Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:02 AM - flap positioning (Rick Lark)
2. 05:42 AM - Re: flap positioning (Rene)
3. 03:15 PM - Urgent: EAA Members - Action! (Phillip Perry)
4. 05:31 PM - Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! (Ed Kranz)
5. 06:06 PM - Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! (Phillip Perry)
6. 06:23 PM - OSH12 RV10 Pot Luck Dinner (Ed Kranz)
7. 06:32 PM - Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! (Jack Phillips)
8. 06:47 PM - Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! (Phillip Perry)
9. 07:28 PM - Re: OSH12 RV10 Pot Luck Dinner (Bob's Gmail)
10. 08:23 PM - Re: OSH12 RV10 Pot Luck Dinner (Ed Kranz)
11. 08:40 PM - Re: OSH12 RV10 Pot Luck Dinner (Phillip Perry)
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| Subject: | flap positioning |
Guys
A question for those of you who have the Trutrack auto trim box. When
you select flaps to a position other than the reflex position, does the
auto trim adjust pitch trim as the flaps deploy?
Also is it standard practise to have a on-off switch wired to the auto
trim box?
I've been looking at the "Aircraft Extra's" flap positioning system, but
since I intend to also use the Vertical Power VP-X Pro, I think the
system is basically redundant.
Thx,
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | flap positioning |
1. I don't think I have ever moved the flaps when the autopilot was
engaged, so really cannot answer. But see no reason why it would not work
that way.
2. I put my autotrim in after my initial install and have it powered
off the autopilot. I have a breaker switch powering the autopilot and thus
I have a switch that can easily be hit to disconnect (turn off) the
autopilot if I have some type of runaway.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: flap positioning
Guys
A question for those of you who have the Trutrack auto trim box. When you
select flaps to a position other than the reflex position, does the auto
trim adjust pitch trim as the flaps deploy?
Also is it standard practise to have a on-off switch wired to the auto trim
box?
I've been looking at the "Aircraft Extra's" flap positioning system, but
since I intend to also use the Vertical Power VP-X Pro, I think the system
is basically redundant.
Thx,
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | Urgent: EAA Members - Action! |
Hi Everyone,
If many of you follow =VAF=, you're probably aware that there is a campaign
within the EAA Membership community to participate in the upcoming election
of the EAA Board of Directors. We figured that instead of just
complaining, we should actually participate in the democratic elections.
This simply idea led to more than 1 month of stone walling from the EAA.
Still to this day, they have not provided a simple document that allows
their members to participate in the election. So we copied their language
that assigns the proxy rights to Rod Hightower and changed the name on it
to reflect me. The EAA has admitted that this is a document that they
can't turn down at the elections in a few weeks.
In the past there were 3 choices for EAA members to participate in the
election:
1) They could choose not to participate.
2) They could show up in person to cast their vote at the annual business
meeting.
3) They could assign their vote to Rod Hightower. (This is a check box on
your annual renewal)
Long story short, the elections would look like 13 votes for some members
and 16,000 votes for those that Hightower wanted. So they ended up being
appointments and not elections by the members.
I am receiving proxy forms from all over the globe and if you are
frustrated with the EAA, I would appreciate it if you would do that same
thing. The form can be found at this link.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26343935/EAA%20Member%20Proxy%20Statement.pdf
You can send me a scanned copy or the original to:
Phillip W. Perry
C/O David Carr
1100 W Monroe St
Austin, TX 78704
Here are the votes we will be placing and the justification for selecting
them:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=678549&postcount=68
Today the EAA retaliated against their members and sent out a link asking
them to assign proxy votes to Rod Hightower. Please don't give total
control of EAA to the current membership and choose to put control of the
EAA back in the hands of the membership. Here's some details on that
message:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=679285
Please don't assign your proxy to the EAA Leadership, and if you feel
compelled I would be honored to carry your proxy vote forward at the
business meeting at AirVenture. This is the first time (that I'm aware of)
in the history of EAA that the members have found a way to legitimately
participate.
We need to get this word out to everyone who supports the effort ASAP. So
if you agree, please highlight this proxy effort and share the message on
every message board you can before some unknowing soul gives his vote to
Rod Hightower and his buddies.
We are going to be continuing this effort going into 2013 too and can use
your support and even you active participation.
Thanks,
Phil Perry
RV-10 #40750
EAA Lifetime Member
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! |
Phil,
Thanks for taking this up for us.
I'll be handing my proxy form in at OSH. You should also mention that there
are places like the Cleaveland Tools booth and people at the 10HQ that will
be drop off points for the forms as an alternative to snail mailing them
in. If this has changed since the last I read the thread over at VAF,
I apologize!
Ed
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> If many of you follow =VAF=, you're probably aware that there is a
> campaign within the EAA Membership community to participate in the upcoming
> election of the EAA Board of Directors. We figured that instead of just
> complaining, we should actually participate in the democratic elections.
>
> This simply idea led to more than 1 month of stone walling from the EAA.
> Still to this day, they have not provided a simple document that allows
> their members to participate in the election. So we copied their language
> that assigns the proxy rights to Rod Hightower and changed the name on it
> to reflect me. The EAA has admitted that this is a document that they
> can't turn down at the elections in a few weeks.
>
> In the past there were 3 choices for EAA members to participate in the
> election:
> 1) They could choose not to participate.
> 2) They could show up in person to cast their vote at the annual business
> meeting.
> 3) They could assign their vote to Rod Hightower. (This is a check box on
> your annual renewal)
>
> Long story short, the elections would look like 13 votes for some members
> and 16,000 votes for those that Hightower wanted. So they ended up being
> appointments and not elections by the members.
>
> I am receiving proxy forms from all over the globe and if you are
> frustrated with the EAA, I would appreciate it if you would do that same
> thing. The form can be found at this link.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26343935/EAA%20Member%20Proxy%20Statement.pdf
>
> You can send me a scanned copy or the original to:
> Phillip W. Perry
> C/O David Carr
> 1100 W Monroe St
> Austin, TX 78704
>
> Here are the votes we will be placing and the justification for selecting
> them:
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=678549&postcount=68
>
> Today the EAA retaliated against their members and sent out a link asking
> them to assign proxy votes to Rod Hightower. Please don't give total
> control of EAA to the current membership and choose to put control of the
> EAA back in the hands of the membership. Here's some details on that
> message:
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=679285
>
> Please don't assign your proxy to the EAA Leadership, and if you feel
> compelled I would be honored to carry your proxy vote forward at the
> business meeting at AirVenture. This is the first time (that I'm aware of)
> in the history of EAA that the members have found a way to legitimately
> participate.
>
> We need to get this word out to everyone who supports the effort ASAP. So
> if you agree, please highlight this proxy effort and share the message on
> every message board you can before some unknowing soul gives his vote to
> Rod Hightower and his buddies.
>
> We are going to be continuing this effort going into 2013 too and can use
> your support and even you active participation.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil Perry
>
> RV-10 #40750
> EAA Lifetime Member
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! |
Ed,
Thanks for your proxy.
That is correct, we have a several options for proxy collection setup
around the field.
1) Cleveland Tools is located beside the Vans Booth and they will be
accepting proxy forms in their booth. They will also have some blank forms
in their booth too, in case you forget to bring your own.
2) Gary Specketer offered to collect proxy forms at the RV-10 HQ.
3) Louise Hose will be collecting at the Vans Banquet on Tuesday night.
4) At the same time, I will be at the EAA Lifetime Members dinner
collecting forms.
5) You can also reach out to me and I will find a way to meet you on the
field to collect your proxy at a scheduled time.
Thanks for your support. Let's return the EAA to its members.
Phil
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Ed Kranz <ed.kranz@gmail.com> wrote:
> Phil,
>
> Thanks for taking this up for us.
>
> I'll be handing my proxy form in at OSH. You should also mention that
> there are places like the Cleaveland Tools booth and people at the 10HQ
> that will be drop off points for the forms as an alternative to snail
> mailing them in. If this has changed since the last I read the thread over
> at VAF, I apologize!
>
> Ed
>
>
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| Subject: | OSH12 RV10 Pot Luck Dinner |
(cross-posted from VAF)
OK. I'll bite. I'll coordinate the PotLuck.
*Tentatively Sunday the 22nd @ the RV10 HQ in Camp Scholler. *(Logistically,
I think this will work better than HBC for having grills, picnic tables,
generators, ect for a large group)
*7:30PM? Earlier? Later?
Sign up is at http://www.perfectpotluck.com/meals.php?t=AKIL0864 *
You can also go to www.perfectpotluck.com and search for last name *Kranz* with
a password of *osh12*
The site will let me email updates out to all contributors, so make sure
the email address you enter is a good one. Add a phone number if you'd
like, but it's not required.
Let me know if I should add categories or make more room in existing
categories on the signup list. We can also keep a paper signup sheet at the
10HQ for the non-internet types.
Who's in?
Also, if anyone has any strong feelings about the time or date, say
something, and we'll try to go with the consensus.
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| Subject: | Urgent: EAA Members - Action! |
Phillip,
Rather than leave your 5th vote "open", I would recommend casting it for one
of the existing board members, Barry Davis. At least Barry has built an
airplane, a Pietenpol Air Camper (scratch/plans built), which is more than
you can say for most of the board (including Hightower).
You'll have my scanned proxy in the morning. Thanks for taking this on.
I'm ready to leave EAA, which I've been a member of since 1974, if they
don't change course drastically and get back to supporting homebuilders and
the homebuilt community. We don't need another AOPA - the one we have is
sufficient.
Jack Phillips
EAA 81225
Pietenpol Air Camper (flying)
RV-10 (finished the wings, ready to start the fuselage)
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:15 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Urgent: EAA Members - Action!
Hi Everyone,
If many of you follow =VAF=, you're probably aware that there is a campaign
within the EAA Membership community to participate in the upcoming election
of the EAA Board of Directors. We figured that instead of just complaining,
we should actually participate in the democratic elections.
This simply idea led to more than 1 month of stone walling from the EAA.
Still to this day, they have not provided a simple document that allows
their members to participate in the election. So we copied their language
that assigns the proxy rights to Rod Hightower and changed the name on it to
reflect me. The EAA has admitted that this is a document that they can't
turn down at the elections in a few weeks.
In the past there were 3 choices for EAA members to participate in the
election:
1) They could choose not to participate.
2) They could show up in person to cast their vote at the annual business
meeting.
3) They could assign their vote to Rod Hightower. (This is a check box on
your annual renewal)
Long story short, the elections would look like 13 votes for some members
and 16,000 votes for those that Hightower wanted. So they ended up being
appointments and not elections by the members.
I am receiving proxy forms from all over the globe and if you are frustrated
with the EAA, I would appreciate it if you would do that same thing. The
form can be found at this link.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26343935/EAA%20Member%20Proxy%20Statement.pdf
You can send me a scanned copy or the original to:
Phillip W. Perry
C/O David Carr
1100 W Monroe St
Austin, TX 78704
Here are the votes we will be placing and the justification for selecting
them:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=678549
<http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=678549&postcount=68>
&postcount=68
Today the EAA retaliated against their members and sent out a link asking
them to assign proxy votes to Rod Hightower. Please don't give total
control of EAA to the current membership and choose to put control of the
EAA back in the hands of the membership. Here's some details on that
message:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=679285
Please don't assign your proxy to the EAA Leadership, and if you feel
compelled I would be honored to carry your proxy vote forward at the
business meeting at AirVenture. This is the first time (that I'm aware of)
in the history of EAA that the members have found a way to legitimately
participate.
We need to get this word out to everyone who supports the effort ASAP. So
if you agree, please highlight this proxy effort and share the message on
every message board you can before some unknowing soul gives his vote to Rod
Hightower and his buddies.
We are going to be continuing this effort going into 2013 too and can use
your support and even you active participation.
Thanks,
Phil Perry
RV-10 #40750
EAA Lifetime Member
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! |
Thanks Jack.
There's a pretty important lesson in this year, and that is to not resign
your EAA membership. But instead keep (or get) an EAA membership but don't
assign your proxy to Hightower. Instead assign it to those of us fighting
the fight.
We need you to be a member so we can cast your vote. Without your vote, we
automatically lose any opportunity to introduce reform from the grass roots.
We aren't going to let this go after 2012, we've got plans to re-launch
the proxy collection campaign early next year and spend 364 days obtaining
member votes.
Thanks again for your feedback and support.
Phil
RV-10 #40750
EAA Lifetime Member
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> **
> Phillip,
>
> Rather than leave your 5th vote "open", I would recommend casting it for
> one of the existing board members, Barry Davis. At least Barry has built
> an airplane, a Pietenpol Air Camper (scratch/plans built), which is more
> than you can say for most of the board (including Hightower).
>
> You'll have my scanned proxy in the morning. Thanks for taking this on.
> I'm ready to leave EAA, which I've been a member of since 1974, if they
> don't change course drastically and get back to supporting homebuilders and
> the homebuilt community. We don't need another AOPA - the one we have is
> sufficient.
>
> Jack Phillips
> EAA 81225
> Pietenpol Air Camper (flying)
> RV-10 (finished the wings, ready to start the fuselage)
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Phillip Perry
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:15 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Urgent: EAA Members - Action!
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> If many of you follow =VAF=, you're probably aware that there is a
> campaign within the EAA Membership community to participate in the upcoming
> election of the EAA Board of Directors. We figured that instead of just
> complaining, we should actually participate in the democratic elections.
>
> This simply idea led to more than 1 month of stone walling from the EAA.
> Still to this day, they have not provided a simple document that allows
> their members to participate in the election. So we copied their language
> that assigns the proxy rights to Rod Hightower and changed the name on it
> to reflect me. The EAA has admitted that this is a document that they
> can't turn down at the elections in a few weeks.
>
> In the past there were 3 choices for EAA members to participate in the
> election:
> 1) They could choose not to participate.
> 2) They could show up in person to cast their vote at the annual business
> meeting.
> 3) They could assign their vote to Rod Hightower. (This is a check box on
> your annual renewal)
>
> Long story short, the elections would look like 13 votes for some members
> and 16,000 votes for those that Hightower wanted. So they ended up being
> appointments and not elections by the members.
>
> I am receiving proxy forms from all over the globe and if you are
> frustrated with the EAA, I would appreciate it if you would do that same
> thing. The form can be found at this link.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26343935/EAA%20Member%20Proxy%20Statement.pdf
>
> You can send me a scanned copy or the original to:
> Phillip W. Perry
> C/O David Carr
> 1100 W Monroe St
> Austin, TX 78704
>
> Here are the votes we will be placing and the justification for selecting
> them:
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=678549&postcount=68
>
> Today the EAA retaliated against their members and sent out a link asking
> them to assign proxy votes to Rod Hightower. Please don't give total
> control of EAA to the current membership and choose to put control of the
> EAA back in the hands of the membership. Here's some details on that
> message:
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=679285
>
> Please don't assign your proxy to the EAA Leadership, and if you feel
> compelled I would be honored to carry your proxy vote forward at the
> business meeting at AirVenture. This is the first time (that I'm aware of)
> in the history of EAA that the members have found a way to legitimately
> participate.
>
> We need to get this word out to everyone who supports the effort ASAP. So
> if you agree, please highlight this proxy effort and share the message on
> every message board you can before some unknowing soul gives his vote to
> Rod Hightower and his buddies.
>
> We are going to be continuing this effort going into 2013 too and can use
> your support and even you active participation.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil Perry
>
> RV-10 #40750
> EAA Lifetime Member
>
>
> *
>
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> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: OSH12 RV10 Pot Luck Dinner |
For those flying in with no local transportation for supplies, I will make a
supply run that afternoon. Just need to figure out how to accommodate do
nations on the page.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 12, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Ed Kranz <ed.kranz@gmail.com> wrote:
> (cross-posted from VAF)
>
> OK. I'll bite. I'll coordinate the PotLuck.
>
> Tentatively Sunday the 22nd @ the RV10 HQ in Camp Scholler. (Logistically,
I think this will work better than HBC for having grills, picnic tables, ge
nerators, ect for a large group)
> 7:30PM? Earlier? Later?
>
> Sign up is at http://www.perfectpotluck.com/meals.php?t=AKIL0864
>
> You can also go to www.perfectpotluck.com and search for last name Kranz w
ith a password of osh12
>
> The site will let me email updates out to all contributors, so make sure t
he email address you enter is a good one. Add a phone number if you'd like, b
ut it's not required.
>
> Let me know if I should add categories or make more room in existing categ
ories on the signup list. We can also keep a paper signup sheet at the 10HQ f
or the non-internet types.
>
> Who's in?
>
> Also, if anyone has any strong feelings about the time or date, say someth
ing, and we'll try to go with the consensus.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OSH12 RV10 Pot Luck Dinner |
I added a category of "Cash Donation". If you don't want to worry about
bringing food, just sign up for a donation, and list "CASH" in the "What
you'll bring" field. At least then you're on the list.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Bob's Gmail <condreyb@gmail.com> wrote:
> For those flying in with no local transportation for supplies, I will make
> a supply run that afternoon. Just need to figure out how to accommodate
> donations on the page.
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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| Subject: | Re: OSH12 RV10 Pot Luck Dinner |
That time line works for me. I'll be getting into Oshkosh between 3-4PM on
Sunday.
I love the Red Solo Cup's sign-up. It's going to be a party!
I'm good for an Andrew Jackson to be used any way necessary.
Phil
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Ed Kranz <ed.kranz@gmail.com> wrote:
> I added a category of "Cash Donation". If you don't want to worry about
> bringing food, just sign up for a donation, and list "CASH" in the "What
> you'll bring" field. At least then you're on the list.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Bob's Gmail <condreyb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For those flying in with no local transportation for supplies, I will
>> make a supply run that afternoon. Just need to figure out how to
>> accommodate donations on the page.
>> Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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