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1. 06:12 AM - Re: Wing kit crate in a pickup? (Ed Kranz)
2. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: Skybolt Fasteners - Installation (William DeLacey)
3. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Skybolt Fasteners - Installation ()
4. 09:25 AM - Flying the US (Tim Olson)
5. 10:35 AM - Re: Flying the US (Ed Kranz)
6. 11:28 AM - Re: Flying the US (Robin Marks)
7. 01:47 PM - Re: Flying the US (Kelly McMullen)
8. 05:18 PM - Re: Flying the US (Don McDonald)
9. 05:36 PM - Re: Flying the US (Tim Olson)
10. 11:24 PM - Re: Flying the US (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | Re: Wing kit crate in a pickup? |
Thanks for all the info!
I was able to pick up my crates at the FedEx freight depot (instead of
being home from 1-5). We were able to slide the boxes right off the
forklift and into the back of the truck. One strap around the back of each
box to hold them in kept them very secure for the 30 minute drive home.
Now all I have to do is build them!
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| Subject: | Re: Skybolt Fasteners - Installation |
Lew,
I was the original inquirer.
The issue I am struggling with is using the "Solid Flange" installation using Skybolt.
I talked to Skybolt and was informed that using solid flange (Aluminum
strip) was a problem due to the angle at the top of the firewall (~15degrees).
I am working on a RV9A. I follow the RV10 list as most of the experienced builders
post there.
My concern is a using a modified cowl ( I bought a project) which may be too short.
I am exploring the possibility of using the AL strip to extend the cowl
by 1/2 to 3/4 inch. I will not receive my engine from Lyc for another month or
so.
Once I hang the engine the cowl length issue will be clearer.
Any advice or guidance would be appreciated.
Bill DeLacey
On Jun 20, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Lew Gallagher wrote:
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> I just had an email inquiring about my comment on installing the solid flange
around the firewall being easier than using the "ears" supplied with the new
skybolt kits.
>
> I briefly read it in my email screener, then inadvertently deleted it. So here's
hoping you get this as a general post.
>
> Yes, you just rivet it around the firewall, then when your cowl is fit, simply
measure where you want to put the skybolts and pilot drill through the cowl
and flange -- perfect fit.
>
> Originally I think everybody had to install their own flange (the kit was just
male/female fasteners,collars, retaining rings), some scalloped it out, others
didn't -- your preference for weight, easier to bend to fit if scalloped, etc.
See Tim's site for pictures, specs on the aluminum, where to order it. The
ears work OK, but personally, I don't see them as an improvement.
>
> I hope this addressed your inquiry, if not, send it again or post it here for
other feedback.
>
> Later, - Lew
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| Subject: | Re: Skybolt Fasteners - Installation |
Hey Bill,
Let me start with, I'm not familiar with the -9A, (~15 degrees), so here
goes for what it's worth.
The solid flange with scallop cut would be easy to bend the individual
scallops to whatever angle works.
Another suggestion about the "maybe too short cowl": several times I have
extended the aft edge of the cowl itself for guys who want the "Swiss watch"
fit, but had already cut it too short. I sand a shallow on the inner
surface of the edge at least 1/2 inch wide (think of the edge of sheetrock
where the joining tape will fill) so that you can glass in a strip of
fiberglass cloth that overlaps from the original cowl in the shallow to a
little beyond what you need on the new aft edge. Let it harden overnight
then come back with resin/cabosil to finish the outer surface flush. Sand
inner and outer surfaces flush so that you have your extension on the aft
edge with the glass cloth bonding the new edge to the original cowl. Done.
And do this before drilling for the skybolts.
Don't get impatient; mount the engine, prop, and spinner before doing any
of this since the cowl is fit from the spinner back.
Hope this helps.
Later, - Lew
-----Original Message-----
From: William DeLacey
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Skybolt Fasteners - Installation
Lew,
I was the original inquirer.
The issue I am struggling with is using the "Solid Flange" installation
using Skybolt. I talked to Skybolt and was informed that using solid flange
(Aluminum strip) was a problem due to the angle at the top of the firewall
(~15degrees).
I am working on a RV9A. I follow the RV10 list as most of the experienced
builders post there.
My concern is a using a modified cowl ( I bought a project) which may be too
short. I am exploring the possibility of using the AL strip to extend the
cowl by 1/2 to 3/4 inch. I will not receive my engine from Lyc for another
month or so.
Once I hang the engine the cowl length issue will be clearer.
Any advice or guidance would be appreciated.
Bill DeLacey
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Yesterday Ed Hayden and I finished the last Northbound leg
of our trip, arriving in Fairbanks, AK! So far this has been
a really great trip, and some of the flying has been pretty
challenging in terms of weather conditions and such, with heavy
use of the freedom allowed by flying in the class G airspace
under 1200' being the only way we could have made it here
thus far. It's been a real adventure!
Although I am sad to have to cheat on claiming Hawaii, landing
in Northway, AK did complete my flying and landing in all of the
50 US states (I rented a twin and brought the keys from N104CD to
fly Hawaii), and Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas. The RV-10
has brought us to all of these places in more comfort and
fun than I ever would have imagined when I did my first flight
in it nearly 6.5 years ago. Van's put together a great kit,
that is for sure. The $3000 or $4000 or whatever it is that we
paid for the seats has proven valuable in comfort, as I've
never spent so many traveling hours in a seat as comfortable as
these by Oregon Aero.
We'll have a good trip report when I get back, of course, but I'm
still looking forward to many more stops and many more days with
lots more great photos. So far from what I see, Alaska
probably not only rivals, but beats Hawaii for scenic beauty, and
I didn't know if that was possible.
It's been a heck of a ride, but with 50 states done, I now have to
contemplate if I want to give it a shot at doing the North Atlantic
route to Europe some day.... :)
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the US |
Congrats, Tim!
Looking forward to the trip write-up. All the past trip reports have been
invaluable ammo in getting the wife on board with this project.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
> Yesterday Ed Hayden and I finished the last Northbound leg
> of our trip, arriving in Fairbanks, AK! So far this has been
> a really great trip, and some of the flying has been pretty
> challenging in terms of weather conditions and such, with heavy
> use of the freedom allowed by flying in the class G airspace
> under 1200' being the only way we could have made it here
> thus far. It's been a real adventure!
>
> Although I am sad to have to cheat on claiming Hawaii, landing
> in Northway, AK did complete my flying and landing in all of the
> 50 US states (I rented a twin and brought the keys from N104CD to
> fly Hawaii), and Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas. The RV-10
> has brought us to all of these places in more comfort and
> fun than I ever would have imagined when I did my first flight
> in it nearly 6.5 years ago. Van's put together a great kit,
> that is for sure. The $3000 or $4000 or whatever it is that we
> paid for the seats has proven valuable in comfort, as I've
> never spent so many traveling hours in a seat as comfortable as
> these by Oregon Aero.
>
> We'll have a good trip report when I get back, of course, but I'm
> still looking forward to many more stops and many more days with
> lots more great photos. So far from what I see, Alaska
> probably not only rivals, but beats Hawaii for scenic beauty, and
> I didn't know if that was possible.
>
> It's been a heck of a ride, but with 50 states done, I now have to
> contemplate if I want to give it a shot at doing the North Atlantic
> route to Europe some day.... :)
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
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That looks amazing! And group flying looks like a lot of fun. I can't wait to see
more photos.
The RV Flight Evaluation Board is still discussing your Hawaiian qualification
flight. If disqualified it's a small penalty of having to re-visit Rhode Island.
I need to mention that the Classic Aero Design seats are equally expensive and
comfortable.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:25 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Flying the US
Yesterday Ed Hayden and I finished the last Northbound leg of our trip, arriving
in Fairbanks, AK! So far this has been a really great trip, and some of the
flying has been pretty challenging in terms of weather conditions and such, with
heavy use of the freedom allowed by flying in the class G airspace under 1200'
being the only way we could have made it here thus far. It's been a real
adventure!
Although I am sad to have to cheat on claiming Hawaii, landing in Northway, AK
did complete my flying and landing in all of the
50 US states (I rented a twin and brought the keys from N104CD to fly Hawaii),
and Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas. The RV-10 has brought us to all of these
places in more comfort and fun than I ever would have imagined when I did my
first flight in it nearly 6.5 years ago. Van's put together a great kit, that
is for sure. The $3000 or $4000 or whatever it is that we paid for the seats
has proven valuable in comfort, as I've never spent so many traveling hours in
a seat as comfortable as these by Oregon Aero.
We'll have a good trip report when I get back, of course, but I'm still looking
forward to many more stops and many more days with lots more great photos. So
far from what I see, Alaska probably not only rivals, but beats Hawaii for scenic
beauty, and I didn't know if that was possible.
It's been a heck of a ride, but with 50 states done, I now have to contemplate
if I want to give it a shot at doing the North Atlantic route to Europe some day....
:)
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the US |
Glad you made it there fine. If you have a chance, Bettles is a nice day
trip for your North of the Arctic Circle certificate, or if time
constrained, Ft. Yukon is closer but still just N of the Arctic Circle.
Also, if you have the chance, enjoy the aircraft campground at the NE
corner of the Fairbanks airport. It is an unadvertised gem.
On 6/27/2012 10:34 AM, Ed Kranz wrote:
> Congrats, Tim!
>
> Looking forward to the trip write-up. All the past trip reports have
> been invaluable ammo in getting the wife on board with this project.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote:
>
> Yesterday Ed Hayden and I finished the last Northbound leg
> of our trip, arriving in Fairbanks, AK! So far this has been
> a really great trip, and some of the flying has been pretty
> challenging in terms of weather conditions and such, with heavy
> use of the freedom allowed by flying in the class G airspace
> under 1200' being the only way we could have made it here
> thus far. It's been a real adventure!
>
> Although I am sad to have to cheat on claiming Hawaii, landing
> in Northway, AK did complete my flying and landing in all of the
> 50 US states (I rented a twin and brought the keys from N104CD to
> fly Hawaii), and Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas. The RV-10
> has brought us to all of these places in more comfort and
> fun than I ever would have imagined when I did my first flight
> in it nearly 6.5 years ago. Van's put together a great kit,
> that is for sure. The $3000 or $4000 or whatever it is that we
> paid for the seats has proven valuable in comfort, as I've
> never spent so many traveling hours in a seat as comfortable as
> these by Oregon Aero.
>
> We'll have a good trip report when I get back, of course, but I'm
> still looking forward to many more stops and many more days with
> lots more great photos. So far from what I see, Alaska
> probably not only rivals, but beats Hawaii for scenic beauty, and
> I didn't know if that was possible.
>
> It's been a heck of a ride, but with 50 states done, I now have to
> contemplate if I want to give it a shot at doing the North Atlantic
> route to Europe some day.... :)
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the US |
Tim, did you get a chance to meet up with our neighbor, the Wilsons, Steve
and Barb... in the Swift.=0AWe are currently in Steamboat Springs.... and F
riday will be joined by Dave and Windy Moore in their newly commisioned RV1
0... So that gives us 3 RV10's and one RV7.=0ADon McDonald=0A =0A=0A_______
_________________________=0A From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>=0ATo: RV10 <R
V10-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:25 AM=0ASubjec
t: RV10-List: Flying the US=0A =0AYesterday Ed Hayden and I finished the l
ast Northbound leg=0Aof our trip, arriving in Fairbanks, AK!- So far this
has been=0Aa really great trip, and some of the flying has been pretty=0Ac
hallenging in terms of weather conditions and such, with heavy=0Ause of the
freedom allowed by flying in the class G airspace=0Aunder 1200' being the
only way we could have made it here=0Athus far. It's been a real adventure!
=0A=0AAlthough I am sad to have to cheat on claiming Hawaii, landing=0Ain N
orthway, AK did complete my flying and landing in all of the=0A50 US states
(I rented a twin and brought the keys from N104CD to=0Afly Hawaii), and Ca
nada, Mexico, and the Bahamas.- The RV-10=0Ahas brought us to all of thes
e places in more comfort and=0Afun than I ever would have imagined when I d
id my first flight=0Ain it nearly 6.5 years ago.- Van's put together a gr
eat kit,=0Athat is for sure.- The $3000 or $4000 or whatever it is that w
e=0Apaid for the seats has proven valuable in comfort, as I've=0Anever spen
t so many traveling hours in a seat as comfortable as=0Athese by Oregon Aer
o.=0A=0AWe'll have a good trip report when I get back, of course, but I'm
=0Astill looking forward to many more stops and many more days with=0Alots
more great photos.- So far from what I see, Alaska=0Aprobably not only ri
vals, but beats Hawaii for scenic beauty, and=0AI didn't know if that was p
ossible.=0A=0AIt's been a heck of a ride, but with 50 states done, I now ha
ve to=0Acontemplate if I want to give it a shot at doing the North Atlantic
=0Aroute to Europe some day.... :)=0A=0A-- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD=0Ado no
t archive
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the US |
I sure did, they're great folks! The swift group seems to be having a great
time.
They're fun to fly with, and great to hang with.
Tim
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On Jun 27, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote
:
> Tim, did you get a chance to meet up with our neighbor, the Wilsons, Steve
and Barb... in the Swift.
> We are currently in Steamboat Springs.... and Friday will be joined by Dav
e and Windy Moore in their newly commisioned RV10... So that gives us 3 RV10
's and one RV7.
> Don McDonald
>
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
> To: RV10 <RV10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:25 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Flying the US
>
> Yesterday Ed Hayden and I finished the last Northbound leg
> of our trip, arriving in Fairbanks, AK! So far this has been
> a really great trip, and some of the flying has been pretty
> challenging in terms of weather conditions and such, with heavy
> use of the freedom allowed by flying in the class G airspace
> under 1200' being the only way we could have made it here
> thus far. It's been a real adventure!
>
> Although I am sad to have to cheat on claiming Hawaii, landing
> in Northway, AK did complete my flying and landing in all of the
> 50 US states (I rented a twin and brought the keys from N104CD to
> fly Hawaii), and Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas. The RV-10
> has brought us to all of these places in more comfort and
> fun than I ever would have imagined when I did my first flight
> in it nearly 6.5 years ago. Van's put together a great kit,
> that is for sure. The $3000 or $4000 or whatever it is that we
> paid for the seats has proven valuable in comfort, as I've
> never spent so many traveling hours in a seat as comfortable as
> these by Oregon Aero.
>
> We'll have a good trip report when I get back, of course, but I'm
> still looking forward to many more stops and many more days with
> lots more great photos. So far from what I see, Alaska
> probably not only rivals, but beats Hawaii for scenic beauty, and
> I didn't know if that was possible.
>
> It's been a heck of a ride, but with 50 states done, I now have to
> contemplate if I want to give it a shot at doing the North Atlantic
> route to Europe some day.... :)
>
> -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the US |
:) No problem, hopefully it will qualify. If it weren't for the fact
that all of these trips were done WITH THE KIDS, I'd actually consider
doing a Hawaii flight, but once you load kids and wife and my fatness
into an RV-10, it would just never work...so I had to settle for
bringing the key along on that one. I did spend a bunch of cash
on the twin rental...probably plenty enough to buy the fuel to
get to Hawaii though, so that should help me qualify. :)
Also, if I have to see Rhode Island again, that's ok, just
don't send me to Indiana... (sorry for you folks who live there,
but there are probably 48 or 49 states ahead of you for
awesome scenery)
Thanks for the off-line replies I've received too. I can't keep
up with as many emails right now, but I appreciate you all.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 6/27/2012 10:27 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> That looks amazing! And group flying looks like a lot of fun. I can't wait to
see more photos.
> The RV Flight Evaluation Board is still discussing your Hawaiian qualification
flight. If disqualified it's a small penalty of having to re-visit Rhode Island.
> I need to mention that the Classic Aero Design seats are equally expensive and
comfortable.
>
> Robin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:25 AM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: Flying the US
>
> Yesterday Ed Hayden and I finished the last Northbound leg of our trip, arriving
in Fairbanks, AK! So far this has been a really great trip, and some of the
flying has been pretty challenging in terms of weather conditions and such,
with heavy use of the freedom allowed by flying in the class G airspace under
1200' being the only way we could have made it here thus far. It's been a real
adventure!
>
> Although I am sad to have to cheat on claiming Hawaii, landing in Northway, AK
did complete my flying and landing in all of the
> 50 US states (I rented a twin and brought the keys from N104CD to fly Hawaii),
and Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas. The RV-10 has brought us to all of these
places in more comfort and fun than I ever would have imagined when I did my
first flight in it nearly 6.5 years ago. Van's put together a great kit, that
is for sure. The $3000 or $4000 or whatever it is that we paid for the seats
has proven valuable in comfort, as I've never spent so many traveling hours
in a seat as comfortable as these by Oregon Aero.
>
> We'll have a good trip report when I get back, of course, but I'm still looking
forward to many more stops and many more days with lots more great photos.
So far from what I see, Alaska probably not only rivals, but beats Hawaii for
scenic beauty, and I didn't know if that was possible.
>
> It's been a heck of a ride, but with 50 states done, I now have to contemplate
if I want to give it a shot at doing the North Atlantic route to Europe some
day.... :)
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
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