RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/18/12


Total Messages Posted: 30



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     1. 12:46 AM - Re: Autopilot Service Bulletin - update (Etandrews)
     2. 01:14 AM - Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (John MacCallum)
     3. 01:26 AM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (John MacCallum)
     4. 02:12 AM - Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot (Gordon Anderson)
     5. 04:49 AM - Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot (James McGrew)
     6. 06:03 AM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (DLM)
     7. 06:30 AM - Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results (Tim Olson)
     8. 06:50 AM - Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results (Jesse Saint)
     9. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (Kelly McMullen)
    10. 08:05 AM - Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results (carl.froehlich@verizon.net)
    11. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (Danny Riggs)
    12. 08:55 AM - Re: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) (Kelly McMullen)
    13. 11:00 AM - Re: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) (George, Neal Capt 505 TRS/DOJ)
    14. 11:41 AM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (DLM)
    15. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying) (Deems Davis)
    16. 01:02 PM - Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying) (dmaib@me.com)
    17. 01:23 PM - Re: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
    18. 01:30 PM - Re: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) (James McGrew)
    19. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (Kelly McMullen)
    20. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying) (Kelly McMullen)
    21. 01:54 PM - Re: Autopilot Service Bulletin - update (Bob Turner)
    22. 02:13 PM - Re: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying) (DLM)
    23. 02:25 PM - Re: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying) (DLM)
    24. 02:39 PM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (John MacCallum)
    25. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) (John MacCallum)
    26. 03:57 PM - Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results (jchang10)
    27. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results ()
    28. 07:59 PM - Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results (Don McDonald)
    29. 08:14 PM - Re: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results (David Maib)
    30. 08:21 PM - Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results (David Maib)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:46:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Autopilot Service Bulletin - update
    From: Etandrews <etandrews@westnet.com.au>
    Everyone, I was sent this info re Trio All Gold servos, by a friend yesterday, that ma y apply to some of you Regards Evan 40379 flying VH-OSH > Trio Avionics has issued a service bulletin on the Gold Standard servo. P lease see http://www.trioavionics.com/Field_Change.htm > Note this sentence - If you find that the pin protrudes more than 1/16 in ch out of the hub, notify the factory of the servo serial number and return t he servo for service =93 > The =98pin=99 referred to is the existing one going through th e shaft & collar on the other side of the hub/crank-arm. Please contact th em on +1 619 448 4619 > The Service Bulletin applies to ALL =98GOLD=99 servos i.e. Ele vator & Aileron. There is an existing hole in the servo shaft that you will need to put the split pin in. Shaft is approx. 8mm in diameter (washer) a nd hole for split pin is 3mm.


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    Time: 01:14:09 AM PST US
    From: "John MacCallum" <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: Alaska (was bahamas)
    I don't have a problem with people protecting themselves from wild animals if they have a licence for the gun and a reason to have the gun. If I was going bush in Alaska for days on end I would probably want a gun as well! I would not live off the native wildlife as a matter of choice but I can see where you may have too! John MacCallum VH-DUU RV 10 # 41016 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) The reason for a firearm in Alaska has nothing to do with protecting rights (well, maybe a little). It is all about having something to protect yourself from a bear that likes the smell of food in your plane, and the ability to supplement your diet for the weeks you may wait for search and rescue to locate and reach your unintended landing location. On 6/16/2012 2:44 PM, John MacCallum wrote: > --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> > > Um I don't know where this is going but from an outsider looking in we > here in Australia are always amazed to see the The willingness of > people in the US to resort a gun to protect their rights. > If you have a look a the stats for the rest of The world it puts the > US on par with a lot of countries one would not normally associate the > USA with? > > I don't believe that Australia can claim any moral higher ground > either. I think we should all look to a country like Japan Where to > use a gun in a crime will result in a min 1 to 10 year jail term and > hand guns and any automatic guns are just not allowed. > > My 2 cents worth :) > > > Cheers > John MacCallum > Builder #41016 > VH-DUU > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks > Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:53 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) > > > Not RV related. Please delete if not interested. > > Interesting firearm fact: > 2011 Germany 250,000 police officers / 81 Million Population German > police shot their firearms a total of 85 times in 2011. 49 Warning > shots, 36 with intent to hit suspect. > > 2012 Los Angeles > NYPD fired 84 rounds at one suspect > LAPD fired 90 rounds at one suspect. > > Robin > Do Not Archive > > Links if interested: > http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-police > -fired > -just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwcyvzqvg > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/case-of-man-shot-at-90-t > imes-o > n-freeway-tragic-lapd-says.html > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 01:26:38 AM PST US
    From: "John MacCallum" <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: Alaska (was bahamas)
    That's a fairly common statement from a lot of people. I have the same concern but the likely hood of it happening is very remote! Trayvon was 17 years old and obviously not real smart since he took a walk through a Gated community full of people that were concerned with holding onto their Worldly possessions and paranoid as well! Otherwise they would not have been living in a gated community in the first place. If someone jumps on you without identifying themselves to you, and whom is obviously not a police officer why would you not resist them? Also The autopsy report stated he was 5 feet, 11 inches and weighed 158 pounds. And I prefer to leave the bible out of things because it too often is used to justify illogical behavior. Cheers John MacCallum VH-DUU RV 10 # 41016 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:31 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) I am 68; too young to die and too old to survive a beating. I would not survive in a conflict with the Trayvons of the world (18, 6' 2" and a muscular 190 pounds). Therefore I have both training and permit to carry a weapon; I may lose my life in a confrontation but do not intend to give up willingly. I don't look for trouble and I believe "a soft answer turns away wrath" BUT if and when an officer asks "what are you afraid of?". "Not a damn thing." -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John MacCallum Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> Um I don't know where this is going but from an outsider looking in we here in Australia are always amazed to see the The willingness of people in the US to resort a gun to protect their rights. If you have a look a the stats for the rest of The world it puts the US on par with a lot of countries one would not normally associate the USA with? I don't believe that Australia can claim any moral higher ground either. I think we should all look to a country like Japan Where to use a gun in a crime will result in a min 1 to 10 year jail term and hand guns and any automatic guns are just not allowed. My 2 cents worth :) Cheers John MacCallum Builder #41016 VH-DUU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:53 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) Not RV related. Please delete if not interested. Interesting firearm fact: 2011 Germany 250,000 police officers / 81 Million Population German police shot their firearms a total of 85 times in 2011. 49 Warning shots, 36 with intent to hit suspect. 2012 Los Angeles NYPD fired 84 rounds at one suspect LAPD fired 90 rounds at one suspect. Robin Do Not Archive Links if interested: http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-police-fired -just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwcyvzqvg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/case-of-man-shot-at-90-times-o n-freeway-tragic-lapd-says.html <Bnbsp; Navigator Photoshare, and href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronicp; the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== ===========


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    Time: 02:12:29 AM PST US
    From: Gordon Anderson <mregoan@hispeed.ch>
    Subject: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot
    One point I have read is that for ideal air cooling, (high flow, low drag), the bottom of the firewall should be well rounded - rather than leaving the firewall flange sticking forward into the airflow. I have only found one inconclusive reference to this idea in the RV-10 archive, but some discussion of it in reference to RV.6 on VAF and a great photo: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/241/outletrampcb0.jpg/ It would seem fairly simple to attach a curved fairing while riveting the firewall flange. Has anyone tried this on the -10 and got some numbers to prove or disprove the theory? Gordon 41015, Switzerland Firewall furnishing and a thousand other little jobs > From: Carl Froehlich > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:30 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot > > For you that have your planes flying, did you put a plate in on the lower cowl to cover the gear leg slot forward of the gear leg or do you just leave it open? > > Carl > 9 hours ' still tweaking the gear leg fairings


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    Time: 04:49:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot
    From: James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu>
    I tried taping it up with aluminum tape. I didn't see any difference in temp and decided not to build a plate. This is with a slot that I have lengthened by 2 1/4 inches beyond stock to ease installation of the bottom cowl. -Jim On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.ne t > wrote: > For you that have your planes flying, did you put a plate in on the lower > cowl to cover the gear leg slot forward of the gear leg or do you just > leave it open?**** > > > Carl**** > > 9 hours ' still tweaking the gear leg fairings**** > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 06:03:01 AM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Alaska (was bahamas)
    A world without violence would be great but until that time I will "speak softly and carry a big stick". I prefer to wait for the trial facts in Florida as our media has an agenda. For example, they have virtually ignored the attack by a mob of Trayvons on a family at the Wisconsin State Fair before the media hype of the Florida incident and afterwards virtually ignored another similar mob attack on two of their own (reporters) in Virginia. Several other attacks have barely made any news here so would probably not even be reported in OZ. You won't see it in our media but Google the city of "de trois" sometime. Look at the pictures and determine whether you would go there armed or unarmed or at all. Lest you think I am one of the isolated Americans, I traveled widely in Europe and Asia and worked and lived for 16 years in the Middle East. But for the US this communication would probably be in German or Japanese. If you like, we can take the discussion off the list since this hardly touches our RV10s. IIRC your comment changed this thread from flying to Alaska.to our culture. fiy aman Allah _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John MacCallum Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:26 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) That's a fairly common statement from a lot of people. I have the same concern but the likely hood of it happening is very remote! Trayvon was 17 years old and obviously not real smart since he took a walk through a Gated community full of people that were concerned with holding onto their Worldly possessions and paranoid as well! Otherwise they would not have been living in a gated community in the first place. If someone jumps on you without identifying themselves to you, and whom is obviously not a police officer why would you not resist them? Also The autopsy report stated he was 5 feet, 11 inches and weighed 158 pounds. And I prefer to leave the bible out of things because it too often is used to justify illogical behavior. Cheers John MacCallum VH-DUU RV 10 # 41016 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:31 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) I am 68; too young to die and too old to survive a beating. I would not survive in a conflict with the Trayvons of the world (18, 6' 2" and a muscular 190 pounds). Therefore I have both training and permit to carry a weapon; I may lose my life in a confrontation but do not intend to give up willingly. I don't look for trouble and I believe "a soft answer turns away wrath" BUT if and when an officer asks "what are you afraid of?". "Not a damn thing." -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John MacCallum Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> Um I don't know where this is going but from an outsider looking in we here in Australia are always amazed to see the The willingness of people in the US to resort a gun to protect their rights. If you have a look a the stats for the rest of The world it puts the US on par with a lot of countries one would not normally associate the USA with? I don't believe that Australia can claim any moral higher ground either. I think we should all look to a country like Japan Where to use a gun in a crime will result in a min 1 to 10 year jail term and hand guns and any automatic guns are just not allowed. My 2 cents worth :) Cheers John MacCallum Builder #41016 VH-DUU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:53 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) Not RV related. Please delete if not interested. Interesting firearm fact: 2011 Germany 250,000 police officers / 81 Million Population German police shot their firearms a total of 85 times in 2011. 49 Warning shots, 36 with intent to hit suspect. 2012 Los Angeles NYPD fired 84 rounds at one suspect LAPD fired 90 rounds at one suspect. Robin Do Not Archive Links if interested: http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-police-fired -just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwcyvzqvg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/case-of-man-shot-at-90-times-o n-freeway-tragic-lapd-says.html <Bnbsp; Navigator Photoshare, and href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronicp; the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== =========== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 06:30:24 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results
    RE #4: "4. Im on my second round of mounting the wheel pants and leg fairings. They make a huge speed difference but they are a pain to get right. First flight today the ball was in the center but favoring the right side. Second flight (no changes to the pants or fairings) the ball was in the center but favoring the left side. Go figure. With the pants and fairing off the ball is dead center. " I've found that a jab of the rudder pedal one way or the other will often leave it settled in at a new trim point. I've also had happen to me, and others have as well, the nosewheel doesn't trail perfectly straight. Some of this will likely affect your ability to get the ball to center all of the time. I'm guessing that with the nosewheel tightened up well so that it doesn't shimmy, it has some stiction that keeps it in trail at whatever angle, so the stab of the rudder pedal may or may not shift the nosewheel to a new stiction point. At any rate, having rudder trim makes it easy to trim out, but I definitely don't ALWAYS have the same neutral rudder trim position. Tim On 6/17/2012 6:11 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > Just back from a run with the forward gear leg slot cover removed. I > ran the same test pattern as my earlier flight of the day to get > reasonable comparison data. OAT was warmer (80) on the second run > however. I have a stock Vans engine and Hartzell prop. > > Climb out (full throttle climb, 140kts, to 6500. CHTs 10-15 degrees > cooler with the slot cover removed. With the cover on #6 at 430, then > #5 at 420 and the rest at 400 or below. With the cover off #6 hottest > at 420, #5 at 410, rest below 400. > > CHTs in level flight not much difference, perhaps slightly cooler with > the cover off. CHTs range from 370 to 390. > > Oil temp I have had the oil air butterfly door full open for climb, > and perhaps half shut in level flight to keep oil temp around 190 or > so. If anything I would say there is less air for the cooler with the > cover off but no practical difference. I suspect this reflects a > reduce pressure drop across the cooler with the cover off as the lower > cowl exit area has more air flow. I did not use the Vans oil mount - > I have the cooler mounted horizontally on the firewall. > > Speed. 6500, 23.5, 2400 RPM ROP, TAS 184kts cover on, 181kts cover off. > > LOP run, 6500, 23.5, 2350 RPM, TAS 168kts cover on (12.2gph), 170kts > cover off(12.5gph). I suspect this result reflects the slightly higher > fuel flow for the second data run. > > 11.5 hours on the 10 now. Here are a few notes for those getting ready > for first flight: > > 1.Tighten the nose gear nut after the first couple of landings. I did > mine at 9 hours and it was way loose. The 9^th hour landing nose gear > feedback (shimmy) was pronounced. > > 2.While there has been a lot of discussion on the list about greasing > the prop, recommend you at least do the after the first hour greasing > as discussed in the Hartwell manual. > > 3.I have a GTN-650 and a PS Engineering Audio panel. It turns out > Garmin has a software problem that screws up mic audio gain if you use > one of these panels. There is a fix, but you have to go to a Garmin > dealer to get it (and then it still does not work as good as it > should). Id still much rather have an updated GX-60 and a SL-30 combo > instead of this over priced box. > > 4.Im on my second round of mounting the wheel pants and leg fairings. > They make a huge speed difference but they are a pain to get right. > First flight today the ball was in the center but favoring the right > side. Second flight (no changes to the pants or fairings) the ball was > in the center but favoring the left side. Go figure. With the pants > and fairing off the ball is dead center. > > 5.Rigging. It took six months of chasing my tail to get the rigging > right on the 8A (easier once I broke the code). The 10 was dead on > right out of the box. > > 6.Elevator trim. Remember that half way in not neutral. Make sure you > know where neutral really is on the panel, start there and then figure > out your setting you want for takeoff. > > 28.5 more hours and then a long awaited western trip this fall. > > Carl > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Froehlich > *Sent:* Sunday, June 17, 2012 2:53 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot > > Thanks. > > First 9 hours I had a plate installed. I do a few hours without it and > see if there is any difference. > > Carl > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *bob-tcw > *Sent:* Sunday, June 17, 2012 2:38 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot > > Carl, I left the nose gear leg opening....open. Cooling has been fine > > Bob Newman > > N541RV > > 70hrs > > *From:*Carl Froehlich <mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net> > > *Sent:*Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:30 PM > > *To:*rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > > *Subject:*RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot > > For you that have your planes flying, did you put a plate in on the > lower cowl to cover the gear leg slot forward of the gear leg or do you > just leave it open? > > > Carl > > 9 hours still tweaking the gear leg fairings > > * *


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    Time: 06:50:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    My experience is the same. It could be that aerodynamically the 26 lbs of force to pivot the nose wheel side to side is just the right amount to avoid a shimmy but keep the nose wheel in perfect trail while cruising. In practice, I think it's almost impossible to get the 26 lbs required, and certainly is impossible to keep it. I usually tighten to the flat (with the cotter pin hole lined up) that provides a fair amount of pivot drag, but never measure the force any more. Also, when I am trimming the rudder, I trim a little, then tap on that pedal to see where the ball settles. I never pay attention to the position of my rudder trim tab. It isn't big enough to cause a dangerous situation if it is way out of trim at takeoff. The same goes for my aileron trim, since neither of them have a position sensor, although I can see the aileron trim tab in flight and it usually is only less than 10% out of trail to keep things flying level. The elevator trim is definitely big enough to cause a problem if it's way out, so I always trim that to a little bit nose down of center for takeoff, then I adjust for climb based on how I am loaded and how I need to climb for CHT's and Oil Temp. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > RE #4: > "4. Im on my second round of mounting the wheel pants and leg fairings. They make a huge speed difference but they are a pain to get right. First flight today the ball was in the center but favoring the right side. Second flight (no changes to the pants or fairings) the ball was in the center but favoring the left side. Go figure. With the pants and fairing off the ball is dead center. " > > I've found that a jab of the rudder pedal one way or the other > will often leave it settled in at a new trim point. I've also > had happen to me, and others have as well, the nosewheel doesn't > trail perfectly straight. Some of this will likely affect > your ability to get the ball to center all of the time. I'm > guessing that with the nosewheel tightened up well so that it > doesn't shimmy, it has some stiction that keeps it in trail > at whatever angle, so the stab of the rudder pedal may or may not > shift the nosewheel to a new stiction point. At any rate, having > rudder trim makes it easy to trim out, but I definitely don't > ALWAYS have the same neutral rudder trim position. > > Tim > > > > On 6/17/2012 6:11 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote: >> Just back from a run with the forward gear leg slot cover removed. I >> ran the same test pattern as my earlier flight of the day to get >> reasonable comparison data. OAT was warmer (80) on the second run >> however. I have a stock Vans engine and Hartzell prop. >> >> Climb out (full throttle climb, 140kts, to 6500. CHTs 10-15 degrees >> cooler with the slot cover removed. With the cover on #6 at 430, then >> #5 at 420 and the rest at 400 or below. With the cover off #6 hottest >> at 420, #5 at 410, rest below 400. >> >> CHTs in level flight not much difference, perhaps slightly cooler with >> the cover off. CHTs range from 370 to 390. >> >> Oil temp I have had the oil air butterfly door full open for climb, >> and perhaps half shut in level flight to keep oil temp around 190 or >> so. If anything I would say there is less air for the cooler with the >> cover off but no practical difference. I suspect this reflects a >> reduce pressure drop across the cooler with the cover off as the lower >> cowl exit area has more air flow. I did not use the Vans oil mount - >> I have the cooler mounted horizontally on the firewall. >> >> Speed. 6500, 23.5, 2400 RPM ROP, TAS 184kts cover on, 181kts cover off. >> >> LOP run, 6500, 23.5, 2350 RPM, TAS 168kts cover on (12.2gph), 170kts >> cover off(12.5gph). I suspect this result reflects the slightly higher >> fuel flow for the second data run. >> >> 11.5 hours on the 10 now. Here are a few notes for those getting ready >> for first flight: >> >> 1.Tighten the nose gear nut after the first couple of landings. I did >> mine at 9 hours and it was way loose. The 9^th hour landing nose gear >> feedback (shimmy) was pronounced. >> >> 2.While there has been a lot of discussion on the list about greasing >> the prop, recommend you at least do the after the first hour greasing >> as discussed in the Hartwell manual. >> >> 3.I have a GTN-650 and a PS Engineering Audio panel. It turns out >> Garmin has a software problem that screws up mic audio gain if you use >> one of these panels. There is a fix, but you have to go to a Garmin >> dealer to get it (and then it still does not work as good as it >> should). Id still much rather have an updated GX-60 and a SL-30 combo >> instead of this over priced box. >> >> 4.Im on my second round of mounting the wheel pants and leg fairings. >> They make a huge speed difference but they are a pain to get right. >> First flight today the ball was in the center but favoring the right >> side. Second flight (no changes to the pants or fairings) the ball was >> in the center but favoring the left side. Go figure. With the pants >> and fairing off the ball is dead center. >> >> 5.Rigging. It took six months of chasing my tail to get the rigging >> right on the 8A (easier once I broke the code). The 10 was dead on >> right out of the box. >> >> 6.Elevator trim. Remember that half way in not neutral. Make sure you >> know where neutral really is on the panel, start there and then figure >> out your setting you want for takeoff. >> >> 28.5 more hours and then a long awaited western trip this fall. >> >> Carl >> >> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Froehlich >> *Sent:* Sunday, June 17, 2012 2:53 PM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot >> >> Thanks. >> >> First 9 hours I had a plate installed. I do a few hours without it and >> see if there is any difference. >> >> Carl >> >> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *bob-tcw >> *Sent:* Sunday, June 17, 2012 2:38 PM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot >> >> Carl, I left the nose gear leg opening....open. Cooling has been fine >> >> Bob Newman >> >> N541RV >> >> 70hrs >> >> *From:*Carl Froehlich <mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net> >> >> *Sent:*Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:30 PM >> >> *To:*rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> >> >> *Subject:*RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot >> >> For you that have your planes flying, did you put a plate in on the >> lower cowl to cover the gear leg slot forward of the gear leg or do you >> just leave it open? >> >> >> Carl >> >> 9 hours still tweaking the gear leg fairings >> >> * * > > > >


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    Time: 07:36:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Alaska (was bahamas)
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    I know it is difficult for those in other cultures to comprehend, but the US does not require a license to own or carry a gun, unless you want to carry it concealed. While guns in recent years are registered when purchased from a dealer, there is no accounting for guns that existed from around 50 or more years ago, and no tracking of private sales of guns. We have this little artifact of history, that guns enabled our country to escape from a tyrannical (perhaps alleged) king. So a right was established in our constitution allowing us to own and bear arms. Which means that we can mount a gun rack in or outside our RV-10s if that is our desire. But such modifications slow down the build process. ;-) On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:13 AM, John MacCallum <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> wrote: > > I don't have a problem with people protecting themselves from wild animals > if they have a licence for the gun and > a reason to have the gun. If I was going bush in Alaska for days on end I > would probably want a gun as well! I would not > live off the native wildlife as a matter of choice but I can see where you > may have too! > > John MacCallum > VH-DUU > RV 10 # 41016 > >


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    Time: 08:05:56 AM PST US
    From: "carl.froehlich@verizon.net" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results
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    Time: 08:28:59 AM PST US
    From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Alaska (was bahamas)
    I have a problem with those that flaunt their guns in public. Just because you can care a weapon to a rally to see the president speak or walk down th e middle of a subdivision carrying an AR-15=2C that doesn't mean that is pr udent to do so. Like a lot of things in life.....you have to use common sen se. If you feel the need to carry=2C then get the permit to do so like all the rest of us! > Date: Mon=2C 18 Jun 2012 07:35:46 -0700 > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) > From: apilot2@gmail.com > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > > I know it is difficult for those in other cultures to comprehend=2C but > the US does not require a license to own or carry a gun=2C unless you > want to carry it concealed. While guns in recent years are registered > when purchased from a dealer=2C there is no accounting for guns that > existed from around 50 or more years ago=2C and no tracking of private > sales of guns. We have this little artifact of history=2C that guns > enabled our country to escape from a tyrannical (perhaps alleged) > king. So a right was established in our constitution allowing us to > own and bear arms. Which means that we can mount a gun rack in or > outside our RV-10s if that is our desire. But such modifications slow > down the build process. =3B-) > > On Mon=2C Jun 18=2C 2012 at 1:13 AM=2C John MacCallum > <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> wrote: nd.com> > > > > I don't have a problem with people protecting themselves from wild anim als > > if they have a licence for the gun and > > a reason to have the gun. If I was going bush in Alaska for days on end I > > would probably want a gun as well! I would not > > live off the native wildlife as a matter of choice but I can see where you > > may have too! > > > > John MacCallum > > VH-DUU > > RV 10 # 41016 > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 08:55:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re:Guns (was Alaska )
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    I agree with the use of common sense. On the other hand, why would you see a need to have a permit system to allow open (unconcealed) carry? Concealed carry, sure, but why when everyone can see your weapon and whether you are pointing it appropriately at the ground or not. Plenty of laws about inappropriate handling of guns already. Do Not Archive On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote: > I have a problem with those that flaunt their guns in public. Just because > you can care a weapon to a rally to see the president speak or walk down the > middle of a subdivision carrying an AR-15, that doesn't mean that is prudent > to do so. Like a lot of things in life.....you have to use common sense. If > you feel the need to carry, then get the permit to do so like all the rest > of us!


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    Time: 11:00:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re:Guns (was Alaska )
    From: "George, Neal Capt 505 TRS/DOJ" <Neal.George@hurlburt.af.mil>
    Fact: Amendment II. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. The Constitution of the United States, est 1776, as Amended, 1791. Opinion: Seems right clear to me. I don't see a caveat for mode of carry. Further, no reference to permits or certification that I can find - in fact, "shall not be infringed" seems to expressly forbid those restrictions. neal -----Original Message----- I agree with the use of common sense. On the other hand, why would you see a need to have a permit system to allow open (unconcealed) carry? Concealed carry, sure, but why when everyone can see your weapon and whether you are pointing it appropriately at the ground or not. Plenty of laws about inappropriate handling of guns already. Do Not Archive On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote: > I have a problem with those that flaunt their guns in public. Just because > you can care a weapon to a rally to see the president speak or walk down the > middle of a subdivision carrying an AR-15, that doesn't mean that is prudent > to do so. Like a lot of things in life.....you have to use common sense. If > you feel the need to carry, then get the permit to do so like all the rest > of us!


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    Time: 11:41:33 AM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Alaska (was bahamas)
    It certainly does slow the build process but not as much as a permanent mount and an approriate gun sight for those pesky Cessnas in the pattern. "switchin to guns" -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:36 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) I know it is difficult for those in other cultures to comprehend, but the US does not require a license to own or carry a gun, unless you want to carry it concealed. While guns in recent years are registered when purchased from a dealer, there is no accounting for guns that existed from around 50 or more years ago, and no tracking of private sales of guns. We have this little artifact of history, that guns enabled our country to escape from a tyrannical (perhaps alleged) king. So a right was established in our constitution allowing us to own and bear arms. Which means that we can mount a gun rack in or outside our RV-10s if that is our desire. But such modifications slow down the build process. ;-) On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:13 AM, John MacCallum <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> wrote: > --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> > > I don't have a problem with people protecting themselves from wild > animals if they have a licence for the gun and a reason to have the > gun. If I was going bush in Alaska for days on end I would probably > want a gun as well! I would not live off the native wildlife as a > matter of choice but I can see where you may have too! > > John MacCallum > VH-DUU > RV 10 # 41016 > >


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    Time: 11:54:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying)
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    How about them Red Sox!!! On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com> wrote: > ** > > It certainly does slow the build process but not as much as a permanent > mount and an approriate gun sight for those pesky Cessnas in the pattern. > "switchin to guns" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [ > mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] > On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:36 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) > > > I know it is difficult for those in other cultures to comprehend, but the > US does not require a license to own or carry a gun, unless you want to > carry it concealed. While guns in recent years are registered when > purchased from a dealer, there is no accounting for guns that existed from > around 50 or more years ago, and no tracking of private sales of guns. We > have this little artifact of history, that guns enabled our country to > escape from a tyrannical (perhaps alleged) king. So a right was established > in our constitution allowing us to own and bear arms. Which means that we > can mount a gun rack in or outside our RV-10s if that is our desire. But > such modifications slow down the build process. ;-) > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:13 AM, John MacCallum < > john.maccallum@bigpond.com> wrote: > > --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> > > > > I don't have a problem with people protecting themselves from wild > > animals if they have a licence for the gun and a reason to have the > > gun. If I was going bush in Alaska for days on end I would probably > > want a gun as well! I would not live off the native wildlife as a > > matter of choice but I can see where you may have too! > > > > John MacCallum > > VH-DUU > > RV 10 # Navigator much much href=" > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronicp; > the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; href=" > http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> > http://www.matronics.com/c================ > > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 01:02:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying)
    From: "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com>
    Thanks Deems. I was beginning to think I had inadvertently logged on to something other than an RV-10 forum. :? BTW, did you see my info on VAF about the leaking Newton fuel caps? It seems that I've found the fix. New o ring for the center shaft of the cap mechanism. This requires taking the cap apart, and unless you have, or can fashion, a tool to get the red piece off without damaging it, will also require a new red piece. Contact Robin Voice at Newton SPRL http://www.newtonsprl.co.uk/index.html and he will send you the parts. He is going to be at Oshkosh next month and will bring some parts with him, if you are planning to attend. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Transition Trainer New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376010#376010


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    Time: 01:23:09 PM PST US
    From: davidsoutpost@comcast.net
    Subject: Re:Guns (was Alaska )
    I pushed a scout car around the City of Southfield MI for 28 years and am a firm believer and promoter of our Second Amendment Rights. Those that don't like this right are free to move to China or any other country that does not allow its "citizens" to arm themselves. That being said, I do plan on keeping a survival type light weight rifle in the baggage compartment of my RV-10. If I survive the crash in a remote area, I want to be able to defend and feed myself. God gave us the opportunity to be at the top of the food chain and that's where I intend to stay! ;) David Clifford RV-10 Builder Howell, MI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Capt 505 TRS/DOJ George" <Neal.George@hurlburt.af.mil> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:57:40 PM Subject: RE: OT RV10-List: Re:Guns (was Alaska ) Fact: Amendment II. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. The Constitution of the United States, est 1776, as Amended, 1791. Opinion: Seems right clear to me. I don't see a caveat for mode of carry. Further, no reference to permits or certification that I can find - in fact, "shall not be infringed" seems to expressly forbid those restrictions. neal -----Original Message----- I agree with the use of common sense. On the other hand, why would you see a need to have a permit system to allow open (unconcealed) carry? Concealed carry, sure, but why when everyone can see your weapon and whether you are pointing it appropriately at the ground or not. Plenty of laws about inappropriate handling of guns already. Do Not Archive On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote: > I have a problem with those that flaunt their guns in public. Just because > you can care a weapon to a rally to see the president speak or walk down the > middle of a subdivision carrying an AR-15, that doesn't mean that is prudent > to do so. Like a lot of things in life.....you have to use common sense. If > you feel the need to carry, then get the permit to do so like all the rest > of us!


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    Time: 01:30:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re:Guns (was Alaska )
    From: James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu>
    Let's stick to airplanes. Google is starting to show me adds based on this off topic discussion. -Jim


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    Time: 01:37:09 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Alaska (was bahamas)
    They didn't have those in the stock Van's optional kits when you built? :-P On 6/18/2012 11:40 AM, DLM wrote: > > It certainly does slow the build process but not as much as a > permanent mount and an approriate gun sight for those pesky Cessnas in > the pattern. > "switchin to guns" > > ** ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 01:37:21 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying)
    Sounds like Heat and Thunder to me after them Spurs and Celtics ran out of gas. On 6/18/2012 11:53 AM, Deems Davis wrote: > How about them Red Sox!!! > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com > <mailto:dlm34077@q.com>> wrote: > > It certainly does slow the build process but not as much as a > permanent mount and an approriate gun sight for those pesky > Cessnas in the pattern. > "switchin to guns" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly > McMullen > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:36 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) > > <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>> > > I know it is difficult for those in other cultures to comprehend, > but the US does not require a license to own or carry a gun, > unless you want to carry it concealed. While guns in recent years > are registered when purchased from a dealer, there is no > accounting for guns that existed from around 50 or more years ago, > and no tracking of private sales of guns. We have this little > artifact of history, that guns enabled our country to escape from > a tyrannical (perhaps alleged) king. So a right was established in > our constitution allowing us to own and bear arms. Which means > that we can mount a gun rack in or outside our RV-10s if that is > our desire. But such modifications slow down the build process. ;-) > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:13 AM, John MacCallum > <john.maccallum@bigpond.com <mailto:john.maccallum@bigpond.com>> > wrote: > > --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com <mailto:john.maccallum@bigpond.com>> > > > > I don't have a problem with people protecting themselves from wild > > animals if they have a licence for the gun and a reason to have the > > gun. If I was going bush in Alaska for days on end I would probably > > want a gun as well! I would not live off the native wildlife as a > > matter of choice but I can see where you may have too! > > > > John MacCallum > > VH-DUU > > RV 10 # Navigator much much > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronicp; > the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c================ > > > * > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > > > * ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 01:54:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Autopilot Service Bulletin - update
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    Just to be clear, Trio is recommending you put a washer and cotter pin (hole already exists) onto the end of the servo shaft, so that should the arm come loose it won't fall off its shaft, land somewhere and possibly jam. Even though it wasn't in the instructions, I though this was so obvious that I did it during initial installation. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376024#376024


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    Time: 02:13:22 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying)
    Maybe we that already have 500+ in our RV10s should leave the list. But you were the innovator in the owner generated mods? _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying) How about them Red Sox!!! On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com> wrote: It certainly does slow the build process but not as much as a permanent mount and an approriate gun sight for those pesky Cessnas in the pattern. "switchin to guns" -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:36 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) I know it is difficult for those in other cultures to comprehend, but the US does not require a license to own or carry a gun, unless you want to carry it concealed. While guns in recent years are registered when purchased from a dealer, there is no accounting for guns that existed from around 50 or more years ago, and no tracking of private sales of guns. We have this little artifact of history, that guns enabled our country to escape from a tyrannical (perhaps alleged) king. So a right was established in our constitution allowing us to own and bear arms. Which means that we can mount a gun rack in or outside our RV-10s if that is our desire. But such modifications slow down the build process. ;-) On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:13 AM, John MacCallum <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> wrote: > --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> > > I don't have a problem with people protecting themselves from wild > animals if they have a licence for the gun and a reason to have the > gun. If I was going bush in Alaska for days on end I would probably > want a gun as well! I would not live off the native wildlife as a > matter of choice but I can see where you may have too! > > John MacCallum > VH-DUU > RV 10 # Navigator much much href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronicp; the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== =========== get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 02:25:14 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm34077@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying)
    Just got the N number reservation for the RV9A in the mail today so will be an infrequent poster in the future. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 2:13 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying) Maybe we that already have 500+ in our RV10s should leave the list. But you were the innovator in the owner generated mods? _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Nonsense (WAS Airplane Building and Flying) How about them Red Sox!!! On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM, DLM <dlm34077@q.com> wrote: It certainly does slow the build process but not as much as a permanent mount and an approriate gun sight for those pesky Cessnas in the pattern. "switchin to guns" -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:36 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) I know it is difficult for those in other cultures to comprehend, but the US does not require a license to own or carry a gun, unless you want to carry it concealed. While guns in recent years are registered when purchased from a dealer, there is no accounting for guns that existed from around 50 or more years ago, and no tracking of private sales of guns. We have this little artifact of history, that guns enabled our country to escape from a tyrannical (perhaps alleged) king. So a right was established in our constitution allowing us to own and bear arms. Which means that we can mount a gun rack in or outside our RV-10s if that is our desire. But such modifications slow down the build process. ;-) On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:13 AM, John MacCallum <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> wrote: > --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> > > I don't have a problem with people protecting themselves from wild > animals if they have a licence for the gun and a reason to have the > gun. If I was going bush in Alaska for days on end I would probably > want a gun as well! I would not live off the native wildlife as a > matter of choice but I can see where you may have too! > > John MacCallum > VH-DUU > RV 10 # Navigator much much href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronicp; the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== =========== get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 02:39:23 PM PST US
    From: "John MacCallum" <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: Alaska (was bahamas)
    Yep we have idiots here as well, actually I'm beginning to think slightly more per capita than you guys. There is certainly no mistaking the contribution of the US in the Pacific and Europe, which being keenly interested in the history of both world wars, I always Point out to young people. In the US the raw stats show that violent crimes are split roughly even between assaults with and without weapons and if a weapon is used it usually involves a gun. If you look at countries that have non existent gun control the numbers go up dramatically. If you look at countries that have very tight gun control the Stats reflect a lot lower violent crime rate. Interestingly the USA's crime rate is around twice That of Australia and Australia has no reason to be proud either. As for culture I believe it is non existent here in Australia. Yep I agree about getting back to RV10s. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM Sent: Monday, 18 June 2012 11:00 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) A world without violence would be great but until that time I will "speak softly and carry a big stick". I prefer to wait for the trial facts in Florida as our media has an agenda. For example, they have virtually ignored the attack by a mob of Trayvons on a family at the Wisconsin State Fair before the media hype of the Florida incident and afterwards virtually ignored another similar mob attack on two of their own (reporters) in Virginia. Several other attacks have barely made any news here so would probably not even be reported in OZ. You won't see it in our media but Google the city of "de trois" sometime. Look at the pictures and determine whether you would go there armed or unarmed or at all. Lest you think I am one of the isolated Americans, I traveled widely in Europe and Asia and worked and lived for 16 years in the Middle East. But for the US this communication would probably be in German or Japanese. If you like, we can take the discussion off the list since this hardly touches our RV10s. IIRC your comment changed this thread from flying to Alaska.to our culture. fiy aman Allah _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John MacCallum Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:26 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) That's a fairly common statement from a lot of people. I have the same concern but the likely hood of it happening is very remote! Trayvon was 17 years old and obviously not real smart since he took a walk through a Gated community full of people that were concerned with holding onto their Worldly possessions and paranoid as well! Otherwise they would not have been living in a gated community in the first place. If someone jumps on you without identifying themselves to you, and whom is obviously not a police officer why would you not resist them? Also The autopsy report stated he was 5 feet, 11 inches and weighed 158 pounds. And I prefer to leave the bible out of things because it too often is used to justify illogical behavior. Cheers John MacCallum VH-DUU RV 10 # 41016 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:31 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) I am 68; too young to die and too old to survive a beating. I would not survive in a conflict with the Trayvons of the world (18, 6' 2" and a muscular 190 pounds). Therefore I have both training and permit to carry a weapon; I may lose my life in a confrontation but do not intend to give up willingly. I don't look for trouble and I believe "a soft answer turns away wrath" BUT if and when an officer asks "what are you afraid of?". "Not a damn thing." -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John MacCallum Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> Um I don't know where this is going but from an outsider looking in we here in Australia are always amazed to see the The willingness of people in the US to resort a gun to protect their rights. If you have a look a the stats for the rest of The world it puts the US on par with a lot of countries one would not normally associate the USA with? I don't believe that Australia can claim any moral higher ground either. I think we should all look to a country like Japan Where to use a gun in a crime will result in a min 1 to 10 year jail term and hand guns and any automatic guns are just not allowed. My 2 cents worth :) Cheers John MacCallum Builder #41016 VH-DUU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:53 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) Not RV related. Please delete if not interested. Interesting firearm fact: 2011 Germany 250,000 police officers / 81 Million Population German police shot their firearms a total of 85 times in 2011. 49 Warning shots, 36 with intent to hit suspect. 2012 Los Angeles NYPD fired 84 rounds at one suspect LAPD fired 90 rounds at one suspect. Robin Do Not Archive Links if interested: http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-police-fired -just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTjwcyvzqvg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/case-of-man-shot-at-90-times-o n-freeway-tragic-lapd-says.html <Bnbsp; Navigator Photoshare, and href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronicp; the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== =========== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 02:41:27 PM PST US
    From: "John MacCallum" <john.maccallum@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: Alaska (was bahamas)
    Yep those bloody poms are the cause of all of our problems! I reckon a ADEN Rotary canon would make a good mod if it was mounted on a pod and synchronised to the Prop. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:36 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Alaska (was bahamas) I know it is difficult for those in other cultures to comprehend, but the US does not require a license to own or carry a gun, unless you want to carry it concealed. While guns in recent years are registered when purchased from a dealer, there is no accounting for guns that existed from around 50 or more years ago, and no tracking of private sales of guns. We have this little artifact of history, that guns enabled our country to escape from a tyrannical (perhaps alleged) king. So a right was established in our constitution allowing us to own and bear arms. Which means that we can mount a gun rack in or outside our RV-10s if that is our desire. But such modifications slow down the build process. ;-) On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:13 AM, John MacCallum <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> wrote: > --> <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> > > I don't have a problem with people protecting themselves from wild > animals if they have a licence for the gun and a reason to have the > gun. If I was going bush in Alaska for days on end I would probably > want a gun as well! I would not live off the native wildlife as a > matter of choice but I can see where you may have too! > > John MacCallum > VH-DUU > RV 10 # 41016 > >


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    Time: 03:57:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results
    From: "jchang10" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
    Not sure why my first attempt didn't go thru. Trying again... In my case, i thought it was a nosewheel shimmy when it was a mainwheel shimmy. I did all the normal things to the nosewheel to fix the issue. Adding balance weights even affected the speed range of the shimmy which seemed to confirm it was a nosewheel issue. I finally got around to video-taping the undercarriage. To my surprise, i have a main wheel shimmy and not a nosewheel issue. It happens in a 5 knot speed range, so i can either accelerate or brake quickly thru the speed range to minimize the discomfort. http://youtu.be/lBi6RdOS2Cw This is the only video i have uploaded. It occurs around the 7:08 mark. Thus, now I have to go thru all the same steps to try and fix the issue on the mainwheel this time. Jae [quote="carl.froehlich(at)verizon"]Thanks Tim. I thought about the nose wheel aspect, but never had the issue in the 8A. Before I jack up the plane and do the plumb bob thing yet again, I'll get some more flight data and see what that tells me. Carl -------- #40533 RV-10 First flight 10/19/2011 Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376038#376038


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    Time: 04:10:13 PM PST US
    From: <lewgall@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results
    Hey Jae, Now that's an awesome video! I've gone over the shimmy at 7:08 several times (I'm sure you've replayed it much more) and it looks like the strut is stable but the pants shimmy? Just can't see it in the strut? Anyway, I enjoyed the video and will wait for the solution. Later, - Lew do not archive


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    Time: 07:59:12 PM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results
    Everyone needs to drill a 2nd hole through the front axle that is 30 degree s from the 1st hole.... that way you can tighten to within 30 degrees inste ad of only within 60 degrees.... doesn't weaken anything because the hole i s below most of the nut, and only for the cotter pin.=C2- Having only one hole, it almost=C2- never ends up where you want it.=0ADon McDonald=C2 -=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Jesse Saint <jesse@s aintaviation.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, June 18, 2 012 8:49 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test iation.com>=0A=0AMy experience is the same. It could be that aerodynamicall y the 26 lbs of force to pivot the nose wheel side to side is just the righ t amount to avoid a shimmy but keep the nose wheel in perfect trail while c ruising. In practice, I think it's almost impossible to get the 26 lbs requ ired, and certainly is impossible to keep it. I usually tighten to the flat (with the cotter pin hole lined up) that provides a fair amount of pivot d rag, but never measure the force any more. =0A=0AAlso, when I am trimming t he rudder, I trim a little, then tap on that pedal to see where the ball se ttles. =0A=0AI never pay attention to the position of my rudder trim tab. I t isn't big enough to cause a dangerous situation if it is way out of trim at takeoff. The same goes for my aileron trim, since neither of them have a position sensor, although I can see the aileron trim tab in flight and it usually is only less than 10% out of trail to keep things flying level. The elevator trim is definitely big enough to cause a problem if it's way out, so I always trim that to a little bit nose down of center for takeoff, the n I adjust for climb based on how I am loaded and how I need to climb for C HT's and Oil Temp.=0A=0AJesse Saint=0ASaint Aviation, Inc.=0Ajesse@saintavi ation.com=0AC: 352-427-0285=0AF: 815-377-3694=0A=0AOn Jun 18, 2012, at 9:30 m@myrv10.com>=0A> =0A> RE #4:=0A> "4.=C2- =C2- =C2- I=99m on my second round of mounting the wheel pants and leg fairings.=C2- They make a huge speed difference but they are a pain to get right.=C2- First flig ht today the ball was in the center but favoring the right side.=C2- Seco nd flight (no changes to the pants or fairings) the ball was in the center but favoring the left side.=C2- Go figure.=C2- With the pants and fairi ng off the ball is dead center.=C2- "=0A> =0A> I've found that a jab of t he rudder pedal one way or the other=0A> will often leave it settled in at a new trim point. I've also=0A> had happen to me, and others have as well, the nosewheel doesn't=0A> trail perfectly straight.=C2- Some of this will likely affect=0A> your ability to get the ball to center all of the time. =C2- I'm=0A> guessing that with the nosewheel tightened up well so that i t=0A> doesn't shimmy, it has some stiction that keeps it in trail=0A> at wh atever angle, so the stab of the rudder pedal may or may not=0A> shift the nosewheel to a new stiction point.=C2- At any rate, having=0A> rudder tri m makes it easy to trim out, but I definitely don't=0A> ALWAYS have the sam e neutral rudder trim position.=0A> =0A> Tim=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> On 6/17/201 2 6:11 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:=0A>> Just back from a run with the forward gear leg slot cover removed.=C2- I=0A>> ran the same test pattern as my earlier flight of the day to get=0A>> reasonable comparison data.=C2- OAT was warmer (80) on the second run=0A>> however.=C2- I have a stock Van =99s engine and Hartzell prop.=0A>> =0A>> Climb out (full throttle cl imb, 140kts, to 6500=99.=C2- CHTs 10-15 degrees=0A>> cooler with th e slot cover removed.=C2- With the cover on #6 at 430, then=0A>> #5 at 42 0 and the rest at 400 or below.=C2- With the cover off #6 hottest=0A>> at 420, #5 at 410, rest below 400.=0A>> =0A>> CHTs in level flight =93 not much difference, perhaps slightly cooler with=0A>> the cover off.=C2- CHTs range from 370 to 390.=0A>> =0A>> Oil temp =93 I have had the o il air butterfly door full open for climb,=0A>> and perhaps half shut in le vel flight to keep oil temp around 190 or=0A>> so.=C2- If anything I woul d say there is less air for the cooler with the=0A>> cover off =93 bu t no practical difference.=C2- I suspect this reflects a=0A>> reduce pres sure drop across the cooler with the cover off as the lower=0A>> cowl exit area has more air flow.=C2- I did not use the Van=99s oil mount - =0A>>=C2- I have the cooler mounted horizontally on the firewall.=0A>> =0A>> Speed.=C2- 6500=99, 23.5=9D, 2400 RPM ROP, TAS 184kts c over on, 181kts cover off.=0A>> =0A>> LOP run, 6500=99, 23.5=9D , 2350 RPM, TAS 168kts cover on (12.2gph), 170kts=0A>> cover off(12.5gph). =C2- I suspect this result reflects the slightly higher=0A>> fuel flow fo r the second data run.=0A>> =0A>> 11.5 hours on the 10 now.=C2- Here are a few notes for those getting ready=0A>> for first flight:=0A>> =0A>> 1.Tig hten the nose gear nut after the first couple of landings.=C2- I did=0A>> mine at 9 hours and it was way loose.=C2- The 9^th hour landing nose gea r=0A>> feedback (shimmy) was pronounced.=0A>> =0A>> 2.While there has been a lot of discussion on the list about greasing=0A>> the prop, recommend you at least do the =9Cafter the first hour=9D greasing=0A>> as di scussed in the Hartwell manual.=0A>> =0A>> 3.I have a GTN-650 and a PS Engi neering Audio panel.=C2- It turns out=0A>> Garmin has a software problem that screws up mic audio gain if you use=0A>> one of these panels.=C2- Th ere is a fix, but you have to go to a Garmin=0A>> dealer to get it (and the n it still does not work as good as it=0A>> should).=C2- I=99d stil l much rather have an updated GX-60 and a SL-30 combo=0A>> instead of this over priced box.=0A>> =0A>> 4.I=99m on my second round of mounting th e wheel pants and leg fairings.=0A>> They make a huge speed difference but they are a pain to get right.=0A>> First flight today the ball was in the c enter but favoring the right=0A>> side.=C2- Second flight (no changes to the pants or fairings) the ball was=0A>> in the center but favoring the lef t side.=C2- Go figure.=C2- With the pants=0A>> and fairing off the ball is dead center.=0A>> =0A>> 5.Rigging.=C2- It took six months of chasing my tail to get the rigging=0A>> right on the 8A (easier once I broke the co de).=C2- The 10 was dead on=0A>> right out of the box.=0A>> =0A>> 6.Eleva tor trim.=C2- Remember that half way in not neutral.=C2- Make sure you =0A>> know where neutral really is on the panel, start there and then figur e=0A>> out your setting you want for takeoff.=0A>> =0A>> 28.5 more hours an d then a long awaited western trip this fall.=0A>> =0A>> Carl=0A>> =0A>> *F rom:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com=0A>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-serv er@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Froehlich=0A>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 1 7, 2012 2:53 PM=0A>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com=0A>> *Subject:* RE: RV10 -List: Lower cowl gear leg slot=0A>> =0A>> Thanks.=0A>> =0A>> First 9 hours I had a plate installed.=C2- I do a few hours without it and=0A>> see if there is any difference.=0A>> =0A>> Carl=0A>> =0A>> *From:*owner-rv10-list -server@matronics.com=0A>> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>=0A >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *bob-tcw=0A> > *Sent:* Sunday, June 17, 2012 2:38 PM=0A>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>=0A>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot=0A>> =0A>> Carl,=C2- =C2- I left the nose gear leg openin g....open.=C2- =C2- Cooling has been fine=0A>> =0A>> Bob Newman=0A>> =0A>> N541RV=0A>> =0A>> 70hrs=0A>> =0A>> *From:*Carl Froehlich <mailto:carl .froehlich@verizon.net>=0A>> =0A>> *Sent:*Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:30 PM=0A >> =0A>> *To:*rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>=0A>> =0A>> *Subject:*RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot=0A>> =0A>> For you tha t have your planes flying, did you put a plate in on the=0A>> lower cowl to cover the gear leg slot forward of the gear leg or do you=0A>> just leave it open?=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Carl=0A>> =0A>> 9 hours =93 still tweaking the gear leg fairings=0A>> =0A>> *=C2- *=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A=0A_ -======================== ==C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- - 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    Time: 08:14:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results
    From: David Maib <dmaib@me.com>
    Mine turned out to be a right main gear shimmy as well. I identified it with a belly camera. I have not been able to stop it. Starts at about 14 or 15 knots gps groundspeed and is gone by about 17 or 18 knots. I have decided to live with it. David Maib 40559 RV-10 Transition Trainer New Smyrna Beach, FL 32169 On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:56 PM, jchang10 wrote: Not sure why my first attempt didn't go thru. Trying again... In my case, i thought it was a nosewheel shimmy when it was a mainwheel shimmy. I did all the normal things to the nosewheel to fix the issue. Adding balance weights even affected the speed range of the shimmy which seemed to confirm it was a nosewheel issue. I finally got around to video-taping the undercarriage. To my surprise, i have a main wheel shimmy and not a nosewheel issue. It happens in a 5 knot speed range, so i can either accelerate or brake quickly thru the speed range to minimize the discomfort. http://youtu.be/lBi6RdOS2Cw This is the only video i have uploaded. It occurs around the 7:08 mark. Thus, now I have to go thru all the same steps to try and fix the issue on the mainwheel this time. Jae [quote="carl.froehlich(at)verizon"]Thanks Tim. I thought about the nose wheel aspect, but never had the issue in the 8A. Before I jack up the plane and do the plumb bob thing yet again, I'll get some more flight data and see what that tells me. Carl -------- #40533 RV-10 First flight 10/19/2011 Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376038#376038


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    Time: 08:21:21 PM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results
    I have been doing the same as Jesse for the last couple of years. I have had it as tight as 45 lbs with no adverse ground steering issues. I also agree with Tim's comments concerning the nose wheel alignment. My wheel pants come on and off more than most because I usually remove them when I am doing transition training. Every time I put them back on, the rudder trim is a tad bit different. As Jesse notes, I trim the rudder and then give the pedal a little tap and see where the ball really settles. David Maib 40559 Transition Trainer New Smyrna Beach, FL On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:58 PM, Don McDonald wrote: Everyone needs to drill a 2nd hole through the front axle that is 30 degrees from the 1st hole.... that way you can tighten to within 30 degrees instead of only within 60 degrees.... doesn't weaken anything because the hole is below most of the nut, and only for the cotter pin. Having only one hole, it almost never ends up where you want it. Don McDonald From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:49 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot cover - test results My experience is the same. It could be that aerodynamically the 26 lbs of force to pivot the nose wheel side to side is just the right amount to avoid a shimmy but keep the nose wheel in perfect trail while cruising. In practice, I think it's almost impossible to get the 26 lbs required, and certainly is impossible to keep it. I usually tighten to the flat (with the cotter pin hole lined up) that provides a fair amount of pivot drag, but never measure the force any more. Also, when I am trimming the rudder, I trim a little, then tap on that pedal to see where the ball settles. I never pay attention to the position of my rudder trim tab. It isn't big enough to cause a dangerous situation if it is way out of trim at takeoff. The same goes for my aileron trim, since neither of them have a position sensor, although I can see the aileron trim tab in flight and it usually is only less than 10% out of trail to keep things flying level. The elevator trim is definitely big enough to cause a problem if it's way out, so I always trim that to a little bit nose down of center for takeoff, then I adjust for climb based on how I am loaded and how I need to climb for CHT's and Oil Temp. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > RE #4: > "4. I=92m on my second round of mounting the wheel pants and leg fairings. They make a huge speed difference but they are a pain to get right. First flight today the ball was in the center but favoring the right side. Second flight (no changes to the pants or fairings) the ball was in the center but favoring the left side. Go figure. With the pants and fairing off the ball is dead center. " > > I've found that a jab of the rudder pedal one way or the other > will often leave it settled in at a new trim point. I've also > had happen to me, and others have as well, the nosewheel doesn't > trail perfectly straight. Some of this will likely affect > your ability to get the ball to center all of the time. I'm > guessing that with the nosewheel tightened up well so that it > doesn't shimmy, it has some stiction that keeps it in trail > at whatever angle, so the stab of the rudder pedal may or may not > shift the nosewheel to a new stiction point. At any rate, having > rudder trim makes it easy to trim out, but I definitely don't > ALWAYS have the same neutral rudder trim position. > > Tim > > > > On 6/17/2012 6:11 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote: >> Just back from a run with the forward gear leg slot cover removed. I >> ran the same test pattern as my earlier flight of the day to get >> reasonable comparison data. OAT was warmer (80) on the second run >> however. I have a stock Van=92s engine and Hartzell prop. >> >> Climb out (full throttle climb, 140kts, to 6500=92. CHTs 10-15 degrees >> cooler with the slot cover removed. With the cover on #6 at 430, then >> #5 at 420 and the rest at 400 or below. With the cover off #6 hottest >> at 420, #5 at 410, rest below 400. >> >> CHTs in level flight ' not much difference, perhaps slightly cooler with >> the cover off. CHTs range from 370 to 390. >> >> Oil temp ' I have had the oil air butterfly door full open for climb, >> and perhaps half shut in level flight to keep oil temp around 190 or >> so. If anything I would say there is less air for the cooler with the >> cover off ' but no practical difference. I suspect this reflects a >> reduce pressure drop across the cooler with the cover off as the lower >> cowl exit area has more air flow. I did not use the Van=92s oil mount - >> I have the cooler mounted horizontally on the firewall. >> >> Speed. 6500=92, 23.5=94, 2400 RPM ROP, TAS 184kts cover on, 181kts cover off. >> >> LOP run, 6500=92, 23.5=94, 2350 RPM, TAS 168kts cover on (12.2gph), 170kts >> cover off(12.5gph). I suspect this result reflects the slightly higher >> fuel flow for the second data run. >> >> 11.5 hours on the 10 now. Here are a few notes for those getting ready >> for first flight: >> >> 1.Tighten the nose gear nut after the first couple of landings. I did >> mine at 9 hours and it was way loose. The 9^th hour landing nose gear >> feedback (shimmy) was pronounced. >> >> 2.While there has been a lot of discussion on the list about greasing >> the prop, recommend you at least do the =93after the first hour=94 greasing >> as discussed in the Hartwell manual. >> >> 3.I have a GTN-650 and a PS Engineering Audio panel. It turns out >> Garmin has a software problem that screws up mic audio gain if you use >> one of these panels. There is a fix, but you have to go to a Garmin >> dealer to get it (and then it still does not work as good as it >> should). I=92d still much rather have an updated GX-60 and a SL-30 combo >> instead of this over priced box. >> >> 4.I=92m on my second round of mounting the wheel pants and leg fairings. >> They make a huge speed difference but they are a pain to get right. >> First flight today the ball was in the center but favoring the right >> side. Second flight (no changes to the pants or fairings) the ball was >> in the center but favoring the left side. Go figure. With the pants >> and fairing off the ball is dead center. >> >> 5.Rigging. It took six months of chasing my tail to get the rigging >> right on the 8A (easier once I broke the code). The 10 was dead on >> right out of the box. >> >> 6.Elevator trim. Remember that half way in not neutral. Make sure you >> know where neutral really is on the panel, start there and then figure >> out your setting you want for takeoff. >> >> 28.5 more hours and then a long awaited western trip this fall. >> >> Carl >> >> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Froehlich >> *Sent:* Sunday, June 17, 2012 2:53 PM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot >> >> Thanks. >> >> First 9 hours I had a plate installed. I do a few hours without it and >> see if there is any difference. >> >> Carl >> >> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *bob-tcw >> *Sent:* Sunday, June 17, 2012 2:38 PM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot >> >> Carl, I left the nose gear leg opening....open. Cooling has been fine >> >> Bob Newman >> >> N541RV >> >> 70hrs >> >> *From:*Carl Froehlich <mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net> >> >> *Sent:*Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:30 PM >> >> *To:*rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> >> >> *Subject:*RV10-List: Lower cowl gear leg slot >> >> For you that have your planes flying, did you put a plate in on the >> lower cowl to cover the gear leg slot forward of the gear leg or do you >> just leave it open? >> >> >> Carl >> >> 9 hours ' still tweaking the gear leg fairings >> >> * * > > > > < --> http://forums.matronics tronics.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contri========= ======




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