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1. 04:34 AM - Re: Another plans omission? (John Trollinger)
2. 05:11 AM - Re: Another plans omission? (bill.peyton)
3. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: Another plans omission? (Kelly McMullen)
4. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: Another plans omission? (Phil Perry)
5. 02:20 PM - airport security (DLM)
6. 04:08 PM - #400 (Rob Kochman)
7. 04:53 PM - Re: #400 (Rene)
8. 07:14 PM - Re: #400 (Ed Kranz)
9. 07:43 PM - Re: airport security (David Maib)
10. 11:22 PM - Re: airport security (Bob Turner)
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| Subject: | Re: Another plans omission? |
Kelly,
Are you talking about the rivets around the bottom of the door frame
that were left open to cleco the door in place? I do not know if I
did it on purpose or not, but all those were dimpled on my fuselage,
they do have beefy aluminum behind them if I recall so countersinking
should not be a problem.
John
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have looked through the plans from the point where the door halves are
> glassed together(Chap 45-50), trying to find when you are supposed to put in
> the rivets that were left out to be able to cleco the door halves in place
> during bonding. I have not found one mention. Obviously they also were not
> prepared anywhere in the plans for flush rivets, so it seems that
> countersinking is the only choice at this point. While I don't expect the
> later chapters to discuss deburring etc, I also don't expect to have them
> leaving more than a dozen rivet holes empty on each side of the completed
> fuselage.
> Kelly
> Still fighting to get out of door fiberglass hell
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| Subject: | Re: Another plans omission? |
I don't recall whether our QB fuse were dimpled, I am 90% sure they were. Section
29-15 clearly shows dimpling those holes, and 29-17 clearly shows leaving
out the rivets.
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Another plans omission? |
Ah ha, another wonderful omission by the "new" QB facility. They were not
dimpled on my QB built in summer of 2009, nor were the longerons behind
them countersunk. Which still leaves the apparent fact that they never call
for you to actually place rivets in the holes.
Kelly
40866
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:10 AM, bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> I don't recall whether our QB fuse were dimpled, I am 90% sure they were.
> Section 29-15 clearly shows dimpling those holes, and 29-17 clearly shows
> leaving out the rivets.
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> Bill
> WA0SYV
> Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Another plans omission? |
IIRC, the plans said not to simple those holes when the skins were being dim
pled. I'm just countersinking mine.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah ha, another wonderful omission by the "new" QB facility. They were not d
impled on my QB built in summer of 2009, nor were the longerons behind them c
ountersunk. Which still leaves the apparent fact that they never call for yo
u to actually place rivets in the holes.
> Kelly
> 40866
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> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:10 AM, bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote
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> I don't recall whether our QB fuse were dimpled, I am 90% sure they were.
Section 29-15 clearly shows dimpling those holes, and 29-17 clearly shows l
eaving out the rivets.
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| Subject: | airport security |
So much for the vaunted airport security; a group went out for our Sunday
breakfast; we met at a small feeder airport for breakfast. When we prepared
to leave, we entered the gate code as written on the opposite side of the
gate. No Joy. Various previous combinations were tried and again no joy.
The local police car was parked adjacent but the police substation and car
was unoccupied. finally found the TSA guy who said he had no way to allow
anyone to the transient ramp; At some point a man with a law enforcement
T-shirt appeared and his code did not work either. So now eight aircraft are
inaccessible and no numbers to call for help. etc. Then one enterprising
pilot put his fingers through the chain link fence and manually operated the
inside lever from the outside. We merrily departed secure in the knowledge
that we are safe since TSA is on the job.
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Not sure whether someone already mentioned it, but we're at 400 known
completed RV-10s now!
http://vansaircraft.com/public/flights.htm
-Rob
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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Wow..400. Anybody know how many kits have been sold.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 5:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: #400
Not sure whether someone already mentioned it, but we're at 400 known
completed RV-10s now!
http://vansaircraft.com/public/flights.htm
-Rob
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Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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I had kit number 41347 delivered in February, so at least 1347. Almost a
thousand unfinished kits out there...
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Rene <rene@felker.com> wrote:
> Wow=85.400. Anybody know how many kits have been sold.****
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| Subject: | Re: airport security |
Classic! Thanks for the laugh.
"We have met the enemy and he is us"
-Pogo-
David Maib
Transition Trainer
N380DM
On Jun 3, 2012, at 5:18 PM, DLM wrote:
So much for the vaunted airport security; a group went out for our Sunday breakfast;
we met at a small feeder airport for breakfast. When we prepared to leave,
we entered the gate code as written on the opposite side of the gate. No Joy.
Various previous combinations were tried and again no joy. The local police
car was parked adjacent but the police substation and car was unoccupied. finally
found the TSA guy who said he had no way to allow anyone to the transient
ramp; At some point a man with a law enforcement T-shirt appeared and his code
did not work either. So now eight aircraft are inaccessible and no numbers
to call for help. etc. Then one enterprising pilot put his fingers through the
chain link fence and manually operated the inside lever from the outside. We
merrily departed secure in the knowledge that we are safe since TSA is on the
job.
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| Subject: | Re: airport security |
That Pogo quote is my all time favorite.
True story: shortly after 9-11 the National Guard was sent to SFO. Soldier hands
his M16 to the TSA guy, walks thru the metal detector which goes off. TSA guy
confiscates the soldier's Swiss army knife, hands him back his M16.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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