---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/09/12: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:38 PM - Re: Low Fuel Sensor Location (Rob Kochman) 2. 02:51 PM - Re: Low Fuel Sensor Location (Rene Felker) 3. 04:34 PM - Is it possible to convert a conventional tappet IO-540 C4D5 engine to a roller tappet engine? (Andrew Johnson) 4. 05:12 PM - Re: Is it possible to convert a conventional tappet IO-540 C4D5 (Jim Berry) 5. 05:19 PM - Re: Chelton data storage (Jim Berry) 6. 05:36 PM - Re: Low Fuel Sensor Location (Bob Leffler) 7. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: Is it possible to convert a conventional tappet IO-540 C4D5 (Kelly McMullen) 8. 05:57 PM - Re: Re: Is it possible to convert a conventional tappet IO -540 C4D5 (n801bh@netzero.com) 9. 08:25 PM - Re: Low Fuel Sensor Location (Michael Sausen) 10. 11:53 PM - Re: Low Fuel Sensor Location (Werner Schneider) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:38:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location From: Rob Kochman A bit off topic, I know, but I'm curious: what problem does having this low fuel sensor solve? -Rob On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Rick Lark wrote: > Hey Michael > > I see in your KIt Pro log, you stated dihedral was 3.5 degrees, and angle > of incidence was 1.5 degrees plus. Does that mean the spar is leaning 1.5 > degrees at the top or bottom? I guess since there is almost always some > turbulence in flight, it probably doesn't matter. Does this sound right to > you? I'm also going to install optical sensors. Thx for your advise. > > Rick > #40956 > Southampton, Ont > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Michael Sausen wrote: > >> >> If you can find my entries in the http://www.mykitlog.com/msausen/ site, >> I actually put one of the wings in flight orientation and used a manometer >> to set the 5gal mark. Haven't flown it yet though so YMMV. >> >> Michael >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Koelzer >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:25 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location >> >> >> Thanks Jae, >> >> I'm trying to decide before I drill the hole and prior to final assembly. >> >> Tom >> >> Do not archive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > * > > * > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:46 PM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location Being stupid and running out of gas...that is after I ignore the two other warnings I would have received by then. Would also be helpful in a fuel leak situation where the fuel flow and tank float sensors did not agree..the low fuel sensor would be the tie breaker..i.e. the fuel flow sensor (calculation) shows you have not used 25 gallons, but the mechanical sensor in the tank does and the low fuel optical sensors also says you are down to 5 gallons... Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location A bit off topic, I know, but I'm curious: what problem does having this low fuel sensor solve? -Rob On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Rick Lark wrote: Hey Michael I see in your KIt Pro log, you stated dihedral was 3.5 degrees, and angle of incidence was 1.5 degrees plus. Does that mean the spar is leaning 1.5 degrees at the top or bottom? I guess since there is almost always some turbulence in flight, it probably doesn't matter. Does this sound right to you? I'm also going to install optical sensors. Thx for your advise. Rick #40956 Southampton, Ont On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Michael Sausen wrote: If you can find my entries in the http://www.mykitlog.com/msausen/ site, I actually put one of the wings in flight orientation and used a manometer to set the 5gal mark. Haven't flown it yet though so YMMV. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Koelzer Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location Thanks Jae, I'm trying to decide before I drill the hole and prior to final assembly. Tom Do not archive ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:07 PM PST US From: "Andrew Johnson" Subject: RV10-List: Is it possible to convert a conventional tappet IO-540 C4D5 engine to a roller tappet engine? After spending many professional years in building and repairing diesel engines on ships, I've become a believer in roller tappet technology. I'm certain there are other professional opinions out there on the subject, but my specific question for the group is: Can you take an engine that has conventional tappets and install roller tappets without altering the crankcase? Thanks. Andy Johnson ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:30 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Is it possible to convert a conventional tappet IO-540 C4D5 From: "Jim Berry" A few conversions have been done, but it requires modifying the case. Lyc. will not do the conversion. Jim Berry N15JB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372713#372713 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:21 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Chelton data storage From: "Jim Berry" The Chelton will save data at 1 second intervals for the last 5 flights. Page 9-51 of the Pilot Guide says "there is no reasonable limit to the length of the flights." Jim Berry N15JB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372715#372715 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location From: Bob Leffler It just another idiot light to remind you before you run the tank dry. Sent from my iPad On May 9, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: > A bit off topic, I know, but I'm curious: what problem does having this lo w fuel sensor solve? > > -Rob > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Rick Lark wrote: > Hey Michael > > I see in your KIt Pro log, you stated dihedral was 3.5 degrees, and angle o f incidence was 1.5 degrees plus. Does that mean the spar is leaning 1.5 de grees at the top or bottom? I guess since there is almost always some turbu lence in flight, it probably doesn't matter. Does this sound right to you? I'm also going to install optical sensors. Thx for your advise. > > Rick > #40956 > Southampton, Ont > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Michael Sausen wrote: > > If you can find my entries in the http://www.mykitlog.com/msausen/ site, I actually put one of the wings in flight orientation and used a manometer to set the 5gal mark. Haven't flown it yet though so YMMV. > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Koelzer > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:25 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location > > > Thanks Jae, > > I'm trying to decide before I drill the hole and prior to final assembly. > > Tom > > Do not archive > > > > > > > > ========== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Is it possible to convert a conventional tappet IO-540 C4D5 From: Kelly McMullen Superior pre bankruptcy made a roller tappet that could be retrofitted. The lycoming tappet cannot without significant machining of case. I don't know what is available from Superior now. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Jim Berry wrote: > > A few conversions have been done, but it requires modifying the case. Lyc. > will not do the conversion. > > Jim Berry > N15JB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372713#372713 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:17 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Is it possible to convert a conventional tappet IO -540 C4D5 You have to split the case anyway to change cams..... The lobe profile f or a roller cam is entirely different then a flat tappet cam lobe profil e. While the case is split the machining can be done.. do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Is it possible to convert a conventional tap pet IO-540 C4D5 Superior pre bankruptcy made a roller tappet that could be retrofitted. The lycoming tappet cannot without significant machining of case. I don' t know what is available from Superior now. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Jim Berry wrote: A few conversions have been done, but it requires modifying the case. Ly c. will not do the conversion. Jim Berry N15JB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372713#372713 arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======= ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4fab123376a4f1004c77st05vuc ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:36 PM PST US From: Michael Sausen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location The reality is it's probably not going to matter much. I did go back and no tice I set it at 2.5. The main reason being that the fuel levels are going to be a lot more sensitive as the tank empties. E wise of the dihedral. I d idn't want it false alarming a lot in turbulence or turns I possible. As b ob said, it is really a last chance, pay attention dummy, type warning. Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 6:49 PM, "Rick Lark" > wrote: Hey Michael I see in your KIt Pro log, you stated dihedral was 3.5 degrees, and angle o f incidence was 1.5 degrees plus. Does that mean the spar is leaning 1.5 d egrees at the top or bottom? I guess since there is almost always some tur bulence in flight, it probably doesn't matter. Does this sound right to yo u? I'm also going to install optical sensors. Thx for your advise. Rick #40956 Southampton, Ont On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Michael Sausen > wrote: michael@sausen.net>> If you can find my entries in the http://www.mykitlog.com/msausen/ site, I actually put one of the wings in flight orientation and used a manometer to set the 5gal mark. Haven't flown it yet though so YMMV. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Koelzer Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location v10.net>> Thanks Jae, I'm trying to decide before I drill the hole and prior to final assembly. Tom Do not archive arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:20 PM PST US From: Werner Schneider Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location As well as if you do a steep descent/slip on the full tank, a friend of mine had an engine out because he unported the tank pickup due to a steep descent, the low fuel would probably warn you before that piece of metal/composite in front would stop. Werner On 09.05.2012 23:49, Rene Felker wrote: > Being stupid and running out of gas..that is after I ignore the two > other warnings I would have received by then. Would also be helpful in a > fuel leak situation where the fuel flow and tank float sensors did not > agreethe low fuel sensor would be the tie breaker.i.e. the fuel flow > sensor (calculation) shows you have not used 25 gallons, but the > mechanical sensor in the tank does and the low fuel optical sensors also > says you are down to 5 gallons.. > > Rene' Felker > > N423CF > > 801-721-6080 > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob Kochman > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:36 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location > > A bit off topic, I know, but I'm curious: what problem does having this > low fuel sensor solve? > > -Rob > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Rick Lark > wrote: > > Hey Michael > > I see in your KIt Pro log, you stated dihedral was 3.5 degrees, and > angle of incidence was 1.5 degrees plus. Does that mean the spar is > leaning 1.5 degrees at the top or bottom? I guess since there is almost > always some turbulence in flight, it probably doesn't matter. Does this > sound right to you? I'm also going to install optical sensors. Thx for > your advise. > > Rick > > #40956 > > Southampton, Ont > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Michael Sausen > wrote: > > > > > If you can find my entries in the http://www.mykitlog.com/msausen/ > site, I actually put one of the wings in flight orientation and used > a manometer to set the 5gal mark. Haven't flown it yet though so YMMV. > > Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Tom Koelzer > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:25 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Fuel Sensor Location > > > > > Thanks Jae, > > I'm trying to decide before I drill the hole and prior to final > assembly. > > Tom > > Do not archive > > > ========== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > * * > > * * > > *get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List * > > *tp://forums.matronics.com* > > *_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution * > > * * > > > -- > > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > > Woodinville, WA > > http://kochman.net/N819K > > * * > > * * > > ** > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * * > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > ** > > * * > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > * * > > * * > > * * > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > > * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.