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1. 05:18 AM - Flap Question (Michael Kraus)
2. 05:28 AM - Re: Flap Question (Seano)
3. 06:13 AM - Re: Flap Question (David Leikam)
4. 06:20 AM - Re: Flap Question (Patrick Thyssen)
5. 06:50 AM - Re: Flap Question (Carl Froehlich)
6. 08:45 AM - Re: Flap Question (Dave Saylor)
7. 02:40 PM - Re: Flap - Aileron Gap Seal Question (Jim Combs)
8. 05:40 PM - Re: Flap Question (Chris)
9. 06:18 PM - Re: Flap - Aileron Gap Seal Question (Jack Phillips)
10. 07:20 PM - Firewall (Rick Lark)
11. 08:47 PM - Re: Firewall (Rick)
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I noticed my flap leading edge hits my wing top skin in the fully up position just
barely. I know the design of the other RV's necessitate a protective tape
as they are always in contact with the upper skin in any position.
Just curious what other RV-10ers are doing, bending the top skin trailing edge
slightly, or adding a protective tape?
Thanks
-Mike
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Question |
I put the protective tape on the underside of the top skin instead of the top of
the flap. This way it still doesn't get scratched and the uv doesn't yellow
it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2012, at 5:15, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> wrote:
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> I noticed my flap leading edge hits my wing top skin in the fully up position
just barely. I know the design of the other RV's necessitate a protective tape
as they are always in contact with the upper skin in any position.
>
> Just curious what other RV-10ers are doing, bending the top skin trailing edge
slightly, or adding a protective tape?
>
> Thanks
> -Mike
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> Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Question |
I have tape on the underside of the top skin to prevent scratches. I also bent
the top skin up just slightly.
Dave Leikam
On Apr 21, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Michael Kraus wrote:
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> I noticed my flap leading edge hits my wing top skin in the fully up position
just barely. I know the design of the other RV's necessitate a protective tape
as they are always in contact with the upper skin in any position.
>
> Just curious what other RV-10ers are doing, bending the top skin trailing edge
slightly, or adding a protective tape?
>
> Thanks
> -Mike
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> Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Question |
ditto bottom of skin
Patrick Thyssen
N15PT
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On Apr 21, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Seano <sean@braunandco.com> wrote:
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> I put the protective tape on the underside of the top skin instead of the top
of the flap. This way it still doesn't get scratched and the uv doesn't yellow
it.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 21, 2012, at 5:15, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> wrote:
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>> I noticed my flap leading edge hits my wing top skin in the fully up position
just barely. I know the design of the other RV's necessitate a protective tape
as they are always in contact with the upper skin in any position.
>>
>> Just curious what other RV-10ers are doing, bending the top skin trailing edge
slightly, or adding a protective tape?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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I did the top of the flap. My thought was that anything getting stuck
between the tape and the skin will scratch the underside of the wing skin,
not the top of the flap.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Thyssen
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flap Question
ditto bottom of skin
Patrick Thyssen
N15PT
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 21, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Seano <sean@braunandco.com> wrote:
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> I put the protective tape on the underside of the top skin instead of the
top of the flap. This way it still doesn't get scratched and the uv doesn't
yellow it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 21, 2012, at 5:15, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
wrote:
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>> --> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
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>> I noticed my flap leading edge hits my wing top skin in the fully up
position just barely. I know the design of the other RV's necessitate a
protective tape as they are always in contact with the upper skin in any
position.
>>
>> Just curious what other RV-10ers are doing, bending the top skin trailing
edge slightly, or adding a protective tape?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Question |
Mine's under the top skin. But a customer had his tape on the top of the
flap. After a few years the tape got brittle and began to flake off. He
was complaining about a significant rolling moment when he put the flaps
down. I'd seen that on my plane because the flaps were initially a little
out of rig, so that's what we looked for. The rigging was fine so we
cleaned up the flaking tape and that solved the problem--no more roll with
flaps down.
--Dave Saylor
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Michael Kraus
<n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>wrote:
> >
>
> I noticed my flap leading edge hits my wing top skin in the fully up
> position just barely. I know the design of the other RV's necessitate a
> protective tape as they are always in contact with the upper skin in any
> position.
>
> Just curious what other RV-10ers are doing, bending the top skin trailing
> edge slightly, or adding a protective tape?
>
> Thanks
> -Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap - Aileron Gap Seal Question |
Has anyone tried or considered gap seals for either the ailerons or the
flaps?
I wonder if it would help or hurt performance?
I think the flaps actually depend on air flowing from the underside of the
wing
to help with airflow. but maybe not? I am not an aeronautical engineer nor
have I tried anything.
Jim Combs
N312F - 360 Hours
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Question |
And what specifically are the type of tapes that are being used??
Thank
Chris
N919AR
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:43:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flap Question
Mine's under the top skin. But a customer had his tape on the top of the flap.
After a few years the tape got brittle and began to flake off. He was complaining
about a significant rolling moment when he put the flaps down. I'd seen
that on my plane because the flaps were initially a little out of rig, so that's
what we looked for. The rigging was fine so we cleaned up the flaking tape
and that solved the problem--no more roll with flaps down.
--Dave Saylor
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> wrote:
I noticed my flap leading edge hits my wing top skin in the fully up position just
barely. I know the design of the other RV's necessitate a protective tape
as they are always in contact with the upper skin in any position.
Just curious what other RV-10ers are doing, bending the top skin trailing edge
slightly, or adding a protective tape?
Thanks
-Mike
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Flap - Aileron Gap Seal Question |
The RV-10 has slotted flaps that depend on air from the underside of the
wing being injected through the gap, energizing the air on the top surface
of the flaps to help keep the airflow attached. Flap effectiveness would
decrease significantly if the gap were sealed.
Jack Phillips
#40610 Wings (Flaps)
Raleigh, NC (Soon to be Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Combs
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flap - Aileron Gap Seal Question
Has anyone tried or considered gap seals for either the ailerons or the
flaps?
I wonder if it would help or hurt performance?
I think the flaps actually depend on air flowing from the underside of the
wing
to help with airflow. but maybe not? I am not an aeronautical engineer nor
have I tried anything.
Jim Combs
N312F - 360 Hours
Do Not Archive
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Hi all, I'm in new territory here guys, but do I debur the firewall as I
would a piece of aluminum? Lot's of edges and holes. I expect the
stainless firewall won't stress crack like 2024T3 will, but I'm unsure.
What's the bottom line???
Thx, Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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Rick,
Yes but for several reasons. One is it will cut the crap out on you in the n
ormal course of the build. Second, although it's not as prone to stress crac
ks as aluminum, smooth the edges to prevent any chance of stress risers. You
can be much more aggressive than aluminum. I've found Dremel sanding barrel
s and carbide cutters work well. Time spent smoothing these edges will save m
any bandaids and painful steel cuts over the long run. Just my humble advic
e, worth everything you paid for it. :D
Rick Sked
Building RV-10 n=C3=BAmero dos!
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On Apr 21, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Rick Lark <larkrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all, I'm in new territory here guys, but do I debur the firewall as I w
ould a piece of aluminum? Lot's of edges and holes. I expect the stainless
firewall won't stress crack like 2024T3 will, but I'm unsure.
>
> What's the bottom line???
>
> Thx, Rick
> #40956
> Southampton, Ont
>
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