---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/11/12: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:24 AM - Re: OSH 2012 RV-10 Group Camping (bcondrey) 2. 02:58 PM - Re: broken down in Eugene Oregon (John Jessen) 3. 03:04 PM - Re: broken down in Eugene Oregon (pilotdds) 4. 04:57 PM - Re: broken down in Eugene Oregon (John Jessen) 5. 05:50 PM - Re: Flap Positioner (tsts4) 6. 06:41 PM - Re: Re: Flap Positioner (Rick Lark) 7. 07:04 PM - Re: Flap Positioner (Bob Turner) 8. 08:31 PM - Re: broken down in Eugene Oregon (John Jessen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:48 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: OSH 2012 RV-10 Group Camping From: "bcondrey" Ok folks, last chance. We're physically leaving to head up to OSH this weekend and I need to take a hardcopy of my list of sites with me to make it easier on the folks working the registration stuff. I've gotten a lot of emails and phone calls offline about camping with us, getting a site, etc. The actual number of people that I've received EAA ticket numbers (for the sites) from however is far less. If you've already gotten your site but not sent me an email with the confirmation ticket number, please take a minute and do it now. If you're procrastinating and just haven't gotten your site registered yet, time is running out! Email me direct at condreyb (at) gmail (dot) com if you've got questions not answered by the first post or the FAQs pointed to in the link (in the first post). Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378011#378011 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:51 PM PST US From: John Jessen Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon Do you still need a place in Eugene? ... by phone On Jul 10, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Consider that the only thing high oil pressure will hurt is seals, possibility of leaks. Cessna in fact runs around 110 psi in their IO-360 engines in 172s these days, with nothing different about the engine other than the adjustment of oil pressure relief. > > On 7/10/2012 2:59 PM, pilotdds wrote: >> the owners manual from the Cherokee shows 99 as red line-but the concern is the progressive gradual increase in oil pressure during flight it will reach 99 which is the max the gauge will read.This is a significant change from the previous 350 hours.It fluctuates 3-4 pounds as it gradualy increase. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kelly McMullen >> To: rv10-list >> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 2:38 pm >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon >> >> Hmm, one email stripped the image, one didn't. Normal redline should be 95, 115 during start and warmup, and minimum 55, except 25 for idling. >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Kelly McMullen > wrote: >> >> What do you have as redline?? From the operators manual: >> >> Sounds like your oil pressure is normal, unless it is fluctuating >> wildly. Not the max for startup and warmup. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:14 PM, pilotdds > > wrote: >> >> Anyone have any contacts for hanger space at KEUG.I have a >> fluctuating oil pressure problem and looks like the plane is >> going to be here at least a month .Thought I had the problem >> resolved but it returned.Oil pressure increases during flight >> to redline -it is not likely a gauge issue as i have compared >> the electronic gauge with a mechanical and they match.Any one >> have a similar experience. Engine is a narrow deck 540 >> converted to an io-540.I overhauled it myself 350+ hours ago >> with new cylinders ,cam, lifters.I replaced the cage type oil >> pressure regulator with an eci adjustable.My plan is to remove >> oil filter adapter (b&C)and clean gallery to sump and remove >> and clean ball seat and springs on pressure regulator.If >> problem doesnt resolve it means engine tear down.One other >> symptom that is that pressure always ran about 8 pounds high >> for the first 5 minutes of flight the would normalize,I have >> been advised this is in fact not normal.Any other thoughts >> from the engine gurus-thanks Jim >> >> * >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> >> >> * >> >> get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> p://forums.matronics.com >> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> * >> >> >> * > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon From: pilotdds yes probably 2 mos -----Original Message----- From: John Jessen Sent: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 2:59 pm Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon Do you still need a place in Eugene? ... by phone On Jul 10, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: Consider that the only thing high oil pressure will hurt is seals, possibi lity f leaks. Cessna in fact runs around 110 psi in their IO-360 engines in 172s hese days, with nothing different about the engine other than the adjustmen t of il pressure relief. On 7/10/2012 2:59 PM, pilotdds wrote: > the owners manual from the Cherokee shows 99 as red line-but the concern is he progressive gradual increase in oil pressure during flight it will reach 99 hich is the max the gauge will read.This is a significant change from the revious 350 hours.It fluctuates 3-4 pounds as it gradualy increase. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelly McMullen > To: rv10-list > Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 2:38 pm > Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon > > Hmm, one email stripped the image, one didn't. Normal redline should be 9 5, 15 during start and warmup, and minimum 55, except 25 for idling. > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Kelly McMullen > wrote: > > What do you have as redline?? From the operators manual: > > Sounds like your oil pressure is normal, unless it is fluctuating > wildly. Not the max for startup and warmup. > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:14 PM, pilotdds > wrote: > > Anyone have any contacts for hanger space at KEUG.I have a > fluctuating oil pressure problem and looks like the plane is > going to be here at least a month .Thought I had the problem > resolved but it returned.Oil pressure increases during flight > to redline -it is not likely a gauge issue as i have compared > the electronic gauge with a mechanical and they match.Any one > have a similar experience. Engine is a narrow deck 540 > converted to an io-540.I overhauled it myself 350+ hours ago > with new cylinders ,cam, lifters.I replaced the cage type oil > pressure regulator with an eci adjustable.My plan is to remove > oil filter adapter (b&C)and clean gallery to sump and remove > and clean ball seat and springs on pressure regulator.If > problem doesnt resolve it means engine tear down.One other > symptom that is that pressure always ran about 8 pounds high > for the first 5 minutes of flight the would normalize,I have > been advised this is in fact not normal.Any other thoughts > from the engine gurus-thanks Jim > > * > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > > * > > get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > p://forums.matronics.com > blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > * > > > * ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com -======================== -= - The RV10-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:10 PM PST US From: John Jessen Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon John C, do you know of anyone? I'll also make some enquiries. ... by phone On Jul 11, 2012, at 3:03 PM, pilotdds wrote: > yes probably 2 mos > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Jessen > To: rv10-list > Sent: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 2:59 pm > Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon > > > Do you still need a place in Eugene? > > ... by phone > > On Jul 10, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > > > > Consider that the only thing high oil pressure will hurt is seals, possi bility > of leaks. Cessna in fact runs around 110 psi in their IO-360 engines in 17 2s > these days, with nothing different about the engine other than the adjustm ent of > oil pressure relief. > > > > On 7/10/2012 2:59 PM, pilotdds wrote: > >> the owners manual from the Cherokee shows 99 as red line-but the concer n is > the progressive gradual increase in oil pressure during flight it will rea ch 99 > which is the max the gauge will read.This is a significant change from the > previous 350 hours.It fluctuates 3-4 pounds as it gradualy increase. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Kelly McMullen > >> To: rv10-list > >> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 2:38 pm > >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon > >> > >> Hmm, one email stripped the image, one didn't. Normal redline should be 95, > 115 during start and warmup, and minimum 55, except 25 for idling. > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Kelly McMullen > wrote: > >> > >> What do you have as redline?? =46rom the operators manual: > >> > >> Sounds like your oil pressure is normal, unless it is fluctuating > >> wildly. Not the max for startup and warmup. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:14 PM, pilotdds >> > wrote: > >> > >> Anyone have any contacts for hanger space at KEUG.I have a > >> fluctuating oil pressure problem and looks like the plane is > >> going to be here at least a month .Thought I had the problem > >> resolved but it returned.Oil pressure increases during flight > >> to redline -it is not likely a gauge issue as i have compared > >> the electronic gauge with a mechanical and they match.Any one > >> have a similar experience. Engine is a narrow deck 540 > >> converted to an io-540.I overhauled it myself 350+ hours ago > >> with new cylinders ,cam, lifters.I replaced the cage type oil > >> pressure regulator with an eci adjustable.My plan is to remove > >> oil filter adapter (b&C)and clean gallery to sump and remove > >> and clean ball seat and springs on pressure regulator.If > >> problem doesnt resolve it means engine tear down.One other > >> symptom that is that pressure always ran about 8 pounds high > >> for the first 5 minutes of flight the would normalize,I have > >> been advised this is in fact not normal.Any other thoughts > >> from the engine gurus-thanks Jim > >> > >> * > >> > >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >> tp://forums.matronics.com > >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> > >> * > >> > >> > >> > >> * > >> > >> get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >> p://forums.matronics.com > >> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> > >> * > >> * > >> > >> > >> * > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > p://forums.matronics.com > blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:45 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flap Positioner From: "tsts4" That's a great solution! Just so I understand the geometry and how the Pos senor moves with the flap torque tube, in the pics posted in this thread are the flaps up? IOW full retraction of the sensor's arm indicates flaps up while full extension of the arm would indicate flaps fully extended. -------- Todd Stovall 728TT (reserved) RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378052#378052 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Flap Positioner From: Rick Lark Todd, as I see it, the Ray Allen has a strictly linear motion, but because there are 2 pivot points (hinge and attachment to the adele clamp), as the sensor retracts, then yes the flaps are up. Having said that you might be able to position the sensor/clamp else where and get just the opposite indications. I think it will sort itself out with all the componets "in hand". Hopefully someone who has already done this will confirm. Rick #40956 On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:50 PM, tsts4 wrote: > > That's a great solution! Just so I understand the geometry and how the > Pos senor moves with the flap torque tube, in the pics posted in this > thread are the flaps up? IOW full retraction of the sensor's arm indicates > flaps up while full extension of the arm would indicate flaps fully > extended. > > -------- > Todd Stovall > 728TT (reserved) > RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse > www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378052#378052 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:49 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flap Positioner From: "Bob Turner" I'm doing this from memory but I think you've got it backwards. Photos show full flaps, with sensor arm fully retracted. As the flaps retract the arm moves aft as well as down. As flaps approach fully retracted, the sensor arm is moving down and not fore or aft, maximizing its motion relative to the angular rotation of the flap torque tube. Fully extended sensor arm is flaps up. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378060#378060 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:08 PM PST US From: John Jessen Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon I've put out some feelers. In the meantime, maybe contact Synergy Air, an RV build assist outfit located in Eugene. They might know someone with availab le space. Their website is at http://synergyair.com/contact-us/ And phone number is: Phone Number: (541) 913-0610 ... by phone On Jul 11, 2012, at 3:03 PM, pilotdds wrote: > yes probably 2 mos > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Jessen > To: rv10-list > Sent: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 2:59 pm > Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon > > > Do you still need a place in Eugene? > > ... by phone > > On Jul 10, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > > > > Consider that the only thing high oil pressure will hurt is seals, possi bility > of leaks. Cessna in fact runs around 110 psi in their IO-360 engines in 17 2s > these days, with nothing different about the engine other than the adjustm ent of > oil pressure relief. > > > > On 7/10/2012 2:59 PM, pilotdds wrote: > >> the owners manual from the Cherokee shows 99 as red line-but the concer n is > the progressive gradual increase in oil pressure during flight it will rea ch 99 > which is the max the gauge will read.This is a significant change from the > previous 350 hours.It fluctuates 3-4 pounds as it gradualy increase. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Kelly McMullen > >> To: rv10-list > >> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 2:38 pm > >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: broken down in Eugene Oregon > >> > >> Hmm, one email stripped the image, one didn't. Normal redline should be 95, > 115 during start and warmup, and minimum 55, except 25 for idling. > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Kelly McMullen > wrote: > >> > >> What do you have as redline?? =46rom the operators manual: > >> > >> Sounds like your oil pressure is normal, unless it is fluctuating > >> wildly. Not the max for startup and warmup. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:14 PM, pilotdds >> > wrote: > >> > >> Anyone have any contacts for hanger space at KEUG.I have a > >> fluctuating oil pressure problem and looks like the plane is > >> going to be here at least a month .Thought I had the problem > >> resolved but it returned.Oil pressure increases during flight > >> to redline -it is not likely a gauge issue as i have compared > >> the electronic gauge with a mechanical and they match.Any one > >> have a similar experience. Engine is a narrow deck 540 > >> converted to an io-540.I overhauled it myself 350+ hours ago > >> with new cylinders ,cam, lifters.I replaced the cage type oil > >> pressure regulator with an eci adjustable.My plan is to remove > >> oil filter adapter (b&C)and clean gallery to sump and remove > >> and clean ball seat and springs on pressure regulator.If > >> problem doesnt resolve it means engine tear down.One other > >> symptom that is that pressure always ran about 8 pounds high > >> for the first 5 minutes of flight the would normalize,I have > >> been advised this is in fact not normal.Any other thoughts > >> from the engine gurus-thanks Jim > >> > >> * > >> > >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >> tp://forums.matronics.com > >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> > >> * > >> > >> > >> > >> * > >> > >> get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >> p://forums.matronics.com > >> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> > >> * > >> * > >> > >> > >> * > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > p://forums.matronics.com > blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.