---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/15/12: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:07 AM - Re: W & B programs (Eric_Kallio) 2. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: W & B programs (Bob) 3. 07:04 AM - Re: Re: W & B programs (John Zazulka) 4. 08:13 AM - iPad 3 flying observations (Sheldon Olesen) 5. 09:11 AM - Re: iPad 3 flying observations (DLM) 6. 10:26 AM - Re: Doors & gas struts (rleffler) 7. 10:55 AM - Re: Re: Doors & gas struts (davidsoutpost@comcast.net) 8. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: W & B programs (Robin Marks) 9. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: W & B programs (Pascal) 10. 12:51 PM - Re: Doors & gas struts (Bob Turner) 11. 07:22 PM - Re: Doors & gas struts (Jim Berry) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:33 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: W & B programs From: "Eric_Kallio" I am using Vans limits, was just trying to enter the data into an app that would create a graphical box of the c.g. envelope. Van's published limits to not seem to change as the weight of the aircraft varies. I was just looking to see if anyone had other data that tapers the envelope as weight increased as many airplanes do, or if the c.g. limits were the same throughout the entire weight range of the aircraft. Eric Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373085#373085 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: W & B programs From: Bob I asked that specific question of Vans several years ago and answer was that the fwd & aft limits don't change as weight increases to gross. Bob Sent from my iPhone On May 15, 2012, at 7:06 AM, "Eric_Kallio" wrote: > > I am using Vans limits, was just trying to enter the data into an app that would create a graphical box of the c.g. envelope. Van's published limits to not seem to change as the weight of the aircraft varies. I was just looking to see if anyone had other data that tapers the envelope as weight increased as many airplanes do, or if the c.g. limits were the same throughout the entire weight range of the aircraft. > > Eric > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373085#373085 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: W & B programs From: John Zazulka Bob, I don'tknow what you are looking for but I use a program called FlightScale. It is an app on the i-pad. You can set up a graphical envelope and that just add the weights of passangers and baggage and it will automatically adjust or cg limits inside the envelope. I hope this helps. John Z On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Bob wrote: > > I asked that specific question of Vans several years ago and answer was > that the fwd & aft limits don't change as weight increases to gross. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 15, 2012, at 7:06 AM, "Eric_Kallio" wrote: > > > > > I am using Vans limits, was just trying to enter the data into an app > that would create a graphical box of the c.g. envelope. Van's published > limits to not seem to change as the weight of the aircraft varies. I was > just looking to see if anyone had other data that tapers the envelope as > weight increased as many airplanes do, or if the c.g. limits were the same > throughout the entire weight range of the aircraft. > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373085#373085 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:46 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: iPad 3 flying observations From: Sheldon Olesen I've had my iPad 3 out flying a few times and I have made a few observations. I like to keep the iPad battery charged up while flying so I use the cigarette lighter receptacle to hold a 12v charger. The 1 amp charger I used for the iPad 1 will not charge the new model. So I bought a new charger from Radio Shack that will put out 2.1 amps. The iPad indicates that it is being charged but the battery level keeps going down although more slowly. I wanted something that would at least keep the level even or increase the charge. On the return trip, I tried an inverter with the iPad wall charger plugged into it and that worked. The downside is that this is a very clunky way to get the desired result. I was using WingX and I had the cellular turned on so I could update the weather if the reception was good enough. No other devices were connected to the iPad. The screen brightness was set to about 1/2. Turning off the cellular off may help the battery situation. I am not fond of the glossy screen when flying, so I bought a Brando nonglare screen protector to cure the problem. Unfortunately, the nonglare protector ruins the look of the Retina display and makes it look like the old iPad screen. The roughness of the matt screen gives the illusion of seeing individual pixels. I don't have a solution for this, and since one of the reasons I upgraded was the Retina screen, the nonglare protector may have to come off. I had WingX quit a few times when I switched from the Moving Map display to Route Planning. I don't know why and I have sent an email to Hilton about the problem. Too early to have heard back from them. Sheldon Olesen RV-10 N475PV 385 hrs Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:40 AM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RE: RV10-List: iPad 3 flying observations Check amazon; they have one designed to charge the IPAD. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sheldon Olesen Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: RV10-List: iPad 3 flying observations I've had my iPad 3 out flying a few times and I have made a few observations. I like to keep the iPad battery charged up while flying so I use the cigarette lighter receptacle to hold a 12v charger. The 1 amp charger I used for the iPad 1 will not charge the new model. So I bought a new charger from Radio Shack that will put out 2.1 amps. The iPad indicates that it is being charged but the battery level keeps going down although more slowly. I wanted something that would at least keep the level even or increase the charge. On the return trip, I tried an inverter with the iPad wall charger plugged into it and that worked. The downside is that this is a very clunky way to get the desired result. I was using WingX and I had the cellular turned on so I could update the weather if the reception was good enough. No other devices were connected to the iPad. The screen brightness was set to about 1/2. Turning off the cellular off may help the battery situation. I am not fond of the glossy screen when flying, so I bought a Brando nonglare screen protector to cure the problem. Unfortunately, the nonglare protector ruins the look of the Retina display and makes it look like the old iPad screen. The roughness of the matt screen gives the illusion of seeing individual pixels. I don't have a solution for this, and since one of the reasons I upgraded was the Retina screen, the nonglare protector may have to come off. I had WingX quit a few times when I switched from the Moving Map display to Route Planning. I don't know why and I have sent an email to Hilton about the problem. Too early to have heard back from them. Sheldon Olesen RV-10 N475PV 385 hrs Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:26:39 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Doors & gas struts From: "rleffler" I found a product on ACS called DISCOAT that looks interesting in protecting the windows during construction and paint. (http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/discoat4220plexiglass.php) Does anyone have any experience using the product? If so, how much did you need to cover all five windows. thanks, bob -------- Bob Leffler N410BL - FWF RV-10 #40684 http://mykitlog.com/rleffler Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373111#373111 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:51 AM PST US From: davidsoutpost@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Doors & gas struts No experience with it here but some folks over at the canard sites use Spray Lat http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/plexiglasProtector.php and have had problems removing it. I just taped the window edges with some high quality pvc painters tape, then cut a heavy piece of soft flexible heavy clear vinyl sheet to fit and taped it down on top of the edging tape with Gorilla duct tape. Ran an X of Gorilla tape over the vinyl . We also did this on the Cozy transparencies and it works great and is cheap. David Clifford RV-10 Builder Howell, MI ----- Original Message ----- From: "rleffler" Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:25:40 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Doors & gas struts I found a product on ACS called DISCOAT that looks interesting in protecting the windows during construction and paint. (http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/discoat4220plexiglass.php) Does anyone have any experience using the product? If so, how much did you need to cover all five windows. thanks, bob -------- Bob Leffler N410BL - FWF RV-10 #40684 http://mykitlog.com/rleffler Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373111#373111 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:49 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: W & B programs FlightScale looks good (I have not tried it) but Advanced Flight Systems ha s a free app that also looks nice (not sure about graphical interface) but it is preloaded for many different aircraft including the RX-10. Yes I know , it actually says RX-10. App name: Weight Balance - Advanced Flight Systems Inc. Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of John Zazulka Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:03 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: W & B programs Bob, I don'tknow what you are looking for but I use a program called Fligh tScale. It is an app on the i-pad. You can set up a graphical envelope and that just add the weights of passangers and baggage and it will automatical ly adjust or cg limits inside the envelope. I hope this helps. John Z On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Bob > wrote: ail.com>> I asked that specific question of Vans several years ago and answer was tha t the fwd & aft limits don't change as weight increases to gross. Bob Sent from my iPhone On May 15, 2012, at 7:06 AM, "Eric_Kallio" > wrote: cout019@msn.com>> > > I am using Vans limits, was just trying to enter the data into an app tha t would create a graphical box of the c.g. envelope. Van's published limits to not seem to change as the weight of the aircraft varies. I was just loo king to see if anyone had other data that tapers the envelope as weight inc reased as many airplanes do, or if the c.g. limits were the same throughout the entire weight range of the aircraft. > > Eric > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373085#373085 > > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:45 AM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: W & B programs only reports weights for gross weight issues, not W&B as I recall from my usage a while back. Pascal From: Robin Marks Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: W & B programs FlightScale looks good (I have not tried it) but Advanced Flight Systems has a free app that also looks nice (not sure about graphical interface) but it is preloaded for many different aircraft including the RX-10. Yes I know, it actually says RX-10. App name: Weight Balance - Advanced Flight Systems Inc. Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Zazulka Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:03 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: W & B programs Bob, I don'tknow what you are looking for but I use a program called FlightScale. It is an app on the i-pad. You can set up a graphical envelope and that just add the weights of passangers and baggage and it will automatically adjust or cg limits inside the envelope. I hope this helps. John Z On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Bob wrote: I asked that specific question of Vans several years ago and answer was that the fwd & aft limits don't change as weight increases to gross. Bob Sent from my iPhone On May 15, 2012, at 7:06 AM, "Eric_Kallio" wrote: > > I am using Vans limits, was just trying to enter the data into an app that would create a graphical box of the c.g. envelope. Van's published limits to not seem to change as the weight of the aircraft varies. I was just looking to see if anyone had other data that tapers the envelope as weight increased as many airplanes do, or if the c.g. limits were the same throughout the entire weight range of the aircraft. > > Eric > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373085#373085 > > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============= V10-List Email Forum - > :p> /o:p> tor?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ============= bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - :p> tp://forums.matronics.com ============= bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - e> bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============= ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:52 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Doors & gas struts From: "Bob Turner" The Vans' struts work okay if you don't add a lot of weight to the door. If you do add a lot of interior panels, etc., you may need a stronger strut. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373125#373125 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:44 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Doors & gas struts From: "Jim Berry" My doors are stock with no interior panels. Van's std. struts worked OK for about a year, then started to lose lift, especially in cold weather. Switched to Van's heavy duty struts. They work fine, but are pricey at about $120 each. McMaster-Carr has similar for lower cost. 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