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Fri 06/15/12


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:46 AM - Re: Re: Update on Garmin G3X (Robin Marks)
     2. 01:56 AM - Re: RV-10 at Oshkosh (Fabian Rahm)
     3. 04:39 AM - Mounting rear seat headset jacks (tsts4)
     4. 05:31 AM - Re: Mounting rear seat headset jacks (Michael Kraus)
     5. 06:00 AM - Re: Mounting rear seat headset jacks (tsts4)
     6. 06:20 AM - Re: Re: Mounting rear seat headset jacks (Tim Olson)
     7. 09:19 AM - Re: Update on Garmin G3X (hotwheels)
     8. 10:59 AM - Re: Mounting rear seat headset jacks (Bob Turner)
     9. 02:02 PM - Re: Audio Mixers (Rodger Todd)
    10. 02:23 PM - Re: Nose Gear Incert tool (Lew Gallagher)
    11. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Nose Gear Insert tool (Tom Hanaway)
    12. 05:42 PM - Re: RV-10 at Oshkosh (Dj Merrill)
    13. 09:12 PM - Re: Re: Nose Gear Insert tool (Bob)
    14. 09:22 PM - Re: Audio Mixers (Bob Turner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:46:50 AM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Re: Update on Garmin G3X
    Bob, Some of this stuff is timing. When I initially researched my -10 avionics (~5 years ago) the GRT's were solid units with very nice & committed people behind the equipment but the hardware already seemed like legacy equipment. This was all prior to the HX product line etc.. Frankly when It was time to outfit the 8A the narrower G3x screens seem to be ideal for such small area and I was impressed with the performance & stability of my G900x so the G3x was my solution. I never really looked at GRT since I was so familiar with Garmin and impressed with the AFS package and also had a pretty good feeling that AFS had a long term future in experimental avionics. I really do not know enough about GRT to comment on them. All I can say is I hope the marketplace continues to see rapid development of these technologies and that there is enough demand to support the existing manufacturers. I have had a front row seat for both the Blue Mountain and OP retirements and used that as part of my decision making process. I am thrilled you are happy with GRT. I know these new systems can help us be safer & better pilots. Just today I departed the LA basin and saw on my screen 2 LA county fire choppers, 3 news choppers circling an accident, 5 planes entering or leaving the pattern, a 737 dropping into Burbank as a Lear was launching straight out from Van Nuys in my general direction as a Meridian passed overhead. I saw all the choppers but maybe 6 of the 30 additional targets in and around my departure. Sure beats a six pack. Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Update on Garmin G3X Robin, Why leave out GRT? Everyone likes their decisions, of course, but I am really happy with my choice of an HX/HS pair. The new HX may be too new to evaluate, but it looks like a good choice for a larger screen. I think AFS and GRT are very competitive, and you end up choosing one or the other for personal, individual reasons. One thing that has pleasantly surprised me is that these boxes do quite a bit more than is advertised. E.g., the HX will share wx with the HS; the analog inputs on the HX have (if selected on) internal bias resistors, so you don't need to run a power line to flap position sensors, etc. Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375699#375699


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    Time: 01:56:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 at Oshkosh
    From: Fabian Rahm <vans@paulcream.com>
    Thanks for the huge reply! I thought about the demo rides as well, but as they might not be available to me, I looked (and found, thanks Mike!) for other opportunities. Can't wait... Cheers, Fabian Am 14.06.2012 20:57, schrieb Michael Kraus: > <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> > > Since no one answered your question , yes, if you come to Oshkosh > from Switzerland, I'll gladly find time to take you up for a ride in > my RV-10. I hope to be there from Wednesday night through Saturday, > but I only live a couple of hours from KOSH so my schedule may > change. > > > Just come prepared with your checkbook, as they say, it's the most > expensive free airplane ride you will ever take!! > > -Mike Kraus > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Fabian Rahm <vans@paulcream.com> wrote: > >> >> Dear RV-Builders, >> >> I'm more than interested in building an RV-10. >> >> Earlier this week, I visited the RV-10 project of Michael Wellenzohn >> in Switzerland. I haven't been able to fly in a -10 yet as they're >> still rare around me. >> >> As I'll be in Oshkosh this year, I would be more than happy to meet >> up with a builder of an RV-10 and if possible, go for a short flight >> :) >> >> Regards, >> >> Fabian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 04:39:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Mounting rear seat headset jacks
    From: "tsts4" <tsts4@verizon.net>
    For those with Abby's Flightline interior, how did you mount the rear seat headphone jacks? I'd like to mount mine on the sides panels in the space right in front of the arm rests (there's about 3 inches there). I'm just not sure how to go about it. Pics would be great as I'm a visual learner. -------- Todd Stovall 728TT (reserved) RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375716#375716


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    Time: 05:31:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mounting rear seat headset jacks
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Todd, That us exactly what I did. I had Abby leave a 2-3" opening in front of the arm rest. I had her send me some extra leather and glued the leather to th e aluminum side panel where the jacks go, then installed her panel. I have g ood pictures at home. Here is a picture where you can almost see it. I'll try and remember to send you the detail tonight. It turned out really n ice!! -Mike Kraus RV-10 Flying Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2012, at 7:34 AM, "tsts4" <tsts4@verizon.net> wrote: > > For those with Abby's Flightline interior, how did you mount the rear seat headphone jacks? I'd like to mount mine on the sides panels in the space ri ght in front of the arm rests (there's about 3 inches there). I'm just not s ure how to go about it. Pics would be great as I'm a visual learner. > > -------- > Todd Stovall > 728TT (reserved) > RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse > www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375716#375716 > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 06:00:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mounting rear seat headset jacks
    From: "tsts4" <tsts4@verizon.net>
    Mike that would be great. For those following along at home, you can see the space I'm talking about in Mike's pic. What I'm struggling with is if I mount the jacks to the the aluminum side panel that is underneath Abby's panel how best to modify Abby's panel to get access to the jacks. The area in question on Abby's panel is some sort of fiber board covered with fabric (in my case syn leather) which is about 3/16 to 1/4" thick (but is compressible to something less than 3/16" based upon my unscientific pinch test). I'm leery of cutting up Abby's work so I've got to get this right the first time. My first thought is to simply cut holes in Abby's panel where the jacks are and finish it off with a second mounting nut that would sandwich the fabric between the two nuts. Sounds too simple which is why I'm looking for opinions. -------- Todd Stovall 728TT (reserved) RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375719#375719


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    Time: 06:20:32 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Mounting rear seat headset jacks
    I created and painted a metal plate to put on top of that area that I mounted the jacks on. Then, cut a slightly undersized hole to match in Abby's stuff, and screwed those parts together. For the aluminum panel below, I notched out the area so that I could still slide the panel across and snap it in place. Tim On 6/15/2012 7:56 AM, tsts4 wrote: > > Mike that would be great. > > For those following along at home, you can see the space I'm talking > about in Mike's pic. What I'm struggling with is if I mount the > jacks to the the aluminum side panel that is underneath Abby's panel > how best to modify Abby's panel to get access to the jacks. The area > in question on Abby's panel is some sort of fiber board covered with > fabric (in my case syn leather) which is about 3/16 to 1/4" thick > (but is compressible to something less than 3/16" based upon my > unscientific pinch test). I'm leery of cutting up Abby's work so > I've got to get this right the first time. > > My first thought is to simply cut holes in Abby's panel where the > jacks are and finish it off with a second mounting nut that would > sandwich the fabric between the two nuts. Sounds too simple which is > why I'm looking for opinions. > > -------- Todd Stovall 728TT (reserved) RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse > www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375719#375719 > >


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    Time: 09:19:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Update on Garmin G3X
    From: "hotwheels" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
    I'll bet I'm not the only one wondering what is the proper torque value for a Zerk fitting? Thanks, Jay karolamy(at)roadrunner.co wrote: > Hey Robin and any others flying with the Garmin G3X - we would appreciate an update as to how you like it, pros and cons, would you select it for another aircraft that you might build? ETC > > On another note : "GREASE ON THE WINDSCREEN" > > During my 15 years of owning my RV-6A this issue did occur, once, (Hartzell Constant Speed). My findings concluded with the zerk, or grease fittings themselves, were the culprit. Somehow the check ball does not seat properly, allows a slight amount of grease to be released, which then is slung out and shows itself as an ugly pucker factor on the windscreen at cruise. In checking with other owners of RVs, same prop, my issue was not a stand alone issue. The fix of course is simply replacement of the fittings, proper torque, and install the grease fitting end covers with safety wire on all four of them. If you don't have the fitting covers, Hartzell will send you some and they are cheap - any prop shop will of course also have them. It is interesting to note that sometimes pilots/owners told me that their grease fitting issue happened right after they serviced the prop, or after overhaul, and others stated that they had not touched anything on the prop for a year and it just "happened". > > Hope that helps some of you. There are certainly other failures that can take place in the prop to cause a loss of oil or grease, but this issue is an easy one to address and have knowledge of. > > Regarding Prop Cycling, I completely agree with Kelly. Would you go start your car in the morning and while it is still cold firmly hold the brake pedal down, put the A/T in gear, and at the same time with the other foot push the gas pedal to the floor and perform a WOT stall test on the torque convertor? Might not go over too well with all those cold moving parts in both the engine and transmission. Would it take it? Probably. Would something break? Probably not, but not really the best thing to do if you want things to last. So regarding our props and cycling, we are just trying to respectably check that it is functioning, then go about our flight for the day - just a slight drop in RPM (certainly not under 1500), no oil on the wind screen, back in, and off we go! > > Rich Hansen > 6A - sold > 10 - fun part - engine install > not fun part, canopy and doors - done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375740#375740


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    Time: 10:59:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mounting rear seat headset jacks
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    Whatever you do, remember to put insulating fiber washers under the jacks. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375749#375749


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    Time: 02:02:04 PM PST US
    From: Rodger Todd <rj_todd@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Audio Mixers
    Hi Guys, - Is there anyone out there who has implemented an audio mixer for expanding the number of unswitched inputs to their audio panel? - Which model did you use and what is your experience?- Alternatively did a nyone simply use one (or more)-of the unused switched inputs and relabell ed (if so how) the switch accordingly? - In my case I have a GMA-347 and need seven unswitched inputs (it comes with five). - Thanking you all in anticipation, - Rodger Temporarily in North Queensland


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    Time: 02:23:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool
    From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
    Hey Guys, The traveling insert kit is on the way. Gary had trouble with a couple of inserts breaking off prematurely and he has added extra to the kit. Tom, Mike, Steve, Chris, and Michael, your bolts will go out tomorrow since you either didn't want the kit, or you got on the list after the kit and bolts had already left. I'll let you know about the cost (.80 ea plus shipping) since they will be shipped separately. It would be considerate of those waiting if you would post here when you are finished and sending it on to the next on the list. Later, - Lew do not archive -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Fly off completed ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375770#375770


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    Time: 03:49:47 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Hanaway" <tomhanaway@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Insert tool
    Lew and all, I have a pack of 12 of the 3/8-24 helicoil inserts that I'll be glad to send to whoever has the traveling inset kit (to follow with kit). Tom Hanaway -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool Hey Guys, The traveling insert kit is on the way. Gary had trouble with a couple of inserts breaking off prematurely and he has added extra to the kit. Tom, Mike, Steve, Chris, and Michael, your bolts will go out tomorrow since you either didn't want the kit, or you got on the list after the kit and bolts had already left. I'll let you know about the cost (.80 ea plus shipping) since they will be shipped separately. It would be considerate of those waiting if you would post here when you are finished and sending it on to the next on the list. Later, - Lew do not archive -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Fly off completed ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375770#375770


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    Time: 05:42:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 at Oshkosh
    From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
    On 6/14/2012 1:23 PM, Fred Williams, M.D. wrote: > > If you want to get a demo ride from Van's make sure you sign up Monday > am if possible. The demo rides are limited and go fast. > In fact, call now and see if they'll put you on the list. Can't hurt to ask... -Dj -- Dj Merrill - N1JOV Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/


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    Time: 09:12:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Insert tool
    From: Bob <condreyb@gmail.com>
    Tom, Kit just arrived at my place. I sent you an email offline. Bob Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2012, at 5:38 PM, "Tom Hanaway" <tomhanaway@comcast.net> wrote: > > Lew and all, > I have a pack of 12 of the 3/8-24 helicoil inserts that I'll be glad to send > to whoever has the traveling inset kit (to follow with kit). > Tom Hanaway > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 5:17 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool > > > Hey Guys, > > The traveling insert kit is on the way. Gary had trouble with a couple of > inserts breaking off prematurely and he has added extra to the kit. > > Tom, Mike, Steve, Chris, and Michael, your bolts will go out tomorrow since > you either didn't want the kit, or you got on the list after the kit and > bolts had already left. I'll let you know about the cost (.80 ea plus > shipping) since they will be shipped separately. > > It would be considerate of those waiting if you would post here when you are > finished and sending it on to the next on the list. > > Later, - Lew > > do not archive > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Fly off completed ! > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375770#375770 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:22:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Audio Mixers
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    Well, I built my own audio panel/intercom, so I guess the answer to your question is 'yes'. Google "LM324" and "mixer" and you'll see some ideas. Or I can email you the circuit I used. Cost about $5. Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375790#375790




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