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1. 03:57 AM - Re: fuel filter inspection (Carl Froehlich)
2. 04:19 AM - Re: fuel filter inspection (bob-tcw)
3. 04:21 AM - Re: fuel filter inspection (Dj Merrill)
4. 12:42 PM - Royco Brake fluid (hotwheels)
5. 12:55 PM - Re: Royco Brake fluid (Tim Olson)
6. 01:01 PM - Re: Royco Brake fluid (Ralph E. Capen)
7. 01:08 PM - Re: Nose Gear Incert tool (speckter@comcast.net)
8. 02:06 PM - Re: Royco Brake fluid (hotwheels)
9. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Royco Brake fluid (Kelly McMullen)
10. 05:20 PM - Re: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool ()
11. 07:39 PM - Re: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool (Bob Condrey)
12. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool ()
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| Subject: | Re: fuel filter inspection |
Bob,
Please consider the aspect that unless the gas collators are physically loca
ted below the lowest point of the fuel tank (for the RV-10 this means below t
he wing in the breeze), they will not provide a means to remove water from t
he fuel tank. Collators are not a water separator, they simply provide a p
lace to collect water as gravity lets it find it's lowest level under static
, no flow conditions. This is why collators are so popular on high wing air
craft.
By design the fuel tank sumps are located at the lowest point in the tank. W
ithout these sumps you have no means of draining water from the tanks - unti
l of course the collected water builds to the point of being picked up in th
e fuel suction. Again, the collators are not water separators. Any water p
icked up in the fuel suction will simply pass through the collator to the en
gine.
Carl
RV-8A (800 hrs)
RV-10 (4 hrs)
On May 30, 2012, at 9:20 PM, "bob-tcw" <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote:
> I used two filters for the fuel system, one at each wing root. I can i
nspect and clean them by removing the wing root covers. (which takes all of
10 minutes)
>
> I used the andair gas filter/collators, however I decided to NOT put in su
mp-able drains, but rather plug the bottom fitting. I wanted no chance of e
ver drawing air in since this part would be in vacuum with respect to outsid
e air pressure, therefore, sucking air means no fuel flow.
>
> So far so good. and no need to work inside the tunnel on a regular basis.
>
> Regarding cleaning, we have the same filter on our glastar (13 years now)
, it gets cleaned at every annual condition inspection.
>
> Here is a link to pictures in my picasa album with the pictures.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/30eqPlZJYV9kbhKtAZr5D9MTjNZETYmyPJy0
liipFm0?feat=directlink
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> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DdM_Qnx2tIXgNyCIg3bspdMTjNZETYmyPJy0
liipFm0?feat=directlink
>
>
> Bob Newman
> N541RV
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| Subject: | Re: fuel filter inspection |
Carl, Thanks for clarifying that point. I have the stock
Van=99s drain sumps for this exact reason. I chose the Andair
filter/collators not for the collator function at all, but because they
had a nice mounting means and they have the same micron level filter as
recommended by AFP for the fuel injection system. Also, from my
experience in the glastar, they are very easy to disassemble and clean
without disturbing any of the associated plumbing.
Bob
N541RV
From: Carl Froehlich
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: fuel filter inspection
Bob,
Please consider the aspect that unless the gas collators are physically
located below the lowest point of the fuel tank (for the RV-10 this
means below the wing in the breeze), they will not provide a means to
remove water from the fuel tank. Collators are not a water separator,
they simply provide a place to collect water as gravity lets it find
it's lowest level under static, no flow conditions. This is why
collators are so popular on high wing aircraft.
By design the fuel tank sumps are located at the lowest point in the
tank. Without these sumps you have no means of draining water from the
tanks - until of course the collected water builds to the point of being
picked up in the fuel suction. Again, the collators are not water
separators. Any water picked up in the fuel suction will simply pass
through the collator to the engine.
Carl
RV-8A (800 hrs)
RV-10 (4 hrs)
On May 30, 2012, at 9:20 PM, "bob-tcw" <rnewman@tcwtech.com> wrote:
I used two filters for the fuel system, one at each wing root. I
can inspect and clean them by removing the wing root covers. (which
takes all of 10 minutes)
I used the andair gas filter/collators, however I decided to NOT put
in sump-able drains, but rather plug the bottom fitting. I wanted no
chance of ever drawing air in since this part would be in vacuum with
respect to outside air pressure, therefore, sucking air means no fuel
flow.
So far so good. and no need to work inside the tunnel on a regular
basis.
Regarding cleaning, we have the same filter on our glastar (13 years
now), it gets cleaned at every annual condition inspection.
Here is a link to pictures in my picasa album with the pictures.
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/30eqPlZJYV9kbhKtAZr5D9MTjNZETYmyPJy
0liipFm0?feat=directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DdM_Qnx2tIXgNyCIg3bspdMTjNZETYmyPJy
0liipFm0?feat=directlink
Bob Newman
N541RV
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| Subject: | Re: fuel filter inspection |
On May 31, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wrote:
> Again, the collators are not water separators. Any water picked up in the fuel
suction will simply pass through the collator to the engine.
>
Just FYI, the Andair gascolator has a water separator filter built into it that
will allow fuel to pass but hold water back. I asked Andair what would happen
if the gascolator were to fill with water, would it pass any water in order to
allow further fuel to pass, and it will. Looking at the inside of the one I
bought, there appears to be a small 1/4 inch "override" screen at the top of
the gascolator.
I agree completely with the assessment of the fuel drains in the tank. Bad Idea
not to include them.
-Dj
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| Subject: | Royco Brake fluid |
I received a quart of Royco Brake Fluid recently. It's the high temp mil-spec stuff
and comes in a metal can. I understand that it doesn't take a whole lot of
fluid to top off -10 brakes. So the question is... What to do with the leftover
fluid once the can is opened?
1) Toss it (I hate this one)
2) Save in another container of some sort. Plastic? Maybe that would break down
(no pun intended)? Glass?
3) Seal it up in a zip-lock and try not to dump it. Ugh.
4) Something else?
Thanks for any thoughts on this one.
Regards,
Jay
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374415#374415
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| Subject: | Re: Royco Brake fluid |
I think it would store fine in a nice poly bottle.
I had a leftover bottle from some of the standard
fluid that I emptied and I put it in that.
Worst case, I'm sure it would be ok in a standard
oil bottle....so you could completely drain and
drip out a quart of ATF and put it in there,
but you'd want to label it well.
Tim
On 5/31/2012 2:41 PM, hotwheels wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "hotwheels"<jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>
> I received a quart of Royco Brake Fluid recently. It's the high temp mil-spec
stuff and comes in a metal can. I understand that it doesn't take a whole lot
of fluid to top off -10 brakes. So the question is... What to do with the leftover
fluid once the can is opened?
>
> 1) Toss it (I hate this one)
>
> 2) Save in another container of some sort. Plastic? Maybe that would break down
(no pun intended)? Glass?
>
> 3) Seal it up in a zip-lock and try not to dump it. Ugh.
>
> 4) Something else?
>
> Thanks for any thoughts on this one.
>
> Regards,
> Jay
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374415#374415
>
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| Subject: | Re: Royco Brake fluid |
When I opened mine, I did it with a two screws that I could put a gasket on and
reinsert in to the openings.
I kept it - glad I did as I recently replaced the brake fluid (three years service)
and used the 'fresh' stuff I had kept.
-----Original Message-----
>From: hotwheels <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 31, 2012 3:41 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Royco Brake fluid
>
>
>I received a quart of Royco Brake Fluid recently. It's the high temp mil-spec
stuff and comes in a metal can. I understand that it doesn't take a whole lot
of fluid to top off -10 brakes. So the question is... What to do with the leftover
fluid once the can is opened?
>
>1) Toss it (I hate this one)
>
>2) Save in another container of some sort. Plastic? Maybe that would break down
(no pun intended)? Glass?
>
>3) Seal it up in a zip-lock and try not to dump it. Ugh.
>
>4) Something else?
>
>Thanks for any thoughts on this one.
>
>Regards,
>Jay
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374415#374415
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Incert tool |
Is the tool for putting incerts into the fork still floating around?=C2-
I could use it.
Gary Specketer
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| Subject: | Re: Royco Brake fluid |
I liked the oil can idea. I think one of those should be easy to find.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=33493&highlight=brake+fluid
Jay
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374428#374428
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| Subject: | Re: Royco Brake fluid |
Just take an empty oil bottle, flush it with some mineral spirits and
drain thoroughly, re-label and add your brake fluid.
On 5/31/2012 2:05 PM, hotwheels wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "hotwheels"<jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>
> I liked the oil can idea. I think one of those should be easy to find.
>
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=33493&highlight=brake+fluid
>
> Jay
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374428#374428
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Incert tool |
Hey Gary,
The helicoil kit lives here with me and rents for $5 plus shipping. Let
me know your address and I=99ll get it out to you as soon as I
replenish the coils =93 it came back empty after the last circuit.
Also let me know if you want the longer bolts so that the tow ears
extend beyond the pants (keeps tow jockies from messing up your pants).
Later, =93 Lew
do not archive
From: speckter@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:08 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool
Is the tool for putting incerts into the fork still floating around? I
could use it.
Gary Specketer
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Incert tool |
Lewis, I'd like to get it after Gary please.
Thanks
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On May 31, 2012, at 7:20 PM, <lewgall@charter.net> wrote:
> Hey Gary,
>
> The helicoil kit lives here with me and rents for $5 plus shipping. Let m
e know your address and I=99ll get it out to you as soon as I replenis
h the coils =93 it came back empty after the last circuit.
>
> Also let me know if you want the longer bolts so that the tow ears extend b
eyond the pants (keeps tow jockies from messing up your pants).
>
> Later, =93 Lew
>
> do not archive
>
>
> From: speckter@comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:08 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool
>
> Is the tool for putting incerts into the fork still floating around? I co
uld use it.
>
>
>
> Gary Specketer
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Incert tool |
Hey Bob,
I=99ll need a mailing address ... and it really is Lew, not Lewis.
Later, =93 Lew
From: Bob Condrey
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool
Lewis, I'd like to get it after Gary please.
Thanks
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On May 31, 2012, at 7:20 PM, <lewgall@charter.net> wrote:
Hey Gary,
The helicoil kit lives here with me and rents for $5 plus shipping.
Let me know your address and I=99ll get it out to you as soon as I
replenish the coils =93 it came back empty after the last circuit.
Also let me know if you want the longer bolts so that the tow ears
extend beyond the pants (keeps tow jockies from messing up your pants).
Later, =93 Lew
do not archive
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