.
Recommendations?
Carl
First engine start tomorrow..
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I installed a pitch trim enable push button next to my panel mounted rocker. No
relays, trim speed controllers and definitely no runaways. KISS. One would have
severe cramping in your arm if you had to fly very far. Yes it is sensitive
at cruise...just don't tap the rocker long. Once trimmed close at cruise my AP
takes care of it and will let me know if I need to retrim. I love the setup,
cost and will even more when it breaks.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 05/93 PP 10/08
40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 41
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Here is a source if you are looking for one...
http://www.periheliondesign.com/moreproducts.htm
--------
#40572 Phase One complete and flying.
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| Subject: | Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals |
I used the ones on this page.
http://www.rvtraining.com/html/atp/html/accessories.html
They work great for me.....a little pricy.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals
Giving due consideration to the desirability of keeping the gutter, one has
to consider the other weather striping options. The stock Vans stuff doesn't
look all that hot. Other suggestions?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:35 AM, jkreidler <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
wrote:
> --> <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
> By removing the entire inside radius of the gutter in order to install the
McMaster Carr style seal you are significantly changing the section modulus
of the cabin top post and COULD be significantly increasing the likelihood
of a cabin top failure in a roll over type accident. Just something to
consider as you make what may seem to be a harmless improvement to the
design.
>
> Again, these are your decisions I am only trying to provide an alternate
perspective to the decision.
>
> Thanks Jason
>
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I just install my auto trim this annual. Works great, wish I had done it in
the beginning. Thos trutrak guys are great.
If you go manual trim, you lose that option.
YMMV
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
lewgall@charter.net
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Manual Trim
Hey Greg,
I just ran across the manual elevator trim option last week while I'm on
this detour helping guys build RV-8's. I was amazed at how simple it was.
I asked if anyone had tried it on the RV-10. He didn't know, but our guess
is that the -8 uses only one tab and it's a small one vs. the -10's two
tabs. I never have liked the idea of funky cams and twisted tail effect on
the -10, but with the correct alignment it works OK. If you'd like, I can
track down the hardware for the manual -8 ... perhaps there is an adaptor
to split the cable for the two tabs, or you could be the
inventor/experimenter.
Later, - Lew
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg McFarlane
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 6:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Manual Trim
--> <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com>
Has anyone considered or fitted manual trim in an RV10 to eliminate any
runaway trim issues, give infinite fine trim capability & just reduce
electric complexity. [Rolling Eyes]
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| Subject: | Re: Intersection Fairings for RV10 |
Carl, I had a problem with one of mine.... can't remember what it was... ma
ybe I lost it..... anyway, I ended up making up one from scratch fitting it
right to the bottom of the plane.=C2- It's lighter and fits perfectly...
should have done them both.=C2- Just used clay.=0ADon=0A =0A=0A_________
_______________________=0A From: Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net
>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:41 AM=0AS
ubject: RV10-List: Intersection Fairings for RV10=0A =0A=0AAll,=0A=C2-
=0AI need to finish the wheel pants =93 and the top and bottom inters
ection fairing from Van=99s are so bad that I either need to spend a
lot of time reworking them or buy replacements.=0A=C2-=0AI note that Clea
veland tool sells these fairings:=C2- http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/
prodinfo.asp?number=RV10IF4=0AThey look to be the same product as: http:/
/rvbits.mybigcommerce.com/products/RV10-INTERSECTION-FAIRINGS.html=0A=C2-
=0AI also heard the fairings Van=99s is now sending out are better.
=0A=C2-=0ARecommendations?=0A=0ACarl=0AFirst engine start tomorrow
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| Subject: | Re: Intersection Fairings for RV10 |
Cleveland does resell Jan's fairings. I just got a pair and there is no com
parison with the set I got from Vans. My wife has been assisting with sandi
ng filler. Once she saw the state of the Vans fairing, she immediately agree
d it was a worthwhile investment.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 13, 2012, at 8:41 AM, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> w
rote:
All,
I need to finish the wheel pants =93 and the top and bottom intersecti
on fairing from Van=99s are so bad that I either need to spend a lot o
f time reworking them or buy replacements.
I note that Cleaveland tool sells these fairings: http://www.cleavelandtool
store.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RV10IF4
They look to be the same product as: http://rvbits.mybigcommerce.com/product
s/RV10-INTERSECTION-FAIRINGS.html
I also heard the fairings Van=99s is now sending out are better.
Recommendations?
Carl
First engine start tomorrow.
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If you are referring to pitch trim; my auto trim works in auto when the AP
is in actively drving the aircraft. During manual control of the aircraft
the trim switch works. I also fashioned a plug so that it reconnects the
completely manual system if the auto pitch trim must be removed for
maintenance; the aircraft is still operational.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 6:02 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Manual Trim
I just install my auto trim this annual. Works great, wish I had done it in
the beginning. Thos trutrak guys are great.
If you go manual trim, you lose that option.
YMMV
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
lewgall@charter.net
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Manual Trim
Hey Greg,
I just ran across the manual elevator trim option last week while I'm on
this detour helping guys build RV-8's. I was amazed at how simple it was.
I asked if anyone had tried it on the RV-10. He didn't know, but our guess
is that the -8 uses only one tab and it's a small one vs. the -10's two
tabs. I never have liked the idea of funky cams and twisted tail effect on
the -10, but with the correct alignment it works OK. If you'd like, I can
track down the hardware for the manual -8 ... perhaps there is an adaptor
to split the cable for the two tabs, or you could be the
inventor/experimenter.
Later, - Lew
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg McFarlane
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 6:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Manual Trim
--> <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com>
Has anyone considered or fitted manual trim in an RV10 to eliminate any
runaway trim issues, give infinite fine trim capability & just reduce
electric complexity. [Rolling Eyes]
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| Subject: | Intersection Fairings for RV10 |
Trim to fit; new fairings just like the old. I replaced one after a bird
strike.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Intersection Fairings for RV10
All,
I need to finish the wheel pants - and the top and bottom intersection
fairing from Van's are so bad that I either need to spend a lot of time
reworking them or buy replacements.
I note that Cleaveland tool sells these fairings:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RV10IF4
They look to be the same product as:
http://rvbits.mybigcommerce.com/products/RV10-INTERSECTION-FAIRINGS.html
I also heard the fairings Van's is now sending out are better.
Recommendations?
Carl
First engine start tomorrow..
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| Subject: | ADSB In Coverage |
I am trying to determine if the ADSB In only receivers will get the
weather info from a broadcast tower all the time. I have heard that
the tower needs to be in contact with a ADSB Out aircraft before it
will send the weather info. Thanks Barry
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Just a note that TT send out the plug mentioned below with the AutoTrim
now, so there's no need to make one yourself. One was supplied with my
AutoTrim purchase.
-Sean #40303 (Fitting Doors)
On 4/13/12 8:37 AM, DLM wrote:
>
> If you are referring to pitch trim; my auto trim works in auto when
> the AP is in actively drving the aircraft. During manual control of
> the aircraft the trim switch works. I also fashioned a plug so that it
> reconnects the completely manual system if the auto pitch trim must be
> removed for maintenance; the aircraft is still operational.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 6:02 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Manual Trim
>
>
> I just install my auto trim this annual. Works great, wish I had done
> it in
>
> the beginning. Thos trutrak guys are great.
>
> If you go manual trim, you lose that option.
>
> YMMV
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>
> lewgall@charter.net
>
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:59 AM
>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Manual Trim
>
>
> Hey Greg,
>
> I just ran across the manual elevator trim option last week while I'm on
>
> this detour helping guys build RV-8's. I was amazed at how simple it
> was.
>
> I asked if anyone had tried it on the RV-10. He didn't know, but our
> guess
>
> is that the -8 uses only one tab and it's a small one vs. the -10's two
>
> tabs. I never have liked the idea of funky cams and twisted tail
> effect on
>
> the -10, but with the correct alignment it works OK. If you'd like, I can
>
> track down the hardware for the manual -8 ... perhaps there is an adaptor
>
> to split the cable for the two tabs, or you could be the
>
> inventor/experimenter.
>
> Later, - Lew
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Greg McFarlane
>
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 6:36 AM
>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
> Subject: RV10-List: Manual Trim
>
>
> --> <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com>
>
> Has anyone considered or fitted manual trim in an RV10 to eliminate any
>
> runaway trim issues, give infinite fine trim capability & just reduce
>
> electric complexity. [Rolling Eyes]
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals |
Thanks Rene',
That looks like the easiest solution, should eliminate a lot of rework
of the gutter.
On 4/13/2012 6:00 AM, Rene Felker wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker"<rene@felker.com>
>
> I used the ones on this page.
>
> http://www.rvtraining.com/html/atp/html/accessories.html
>
> They work great for me.....a little pricy.
>
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:03 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen<apilot2@gmail.com>
>
> Giving due consideration to the desirability of keeping the gutter, one has
> to consider the other weather striping options. The stock Vans stuff doesn't
> look all that hot. Other suggestions?
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:35 AM, jkreidler<jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
> wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jkreidler"
>> --> <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
>> By removing the entire inside radius of the gutter in order to install the
> McMaster Carr style seal you are significantly changing the section modulus
> of the cabin top post and COULD be significantly increasing the likelihood
> of a cabin top failure in a roll over type accident. Just something to
> consider as you make what may seem to be a harmless improvement to the
> design.
>> Again, these are your decisions I am only trying to provide an alternate
> perspective to the decision.
>> Thanks Jason
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Intersection Fairings for RV10 |
I've always wondered if they are fiberglass or some other form of plastic.
Do you know what they are made of?
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 13, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
> Cleveland does resell Jan's fairings. I just got a pair and there is no c
omparison with the set I got from Vans. My wife has been assisting with san
ding filler. Once she saw the state of the Vans fairing, she immediately agr
eed it was a worthwhile investment.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 13, 2012, at 8:41 AM, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I need to finish the wheel pants =93 and the top and bottom intersec
tion fairing from Van=99s are so bad that I either need to spend a lot
of time reworking them or buy replacements.
>
> I note that Cleaveland tool sells these fairings: http://www.cleavelandto
olstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RV10IF4
> They look to be the same product as: http://rvbits.mybigcommerce.com/produ
cts/RV10-INTERSECTION-FAIRINGS.html
>
> I also heard the fairings Van=99s is now sending out are better.
>
> Recommendations?
>
> Carl
> First engine start tomorrow.
>
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| Subject: | Re: ADSB In Coverage |
My understanding is that the weather is strictly a broadcast, with no
response requirement from the ADS-B box in the plane. To get traffic, I
have heard that some stations somehow require a response via ADS-B Out,
but I don't know how they work that. I'm not an authority on the
subject, but I thought I would share my understanding since there were
no other responses yet.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Barry Marz wrote:
> I am trying to determine if the ADSB In only receivers will get the
weather info from a broadcast tower all the time. I have heard that the
tower needs to be in contact with a ADSB Out aircraft before it will
send the weather info. Thanks Barry
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Intersection Fairings for RV10 |
Make your own.
Collision wrap
Black Christy's plumbing tape
Modeling clay
Release wax
7 once loose weave fiberglass
3 once satin weave fiberglass.
West Systems slow set epoxy
Aluminum sheet flashing
Use the wheel faring=2C the leg faring and the underside of the fuselage as
your mold in addition to the above items.
The parts come out perfect=2C fit like a glove and are light and do not cra
ck like the ones Van's sells because with the Van's ones you need to use so
much filler to make the fit. Filler is weak=2C heavy and looks like crap.
John G 409. Engine run up. Plane complete including paint=2C 98 percent don
e!
From: carl.froehlich@verizon.net
Subject: RV10-List: Intersection Fairings for RV10
All=2C I need to finish the wheel pants ' and the top and bottom intersec
tion fairing from Van=92s are so bad that I either need to spend a lot of t
ime reworking them or buy replacements. I note that Cleaveland tool sells t
hese fairings: http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RV
10IF4They look to be the same product as: http://rvbits.mybigcommerce.com/p
roducts/RV10-INTERSECTION-FAIRINGS.html I also heard the fairings Van=92s i
s now sending out are better. Recommendations?
CarlFirst engine start tomorrow=85.
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| Subject: | Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals |
We're very happy with the foam seals that Alex sells. Straightforward installation,
expecially compared to the rest of the door work.... :-)]
http://www.aviationtechproducts.com
John Ackerman
40458
On Apr 12, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Giving due consideration to the desirability of keeping the gutter,
> one has to consider the other weather striping options. The stock Vans
> stuff doesn't look all that hot. Other suggestions?
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:35 AM, jkreidler
> <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com> wrote:
>
>> By removing the entire inside radius of the gutter in order to install the McMaster
Carr style seal you are significantly changing the section modulus of
the cabin top post and COULD be significantly increasing the likelihood of a cabin
top failure in a roll over type accident. Just something to consider as
you make what may seem to be a harmless improvement to the design.
>>
>> Again, these are your decisions I am only trying to provide an alternate perspective
to the decision.
>>
>> Thanks Jason
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| Subject: | Re: Door Gutter and McMaster Seals |
Love'em too. Simple and I've flown with them in past. They're quite tight and
I couldn't find any leaks anywhere in the door. I made a point to look for them
while we were in route.
They're great.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 13, 2012, at 11:38 AM, John Ackerman <johnag5b@cableone.net> wrote:
>
> We're very happy with the foam seals that Alex sells. Straightforward installation,
expecially compared to the rest of the door work.... :-)]
>
> http://www.aviationtechproducts.com
>
> John Ackerman
> 40458
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
>>
>> Giving due consideration to the desirability of keeping the gutter,
>> one has to consider the other weather striping options. The stock Vans
>> stuff doesn't look all that hot. Other suggestions?
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:35 AM, jkreidler
>> <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com> wrote:
>>
>>> By removing the entire inside radius of the gutter in order to install the
McMaster Carr style seal you are significantly changing the section modulus of
the cabin top post and COULD be significantly increasing the likelihood of a
cabin top failure in a roll over type accident. Just something to consider as
you make what may seem to be a harmless improvement to the design.
>>>
>>> Again, these are your decisions I am only trying to provide an alternate perspective
to the decision.
>>>
>>> Thanks Jason
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Intersection Fairings for RV10 |
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If you have a Trio autopilot with auto trim, not only does it trim when you use
the autopilot; you can also use the trim function when hand-flying the aircraft.
And, it is programable to run fast at low airspeeds, slow at high airspeeds.
I use it all the time in cruise when hand-flying, for fine adjustments to the
trim.
Also, it is a workaround against a stuck trim "hat" switch. (pull trim CB, you
can still trim thru the autopilot). Negative side, if the trim runs away, you
need to pull both the trim and the autopilot CB's and then trouble-shoot where
the problem is. For this reason I have those breakers side by side, directly
in front of me.
Of course it is still electrical; if the motors, wires to the motors, or battery
fails, there's no trim.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: ADSB In Coverage |
My understanding is that Jesse is correct.
Weather is just broadcast.
The ground station only sends out traffic that is near aircraft that it knows are
listening. And it know they're listening only if they're sending an ADS-B signal
out. If it knows about no aircraft listening, no traffic is sent. If another
aircraft is near you AND that aircraft is sending out the ADS-B out signal,
then the ground station will send out traffic that it knows about around that
airplane, and you may get that information even though you're just listening.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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I've found the easiest way to trim for any climb, descent or for level
flight is to simply engage the TT AP. If I want to hand fly at that
point (??), I just disconnect the TT and there we are.
With that said, trimming "manually" with the trim button could hardly be
easier.
Bill
On 4/13/2012 9:02 AM, Rene Felker wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker"<rene@felker.com>
>
> I just install my auto trim this annual. Works great, wish I had done it in
> the beginning. Thos trutrak guys are great.
>
> If you go manual trim, you lose that option.
>
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| Subject: | Fitting Fairings to the Fuselage, how I do it...... |
I am resending this as there have been a lot of talk about fuselage
intersection fairings..... Do not use filler to fit the fairings, use
filler to fill the pin holes and minor imperfections....
I hope this helps......
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From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
"rv-list@matronics.com" <rv-list@matronics.com>
Conversation: Fitting Fairing to the Fuselage, how I do it......
Subject: Fitting Fairing to the Fuselage, how I do it......
Here is a better description of how I fit my fairings..... Can be used
for the gear leg to fuse, gear leg to wheel pant, or rear empennage
intersection fairing.
* Rough cut and dry fit up fairing to airplane. Drill #30 holes in
locations where screws will eventually hold fairing to fuselage. When
satisfied with the fit, draw a marker line on the fuselage around perimeter
of fairing. Remove fairing.
* Use mold release (I use the car wax stuff from Aircraft Spruce) and wipe
it all over the fuselage about 2-4=B2 or more around both sides of the line
you drew. DO NOT FORGET TO DO THIS STEP OR YOU WILL VERY UNHAPPY!!
* Scuff up inside of fairing with 36-40 grit sandpaper on all surfaces wher
e
they will come into contact with the fuselage.
* Clean fairings real good with acetone or similar to remove any
dust/dirt/residue/mold release, etc
* Work on one side of one fairing at a time (for instance, if you are
working on the upper fuselage to gear leg intersection fairing, work on the
fuselage to fairing interface first. Second time around work on the fairin
g
to gear leg interface). Lay up 2-3 layers of approximately 9 oz cloth on
the fuselage over the line drawn in step 1.
* Mix up flox and epoxy to a peanut butter consistency and apply about
1/16=B2-1/8=B2 onto the fairing surface that mates to the fuselage. This will
help fill any gaps that may be present due to poorly formed fairings.
* Mash the fairing onto the fuselage in position. Use
cleco=B9s/clamps/screws/whatever you desire to hold it in place exactly where
you want it until dry.
*
* Once dry, use compressed air to blow it free from the fuselage. Its
amazing how well the compressed air works. Just get a little spot to break
free, then blow air in the spot and the whole thing will pop off pretty
easily.
* Clean the fuselage up with a plastic scraper and acetone and clean real
well.
* Trim the fairing edge as desired to get a smooth edge.
*
* Repeat the process for the other side of the same fairing. For this
example, that would be the upper gear leg to fairing surface (or the lower
line as described above). DON=B9T FORGET THE MOLD RELEASE ON THE SURFACE YOU
DON=B9T WANT IT BONDED TOO!
*
* Once complete, fill and sand, and fill, and sand, and fill, and sand unti
l
it is smooth to your satisfaction.
For the rear empannage intersection fairing, I followed the same process,
but layed up the HS to fairing surface first, then the VS to fairing surfac
e
second.
I hope this is not too confusing. It is actually quite easy, just takes
time.....especially in the Michigan winters when even fast drying epoxy
takes 2 days to cure!
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 Flying and Sold
RV-10 Flying
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