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1. 12:46 AM - Re: RV8-List: Fuel vent modification (John Ciolino)
2. 04:00 AM - Re: Re: Fuel vent modification (Carl Froehlich)
3. 06:20 AM - Re: Fuel vent modification (Michael Sausen)
4. 06:44 AM - Deutschland (Fred Williams, M.D.)
5. 06:56 AM - Re: Fuel vent modification (Kelly McMullen)
6. 07:38 AM - Re: Storing wings vertically? (Phil White)
7. 08:20 AM - Re: Foreflight with Stratus Review (Tim Olson)
8. 08:35 AM - Re: Re: Fuel vent modification (Tim Olson)
9. 09:07 AM - Re: Fuel vent modification (DLM)
10. 10:20 AM - Re: Foreflight with Stratus Review (Jesse Saint)
11. 12:57 PM - Re: Foreflight with Stratus Review (Kelly McMullen)
12. 01:04 PM - Re: Fuel vent modification (Dj Merrill)
13. 02:07 PM - Re: Storing wings vertically? (Bill Strahan)
14. 03:39 PM - Re: Foreflight with Stratus Review (cjay)
15. 05:04 PM - Re: Storing wings vertically? (Bob Turner)
16. 05:30 PM - Re: Storing wings vertically? (johngoodman)
17. 05:33 PM - Re: Foreflight with Stratus Review (johngoodman)
18. 07:46 PM - Re: Re: Storing wings vertically? (Kelly McMullen)
19. 10:41 PM - Re: Storing wings vertically? (Bill Strahan)
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| Subject: | RE: RV8-List: Fuel vent modification |
An alternate method: flare the end of the tube, cut a circular patch of
flexible fiberglass screening and make radial cuts leaving center =BC=94
uncut.
The cuts will allow you to wrap the screen around the tube overlapping
the
cut pieces. Secure the screen with a piece of shrink tubing.
Easy to do, lasts a long time (2 years so far on my -8) but can be
easily
replaced if necessary.
John Ciolino
RV-8
N894Y
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[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 5:54 PM
rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV8-List: Fuel vent modification
Here is a simple way to keep mud-dabbers from clogging your fuel vent.
I
think more than one RV has collapsed a fuel tank from a clogged vent.
Take a few inches of 3/8=94 aluminum tubing, cut one end at 45 degrees
or so,
then JB Weld on a piece of aluminum window screen material. Once the JB
Weld is cured, clean up the edge on a ScotchBrite wheel or similar. Do
a =BE=94
cut in the other end for a hose clamp, then slide this over the now
somewhat
shortened standard =BC=94 vent tubing. Have the =BC=94 tubing extend
well past
where the clamp goes.
Carl
RV-8A (800 hours)
RV-10 (FSDO comes to inspect May 23rd)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vent modification |
Yep, the 1/4" tubing is just too small to do this. I think I will add the small
hole for the ice issue.
I've had this vent mod on my 8A for 10 years - works fine.
Carl
On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:21 PM, "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com> wrote:
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> That looks like a great solution, Carl. I have tried to use JB Weld to glue a
similar piece of window screen on the existing vent, and it is so small that
it is difficult to get the screen to stay in place.
> It seems to me that the #50 hole on the back of the tube inside the wing root
would work as a way to prevent ice from blocking your vent tube, but couldn't
a mud dauber go past the hole and do it's thing? I also think I would prefer
not to have a vent inside the fairing because of the potential for fumes or avgas
venting inside the fairing.
>
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> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
> Transition Trainer
> New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Fuel vent modification |
For anyone that lives in an area where these critters are common, I highl
y recommend you do something to keep them from blocking your vent. I had o
ne block the crankcase vent on my motorcycle years ago and it took me two t
rips to the dealership to try and figure out why I had oil coming up the cl
utch cable before one of the guys said check your breather for mud daubers
and sure enough, it was plugged tight. Couple of good raps on the tube and
a whole lot of dirt later and the problem went away. I'm confident that o
ne of these guys could cause a tank collapse from the vacuum.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel vent modification
Here is a simple way to keep mud-dabbers from clogging your fuel vent. I t
hink more than one RV has collapsed a fuel tank from a clogged vent.
Take a few inches of 3/8" aluminum tubing, cut one end at 45 degrees or so,
then JB Weld on a piece of aluminum window screen material. Once the JB W
eld is cured, clean up the edge on a ScotchBrite wheel or similar. Do a
=BE" cut in the other end for a hose clamp, then slide this over the now so
mewhat shortened standard =BC" vent tubing. Have the =BC" tubing extend we
ll past where the clamp goes.
Carl
RV-8A (800 hours)
RV-10 (FSDO comes to inspect May 23rd)
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I will be over in Germany next week, north of Frankfurt. Any RV 10
builders over there? It would be fun to see another project across the
pond. Send me an email.
Dr Fred
N515 FW
drfred1960@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vent modification |
There just might be some pitot tube covers that would do the trick. Old
aircraft from the post WWII era had pitots that were just 1/4" tubing,
like the Cessnas of that era. Reminds me, should check with airport
maintenance...they collect pitot covers by the dozens off the runways.......
On 4/30/2012 6:18 AM, Michael Sausen wrote:
>
> For anyone that lives in an area where these critters are common, I
> highly recommend you do something to keep them from blocking your
> vent. I had one block the crankcase vent on my motorcycle years ago
> and it took me two trips to the dealership to try and figure out why I
> had oil coming up the clutch cable before one of the guys said check
> your breather for mud daubers and sure enough, it was plugged tight.
> Couple of good raps on the tube and a whole lot of dirt later and the
> problem went away. Im confident that one of these guys could cause a
> tank collapse from the vacuum.
>
> Michael
>
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| Subject: | Re: Storing wings vertically? |
Bill: The attached photo shows my wing cradle (sorry for the clutter in front;
a challenge of building in a garage). It was made from wood scraps. Plywood
cut to leading-edge curves, with the two wings bottom out, and a slot in the
center for the horizontal stab. Cutouts lined with felt strips. (Some have
made carpet slings instead of using plywood.) Another ply piece at the bottom
to keep things squared up, with casters underneath. Then joined by a 2 x 4
to put them about 8' apart, plus a diagonal brace to keep the vertical ply straight
up.
With the 4" casters, it has been rolled two blocks away to another garage for
storage when I was moving. Also made it easy to roll up onto a trailer for moving.
Phil White
#40220
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight with Stratus Review |
I had an update to WingX that I downloaded this weekend.
In the notes it says that it now supports ADS-B Traffic.
I know Foreflight says they will NOT support traffic
and do not plan to. They have their reasons for this.
At any rate, it now is another differentiating factor
between the 2 apps. I do NOT have ADS-B on my WingX,
(I feel that having ADS-B/WX integrated in the panel is
much better than having it on a separate device, if
possible) so I can't comment on how it works. I also
do not know if it works with the Stratus device or not.
But, I just wanted to pass on this tidbit since it is
also new information.
Tim
On 4/27/2012 7:51 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> And I use my iPad with both Foreflight and WingX (and I had skycharts on
> there long ago too but never use it anymore). I also use mine for
> work (remote access) a bunch, and it's also an entertainment device on
> vacations....movies mostly. So for me, 32Gb would be a minimum,
> and 64Gb is do-able. In fact, my biggest complaint about the iPhone
> and iPad is that I wish each had one model higher in capacity.
> I could really use 64Gb on my iPhone, and I'd love a 128Gb iPad.
> It's the primary reason I didn't buy an iPhone 4S and "New" iPad...had
> they increased the capacity I'd have bought one the first day.
>
> So Robin is right....you can really save money and if you only want
> to use it for flying and some minor things, a 16Gb model would work
> but we aware that you will only be able to have one major app on
> there for flight software, most likely. I'd *always* recommend
> the 3G/4G models because even when just in the car the built-in
> GPS is worth the extra, if you use it for any navigation or mapping.
> (I keep a road GPS app on there too, with all US coverage)
> So for many non-entertainment users, 32Gb would be a logical happy
> medium. If you have kids though, spring for the biggest one you
> can find. We loaded all of our iPads and iPhones up with movies
> and entertainment for our last trip and it was nice to have.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 4/27/2012 7:23 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the comments on the 3 different iPads. I will comment on
>> the 16GB version, which I have in the iPad 2. I do wish I had the 32GB
>> version. That is probably one of the main reasons I have not used
>> WingX much. I was given a subscription to the charts for a year, but
>> because I can't download all of the charts for both Foreflight and
>> WingX (I usually try to keep most or all of the US charts downloaded
>> on Foreflight all the time, even though I very seldom fly out West) as
>> well as keep my other apps on the iPad. I do use the iPad for a lot
>> more than just flying, so if you are just flying, then 16GB should be
>> plenty, but if you want to have movies, audio, lots of apps, etc on
>> the iPad as well as Foreflight (uses a lot more storage than WingX),
>> then you might want to look at 32GB. Just my 2 cents (can't find the
>> cents key on my Macbook).
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> C: 352-427-0285
>> F: 815-377-3694
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jesse. I just wanted to piggyback on your comments with an
>>> iPad observation. Having owned all three (1, 2& New) I really like
>>> the reduced cost of the iPad 2 3G. Don't get me wrong the New iPad is
>>> nice with 4G and the retina screen but it does get hotter that it's
>>> predecessors for sure and the minor weight difference is noticeable.
>>> The New is definitely an improvement in screen and speed but the iPad
>>> 2 seems to do it all quite well and with a minimum $100 savings. I
>>> say minimum because you can only get the 2 in a 16GB unit. When you
>>> buy the New iPad you may be temped to get the 32 or 64GB as I did for
>>> a mere $829.00 before mandatory cover. So $529.00 vs. $829.00. I know
>>> Tim O would chime in with the need for extra storage but I have done
>>> everything I needed wo going over my 16 GB with a little memory
>>> management.
>>> So my 2 (can't find the cents key on my iPad) are you have a choice
>>> between good and better. You can't lose.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>> Sent from the new iPad
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 7:33 PM, "Jesse Saint"<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I received my Stratus unit from Sporty's the other day and wanted to
>>>> give a report on my impressions for the group. I know there is a lot
>>>> of debate over which app is best for the iPad, especially with the
>>>> new Garmin app released at Sun-N-Fun, but I'm going to try not to
>>>> get into that beyond this statement. I have used Foreflight since
>>>> version 1 or 2 and have only tried WingX a little. Because I am used
>>>> to Foreflight and the navigation and functionality, I have not liked
>>>> my experiences with WingX, but as has been said before, we like what
>>>> we are used to. I use Foreflight for all of my flight planning (I
>>>> usually use www.weathermeister.com<http://www.weathermeister.com>
>>>> for keeping up with the weather for my trip, but use Foreflight for
>>>> all actually route planning, flight plan filing, and charts and
>>>> plates while flying). I have Foreflight on my iPad 2 Wifi and iPhone
>>>> 4. I have used a bluetooth GPS that required jailbreaking the iPad,
>>>> but when that broke (left it on the gla!
>
> rs!
>> hield in the Florida sun for 3-4 hours one day and the battery swelled
>> and broke the case), I bought the Bad Elf. I wasn't very happy with
>> the Bad Elf because I didn't like having it attached to the iPad in
>> use, especially when bouncing around in IMC. I almost pulled the
>> trigger on the new iPad, in which case I would have bought the 4G
>> version, but when I didn't get the call from MacMall on the day they
>> were starting to ship (like they promised they would), I didn't follow
>> through with the purchase.
>>>>
>>>> I was walking through the hangars at Sun-N-Fun and saw the Stratus
>>>> on the first day. After a short talk with a friend of mine, we
>>>> decided to buy it. We had both been saying that as soon as there was
>>>> a portable ADS-B box that worked with Foreflight, we would get it.
>>>> We split the cost and ordered it as well as the external antenna
>>>> (which we haven't received yet). We mainly wanted ADS-B for weather,
>>>> because we were almost to the point of getting the unit that would
>>>> get XM weather onto the iPad, but liked the thought of no
>>>> subscription better.
>>>>
>>>> We just made a flight in N33DQ (Cessna 182) from Arkansas to Florida
>>>> through a lot of IMC, but it was a couple of days too early for the
>>>> Stratus. That would be the real test, especially because of the
>>>> ADS-B service areas and all of the local radar activity.
>>>> Unfortunately, the screen shots I have now are shots with no rain
>>>> within 250nm or more of where I was flying, and not a cloud in the
>>>> sky, but I will share some of them anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Now, for my experience with the Stratus. YMMV, but this is my
>>>> thought after my short time using it.
>>>>
>>>> For the cost, I think it's about as cheap as any ADS-B unit that I
>>>> have seen, and I figured it would cost about the same as a year work
>>>> of activation and subscription to XM with the better plan, not
>>>> counting the XM hardware.
>>>>
>>>> As far as what coverage is available through ADS-B, I was pleasantly
>>>> surprised to find out today that winds aloft are actually available.
>>>> There are no lightning strikes or Echo Tops, but METARSs, TAFs,
>>>> NOTAMs, Winds Aloft, Radar (high resolution regional and low
>>>> resolution nationwide) and PIREPs are all available (among a few
>>>> other things that I usually don't spend much time with). Personally
>>>> I really like flying with Echo Tops in the -10 because it usually
>>>> accurately lets me know if I will be able to get over the tops or
>>>> will have to go through. Lightning would be nice to have, but
>>>> usually avoiding the red nexrad (which is a good idea) will keep you
>>>> away from most strikes (which is a very good idea), in my
>>>> experience. I will miss those two features, but the most important
>>>> features for me are METARs, TAFs and Radar.
>>>>
>>>> We took off from X35 with the Stratus on the glare shield of the
>>>> RV-10 and watched the LED's on the unit as well as the indication in
>>>> Foreflight of when we got a signal. We got the signal at about 5-600
>>>> feet AGL. Remember that we are in central Florida, so the ADS-B
>>>> coverage here is very good. We had as many as 9 stations at a time
>>>> in our short flight up to 5,500 feet MSL. I really like the Status
>>>> page (see attached pictures) that gives you the information on the
>>>> Stratus. It shows the connectivity, battery status, power source,
>>>> etc and then gives information on what data has been downloaded and
>>>> how long ago. It also shows the grid of satellites that the unit is
>>>> receiving location from and how good the signal is. The accuracy of
>>>> location, including GPS altitude, is the best I have seen among the
>>>> bluetooth GPS, Bad Elf, onboard GPS and the Stratus, with Accuracy
>>>> usually 1-2m.
>>>>
>>>> As you can see from the pictures attached, and as I have already
>>>> mentioned, the weather here was way too good to get great pictures
>>>> as to the usefulness of the Stratus, but it's the best I can offer
>>>> so far. I usually just keep up the map screen with the Radar and
>>>> Flight Rules shown. For information on a specific airport, you can
>>>> just tap on the dot and it will pull up the Metar (and TAF and Winds
>>>> Aloft if available). If you scroll down on the pop-up, you can see
>>>> the METARs of other local airports, as well as how old the report
>>>> is. We must have been getting some medium and/or high altitude ADS-B
>>>> stations, because we were getting national CONUS Radar as well as a
>>>> good range of METARs, PIREPs, etc.
>>>>
>>>> If you zoom out on the map, only the bigger airport Flight Rules
>>>> show up. If you zoom in, it shows everywhere that reports. It will
>>>> also paint the surface winds, cielings, temperature, dew point
>>>> spread, cloud cover, etc. the same way that it does the Flight
>>>> Rules, but this display is my favorite for overall information. It
>>>> will only show one of these at a time, as well as Radar at the same
>>>> time. It will also show TFR's on the map for those who aren't flying
>>>> "in the system".
>>>>
>>>> My overall impression is very good. I am looking forward to taking a
>>>> trip outside the normally shown coverage area, especially after I
>>>> get the external antenna, so I can see how accurate the coverage
>>>> maps are in the 10-18,000 foot range. One nice thing is that if you
>>>> are going through a relatively small area of weak coverage, the
>>>> information stays on the iPad. It just doesn't update, so you still
>>>> should have information, which will start updating as soon as you
>>>> get back within coverage.
>>>>
>>>> The battery on the Stratus has been quite impressive so far. It
>>>> comes with a USB cable for charging, as well as an AC adapter, but
>>>> in a 45 minute flight the battery was still in the 90%'s. It seemed
>>>> to stay put really well on the glare shield and it is low profile,
>>>> so it doesn't get in my way at all for flying.
>>>>
>>>> Can it replace XM? In my opinion, for a great deal of my flying,
>>>> yes, mainly because of where I live and where and how I fly. I much
>>>> prefer the screen size of the iPad to the Garmin Aera, and I like
>>>> the interface much better than the Aera. As an all-in-one unit for
>>>> flight planning, preflight weather, enroute charts, plates, enroute
>>>> weather (with the Stratus), I haven't used anything I think would
>>>> work better (especially for moving from plane to plane) than the
>>>> iPad, Foreflight and the Stratus. It is not for everybody, but for
>>>> those within the coverage area, who move from plane to plane, who
>>>> don't want to have the monthly subscription, I highly recommend it
>>>> based on my experience so far. I'll try to post again after I have
>>>> taken it on a longer trip through some IMC.
>>>>
>>>> One thing I would really like to see in Foreflight would be a Winds
>>>> Aloft display on the map, like with most XM products. They have
>>>> surface winds at airports, which helps, but picking an altitude with
>>>> Winds Aloft information would help. It does calculate Time Enroute
>>>> and overall wind effect for your route in the route planner, so I
>>>> guess you could pick different altitudes and see which one would be
>>>> fastest, but it would be nice to have a chart (like on the Flight
>>>> Cheetah, for the few of you who might have flown with it).
>>>>
>>>> Jesse Saint
>>>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>>>> jesse@saintaviation.com<mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>>> C: 352-427-0285
>>>> F: 815-377-3694
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vent modification |
You'd still have to protect the hole from Mud Daubers if you
are in an area where that is something that can happen, but,
there is a way to do a vent in the wing root that shouldn't
cause fume issues:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090525/index.html
I have a one-way checkvalve in there so that if the vent
ices over, I can't have a vacuum collapse on the tank.
I saw this one from the Lancair builders.
Tim
On 4/29/2012 8:21 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "dmaib@me.com"<dmaib@me.com>
>
> That looks like a great solution, Carl. I have tried to use JB Weld to glue a
similar piece of window screen on the existing vent, and it is so small that
it is difficult to get the screen to stay in place.
> It seems to me that the #50 hole on the back of the tube inside the wing root
would work as a way to prevent ice from blocking your vent tube, but couldn't
a mud dauber go past the hole and do it's thing? I also think I would prefer
not to have a vent inside the fairing because of the potential for fumes or avgas
venting inside the fairing.
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
> Transition Trainer
> New Smyrna Beach, FL
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372110#372110
>
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| Subject: | Fuel vent modification |
Another area for blockages is the end of the fuel quick drains; at 1H0 I
left the Glastar overnight and returned the next day to an egg sac inside
the hole where the fuel cup pin is inserted. Gasoline takes a while to clean
it out; usually quicker to change drains and soak the fitting in acetone or
gasoline overnight.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel vent modification
There just might be some pitot tube covers that would do the trick. Old
aircraft from the post WWII era had pitots that were just 1/4" tubing,
like the Cessnas of that era. Reminds me, should check with airport
maintenance...they collect pitot covers by the dozens off the runways.......
On 4/30/2012 6:18 AM, Michael Sausen wrote:
>
> For anyone that lives in an area where these critters are common, I
> highly recommend you do something to keep them from blocking your
> vent. I had one block the crankcase vent on my motorcycle years ago
> and it took me two trips to the dealership to try and figure out why I
> had oil coming up the clutch cable before one of the guys said check
> your breather for mud daubers and sure enough, it was plugged tight.
> Couple of good raps on the tube and a whole lot of dirt later and the
> problem went away. I'm confident that one of these guys could cause a
> tank collapse from the vacuum.
>
> Michael
>
> ****
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight with Stratus Review |
I did talk to Foreflight about traffic, and they referred me to the following explanation
of how ADS-B traffic works and why they do not support it:
http://blog.foreflight.com/2012/04/01/pings-pucks-and-why-no-traffic-on-stratus/
Makes sense to me that without ADS-B out, the traffic information will be far from
complete, giving a false sense of security. If you have a way of getting the
ADS-B info from the Navworx box into WingX, then that would be very nice, but
without ADS-B out, you would only get occasional traffic, not all of it. I
have wondered how having ADS-B out makes a difference, but now I understand it.
I had heard that initially the traffic didn't require ADS-B out, but then I
heard that some southern Florida stations did require it, and that other stations
were going to start requiring it.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I had an update to WingX that I downloaded this weekend.
> In the notes it says that it now supports ADS-B Traffic.
> I know Foreflight says they will NOT support traffic
> and do not plan to. They have their reasons for this.
> At any rate, it now is another differentiating factor
> between the 2 apps. I do NOT have ADS-B on my WingX,
> (I feel that having ADS-B/WX integrated in the panel is
> much better than having it on a separate device, if
> possible) so I can't comment on how it works. I also
> do not know if it works with the Stratus device or not.
> But, I just wanted to pass on this tidbit since it is
> also new information.
> Tim
>
>
> On 4/27/2012 7:51 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> And I use my iPad with both Foreflight and WingX (and I had skycharts on
>> there long ago too but never use it anymore). I also use mine for
>> work (remote access) a bunch, and it's also an entertainment device on
>> vacations....movies mostly. So for me, 32Gb would be a minimum,
>> and 64Gb is do-able. In fact, my biggest complaint about the iPhone
>> and iPad is that I wish each had one model higher in capacity.
>> I could really use 64Gb on my iPhone, and I'd love a 128Gb iPad.
>> It's the primary reason I didn't buy an iPhone 4S and "New" iPad...had
>> they increased the capacity I'd have bought one the first day.
>>
>> So Robin is right....you can really save money and if you only want
>> to use it for flying and some minor things, a 16Gb model would work
>> but we aware that you will only be able to have one major app on
>> there for flight software, most likely. I'd *always* recommend
>> the 3G/4G models because even when just in the car the built-in
>> GPS is worth the extra, if you use it for any navigation or mapping.
>> (I keep a road GPS app on there too, with all US coverage)
>> So for many non-entertainment users, 32Gb would be a logical happy
>> medium. If you have kids though, spring for the biggest one you
>> can find. We loaded all of our iPads and iPhones up with movies
>> and entertainment for our last trip and it was nice to have.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 4/27/2012 7:23 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the comments on the 3 different iPads. I will comment on
>>> the 16GB version, which I have in the iPad 2. I do wish I had the 32GB
>>> version. That is probably one of the main reasons I have not used
>>> WingX much. I was given a subscription to the charts for a year, but
>>> because I can't download all of the charts for both Foreflight and
>>> WingX (I usually try to keep most or all of the US charts downloaded
>>> on Foreflight all the time, even though I very seldom fly out West) as
>>> well as keep my other apps on the iPad. I do use the iPad for a lot
>>> more than just flying, so if you are just flying, then 16GB should be
>>> plenty, but if you want to have movies, audio, lots of apps, etc on
>>> the iPad as well as Foreflight (uses a lot more storage than WingX),
>>> then you might want to look at 32GB. Just my 2 cents (can't find the
>>> cents key on my Macbook).
>>>
>>> Jesse Saint
>>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>>> C: 352-427-0285
>>> F: 815-377-3694
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Jesse. I just wanted to piggyback on your comments with an
>>>> iPad observation. Having owned all three (1, 2& New) I really like
>>>> the reduced cost of the iPad 2 3G. Don't get me wrong the New iPad is
>>>> nice with 4G and the retina screen but it does get hotter that it's
>>>> predecessors for sure and the minor weight difference is noticeable.
>>>> The New is definitely an improvement in screen and speed but the iPad
>>>> 2 seems to do it all quite well and with a minimum $100 savings. I
>>>> say minimum because you can only get the 2 in a 16GB unit. When you
>>>> buy the New iPad you may be temped to get the 32 or 64GB as I did for
>>>> a mere $829.00 before mandatory cover. So $529.00 vs. $829.00. I know
>>>> Tim O would chime in with the need for extra storage but I have done
>>>> everything I needed wo going over my 16 GB with a little memory
>>>> management.
>>>> So my 2 (can't find the cents key on my iPad) are you have a choice
>>>> between good and better. You can't lose.
>>>>
>>>> Robin
>>>> Sent from the new iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 7:33 PM, "Jesse Saint"<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I received my Stratus unit from Sporty's the other day and wanted to
>>>>> give a report on my impressions for the group. I know there is a lot
>>>>> of debate over which app is best for the iPad, especially with the
>>>>> new Garmin app released at Sun-N-Fun, but I'm going to try not to
>>>>> get into that beyond this statement. I have used Foreflight since
>>>>> version 1 or 2 and have only tried WingX a little. Because I am used
>>>>> to Foreflight and the navigation and functionality, I have not liked
>>>>> my experiences with WingX, but as has been said before, we like what
>>>>> we are used to. I use Foreflight for all of my flight planning (I
>>>>> usually use www.weathermeister.com<http://www.weathermeister.com>
>>>>> for keeping up with the weather for my trip, but use Foreflight for
>>>>> all actually route planning, flight plan filing, and charts and
>>>>> plates while flying). I have Foreflight on my iPad 2 Wifi and iPhone
>>>>> 4. I have used a bluetooth GPS that required jailbreaking the iPad,
>>>>> but when that broke (left it on the gla!
>>
>> rs!
>>> hield in the Florida sun for 3-4 hours one day and the battery swelled
>>> and broke the case), I bought the Bad Elf. I wasn't very happy with
>>> the Bad Elf because I didn't like having it attached to the iPad in
>>> use, especially when bouncing around in IMC. I almost pulled the
>>> trigger on the new iPad, in which case I would have bought the 4G
>>> version, but when I didn't get the call from MacMall on the day they
>>> were starting to ship (like they promised they would), I didn't follow
>>> through with the purchase.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was walking through the hangars at Sun-N-Fun and saw the Stratus
>>>>> on the first day. After a short talk with a friend of mine, we
>>>>> decided to buy it. We had both been saying that as soon as there was
>>>>> a portable ADS-B box that worked with Foreflight, we would get it.
>>>>> We split the cost and ordered it as well as the external antenna
>>>>> (which we haven't received yet). We mainly wanted ADS-B for weather,
>>>>> because we were almost to the point of getting the unit that would
>>>>> get XM weather onto the iPad, but liked the thought of no
>>>>> subscription better.
>>>>>
>>>>> We just made a flight in N33DQ (Cessna 182) from Arkansas to Florida
>>>>> through a lot of IMC, but it was a couple of days too early for the
>>>>> Stratus. That would be the real test, especially because of the
>>>>> ADS-B service areas and all of the local radar activity.
>>>>> Unfortunately, the screen shots I have now are shots with no rain
>>>>> within 250nm or more of where I was flying, and not a cloud in the
>>>>> sky, but I will share some of them anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, for my experience with the Stratus. YMMV, but this is my
>>>>> thought after my short time using it.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the cost, I think it's about as cheap as any ADS-B unit that I
>>>>> have seen, and I figured it would cost about the same as a year work
>>>>> of activation and subscription to XM with the better plan, not
>>>>> counting the XM hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as what coverage is available through ADS-B, I was pleasantly
>>>>> surprised to find out today that winds aloft are actually available.
>>>>> There are no lightning strikes or Echo Tops, but METARSs, TAFs,
>>>>> NOTAMs, Winds Aloft, Radar (high resolution regional and low
>>>>> resolution nationwide) and PIREPs are all available (among a few
>>>>> other things that I usually don't spend much time with). Personally
>>>>> I really like flying with Echo Tops in the -10 because it usually
>>>>> accurately lets me know if I will be able to get over the tops or
>>>>> will have to go through. Lightning would be nice to have, but
>>>>> usually avoiding the red nexrad (which is a good idea) will keep you
>>>>> away from most strikes (which is a very good idea), in my
>>>>> experience. I will miss those two features, but the most important
>>>>> features for me are METARs, TAFs and Radar.
>>>>>
>>>>> We took off from X35 with the Stratus on the glare shield of the
>>>>> RV-10 and watched the LED's on the unit as well as the indication in
>>>>> Foreflight of when we got a signal. We got the signal at about 5-600
>>>>> feet AGL. Remember that we are in central Florida, so the ADS-B
>>>>> coverage here is very good. We had as many as 9 stations at a time
>>>>> in our short flight up to 5,500 feet MSL. I really like the Status
>>>>> page (see attached pictures) that gives you the information on the
>>>>> Stratus. It shows the connectivity, battery status, power source,
>>>>> etc and then gives information on what data has been downloaded and
>>>>> how long ago. It also shows the grid of satellites that the unit is
>>>>> receiving location from and how good the signal is. The accuracy of
>>>>> location, including GPS altitude, is the best I have seen among the
>>>>> bluetooth GPS, Bad Elf, onboard GPS and the Stratus, with Accuracy
>>>>> usually 1-2m.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you can see from the pictures attached, and as I have already
>>>>> mentioned, the weather here was way too good to get great pictures
>>>>> as to the usefulness of the Stratus, but it's the best I can offer
>>>>> so far. I usually just keep up the map screen with the Radar and
>>>>> Flight Rules shown. For information on a specific airport, you can
>>>>> just tap on the dot and it will pull up the Metar (and TAF and Winds
>>>>> Aloft if available). If you scroll down on the pop-up, you can see
>>>>> the METARs of other local airports, as well as how old the report
>>>>> is. We must have been getting some medium and/or high altitude ADS-B
>>>>> stations, because we were getting national CONUS Radar as well as a
>>>>> good range of METARs, PIREPs, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you zoom out on the map, only the bigger airport Flight Rules
>>>>> show up. If you zoom in, it shows everywhere that reports. It will
>>>>> also paint the surface winds, cielings, temperature, dew point
>>>>> spread, cloud cover, etc. the same way that it does the Flight
>>>>> Rules, but this display is my favorite for overall information. It
>>>>> will only show one of these at a time, as well as Radar at the same
>>>>> time. It will also show TFR's on the map for those who aren't flying
>>>>> "in the system".
>>>>>
>>>>> My overall impression is very good. I am looking forward to taking a
>>>>> trip outside the normally shown coverage area, especially after I
>>>>> get the external antenna, so I can see how accurate the coverage
>>>>> maps are in the 10-18,000 foot range. One nice thing is that if you
>>>>> are going through a relatively small area of weak coverage, the
>>>>> information stays on the iPad. It just doesn't update, so you still
>>>>> should have information, which will start updating as soon as you
>>>>> get back within coverage.
>>>>>
>>>>> The battery on the Stratus has been quite impressive so far. It
>>>>> comes with a USB cable for charging, as well as an AC adapter, but
>>>>> in a 45 minute flight the battery was still in the 90%'s. It seemed
>>>>> to stay put really well on the glare shield and it is low profile,
>>>>> so it doesn't get in my way at all for flying.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can it replace XM? In my opinion, for a great deal of my flying,
>>>>> yes, mainly because of where I live and where and how I fly. I much
>>>>> prefer the screen size of the iPad to the Garmin Aera, and I like
>>>>> the interface much better than the Aera. As an all-in-one unit for
>>>>> flight planning, preflight weather, enroute charts, plates, enroute
>>>>> weather (with the Stratus), I haven't used anything I think would
>>>>> work better (especially for moving from plane to plane) than the
>>>>> iPad, Foreflight and the Stratus. It is not for everybody, but for
>>>>> those within the coverage area, who move from plane to plane, who
>>>>> don't want to have the monthly subscription, I highly recommend it
>>>>> based on my experience so far. I'll try to post again after I have
>>>>> taken it on a longer trip through some IMC.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I would really like to see in Foreflight would be a Winds
>>>>> Aloft display on the map, like with most XM products. They have
>>>>> surface winds at airports, which helps, but picking an altitude with
>>>>> Winds Aloft information would help. It does calculate Time Enroute
>>>>> and overall wind effect for your route in the route planner, so I
>>>>> guess you could pick different altitudes and see which one would be
>>>>> fastest, but it would be nice to have a chart (like on the Flight
>>>>> Cheetah, for the few of you who might have flown with it).
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesse Saint
>>>>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>>>>> jesse@saintaviation.com<mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>>>> C: 352-427-0285
>>>>> F: 815-377-3694
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight with Stratus Review |
The person that wrote that blog simply does not believe how many
aircraft already have certified ADS-B out transponders. ALL Embry Riddle
aircraft have it, many corporate aircraft have it. So what if you don't
receive ALL traffic. Getting some traffic in lieu of getting NO traffic
is a plus in my estimation. The FAA made some mistakes along the way,
between having two separate frequencies, which can not serve the whole
system, unless you have 1090ES out and 978 in, and your out signal is
coded that way. 1090ES supports ONLY traffic, not weather, while 978 out
does not allow above 17500 flight.
On 4/30/2012 10:18 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>
> I did talk to Foreflight about traffic, and they referred me to the following
explanation of how ADS-B traffic works and why they do not support it:
>
> http://blog.foreflight.com/2012/04/01/pings-pucks-and-why-no-traffic-on-stratus/
>
> Makes sense to me that without ADS-B out, the traffic information will be far
from complete, giving a false sense of security. If you have a way of getting
the ADS-B info from the Navworx box into WingX, then that would be very nice,
but without ADS-B out, you would only get occasional traffic, not all of it.
I have wondered how having ADS-B out makes a difference, but now I understand
it. I had heard that initially the traffic didn't require ADS-B out, but then
I heard that some southern Florida stations did require it, and that other stations
were going to start requiring it.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>
>>
>> I had an update to WingX that I downloaded this weekend.
>> In the notes it says that it now supports ADS-B Traffic.
>> I know Foreflight says they will NOT support traffic
>> and do not plan to. They have their reasons for this.
>> At any rate, it now is another differentiating factor
>> between the 2 apps. I do NOT have ADS-B on my WingX,
>> (I feel that having ADS-B/WX integrated in the panel is
>> much better than having it on a separate device, if
>> possible) so I can't comment on how it works. I also
>> do not know if it works with the Stratus device or not.
>> But, I just wanted to pass on this tidbit since it is
>> also new information.
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 4/27/2012 7:51 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com>
>>>
>>> And I use my iPad with both Foreflight and WingX (and I had skycharts on
>>> there long ago too but never use it anymore). I also use mine for
>>> work (remote access) a bunch, and it's also an entertainment device on
>>> vacations....movies mostly. So for me, 32Gb would be a minimum,
>>> and 64Gb is do-able. In fact, my biggest complaint about the iPhone
>>> and iPad is that I wish each had one model higher in capacity.
>>> I could really use 64Gb on my iPhone, and I'd love a 128Gb iPad.
>>> It's the primary reason I didn't buy an iPhone 4S and "New" iPad...had
>>> they increased the capacity I'd have bought one the first day.
>>>
>>> So Robin is right....you can really save money and if you only want
>>> to use it for flying and some minor things, a 16Gb model would work
>>> but we aware that you will only be able to have one major app on
>>> there for flight software, most likely. I'd *always* recommend
>>> the 3G/4G models because even when just in the car the built-in
>>> GPS is worth the extra, if you use it for any navigation or mapping.
>>> (I keep a road GPS app on there too, with all US coverage)
>>> So for many non-entertainment users, 32Gb would be a logical happy
>>> medium. If you have kids though, spring for the biggest one you
>>> can find. We loaded all of our iPads and iPhones up with movies
>>> and entertainment for our last trip and it was nice to have.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/27/2012 7:23 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the comments on the 3 different iPads. I will comment on
>>>> the 16GB version, which I have in the iPad 2. I do wish I had the 32GB
>>>> version. That is probably one of the main reasons I have not used
>>>> WingX much. I was given a subscription to the charts for a year, but
>>>> because I can't download all of the charts for both Foreflight and
>>>> WingX (I usually try to keep most or all of the US charts downloaded
>>>> on Foreflight all the time, even though I very seldom fly out West) as
>>>> well as keep my other apps on the iPad. I do use the iPad for a lot
>>>> more than just flying, so if you are just flying, then 16GB should be
>>>> plenty, but if you want to have movies, audio, lots of apps, etc on
>>>> the iPad as well as Foreflight (uses a lot more storage than WingX),
>>>> then you might want to look at 32GB. Just my 2 cents (can't find the
>>>> cents key on my Macbook).
>>>>
>>>> Jesse Saint
>>>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>>>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>>>> C: 352-427-0285
>>>> F: 815-377-3694
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Jesse. I just wanted to piggyback on your comments with an
>>>>> iPad observation. Having owned all three (1, 2& New) I really like
>>>>> the reduced cost of the iPad 2 3G. Don't get me wrong the New iPad is
>>>>> nice with 4G and the retina screen but it does get hotter that it's
>>>>> predecessors for sure and the minor weight difference is noticeable.
>>>>> The New is definitely an improvement in screen and speed but the iPad
>>>>> 2 seems to do it all quite well and with a minimum $100 savings. I
>>>>> say minimum because you can only get the 2 in a 16GB unit. When you
>>>>> buy the New iPad you may be temped to get the 32 or 64GB as I did for
>>>>> a mere $829.00 before mandatory cover. So $529.00 vs. $829.00. I know
>>>>> Tim O would chime in with the need for extra storage but I have done
>>>>> everything I needed wo going over my 16 GB with a little memory
>>>>> management.
>>>>> So my 2 (can't find the cents key on my iPad) are you have a choice
>>>>> between good and better. You can't lose.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robin
>>>>> Sent from the new iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 7:33 PM, "Jesse Saint"<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I received my Stratus unit from Sporty's the other day and wanted to
>>>>>> give a report on my impressions for the group. I know there is a lot
>>>>>> of debate over which app is best for the iPad, especially with the
>>>>>> new Garmin app released at Sun-N-Fun, but I'm going to try not to
>>>>>> get into that beyond this statement. I have used Foreflight since
>>>>>> version 1 or 2 and have only tried WingX a little. Because I am used
>>>>>> to Foreflight and the navigation and functionality, I have not liked
>>>>>> my experiences with WingX, but as has been said before, we like what
>>>>>> we are used to. I use Foreflight for all of my flight planning (I
>>>>>> usually use www.weathermeister.com<http://www.weathermeister.com>
>>>>>> for keeping up with the weather for my trip, but use Foreflight for
>>>>>> all actually route planning, flight plan filing, and charts and
>>>>>> plates while flying). I have Foreflight on my iPad 2 Wifi and iPhone
>>>>>> 4. I have used a bluetooth GPS that required jailbreaking the iPad,
>>>>>> but when that broke (left it on the gla!
>>> rs!
>>>> hield in the Florida sun for 3-4 hours one day and the battery swelled
>>>> and broke the case), I bought the Bad Elf. I wasn't very happy with
>>>> the Bad Elf because I didn't like having it attached to the iPad in
>>>> use, especially when bouncing around in IMC. I almost pulled the
>>>> trigger on the new iPad, in which case I would have bought the 4G
>>>> version, but when I didn't get the call from MacMall on the day they
>>>> were starting to ship (like they promised they would), I didn't follow
>>>> through with the purchase.
>>>>>> I was walking through the hangars at Sun-N-Fun and saw the Stratus
>>>>>> on the first day. After a short talk with a friend of mine, we
>>>>>> decided to buy it. We had both been saying that as soon as there was
>>>>>> a portable ADS-B box that worked with Foreflight, we would get it.
>>>>>> We split the cost and ordered it as well as the external antenna
>>>>>> (which we haven't received yet). We mainly wanted ADS-B for weather,
>>>>>> because we were almost to the point of getting the unit that would
>>>>>> get XM weather onto the iPad, but liked the thought of no
>>>>>> subscription better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We just made a flight in N33DQ (Cessna 182) from Arkansas to Florida
>>>>>> through a lot of IMC, but it was a couple of days too early for the
>>>>>> Stratus. That would be the real test, especially because of the
>>>>>> ADS-B service areas and all of the local radar activity.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, the screen shots I have now are shots with no rain
>>>>>> within 250nm or more of where I was flying, and not a cloud in the
>>>>>> sky, but I will share some of them anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, for my experience with the Stratus. YMMV, but this is my
>>>>>> thought after my short time using it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the cost, I think it's about as cheap as any ADS-B unit that I
>>>>>> have seen, and I figured it would cost about the same as a year work
>>>>>> of activation and subscription to XM with the better plan, not
>>>>>> counting the XM hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as what coverage is available through ADS-B, I was pleasantly
>>>>>> surprised to find out today that winds aloft are actually available.
>>>>>> There are no lightning strikes or Echo Tops, but METARSs, TAFs,
>>>>>> NOTAMs, Winds Aloft, Radar (high resolution regional and low
>>>>>> resolution nationwide) and PIREPs are all available (among a few
>>>>>> other things that I usually don't spend much time with). Personally
>>>>>> I really like flying with Echo Tops in the -10 because it usually
>>>>>> accurately lets me know if I will be able to get over the tops or
>>>>>> will have to go through. Lightning would be nice to have, but
>>>>>> usually avoiding the red nexrad (which is a good idea) will keep you
>>>>>> away from most strikes (which is a very good idea), in my
>>>>>> experience. I will miss those two features, but the most important
>>>>>> features for me are METARs, TAFs and Radar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We took off from X35 with the Stratus on the glare shield of the
>>>>>> RV-10 and watched the LED's on the unit as well as the indication in
>>>>>> Foreflight of when we got a signal. We got the signal at about 5-600
>>>>>> feet AGL. Remember that we are in central Florida, so the ADS-B
>>>>>> coverage here is very good. We had as many as 9 stations at a time
>>>>>> in our short flight up to 5,500 feet MSL. I really like the Status
>>>>>> page (see attached pictures) that gives you the information on the
>>>>>> Stratus. It shows the connectivity, battery status, power source,
>>>>>> etc and then gives information on what data has been downloaded and
>>>>>> how long ago. It also shows the grid of satellites that the unit is
>>>>>> receiving location from and how good the signal is. The accuracy of
>>>>>> location, including GPS altitude, is the best I have seen among the
>>>>>> bluetooth GPS, Bad Elf, onboard GPS and the Stratus, with Accuracy
>>>>>> usually 1-2m.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you can see from the pictures attached, and as I have already
>>>>>> mentioned, the weather here was way too good to get great pictures
>>>>>> as to the usefulness of the Stratus, but it's the best I can offer
>>>>>> so far. I usually just keep up the map screen with the Radar and
>>>>>> Flight Rules shown. For information on a specific airport, you can
>>>>>> just tap on the dot and it will pull up the Metar (and TAF and Winds
>>>>>> Aloft if available). If you scroll down on the pop-up, you can see
>>>>>> the METARs of other local airports, as well as how old the report
>>>>>> is. We must have been getting some medium and/or high altitude ADS-B
>>>>>> stations, because we were getting national CONUS Radar as well as a
>>>>>> good range of METARs, PIREPs, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you zoom out on the map, only the bigger airport Flight Rules
>>>>>> show up. If you zoom in, it shows everywhere that reports. It will
>>>>>> also paint the surface winds, cielings, temperature, dew point
>>>>>> spread, cloud cover, etc. the same way that it does the Flight
>>>>>> Rules, but this display is my favorite for overall information. It
>>>>>> will only show one of these at a time, as well as Radar at the same
>>>>>> time. It will also show TFR's on the map for those who aren't flying
>>>>>> "in the system".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My overall impression is very good. I am looking forward to taking a
>>>>>> trip outside the normally shown coverage area, especially after I
>>>>>> get the external antenna, so I can see how accurate the coverage
>>>>>> maps are in the 10-18,000 foot range. One nice thing is that if you
>>>>>> are going through a relatively small area of weak coverage, the
>>>>>> information stays on the iPad. It just doesn't update, so you still
>>>>>> should have information, which will start updating as soon as you
>>>>>> get back within coverage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The battery on the Stratus has been quite impressive so far. It
>>>>>> comes with a USB cable for charging, as well as an AC adapter, but
>>>>>> in a 45 minute flight the battery was still in the 90%'s. It seemed
>>>>>> to stay put really well on the glare shield and it is low profile,
>>>>>> so it doesn't get in my way at all for flying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can it replace XM? In my opinion, for a great deal of my flying,
>>>>>> yes, mainly because of where I live and where and how I fly. I much
>>>>>> prefer the screen size of the iPad to the Garmin Aera, and I like
>>>>>> the interface much better than the Aera. As an all-in-one unit for
>>>>>> flight planning, preflight weather, enroute charts, plates, enroute
>>>>>> weather (with the Stratus), I haven't used anything I think would
>>>>>> work better (especially for moving from plane to plane) than the
>>>>>> iPad, Foreflight and the Stratus. It is not for everybody, but for
>>>>>> those within the coverage area, who move from plane to plane, who
>>>>>> don't want to have the monthly subscription, I highly recommend it
>>>>>> based on my experience so far. I'll try to post again after I have
>>>>>> taken it on a longer trip through some IMC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing I would really like to see in Foreflight would be a Winds
>>>>>> Aloft display on the map, like with most XM products. They have
>>>>>> surface winds at airports, which helps, but picking an altitude with
>>>>>> Winds Aloft information would help. It does calculate Time Enroute
>>>>>> and overall wind effect for your route in the route planner, so I
>>>>>> guess you could pick different altitudes and see which one would be
>>>>>> fastest, but it would be nice to have a chart (like on the Flight
>>>>>> Cheetah, for the few of you who might have flown with it).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesse Saint
>>>>>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>>>>>> jesse@saintaviation.com<mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>>>>> C: 352-427-0285
>>>>>> F: 815-377-3694
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vent modification |
On 04/29/2012 05:53 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
> Here is a simple way to keep mud-dabbers from clogging your fuel vent.
Here is another simple and cheap way to keep mud daubers out of your vent:
http://deej.net/glastar/pics/measure/photo7.jpg
I think I paid $0.99 for a pack of 100:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Kids-Craft-100pk-Fuzzy-Sticks-Neon/19525338
1) Take one fuzzy stick and cut it in half.
2) Take one of the halves and fold in two forming a "V".
3) About 2 inches from the base of the "V", bend each side out 90
degrees. You will end up with a shape like _/\_
4) Stick the end of the "V" into your vent.
5) Add it to your checklist to remove during pre-flight. If you do
happen to forget to remove them, they do allow some air to pass. You
could use the whole fuzzy stick per vent if you wanted to make them
longer and stick out more to be more noticeable for a low wing plane.
-Dj
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Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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Thanks Phil. Those are a lot like my stands. I realize now i wasn't clear. I meant
vertically in the longest dimension, so standing up on the spar join end to
minimize floor space.
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Interesting blog on the ping and puck CONOPs for ADS-B, which answers why ADS-B
out is needed. However if you have a complete system, i.e., out and in, I believe
you should have a pretty complete traffic picture. the ADS-B network doesn't
only broadcast ADS-b traffic but also rebroadcasts TIS-B. TIS-B allows
all transponder equipped aircraft that are tracked by radar to have their location
and track information re-broadcast to ADS-B equipped aircraft.
cjay
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| Subject: | Re: Storing wings vertically? |
As an alternative, I hung mine (still horizontal) from the ceiling to get them
out of the way.
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Bob Turner
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| Subject: | Re: Storing wings vertically? |
I don't see why you couldn't, but you're going to need a 12' ceiling, or more.
Hanging them (although they weigh a lot) would be more practical. Perhaps you
could hang them from a very strong set of bolts in the rafters?
John
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight with Stratus Review |
Hey folks,
You don't have to always hit the quote button in a specific thread like this -
we know what you're talking about.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Storing wings vertically? |
You would want to use extreme caution. Both to protect the spar ends, and
to protect the inner end of the fuel tank from damage. Remember you need
those parts to fit into the fuselage precisely. Have you compared ceiling
height in storage area with wing length? You are going to need a pretty
high ceiling.
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Bill Strahan <bill@gdsx.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Phil. Those are a lot like my stands. I realize now i wasn't clear.
> I meant vertically in the longest dimension, so standing up on the spar
> join end to minimize floor space.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372169#372169
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Storing wings vertically? |
Thanks all for the good feedback. I've got room vertically in the hanger, but
perhaps I'll just hang them from the ceiling. That would totally eliminate the
floor space issue and I wouldn't be worried about destroying the wings accidentally.
All this goes away once I have the money and can extend my hanger. :) Just need
another 10 feet on each end. You can never have too much work space.
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