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Thu 06/21/12


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:40 AM - Re: MGL equipment (Werner Schneider)
     2. 12:11 PM - Re: MGL equipment (Space Cadet)
     3. 12:32 PM - GX Pilot Software Upgrade (nukeflyboy)
     4. 02:07 PM - Re: GX Pilot Software Upgrade (Seano)
     5. 02:29 PM - Re: GX Pilot Software Upgrade (Robin Marks)
     6. 05:41 PM - Stick - Panel Interference (nukeflyboy)
     7. 06:25 PM - Re: Stick - Panel Interference (Bob Turner)
     8. 06:49 PM - Re: Re: Stick - Panel Interference (Carl Froehlich)
     9. 10:35 PM - Re: Stick - Panel Interference (Bill Watson)
    10. 11:30 PM - Re: bahamas (Bob Turner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:40:50 AM PST US
    From: "Werner Schneider" <glastar@gmx.net>
    Subject: Re: MGL equipment
    Linn, check with Lorenz Malstrm he has an MGL pannel. cheers Werner > Anyone have a flying RV-10 with MGL glass panels in it??? > Linn .... still building -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de


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    Time: 12:11:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: MGL equipment
    From: "Space Cadet" <Dwight@Drefs.net>
    I have an Odyssey G2, and V10, not a lot of time on it though... just 40 hours. Dwight Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376235#376235


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    Time: 12:32:41 PM PST US
    Subject: GX Pilot Software Upgrade
    From: "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net>
    I have been having some challenges with pitch oscillations in my G3X/GX Pilot integrated autopilot. In flight test initially I was having divergent pitch oscillations in cruise. It only took a bit of turbulence to get it started. Adjusting the VRT Activity from the factory setting of 3 to a new setting of 8 (range 0-36) seemed to solve that problem. Any higher than 8 and it gets twitchy. I have also had problems capturing a glide path. The nose pitches down too far then overcompensates by pitching up, again divergently. I called TruTrak today about it and spoke to Zack. After describing the symptoms he asked which software version I had - answer 2.49. He said that "there is a software revision that is relevant to this problem". The unit has to be sent back to them for this software revision and I will do this when I return from my Johnson Creek vacation. Turnaround is a couple days. This is just for your info and should be of interest to those of us with GX Pilot autopilots. Check your software version. Mine was bought 9/2011. -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376240#376240


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    Time: 02:07:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: GX Pilot Software Upgrade
    From: Seano <sean@braunandco.com>
    Interesting. I have the combo too and purchased mine before 9/2011. I really haven't seen it do the oscillations. I see a very slight dip when in a turn and losing the horizontal component of lift. It barely over compensates but quickly stabilizes. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2012, at 13:32, "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net> wrote: > > I have been having some challenges with pitch oscillations in my G3X/GX Pilot integrated autopilot. In flight test initially I was having divergent pitch oscillations in cruise. It only took a bit of turbulence to get it started. Adjusting the VRT Activity from the factory setting of 3 to a new setting of 8 (range 0-36) seemed to solve that problem. Any higher than 8 and it gets twitchy. > > I have also had problems capturing a glide path. The nose pitches down too far then overcompensates by pitching up, again divergently. I called TruTrak today about it and spoke to Zack. After describing the symptoms he asked which software version I had - answer 2.49. He said that "there is a software revision that is relevant to this problem". The unit has to be sent back to them for this software revision and I will do this when I return from my Johnson Creek vacation. Turnaround is a couple days. > > This is just for your info and should be of interest to those of us with GX Pilot autopilots. Check your software version. Mine was bought 9/2011. > > -------- > Dave Moore > RV-6 flying > RV-10 QB - flying > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376240#376240 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:29:04 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Re: GX Pilot Software Upgrade
    My GX is as Sean describes out of the box. My Sorcerer has required update(s) back at the factory. Also an amazing AP. Robin Sent from the new iPad On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:21 PM, "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com> wrote: > > Interesting. I have the combo too and purchased mine before 9/2011. I really haven't seen it do the oscillations. I see a very slight dip when in a turn and losing the horizontal component of lift. It barely over compensates but quickly stabilizes. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 21, 2012, at 13:32, "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net> wrote: > >> >> I have been having some challenges with pitch oscillations in my G3X/GX Pilot integrated autopilot. In flight test initially I was having divergent pitch oscillations in cruise. It only took a bit of turbulence to get it started. Adjusting the VRT Activity from the factory setting of 3 to a new setting of 8 (range 0-36) seemed to solve that problem. Any higher than 8 and it gets twitchy. >> >> I have also had problems capturing a glide path. The nose pitches down too far then overcompensates by pitching up, again divergently. I called TruTrak today about it and spoke to Zack. After describing the symptoms he asked which software version I had - answer 2.49. He said that "there is a software revision that is relevant to this problem". The unit has to be sent back to them for this software revision and I will do this when I return from my Johnson Creek vacation. Turnaround is a couple days. >> >> This is just for your info and should be of interest to those of us with GX Pilot autopilots. Check your software version. Mine was bought 9/2011. >> >> -------- >> Dave Moore >> RV-6 flying >> RV-10 QB - flying >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376240#376240 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 05:41:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Stick - Panel Interference
    From: "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net>
    I have been meaning to send this for a while but have been too busy in phase 1 testing. This is an old problem but slightly different spin. I have the infinity stick grips and they are known to have a problem with clearing the bottom of the panel. The fix is to cut the control sticks as short as possible. This gives a nominal clearance of about a half an inch between the top of the stick grip and the bottom of the panel - the bottom strip that usually holds circuit breakers. I was careful and mine cleared the panel. One of the last things to install are the control cables. Yes, they are too short. More interesting was the interference between the right stick and the mixture control. The right stick when moved full left could be hung up on the LEFT side of the mixture control. See the photo. This was unacceptable even though in flight it would be tough to get it there. My control cables are stock and in the design location. There are several ways to fix this but the one shown in the photo utilizes the stock cable. A slight modification to the support removed the interference. I actually like the fact that the mixture control is now below the throttle and prop. This minimizes inadvertently grabbing the mixture control instead of the prop. -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376266#376266 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/001_2_reduced_326.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/stick_interference_120.jpg


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    Time: 06:25:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stick - Panel Interference
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    Well, you're right, that would not be acceptable. Are you sure the right stick is vertical with the ailerons neutral? On mine the stick just barely touched the RIGHT side of the mixture knob, full over to the left. I adjusted the stick position (under the right seat) a bit, and now it doesn't touch. BTW, I found I could hang up the stick if I moved to a certain position in a certain way. The culprit was a bolt under the seat in the control mechanism. I installed it per plans and it could hang up. The fix was to reverse the direction of bolt. The head wasn't long enough to interfere with the head forward. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376272#376272


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    Time: 06:49:33 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Stick - Panel Interference
    On my plane I cut the sticks down to just barely enough to mount the Infinity Grip. I also replaced the control cable bracket with a more narrow one (but keep the same knob spacing). This provides just enough clearance. Both cabin heat, alternate air and oil cooler air controls are on the bottom panel apron. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Stick - Panel Interference Well, you're right, that would not be acceptable. Are you sure the right stick is vertical with the ailerons neutral? On mine the stick just barely touched the RIGHT side of the mixture knob, full over to the left. I adjusted the stick position (under the right seat) a bit, and now it doesn't touch. BTW, I found I could hang up the stick if I moved to a certain position in a certain way. The culprit was a bolt under the seat in the control mechanism. I installed it per plans and it could hang up. The fix was to reverse the direction of bolt. The head wasn't long enough to interfere with the head forward. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376272#376272


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    Time: 10:35:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stick - Panel Interference
    From: Bill Watson <mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Nice fix. For others encountering stick/panel interference, another approach is bending the stick in a press, i.e. increasing the curvature. Lots in the archives. Sent from my iPad On Jun 22, 2012, at 2:40 AM, "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net> wrote: > > I have been meaning to send this for a while but have been too busy in phase 1 testing. This is an old problem but slightly different spin. I have the infinity stick grips and they are known to have a problem with clearing the bottom of the panel. The fix is to cut the control sticks as short as possible. This gives a nominal clearance of about a half an inch between the top of the stick grip and the bottom of the panel - the bottom strip that usually holds circuit breakers. I was careful and mine cleared the panel. > > One of the last things to install are the control cables. Yes, they are too short. More interesting was the interference between the right stick and the mixture control. The right stick when moved full left could be hung up on the LEFT side of the mixture control. See the photo. This was unacceptable even though in flight it would be tough to get it there. My control cables are stock and in the design location. > > There are several ways to fix this but the one shown in the photo utilizes the stock cable. A slight modification to the support removed the interference. I actually like the fact that the mixture control is now below the throttle and prop. This minimizes inadvertently grabbing the mixture control instead of the prop. > > -------- > Dave Moore > RV-6 flying > RV-10 QB - flying > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376266#376266 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/001_2_reduced_326.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/stick_interference_120.jpg > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:30:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: bahamas
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    People who have gone out of the US: Did you get an FCC station license? For something like $160? Anyone ask to see it? -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376287#376287




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