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1. 06:42 AM - White House user fee petition (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 07:31 AM - Re: White House user fee petition (Tim Olson)
3. 07:34 AM - Re: White House user fee petition (Lyle Peterson)
4. 07:41 AM - Re: White House user fee petition (David Leikam)
5. 07:55 AM - Re: White House user fee petition (William Greenley)
6. 08:43 AM - Re: White House user fee petition (Lyle Peterson)
7. 09:14 AM - Re: White House user fee petition (Phil White)
8. 03:33 PM - Re: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed (cjay)
9. 04:48 PM - Re: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed (cjay)
10. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed (Robin Marks)
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| Subject: | White House user fee petition |
I've signed the petition but being the cynic that I am of the current
occupants of the White House, I kept wondering if this is a ploy to be
able to get a list of who belongs to which groups! I guess if we start
receiving emails from them I'll have my answer.
Wayne Edgerton
N602WT
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: White House user fee petition |
This isn't a survey by the Whitehouse....it's a petition forced on the White
house by Aviators. I'm sure they would rather not have it.
You very likely WILL get an email from them arguing their point, but that's a
bout it. I'm proud to be on any list arguing against stupid user fees that a
re best handled with fuel tax.
Tim
On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:41 AM, "Wayne Edgerton" <w.edgerton@verizon.net> wrote
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> I've signed the petition but being the cynic that I am of the current occu
pants of the White House, I kept wondering if this is a ploy to be able to g
et a list of who belongs to which groups! I guess if we start receiving emai
ls from them I'll have my answer.
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> Wayne Edgerton
> N602WT
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| Subject: | Re: White House user fee petition |
You will get e-mails from the White House. They won't overflow your
inbox and you can opt out after they start coming.
Another cynic,
Lyle
On 4/28/2012 8:41 AM, Wayne Edgerton wrote:
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> I've signed the petition but being the cynic that I am of the current
> occupants of the White House, I kept wondering if this is a ploy to be
> able to get a list of who belongs to which groups! I guess if we start
> receiving emails from them I'll have my answer.
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> Wayne Edgerton
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| Subject: | Re: White House user fee petition |
Done.
Dave Leikam
On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
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> There is a petition on the White House website asking for an explanation of the
proposed $100 user fee. There needs to be 25,000 signatures for the White
House to respond. They are 23,000 + short. Sign up if you would like an explanation
of how they came up with the $100 fee. There is a May 16 deadline to raise
the required number of signatures. I copied the address off the White House
website:
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> https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/explain-detail-its-continued-push-100-segment-aviation-user-fee/jKggNYsT?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
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| Subject: | Re: White House user fee petition |
Wasn't this already done? I understand the white house ignored. Nonetheless
I am signing again.
Bill
http://m.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2011/110926-grass-roots-petition-launched-to-kill-user-fee-threat.html
On Apr 28, 2012 10:45 AM, "David Leikam" <arplnplt@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Done.
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> Dave Leikam
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> On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
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> > There is a petition on the White House website asking for an explanation
> of the proposed $100 user fee. There needs to be 25,000 signatures for the
> White House to respond. They are 23,000 + short. Sign up if you would
> like an explanation of how they came up with the $100 fee. There is a May
> 16 deadline to raise the required number of signatures. I copied the
> address off the White House website:
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> https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/explain-detail-its-continued-push-100-segment-aviation-user-fee/jKggNYsT?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
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| Subject: | Re: White House user fee petition |
That petition only got 8904 signatures. That is short of the 25000
needed for this petition. However I recall that only 5000 signatures
were needed to have a petition considered. Have they raised the bar or
have I lowered my recall?
On 4/28/2012 9:53 AM, William Greenley wrote:
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> Wasn't this already done? I understand the white house ignored.
> Nonetheless I am signing again.
> Bill
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> http://m.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2011/110926-grass-roots-petition-launched-to-kill-user-fee-threat.html
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> On Apr 28, 2012 10:45 AM, "David Leikam" <arplnplt@gmail.com
> <mailto:arplnplt@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> <mailto:arplnplt@gmail.com>>
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> Done.
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> Dave Leikam
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> On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
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> <saolesen@sirentel.net <mailto:saolesen@sirentel.net>>
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> > There is a petition on the White House website asking for an
> explanation of the proposed $100 user fee. There needs to be
> 25,000 signatures for the White House to respond. They are 23,000
> + short. Sign up if you would like an explanation of how they
> came up with the $100 fee. There is a May 16 deadline to raise the
> required number of signatures. I copied the address off the White
> House website:
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> https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/explain-detail-its-continued-push-100-segment-aviation-user-fee/jKggNYsT?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
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| Subject: | Re: White House user fee petition |
Added one more vote.
Progress again after about a year of waffling whether to sell.
Mazda 20B installed, exhaust mfld done, intake mfld need final welding next week,
then design oil cooler mount and make hoses for oil & water cooling. Only
6 more months, IF I keep my nose to the grindstone !!
Phil (busy moving house & plane 3 miles away) White
Downers Grove, IL #40220
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| Subject: | Re: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed |
Some of the features that are unique to the rv-10 that might be worth watching;
unique cowling cooling outlets
left rear seat gull wing door, certainly gives some loading advantages
aerodynamic wing tip
t-tail
ballistic parachute
claimed 1000nm range
12% faster cruise with 210 hp 4 cylinder
probably designed around the IO390
similarities
the gull wings are very similar to rv-10 that I suspect will have the same problems/challenges.
surprising load very similar to rv-10
of course all of these are assertions, but impressive if proven true
should offer a competitive alternative to the high end SR22 and Corvalis market,
not quite as fast, but 40% less fuel burn should make it very attractive
offering a kit should hit into the rv-10 market a bit too, pricey, but the quick
build will probably be pretty quick with composite parts.
cjay
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| Subject: | Re: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed |
If you really want some revolutionary claims, check this one out:
LP1
http://www.woodward-aerospace.com/lp1.html
$200K build cost (similar to rv-10)
334 ktas on 14.5 gph
designed around the corvette v8 engine block
which makes it faster than a lot of these multi-million $$ turbine/jets at a fraction
the cost and fuel burn:
Diamond D-Jet 315 ktas 70 gph
Epic LT 350 ktas 70 gph
Evolution Turbine 320 ktas 40 gph
Cessna Mustang 340 ktas 120 gph
Piper Meridian 260 ktas 45 gph
Propjet DLX 250 ktas 35 gph
TBM 850 320 ktas 65 gph
Can anyone explain how this is possible if even believable?
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| Subject: | Re: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed |
The development photos are quite impressive. The designer is not a pilot which
is both refreshing and disturbing all at the same time.
I am going to keep my eye on it.
Robin
Sent from the new iPad
On Apr 28, 2012, at 7:53 PM, "cjay" <cgfinney@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> If you really want some revolutionary claims, check this one out:
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> LP1
> http://www.woodward-aerospace.com/lp1.html
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> $200K build cost (similar to rv-10)
> 334 ktas on 14.5 gph
> designed around the corvette v8 engine block
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> which makes it faster than a lot of these multi-million $$ turbine/jets at a
fraction the cost and fuel burn:
> Diamond D-Jet 315 ktas 70 gph
> Epic LT 350 ktas 70 gph
> Evolution Turbine 320 ktas 40 gph
> Cessna Mustang 340 ktas 120 gph
> Piper Meridian 260 ktas 45 gph
> Propjet DLX 250 ktas 35 gph
> TBM 850 320 ktas 65 gph
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> Can anyone explain how this is possible if even believable?
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