---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/16/12: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: Audio Mixers (Rodger Todd) 2. 01:06 PM - Re: Re: Mystery Oil Leak (solved) (Tim Olson) 3. 02:12 PM - Re: Mystery Oil Leak (solved) (dmaib@me.com) 4. 02:16 PM - Re: Audio Mixers (Bob Turner) 5. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: Mystery Oil Leak (solved) (Tim Olson) 6. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (John MacCallum) 7. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Audio Mixers (Rodger Todd) 8. 04:31 PM - Re: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool (Bob Condrey) 9. 04:32 PM - Re: Mystery Oil Leak (solved) (Bob Turner) 10. 05:32 PM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (DLM) 11. 05:38 PM - Re: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool (speckter@comcast.net) 12. 05:47 PM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (Kelly McMullen) 13. 06:25 PM - Re: Mounting rear seat headset jacks (nukeflyboy) 14. 06:41 PM - Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (Bob Turner) 15. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (Tim Olson) 16. 06:45 PM - Re: Update on Garmin G3X (nukeflyboy) 17. 07:31 PM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (DLM) 18. 10:07 PM - oil pressure (pilotdds) 19. 10:34 PM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (Phil Perry) 20. 10:58 PM - Re: oil pressure (Seano) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:23 PM PST US From: Rodger Todd Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Audio Mixers Thanks Bob, - That would be fantastic if you sent me the circuit, - Rodger - --- On Sat, 16/6/12, Bob Turner wrote: From: Bob Turner Subject: RV10-List: Re: Audio Mixers Well, I built my own audio panel/intercom, so I guess the answer to your qu estion is 'yes'. Google "LM324" and "mixer" and you'll see some ideas. Or I can email you th e circuit I used. Cost about $5. Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375790#375790 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:26 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Mystery Oil Leak (solved) Update: I got the prop back and learned a few things while I talked to them. First, they do NOT recommend 100 hour greasings. At most you'd want to do it annually, but then make SURE to stick to the 1oz recommendation and also use safety wire on the opposite zerk to dig out any pasted grease so it comes out easily. In fact, there is a saying that "if it ain't leaking, don't grease it" which makes some sense now that I've seen a cutaway view. Inside there, you don't have lots of fast rolling bearings...just bearings that let you rotate the prop. The grease just lubes that area and keeps it from rusting. So, it's unlikely to wear out the grease very fast, and if it isn't leaking it's probably going to last many many years. They feel that although they wouldn't recommend it, you could run to TBO on the grease that's in there IF it doesn't leak out. So, don't overgrease for sure...it's not like wheel bearings that need to be done real often. Also, apparently the original seals from Hartzell were "quad" (square) seals, and those leaked a lot. The prop shop actually had some better seals made up at one time that were round and made of something else. Hartzell also changed seals and had even worse leak issues. Not all that long ago, Hartzell finally updated their seals once again to some nice silicone material that lasts longer and seals better. So if you get new seals it will likely be better than original if you have the older seals of other types. With all of this done, I got the prop on and did a test flight and my leak problem is definitely gone! Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 6/13/2012 5:03 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > The issue is the forces the pitch change mechanism puts on the prop > and the engine bearings when the engine is not a full power and has no > air moving through it. Similar to a full power run up with twisting > forces added to the prop blades. On a Lycoming flat 4 or 6 cylinder, > cycling the prop only serves one purpose..to show that the pitch > change mechanism is working. Doing that as gently as possible reduces > the forces involved. Checking the mechanism multiple times a day > accomplishes nothing. Checking it first flight of the morning might > add a little confidence, but really isn't necessary. Nothing bad is > going to happen if the prop stays in fine pitch, that you can't > correct once at a safe altitude to return to the field. > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Fred Williams, M.D. > wrote: >> >> >> Kelly; >> >> I usually check the prop each time as part of my checklist. I just listen >> for the slight drop and then go back to fine pitch. You say it is not good >> for the engine or the prop. Why??? I can understand possibly strain on the >> bearings maybe, but in less than two minutes, I'm asking the engine for >> full power for takeoff. I'm trying to figure out if this is one of those >> "opinions" or what are the facts behind this issue. >> >> Thanks >> >> Dr Fred. >> >> >> On 6/13/2012 7:48 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >>> >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen >>> >>> Keep in mind that cycling a prop is NOT good for the prop or the >>> engine. Its only purpose is to verify that the prop control and >>> governor are operational, and a 100-200 rpm drop is more than >>> sufficient for that purpose. The blades will get rotated as part of >>> normal take-off and climb. I cringe every time I hear pilots deep >>> cycling props, as though they want to see if full coarse pitch can >>> stall the engine. >>> Latest thinking is to only cycle the prop if the plane hasn't flown >>> for awhile, and then just a small drop to verify the system is >>> functioning. >>> Kelly >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Bob Turner >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Turner" >>>> >>>> Some years ago our 182 (McCauley prop) started throwing grease, not too >>>> long after overhaul. Shop took it apart and put it back together, said they >>>> didn't find anything wrong. But the grease went away. Maybe a dirty O ring. >>>> McCauley suggested we cycle the prop 4 or 5 times during run ups to help >>>> keep O rings seated. >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> Bob Turner >>>> RV-10 QB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375481#375481 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:12:10 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Mystery Oil Leak (solved) From: "dmaib@me.com" Tim, that is pretty much exactly what Maxwell Propeller in Minneapolis told me when they overhauled the propeller on my old Bonanza. In fact, that was a Beechcraft propeller (no longer produced) and Maxwell actually took the grease zirks off and plugged them while performing the overhaul, saying there was no need to ever grease the Beechcraft propellers for the reasons you mention. Those old Beechcraft props were excellent. IIRC, there were zero AD's on a propeller that had been in service for several decades. They don't make em like that any more! -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Transition Trainer New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375816#375816 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:16:04 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Audio Mixers From: "Bob Turner" Sent by email; 2 emails, one a schematic (pdf file), the other a photo of my audio panel/intercom. Let me know if you don't get them. Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375818#375818 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:56 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Mystery Oil Leak (solved) Yeah, it was Maxwell that I went to too. They have so many props in the shop that I know I can trust their advice. Good folks. Due to my time pressure, which caused the wrong person to have to calculate my bill, I almost paid double....but I noticed something wrong and they checked it out. Ended up paying $800 but they repainted it too so it looks good and they alodined the wear pits and cleaned them up. I shouldn't have pushed the timeline which would have allowed the normal billing person to do it. I'm just glad it's good to go. Tim On Jun 16, 2012, at 4:11 PM, "dmaib@me.com" wrote: > > Tim, that is pretty much exactly what Maxwell Propeller in Minneapolis told me when they overhauled the propeller on my old Bonanza. In fact, that was a Beechcraft propeller (no longer produced) and Maxwell actually took the grease zirks off and plugged them while performing the overhaul, saying there was no need to ever grease the Beechcraft propellers for the reasons you mention. Those old Beechcraft props were excellent. IIRC, there were zero AD's on a propeller that had been in service for several decades. They don't make em like that any more! > > -------- > David Maib > RV-10 #40559 > Transition Trainer > New Smyrna Beach, FL > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375816#375816 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:43 PM PST US From: "John MacCallum" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) Um I don't know where this is going but from an outsider looking in we here in Australia are always amazed to see the The willingness of people in the US to resort a gun to protect their rights. If you have a look a the stats for the rest of The world it puts the US on par with a lot of countries one would not normally associate the USA with? I don't believe that Australia can claim any moral higher ground either. I think we should all look to a country like Japan Where to use a gun in a crime will result in a min 1 to 10 year jail term and hand guns and any automatic guns are just not allowed. My 2 cents worth :) Cheers John MacCallum Builder #41016 VH-DUU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:53 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) Not RV related. Please delete if not interested. Interesting firearm fact: 2011 Germany 250,000 police officers / 81 Million Population German police shot their firearms a total of 85 times in 2011. 49 Warning shots, 36 with intent to hit suspect. 2012 Los Angeles NYPD fired 84 rounds at one suspect LAPD fired 90 rounds at one suspect. Robin Do Not Archive Links if interested: http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-police-fired -just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwcyvzqvg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/case-of-man-shot-at-90-times-o n-freeway-tragic-lapd-says.html ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:44 PM PST US From: Rodger Todd Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Audio Mixers Hi Bob, - E-mails received. - Thanks very much, - Best wishes, - Rodger --- On Sat, 16/6/12, Bob Turner wrote: From: Bob Turner Subject: RV10-List: Re: Audio Mixers Sent by email; 2 emails, one a schematic (pdf file), the other a photo of my audio panel/i ntercom. Let me know if you don't get them. Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375818#375818 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:31:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool From: Bob Condrey I just spent about an hour and had no issues at all. I'm going to hold the kit for a couple of days for the extra inserts to arrive and will then send it on to Frank. Bob On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Lew Gallagher wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > The traveling insert kit is on the way. Gary had trouble with a couple of > inserts breaking off prematurely and he has added extra to the kit. > > Tom, Mike, Steve, Chris, and Michael, your bolts will go out tomorrow > since you either didn't want the kit, or you got on the list after the kit > and bolts had already left. I'll let you know about the cost (.80 ea plus > shipping) since they will be shipped separately. > > It would be considerate of those waiting if you would post here when you > are finished and sending it on to the next on the list. > > Later, - Lew > > do not archive > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Fly off completed ! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375770#375770 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:37 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Mystery Oil Leak (solved) From: "Bob Turner" Tim, David, Thanks for posting this useful information. My previous prop was a McCauley on a 182 and it didn't have any zerk fittings, so the Hartzel maintenance instructions seemed like a bit of overkill. No grease next year unless it's leaking! Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375840#375840 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:14 PM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) I am 68; too young to die and too old to survive a beating. I would not survive in a conflict with the Trayvons of the world (18, 6' 2" and a muscular 190 pounds). Therefore I have both training and permit to carry a weapon; I may lose my life in a confrontation but do not intend to give up willingly. I don't look for trouble and I believe "a soft answer turns away wrath" BUT if and when an officer asks "what are you afraid of?". "Not a damn thing." -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John MacCallum Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) --> Um I don't know where this is going but from an outsider looking in we here in Australia are always amazed to see the The willingness of people in the US to resort a gun to protect their rights. If you have a look a the stats for the rest of The world it puts the US on par with a lot of countries one would not normally associate the USA with? I don't believe that Australia can claim any moral higher ground either. I think we should all look to a country like Japan Where to use a gun in a crime will result in a min 1 to 10 year jail term and hand guns and any automatic guns are just not allowed. My 2 cents worth :) Cheers John MacCallum Builder #41016 VH-DUU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:53 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) Not RV related. Please delete if not interested. Interesting firearm fact: 2011 Germany 250,000 police officers / 81 Million Population German police shot their firearms a total of 85 times in 2011. 49 Warning shots, 36 with intent to hit suspect. 2012 Los Angeles NYPD fired 84 rounds at one suspect LAPD fired 90 rounds at one suspect. Robin Do Not Archive Links if interested: http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-police-fired -just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwcyvzqvg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/case-of-man-shot-at-90-times-o n-freeway-tragic-lapd-says.html ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:06 PM PST US From: speckter@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool I added 4 incerts so there should be extras Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Condrey" Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:30:48 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool I just spent about an hour and had no issues at all.=C2- I'm going to hol d the kit for a couple of days for the extra inserts to arrive and will the n send it on to Frank. =C2- Bob On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Lew Gallagher < lewgall@charter.net > wrot e: Hey Guys, The traveling insert kit is on the way. =C2-Gary had trouble with a coupl e of inserts breaking off prematurely and he has added extra to the kit. Tom, Mike, Steve, Chris, =C2-and Michael, your bolts will go out tomorrow since you either didn't want the kit, or you got on the list after the kit and bolts had already left. =C2-I'll let you know about the cost (.80 ea plus shipping) since they will be shipped separately. It would be considerate of those waiting if you would post here when you ar e finished and sending it on to the next on the list. Later, - Lew do not archive -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Fly off completed ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375770#375770 ties such as List Un/Subscription, ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List" target="_blank">http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matro nics.com =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. ===== == ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:47:49 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) The reason for a firearm in Alaska has nothing to do with protecting rights (well, maybe a little). It is all about having something to protect yourself from a bear that likes the smell of food in your plane, and the ability to supplement your diet for the weeks you may wait for search and rescue to locate and reach your unintended landing location. On 6/16/2012 2:44 PM, John MacCallum wrote: > > Um I don't know where this is going but from an outsider looking in we here > in Australia are always amazed to see the > The willingness of people in the US to resort a gun to protect their rights. > If you have a look a the stats for the rest of > The world it puts the US on par with a lot of countries one would not > normally associate the USA with? > > I don't believe that Australia can claim any moral higher ground either. I > think we should all look to a country like Japan > Where to use a gun in a crime will result in a min 1 to 10 year jail term > and hand guns and any automatic guns are just not allowed. > > My 2 cents worth :) > > > Cheers > John MacCallum > Builder #41016 > VH-DUU > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks > Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:53 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) > > > Not RV related. Please delete if not interested. > > Interesting firearm fact: > 2011 Germany 250,000 police officers / 81 Million Population > German police shot their firearms a total of 85 times in 2011. 49 Warning > shots, 36 with intent to hit suspect. > > 2012 Los Angeles > NYPD fired 84 rounds at one suspect > LAPD fired 90 rounds at one suspect. > > Robin > Do Not Archive > > Links if interested: > http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-police-fired > -just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwcyvzqvg > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/case-of-man-shot-at-90-times-o > n-freeway-tragic-lapd-says.html > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:15 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Mounting rear seat headset jacks From: "nukeflyboy" You could put the jacks on the rear seat crossbar support. That way the cords remain behind the seats and out of the way. -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375852#375852 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:02 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) From: "Bob Turner" When I went to AK I borrowed a shotgun and bought some 00 buckshot shells. I've always wondered if this would have discouraged a bear, or if it just would have made him angrier? Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375856#375856 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) From: Tim Olson Since I couldn't bring my 44mag in to Canada, I took a crash course in "Kung fu against bears" and as a backup I brought bear spray. With the large group there's not any real reason I'll have to hunt or go for an extended stay on the ground. If I were traveling alone or in a small group I'd have to get a compact shotgun. It really is a shame that you can't even bring a cased, locked, and secured handgun in while you transit the country....a 44mag really would be a good size to carry for emergencies up there. Mine is a medium length barrel that is long enough to hunt big game with but short enough to backpack with. As a gun owner I'm understanding to some of the feelings of those who have reservations about handguns but I do feel that they have their place and for me, traveling across the Yukon just seems like the perfect place, so it's sad that they're restricted. I run the middle of the road....I think carrying should be legal, but if you carry and go LOOKING for trouble, the punishment for you should be very severe. Responsibility... We accept it as pilots all the time. If only you could say the same for the general population. Anyway, probably getting a bit political for the list so we may want to get back to airplanes. The topic is related to Alaska but we don't need to argue the nations gun control laws or lack thereof. To those things most people already have their own solid opinion. I prefer to stay in the middle. Tim On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > The reason for a firearm in Alaska has nothing to do with protecting rights (well, maybe a little). It is all about having something to protect yourself from a bear that likes the smell of food in your plane, and the ability to supplement your diet for the weeks you may wait for search and rescue to locate and reach your unintended landing location. > > On 6/16/2012 2:44 PM, John MacCallum wrote: >> >> Um I don't know where this is going but from an outsider looking in we here >> in Australia are always amazed to see the >> The willingness of people in the US to resort a gun to protect their rights. >> If you have a look a the stats for the rest of >> The world it puts the US on par with a lot of countries one would not >> normally associate the USA with? >> >> I don't believe that Australia can claim any moral higher ground either. I >> think we should all look to a country like Japan >> Where to use a gun in a crime will result in a min 1 to 10 year jail term >> and hand guns and any automatic guns are just not allowed. >> >> My 2 cents worth :) >> >> >> Cheers >> John MacCallum >> Builder #41016 >> VH-DUU >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks >> Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:53 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) >> >> >> Not RV related. Please delete if not interested. >> >> Interesting firearm fact: >> 2011 Germany 250,000 police officers / 81 Million Population >> German police shot their firearms a total of 85 times in 2011. 49 Warning >> shots, 36 with intent to hit suspect. >> >> 2012 Los Angeles >> NYPD fired 84 rounds at one suspect >> LAPD fired 90 rounds at one suspect. >> >> Robin >> Do Not Archive >> >> Links if interested: >> http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-police-fired >> -just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwcyvzqvg >> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/case-of-man-shot-at-90-times-o >> n-freeway-tragic-lapd-says.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:51 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Update on Garmin G3X From: "nukeflyboy" I only have 32 hours on my G3X but I love it. It has all the bells and whistles as the others and then some. Geo-referenced approach plates and safe taxi, for example. Mine is a 3 screen system with PFD and MFD on the pilot side and a screen that does both on the right . These are configurable as are most things on the system. It interfaces flawlessly with the GX pilot A/P and GTN-650. With respect to operating costs if you are flying IFR I don't see much difference between the competitors. Jeppesen is going to get your $ one way or another. As I wrote a couple months ago in my comparison between GRT, AFS, and Garmin - there is not much difference in functionality. Dynon is not in the same league assuming you want a full capability IFR machine, otherwise their stuff is good too. I like the landscape screens a little better than the portrait style with the G3X but not enough to justify the price difference (at the time I was looking). I also like having 2 screens on the pilot side in the event that one goes TU. I use a Dynon D-6 as a backup which is a neat little unit. If you are wondering if I am happy with the G3X my response is yes. You will get the same response from the GRT and AFS guys too. We all like what we invested so much in. -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375860#375860 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:49 PM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) I concur with the 44; have a SW629, but the need for protection in AK is certainly more from the wildlife rather that the two legged critters there. Question is would you rather have a shotgun with 00 or "play dead" in the fetal position. After all you are fresh meat for the bears. Also pilots should carry SPOT or PLB for assistance there. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:43 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) Since I couldn't bring my 44mag in to Canada, I took a crash course in "Kung fu against bears" and as a backup I brought bear spray. With the large group there's not any real reason I'll have to hunt or go for an extended stay on the ground. If I were traveling alone or in a small group I'd have to get a compact shotgun. It really is a shame that you can't even bring a cased, locked, and secured handgun in while you transit the country....a 44mag really would be a good size to carry for emergencies up there. Mine is a medium length barrel that is long enough to hunt big game with but short enough to backpack with. As a gun owner I'm understanding to some of the feelings of those who have reservations about handguns but I do feel that they have their place and for me, traveling across the Yukon just seems like the perfect place, so it's sad that they're restricted. I run the middle of the road....I think carrying should be legal, but if you carry and go LOOKING for trou! ble, the punishment for you should be very severe. Responsibility... We accept it as pilots all the time. If only you could say the same for the general population. Anyway, probably getting a bit political for the list so we may want to get back to airplanes. The topic is related to Alaska but we don't need to argue the nations gun control laws or lack thereof. To those things most people already have their own solid opinion. I prefer to stay in the middle. Tim On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > The reason for a firearm in Alaska has nothing to do with protecting rights (well, maybe a little). It is all about having something to protect yourself from a bear that likes the smell of food in your plane, and the ability to supplement your diet for the weeks you may wait for search and rescue to locate and reach your unintended landing location. > > On 6/16/2012 2:44 PM, John MacCallum wrote: >> --> >> >> Um I don't know where this is going but from an outsider looking in >> we here in Australia are always amazed to see the The willingness of >> people in the US to resort a gun to protect their rights. >> If you have a look a the stats for the rest of The world it puts the >> US on par with a lot of countries one would not normally associate >> the USA with? >> >> I don't believe that Australia can claim any moral higher ground >> either. I think we should all look to a country like Japan Where to >> use a gun in a crime will result in a min 1 to 10 year jail term and >> hand guns and any automatic guns are just not allowed. >> >> My 2 cents worth :) >> >> >> Cheers >> John MacCallum >> Builder #41016 >> VH-DUU >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin >> Marks >> Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:53 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) >> >> >> Not RV related. Please delete if not interested. >> >> Interesting firearm fact: >> 2011 Germany 250,000 police officers / 81 Million Population German >> police shot their firearms a total of 85 times in 2011. 49 Warning >> shots, 36 with intent to hit suspect. >> >> 2012 Los Angeles >> NYPD fired 84 rounds at one suspect >> LAPD fired 90 rounds at one suspect. >> >> Robin >> Do Not Archive >> >> Links if interested: >> http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-polic >> e-fired >> -just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwcyvzqvg >> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/case-of-man-shot-at-90- >> times-o >> n-freeway-tragic-lapd-says.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:07:52 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: oil pressure From: pilotdds Can I get some input as to where some of you are running your cruise oil pr essure ,especially factory motors or those from engine builders.Lycoming re fers to airframe manufacturer and that isn't much help since that's me. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:34:01 PM PST US From: Phil Perry Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) I always fly with a handgun if I'm not going to some controlled airport. It's all about survival in the bush. But I do carry one in the city too and that is for personal defense. And Houston is so full of illegals and you need one here. Just watch the news and see how many murders are reported each day right here. I've been targeted before a few times and good situational awareness combined with quick thinking got me out of it. But that's enough about life in the southern boarder of the US. In the plane, I'll happily carry a handgun and use it to keep the family fed. There is a lot of remote country out there. Tim you should watch IAWOODSMAN on YouTube. Good stuff and you will appreciate (and feel more comfortable) having seen some of his training videos. He was an instructor at the USAF Survival School. It is known as one of the best survival programs out there. Phil Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:30 PM, "DLM" wrote: > > I concur with the 44; have a SW629, but the need for protection in AK is > certainly more from the wildlife rather that the two legged critters there. > Question is would you rather have a shotgun with 00 or "play dead" in the > fetal position. After all you are fresh meat for the bears. Also pilots > should carry SPOT or PLB for assistance there. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:43 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) > > > Since I couldn't bring my 44mag in to Canada, I took a crash course in "Kung > fu against bears" and as a backup I brought bear spray. With the large > group there's not any real reason I'll have to hunt or go for an extended > stay on the ground. If I were traveling alone or in a small group I'd have > to get a compact shotgun. It really is a shame that you can't even bring a > cased, locked, and secured handgun in while you transit the country....a > 44mag really would be a good size to carry for emergencies up there. Mine > is a medium length barrel that is long enough to hunt big game with but > short enough to backpack with. As a gun owner I'm understanding to some of > the feelings of those who have reservations about handguns but I do feel > that they have their place and for me, traveling across the Yukon just seems > like the perfect place, so it's sad that they're restricted. I run the > middle of the road....I think carrying should be legal, but if you carry and > go LOOKING for trou! > ble, the punishment for you should be very severe. Responsibility... We > accept it as pilots all the time. If only you could say the same for the > general population. > > Anyway, probably getting a bit political for the list so we may want to get > back to airplanes. The topic is related to Alaska but we don't need to > argue the nations gun control laws or lack thereof. To those things most > people already have their own solid opinion. I prefer to stay in the > middle. > > Tim > > > On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > >> >> The reason for a firearm in Alaska has nothing to do with protecting > rights (well, maybe a little). It is all about having something to protect > yourself from a bear that likes the smell of food in your plane, and the > ability to supplement your diet for the weeks you may wait for search and > rescue to locate and reach your unintended landing location. >> >> On 6/16/2012 2:44 PM, John MacCallum wrote: >>> --> >>> >>> Um I don't know where this is going but from an outsider looking in >>> we here in Australia are always amazed to see the The willingness of >>> people in the US to resort a gun to protect their rights. >>> If you have a look a the stats for the rest of The world it puts the >>> US on par with a lot of countries one would not normally associate >>> the USA with? >>> >>> I don't believe that Australia can claim any moral higher ground >>> either. I think we should all look to a country like Japan Where to >>> use a gun in a crime will result in a min 1 to 10 year jail term and >>> hand guns and any automatic guns are just not allowed. >>> >>> My 2 cents worth :) >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> John MacCallum >>> Builder #41016 >>> VH-DUU >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin >>> Marks >>> Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:53 AM >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) >>> >>> >>> Not RV related. Please delete if not interested. >>> >>> Interesting firearm fact: >>> 2011 Germany 250,000 police officers / 81 Million Population German >>> police shot their firearms a total of 85 times in 2011. 49 Warning >>> shots, 36 with intent to hit suspect. >>> >>> 2012 Los Angeles >>> NYPD fired 84 rounds at one suspect >>> LAPD fired 90 rounds at one suspect. >>> >>> Robin >>> Do Not Archive >>> >>> Links if interested: >>> http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-polic >>> e-fired >>> -just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwcyvzqvg >>> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/case-of-man-shot-at-90- >>> times-o >>> n-freeway-tragic-lapd-says.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:58:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: oil pressure From: Seano 65-75 psi for me on cruise. Hot days 67 cold days 75. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2012, at 23:06, pilotdds wrote: > Can I get some input as to where some of you are running your cruise oil p ressure ,especially factory motors or those from engine builders.Lycoming re fers to airframe manufacturer and that isn't much help since that's me. > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.