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1. 04:46 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Shannon Hicks)
2. 05:16 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Carlos Trigo)
3. 05:48 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Ed Kranz)
4. 06:18 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Carl Froehlich)
5. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Bill Watson)
6. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Bill Watson)
7. 07:00 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Carlos Trigo)
8. 07:01 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Carlos Trigo)
9. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Kelly McMullen)
10. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Bob Leffler)
11. 09:52 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Jeff Carpenter)
12. 10:25 AM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Robin Marks)
13. 02:37 PM - Re: Re: Building the tail cone (Roger Standley)
14. 06:12 PM - Re: Main gear shudder revisited (bill.peyton)
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is Wally at Synergy
Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was second to none and
it was the same price as Van's.
Shannon
On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10 weeks. 8
> months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors by the
> "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2 yrs.
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was completed before I ever
had the QB fuselage.
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Turner
>> RV-10 QB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373247#373247
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you to build
the tail cone separately from the middle and forward fuselage.
What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB fuselage
to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.
If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it? Just laid
over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
Carlos
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
> Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 12:45
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
>
>
> If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is Wally at
Synergy
> Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was second to none
and
> it was the same price as Van's.
>
> Shannon
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10 weeks. 8
> > months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors by the
> > "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2 yrs.
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
wrote:
> >>
> >> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was completed
before I
> ever had the QB fuselage.
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Bob Turner
> >> RV-10 QB
> >>
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
I'm just finishing up my tail cone, and I think having it attached to the
fuse would just make it almost impossible to get things installed. Once you
put the longerons and top skin on, it's fully rigid and doesn't need a jig.
I built mine on a pair of 2x3's screwed to the top of my bench, overhanging
about 2.5 feet. I think I got this idea from Tim Olsen. Worked awesome!
This both supported everything well and kept a gap between the bench top
and the skins so the clecos wouldn't have interference.
I am keeping video of my entire build, so you can see exactly how it goes
together here (and in later videos as well):
http://www.edandcolleen.com/tail-cone-taking-shape/
I have been able to do all construction on the tail cone single handed up
to the point I'm at now.
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
> Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you to
> build the tail cone separately from the middle and forward fuselage.****
>
> ** **
>
> What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB
> fuselage to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it? Just
> laid over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?****
>
> ** **
>
> Carlos****
>
> ** **
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
It sits on a work bench. Amazingly the CNC pre-punch system is so good that
if you follow the instructions the tail cone mates perfectly with the
fuselage.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you to build
the tail cone separately from the middle and forward fuselage.
What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB fuselage
to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.
If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it? Just laid
over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
Carlos
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
> Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 12:45
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
>
>
> If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is Wally at
Synergy
> Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was second to none
and
> it was the same price as Van's.
>
> Shannon
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10 weeks. 8
> > months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors by the
> > "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2 yrs.
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
wrote:
> >>
> >> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was completed
before I
> ever had the QB fuselage.
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Bob Turner
> >> RV-10 QB
> >>
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
Hanging it would only make it more difficult. You'll want to build the tail
cne on a flat bench. No jig.
What worked well for me was large back riveting plate. Mine was about 24" x
12" x 1/4" (guesstimate) from a local scap yard. This was laid on the benc
h and scrap 1/4" ply from the crate was used to fit around the plate to prov
ide a folate surface for the cone to lie on.
With that setup, you can backrivet 80% or more of rivets flat on the bench
. That makes high quality results very easy. A short and long backrivet se
t is needed.
For many of the rivets that can't be backriveted flat on the bench, you can u
se a back rivet bucking bar (larger mushroom shaped) and bang the rivets wit
h the backrivet set from inside the cone. Again, most of this is easily don
e laying on a flat bench.
I considered most riveting that required crawling in the cone after it was h
ung the result of planning oversights. Everything done on the bench was don
e single handed.
Bill Watson
Sent from my iPad
On May 18, 2012, at 8:14 AM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
> Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you to bui
ld the tail cone separately from the middle and forward fuselage.
>
> What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB fuselag
e to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.
>
> If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it? Just lai
d over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
>
> Carlos
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
> > Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 12:45
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
> >
> >
> > If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is Wally at
Synergy
> > Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was second to non
e and
> > it was the same price as Van's.
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> > On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10 weeks. 8
> > > months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors by the
> > > "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2 yrs.
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> w
rote:
>
> > >>
> > >> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was completed bef
ore I
> > ever had the QB fuselage.
> > >>
> > >> --------
> > >> Bob Turner
> > >> RV-10 QB
> > >>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
I should add that for the clecoing and match drilling you need saw horses or
something to raise cone off the bench to clear the clecos. It becomes pret
ty obvious as you proceed.
Yes, the accuracy of the CNC stuff is simply amazing. It just all fits despi
te your best efforts.
Bill
Sent from my iPad
On May 18, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Bill Watson <mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Hanging it would only make it more difficult. You'll want to build the ta
ilcne on a flat bench. No jig.
>
> What worked well for me was large back riveting plate. Mine was about 24"
x 12" x 1/4" (guesstimate) from a local scap yard. This was laid on the be
nch and scrap 1/4" ply from the crate was used to fit around the plate to pr
ovide a folate surface for the cone to lie on.
>
> With that setup, you can backrivet 80% or more of rivets flat on the ben
ch. That makes high quality results very easy. A short and long backrivet s
et is needed.
>
> For many of the rivets that can't be backriveted flat on the bench, you ca
n use a back rivet bucking bar (larger mushroom shaped) and bang the rivets w
ith the backrivet set from inside the cone. Again, most of this is easily d
one laying on a flat bench.
>
> I considered most riveting that required crawling in the cone after it was
hung the result of planning oversights. Everything done on the bench was d
one single handed.
>
> Bill Watson
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 18, 2012, at 8:14 AM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>
>> Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you to bu
ild the tail cone separately from the middle and forward fuselage.
>>
>> What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB fusela
ge to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.
>>
>> If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it? Just la
id over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
>>
>> Carlos
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
>> > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
>> > Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 12:45
>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
>> >
>> >
>> > If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is Wally a
t Synergy
>> > Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was second to no
ne and
>> > it was the same price as Van's.
>> >
>> > Shannon
>> >
>> > On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10 weeks. 8
>> > > months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors by the
>> > > "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2 yrs.
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> w
rote:
u>
>> > >>
>> > >> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was completed be
fore I
>> > ever had the QB fuselage.
>> > >>
>> > >> --------
>> > >> Bob Turner
>> > >> RV-10 QB
>> > >>
>>
>>
>>
>> =========================
=========
>> ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> =========================
=========
>> cs.com
>> =========================
=========
>> matronics.com/contribution
>> =========================
=========
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
Thanks Ed
That's exactly the kind of answer I was looking for
Regards
Carlos
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kranz
Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 13:48
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
I'm just finishing up my tail cone, and I think having it attached to the
fuse would just make it almost impossible to get things installed. Once you
put the longerons and top skin on, it's fully rigid and doesn't need a jig.
I built mine on a pair of 2x3's screwed to the top of my bench, overhanging
about 2.5 feet. I think I got this idea from Tim Olsen. Worked awesome! This
both supported everything well and kept a gap between the bench top and the
skins so the clecos wouldn't have interference.
I am keeping video of my entire build, so you can see exactly how it goes
together here (and in later videos as well):
http://www.edandcolleen.com/tail-cone-taking-shape/
I have been able to do all construction on the tail cone single handed up to
the point I'm at now.
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you to build
the tail cone separately from the middle and forward fuselage.
What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB fuselage
to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.
If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it? Just laid
over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
Carlos
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
Thanks Bill
do not archive
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 14:21
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
Hanging it would only make it more difficult. You'll want to build the
tailcne on a flat bench. No jig.
What worked well for me was large back riveting plate. Mine was about 24" x
12" x 1/4" (guesstimate) from a local scap yard. This was laid on the bench
and scrap 1/4" ply from the crate was used to fit around the plate to
provide a folate surface for the cone to lie on.
With that setup, you can backrivet 80% or more of rivets flat on the
bench. That makes high quality results very easy. A short and long
backrivet set is needed.
For many of the rivets that can't be backriveted flat on the bench, you can
use a back rivet bucking bar (larger mushroom shaped) and bang the rivets
with the backrivet set from inside the cone. Again, most of this is easily
done laying on a flat bench.
I considered most riveting that required crawling in the cone after it was
hung the result of planning oversights. Everything done on the bench was
done single handed.
Bill Watson
Sent from my iPad
On May 18, 2012, at 8:14 AM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you to build
the tail cone separately from the middle and forward fuselage.
What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB fuselage
to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.
If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it? Just laid
over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
Carlos
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
> Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 12:45
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
>
>
> If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is Wally at
Synergy
> Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was second to none
and
> it was the same price as Van's.
>
> Shannon
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10 weeks. 8
> > months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors by the
> > "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2 yrs.
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
wrote:
> >>
> >> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was completed
before I
> ever had the QB fuselage.
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Bob Turner
> >> RV-10 QB
> >>
==================================
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==================================
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matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
If you are just starting out, it is well worth the money to get a #40
and #30 chucking reamer. Keeps the holes rounder and more accurate, as
well as reducing need for deburring. (actually, since most holes are
dimpled, which enlarges the hole, a #41 reamer gives a finished hole
closer to AN3 rivet size). Avery and other tool sources stock the reamers.
On 5/18/2012 6:48 AM, Bill Watson wrote:
> I should add that for the clecoing and match drilling you need saw
> horses or something to raise cone off the bench to clear the clecos.
> It becomes pretty obvious as you proceed.
>
> Yes, the accuracy of the CNC stuff is simply amazing. It just all fits
> despite your best efforts.
>
> Bill
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 18, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Bill Watson <mauledriver@nc.rr.com
> <mailto:mauledriver@nc.rr.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hanging it would only make it more difficult. You'll want to build
>> the tailcne on a flat bench. No jig.
>>
>> What worked well for me was large back riveting plate. Mine was
>> about 24" x 12" x 1/4" (guesstimate) from a local scap yard. This
>> was laid on the bench and scrap 1/4" ply from the crate was used to
>> fit around the plate to provide a folate surface for the cone to lie on.
>>
>> With that setup, you can backrivet 80% or more of rivets flat on
>> the bench. That makes high quality results very easy. A short and
>> long backrivet set is needed.
>>
>> For many of the rivets that can't be backriveted flat on the bench,
>> you can use a back rivet bucking bar (larger mushroom shaped) and
>> bang the rivets with the backrivet set from inside the cone. Again,
>> most of this is easily done laying on a flat bench.
>>
>> I considered most riveting that required crawling in the cone after
>> it was hung the result of planning oversights. Everything done on
>> the bench was done single handed.
>>
>> Bill Watson
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 18, 2012, at 8:14 AM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt
>> <mailto:trigo@mail.telepac.pt>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you
>>> to build the tail cone separately from the middle and forward fuselage.
>>>
>>> What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB
>>> fuselage to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.
>>>
>>> If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it?
>>> Just laid over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
>>>
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
>>>
>>> > server@matronics.com <mailto:server@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of
>>> Shannon Hicks
>>>
>>> > Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 12:45
>>>
>>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>>
>>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> <mailto:civeng123@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is
>>> Wally at Synergy
>>>
>>> > Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was second
>>> to none and
>>>
>>> > it was the same price as Van's.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Shannon
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> <apilot2@gmail.com <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> > > About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10
>>> weeks. 8
>>>
>>> > > months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors by the
>>>
>>> > > "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2 yrs.
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner
>>> <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu <mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>> <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu <mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>>
>>>
>>> > >>
>>>
>>> > >> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was
>>> completed before I
>>>
>>> > ever had the QB fuselage.
>>>
>>> > >>
>>>
>>> > >> --------
>>>
>>> > >> Bob Turner
>>>
>>> > >> RV-10 QB
>>>
>>> > >>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> ==================================
>>> ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>> ==================================
>>> cs.com <http://cs.com>
>>> ==================================
>>> matronics.com/contribution <http://matronics.com/contribution>
>>> ==================================
>>>
>>> *
>> *
>>
>> ==================================
>> ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> ==================================
>> cs.com
>> ==================================
>> matronics.com/contribution
>> ==================================
>>
>> *
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
Serves no real advantage other than to take up more space. Following the pla
ns in this case would be the best practice.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 18, 2012, at 7:14 AM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you to build
the tail cone separately from the middle and forward fuselage.
What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB fuselage t
o hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.
If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it? Just laid o
ver your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
Carlos
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
> Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 12:45
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
>
>
> If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is Wally at S
ynergy
> Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was second to none a
nd
> it was the same price as Van's.
>
> Shannon
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10 weeks. 8
> > months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors by the
> > "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2 yrs.
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wro
te:
> >>
> >> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was completed befor
e I
> ever had the QB fuselage.
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Bob Turner
> >> RV-10 QB
> >>
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It helps to have one of these:
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On May 18, 2012, at 5:14 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
> Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you
> to build the tail cone separately from the middle and forward
> fuselage.
>
> What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB
> fuselage to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail
> cone.
>
> If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it?
> Just laid over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
>
> Carlos
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Hicks
> > Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 12:45
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
> >
> >
> > If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is
> Wally at Synergy
> > Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was second
> to none and
> > it was the same price as Van's.
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> > On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> <apilot2@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10
> weeks. 8
> > > months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors by
> the
> > > "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2 yrs.
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu
> > wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was
> completed before I
> > ever had the QB fuselage.
> > >>
> > >> --------
> > >> Bob Turner
> > >> RV-10 QB
> > >>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Building the tail cone |
I strongly suggest renting one of those. There are many maintenance issues
associated with ownership.
Robin
Do not archive
Sent from the new iPad
On May 18, 2012, at 10:16 AM, "Jeff Carpenter" <jeff@westcottpress.com<mail
to:jeff@westcottpress.com>> wrote:
It helps to have one of these:
<100_3235.jpg>
Do Not Archive
On May 18, 2012, at 5:14 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell you to buil
d the tail cone separately from the middle and forward fuselage.
What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB fuselage
to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.
If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it? Just laid
over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
Carlos
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com<mailto:server@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Shannon H
icks
> Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 12:45
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
>
o:civeng123@gmail.com>>
>
> If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is Wally at
Synergy
> Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was second to none
and
> it was the same price as Van's.
>
> Shannon
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com<mailto:api
lot2@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
to:apilot2@gmail.com>>
> >
> > About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10 weeks. 8
> > months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors by the
> > "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2 yrs.
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu<mai
lto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>> wrote:
mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>>
> >>
> >> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was completed befo
re I
> ever had the QB fuselage.
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Bob Turner
> >> RV-10 QB
> >>
style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.co
m/Navigator?RV10-List
blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com
style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.co
m/contribution
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Couldn't have done it without mine!
Roger
#40291 flying 215 hours
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Marks<mailto:robin@painttheweb.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
I strongly suggest renting one of those. There are many maintenance
issues associated with ownership.
Robin
Do not archive
Sent from the new iPad
On May 18, 2012, at 10:16 AM, "Jeff Carpenter"
<jeff@westcottpress.com<mailto:jeff@westcottpress.com>> wrote:
It helps to have one of these:
<100_3235.jpg>
Do Not Archive
On May 18, 2012, at 5:14 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
Well, thanks for the answers, but I do know that the plans tell
you to build the tail cone separately from the middle and forward
fuselage.
What I want to know is if anybody used, or recommends using the QB
fuselage to hang the tail cone structure, while building the tail cone.
If not, where does everybody put the tail cone while building it?
Just laid over your work bench, or did you make a kind of gig?
Carlos
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matron
ics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-<mailto:owner-rv10-list->
> server@matronics.com<mailto:server@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of
Shannon Hicks
> Sent: sexta-feira, 18 de Maio de 2012 12:45
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Building the tail cone
>
<civeng123@gmail.com<mailto:civeng123@gmail.com>>
>
> If you are concerned about the quality of the QB, one option is
Wally at Synergy
> Air. He did both my QB wings and fuse. The workmanship was
second to none and
> it was the same price as Van's.
>
> Shannon
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Kelly McMullen
<apilot2@gmail.com<mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
<apilot2@gmail.com<mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>>
> >
> > About what I had...ordered when I figured I need the QB in 10
weeks. 8
> > months later I got my shipment, with some significant errors
by the
> > "new" QB facility. Hopefully they have improved in the last 2
yrs.
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob Turner
<bobturner@alum.rpi.edu<mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>> wrote:
<bobturner@alum.rpi.edu<mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>>
> >>
> >> Due to a backlog of QB orders at Vans', my tailcone was
completed before I
> ever had the QB fuselage.
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Bob Turner
> >> RV-10 QB
> >>
style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List<http://www.matronics.com/N
avigator?RV10-List>
blue; text-decoration: underline;
">http://forums.matronics.com<http://forums.matronics.com/>
style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;
">http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contribu
tion>
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Sean,
Is the shudder from the main gear? Do you have any photos
Bill
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Aviation Partners, LLC
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