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1. 05:15 AM - Re: Tire Jack (Tim Lewis)
2. 05:51 AM - Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! (John Cox)
3. 06:44 AM - Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! (Phillip Perry)
4. 06:57 AM - Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! (Bill Judge)
5. 12:21 PM - Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! (Bob Turner)
6. 01:30 PM - Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! (John Cox)
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I used one of those for about 10 years on my RV-6A. Works fine. You do
have to modify the axle nut, but not a big deal. Also, you need a few
blocks of wood so you can lower the gear leg and remove the tire jack,
prior to removing the tire.
I made the same axle nut modification for my RV-10 so I could use the
tire jack, but I've been using a wing jack at home lately - much easier.
--
Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold
RV-10 N31TD -- 300 hrs
johngoodman said the following on 7/1/2012 2:37 PM:
>
> Has anybody tried this on an RV-10:
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/rvjack.php
>
> I'm looking for a traveling jack for changing tires, not a wing jack.
>
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 Phase One complete and flying.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376995#376995
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! |
As a Lifetime member who joined "Just before. The Roust of 2009-2010", I
still await word of those candidates we can vote for rather than proxy the
continued "AOPA like" decline and unresponsiveness of EAA towards its
builders. Can you advise whom to vote for?
John Cox
On Jul 13, 2012 9:05 AM, "Phillip Perry" <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> Thank you for your time in Afganistan and for sacrificing a good
> portion of your life for those of us here typing e-mails.
>
> Pascal hit a few key area, but there are a few more that should be
> brought up as well.
>
> The EAA debate has been a long time coming. It actually goes all the
> way back to Paul Poberezny when there was a movement to remove him.
> But in the past 3-4 years, the frustration with EAA has reached the
> boiling point for many members.
>
> Long story short, since Rod Hightower has taken over the organization
> the charter and image of EAA has made a dramatic shift away from their
> core values. The EAA has become focused on being the next AOPA
> politcally and they're focused on the money that can be made through
> AirVenture. I think it's great that AirVenture represents a strong
> revenue stream for the organization. But the organization has become
> focused on milking that stream and the memership community has paid
> the price. If 100% of the members disappeared tomorrow, the EAA would
> still exist based on the airshow. So the members are now second class
> citizens in the organization.
>
> Our efforts to participate in this years election were blocked by EAA
> by being unresponsive and ignoring our requests for a simple ballot to
> participate. This is a right that is entitled to the membership
> community within the bylaws. But this right has not been made
> available to the membership. As a result, the EAA holds nearly all of
> the membership votes. It's like the fox in the hen house in some
> regards.
>
> I love the EAA. I am passionate about it. I am a lifetime member. I
> have served as a chapter VP and President. As I sit here right now,
> I'm wearing a red AirVenture 2009 polo. I love the legacy EAA
> culture, I love the EAA brand. I really do care a lot about EAA.
>
> Since Rod Hightower has taken over the organization, the EAA has seen
> nearly 50 employees walk out the door from the toxic environment that
> Rod has created. These are important people like Charlie Becker, Adam
> Smith, Barry Elk, etc. Just yesterday, they lost HG Frautschy who is
> an Executive Director who has spent 22 years as an employee of the
> organization. The EAA culture as we know it is under attack from
> within.
>
> You might know Dick Kohler, he has taught a number of EAA SportAir
> workshops and he is passionate about EAA. You should read his
> comments at this link because he pretty much captures the environment
> that Rod has created.
>
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=675101&postcount
=122
>
> Additional information can be found at this link containing comments
> from EAA Board Members who have resigned. Here is a key comment if
> you don't go read the entire link.
>
> ============
> As Mike Dale put it was time for the Board to "grow up and start
> having the CEO work for the Board". I cannot be part of a rubber stamp
> Board whose prime loyalty is to the Founder and President rather than
> EAA members.
> ============
>
> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=7d613991-adcb-
426a-a210-5b7ee4112049
>
>
> I hope you will consider supporting our effort. We won't have enough
> votes to change this election, but we will have enough to put a shot
> across the bow of EAA's leadership.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
> On 7/13/12, Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote:
> > Jason;
> > First off, that you for the sacrifice to leave the comforts and safety
of
> > the US for our battle in Afghanistan. It=92s hard, been there, not
> Afghinstan
> > but another =93operation in 1990-1991. Thank you for your service!
> > I think you ask a very good question. Phil may not be able to answer it
> > completely but my initial thought is the folks writing articles for Spo
rt
> > aviation are ex flying magazine writers who have no idea of what
> building a
> > plane is about, there was a meeting and their has been that =93combined
=94
> > effort of AOPA and EAA to represent us with Lsa and other general flyin
g
> > issues, good idea, sure! I would like to see the EAA fight for
> homebuilders
> > and not general aviation however.
> > My corporation does the same thing EAA does. Phil just wants members to
> have
> > more say on who is voted in versus the big kahuna at EAA himself.
> >
> > From: Jason Wodack
> > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:11 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Urgent: EAA Members - Action!
> >
> > Phil,
> > I've been in Afghanistan for the last year, and therefore out of the lo
op
> > for a while. I was just curious about what I was missing that has caus
ed
> > such a reaction.
> >
> > I've seen claims of EAA not supporting home builders, and since I'm
> about to
> > start on an RV-10 at the end of this deployment, that concerns me. I w
as
> > hoping you(or someone) could bring me up to speed on what I have missed
,
> and
> > what the issues are that we are having.
> >
> > I admire your convition, and your willingness to take action. I do n't
> want
> > to seem like I'm challenging you, but I do want to be well informed
> before I
> > make a decision,
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jason
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > If many of you follow =VAF=, you're probably aware that there is
a
> > campaign within the EAA Membership community to participate in the
> upcoming
> > election of the EAA Board of Directors. We figured that instead of jus
t
> > complaining, we should actually participate in the democratic elections
.
> >
> > This simply idea led to more than 1 month of stone walling from the
> EAA.
> > Still to this day, they have not provided a simple document that allows
> > their members to participate in the election. So we copied their
> language
> > that assigns the proxy rights to Rod Hightower and changed the name on
> it to
> > reflect me. The EAA has admitted that this is a document that they can
't
> > turn down at the elections in a few weeks.
> >
> > In the past there were 3 choices for EAA members to participate in th
e
> > election:
> >
> > 1) They could choose not to participate.
> > 2) They could show up in person to cast their vote at the annual
> business
> > meeting.
> > 3) They could assign their vote to Rod Hightower. (This is a check
> box on
> > your annual renewal)
> >
> >
> > Long story short, the elections would look like 13 votes for some
> members
> > and 16,000 votes for those that Hightower wanted. So they ended up bei
ng
> > appointments and not elections by the members.
> >
> > I am receiving proxy forms from all over the globe and if you are
> > frustrated with the EAA, I would appreciate it if you would do that sam
e
> > thing. The form can be found at this link.
> >
> >
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26343935/EAA%20Member%20Proxy%20Statement.pdf
> >
> >
> > You can send me a scanned copy or the original to:
> >
> > Phillip W. Perry
> > C/O David Carr
> > 1100 W Monroe St
> > Austin, TX 78704
> >
> >
> > Here are the votes we will be placing and the justification for
> selecting
> > them:
> >
> >
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=678549&postcount
=68
> >
> >
> > Today the EAA retaliated against their members and sent out a link
> asking
> > them to assign proxy votes to Rod Hightower. Please don't give total
> > control of EAA to the current membership and choose to put control of t
he
> > EAA back in the hands of the membership. Here's some details on that
> > message:
> >
> > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=679285
> >
> >
> > Please don't assign your proxy to the EAA Leadership, and if you feel
> > compelled I would be honored to carry your proxy vote forward at the
> > business meeting at AirVenture. This is the first time (that I'm aware
> of)
> > in the history of EAA that the members have found a way to legitimately
> > participate.
> >
> > We need to get this word out to everyone who supports the effort ASAP
.
> So
> > if you agree, please highlight this proxy effort and share the message
on
> > every message board you can before some unknowing soul gives his vote t
o
> Rod
> > Hightower and his buddies.
> >
> > We are going to be continuing this effort going into 2013 too and can
> use
> > your support and even you active participation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Phil Perry
> >
> > RV-10 #40750
> > EAA Lifetime Member
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> > tp://forums.matronics.com
> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! |
John,
Are you going to be at the lifetime members banquet on Tues or attending
the annual business meeting on Saturday morning?
Here is some commentary I put together for the folks I am representing. We
clearly won't have enough votes to move the election in any specific
direction, so our strategy for this year is to simply cast a vote that
reflects our loss of confidence in the management. Even though we won't
have the votes to move the election, we will have enough votes to put a
reasonable shot across the bow.
For those of you who can attend the meeting at AirVenture on Saturday, I'd
encourage you to do so. Apparently these meetings typically have 50 people
attending and most of them are family members of the candidates. If you're
dissatisfied and can be there, you need to be there. It's your
responsibility to be there, be seen, and cast your own vote. Otherwise,
the next best thing is to assign your proxy to me and I'll respectfully do
it for you.
Commentary below.
Thanks,
Phil
===================
The most relevant piece of information involves the five Class I Director
seats that are coming open as well as additional information related to the
nine candidates. The biographies provided in Sport Aviation might be
accurate, but there are some key details missing in a few of them.
After some research, we found that five of the nine candidates are current
EAA Class I Directors. This information is explicitly called out in two
bios and only hinted-to in Alan Shackleton=92s bio.
The five members of the board who are running for re-election are:
Barry Davis
John (Jack) Harrington
David Lau
Dan Schwinn
Alan Shackleton
The discovery of this information made us rethink the initial
recommendations for vote distribution and that initiated a lengthy
discussion about voting strategy.
The EAA=92s lack of transparency (Lack of meeting minutes, no published
voting records, etc.) doesn=92t allow us to evaluate each board member on
their individual merit. Based on the state of affairs at EAA, it is hard
for us to confidently vote for any of these individuals. I=92m sure there a
re
a few respectable folks in here, but that can=92t be determined because of
the lack of transparency. This is the same lack of transparency they are
responsible for creating/maintaining.
After our discussion and the revelation that 5 of the 9 candidates are
running for re-election within all 5 open seats, I have decided to adjust
my own recommendations to vote for the 4 candidates who are not members of
the current board of directors and leave our 5th vote unassigned.
This means our five votes would be for:
Doug Crumrine
Ethan Martin
Dave Morss
Steven Oxman
Open: No Vote Placed
While some would argue this isn=92t an optimal list, it is the only list of
candidates we have to choose from and it still provides some balance
between Homebuilders, Vintage, Warbirds, and Certified GA. But most
importantly a vote for these men represents a vote in favor of fresh ideas
and leadership when compared to the current collection of Class I Directors
.
==============
Thanks,
Phil
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:50 AM, John Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote:
> As a Lifetime member who joined "Just before. The Roust of 2009-2010", I
> still await word of those candidates we can vote for rather than proxy th
e
> continued "AOPA like" decline and unresponsiveness of EAA towards its
> builders. Can you advise whom to vote for?
>
> John Cox
> On Jul 13, 2012 9:05 AM, "Phillip Perry" <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>> Thank you for your time in Afganistan and for sacrificing a good
>> portion of your life for those of us here typing e-mails.
>>
>> Pascal hit a few key area, but there are a few more that should be
>> brought up as well.
>>
>> The EAA debate has been a long time coming. It actually goes all the
>> way back to Paul Poberezny when there was a movement to remove him.
>> But in the past 3-4 years, the frustration with EAA has reached the
>> boiling point for many members.
>>
>> Long story short, since Rod Hightower has taken over the organization
>> the charter and image of EAA has made a dramatic shift away from their
>> core values. The EAA has become focused on being the next AOPA
>> politcally and they're focused on the money that can be made through
>> AirVenture. I think it's great that AirVenture represents a strong
>> revenue stream for the organization. But the organization has become
>> focused on milking that stream and the memership community has paid
>> the price. If 100% of the members disappeared tomorrow, the EAA would
>> still exist based on the airshow. So the members are now second class
>> citizens in the organization.
>>
>> Our efforts to participate in this years election were blocked by EAA
>> by being unresponsive and ignoring our requests for a simple ballot to
>> participate. This is a right that is entitled to the membership
>> community within the bylaws. But this right has not been made
>> available to the membership. As a result, the EAA holds nearly all of
>> the membership votes. It's like the fox in the hen house in some
>> regards.
>>
>> I love the EAA. I am passionate about it. I am a lifetime member. I
>> have served as a chapter VP and President. As I sit here right now,
>> I'm wearing a red AirVenture 2009 polo. I love the legacy EAA
>> culture, I love the EAA brand. I really do care a lot about EAA.
>>
>> Since Rod Hightower has taken over the organization, the EAA has seen
>> nearly 50 employees walk out the door from the toxic environment that
>> Rod has created. These are important people like Charlie Becker, Adam
>> Smith, Barry Elk, etc. Just yesterday, they lost HG Frautschy who is
>> an Executive Director who has spent 22 years as an employee of the
>> organization. The EAA culture as we know it is under attack from
>> within.
>>
>> You might know Dick Kohler, he has taught a number of EAA SportAir
>> workshops and he is passionate about EAA. You should read his
>> comments at this link because he pretty much captures the environment
>> that Rod has created.
>>
>> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=675101&postcount
=122
>>
>> Additional information can be found at this link containing comments
>> from EAA Board Members who have resigned. Here is a key comment if
>> you don't go read the entire link.
>>
>> ============
>> As Mike Dale put it was time for the Board to "grow up and start
>> having the CEO work for the Board". I cannot be part of a rubber stamp
>> Board whose prime loyalty is to the Founder and President rather than
>> EAA members.
>> ============
>>
>> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=7d613991-adcb
-426a-a210-5b7ee4112049
>>
>>
>> I hope you will consider supporting our effort. We won't have enough
>> votes to change this election, but we will have enough to put a shot
>> across the bow of EAA's leadership.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/13/12, Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote:
>> > Jason;
>> > First off, that you for the sacrifice to leave the comforts and safety
>> of
>> > the US for our battle in Afghanistan. It=92s hard, been there, not
>> Afghinstan
>> > but another =93operation in 1990-1991. Thank you for your service!
>> > I think you ask a very good question. Phil may not be able to answer i
t
>> > completely but my initial thought is the folks writing articles for
>> Sport
>> > aviation are ex flying magazine writers who have no idea of what
>> building a
>> > plane is about, there was a meeting and their has been that =93combine
d=94
>> > effort of AOPA and EAA to represent us with Lsa and other general flyi
ng
>> > issues, good idea, sure! I would like to see the EAA fight for
>> homebuilders
>> > and not general aviation however.
>> > My corporation does the same thing EAA does. Phil just wants members t
o
>> have
>> > more say on who is voted in versus the big kahuna at EAA himself.
>> >
>> > From: Jason Wodack
>> > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:11 AM
>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Urgent: EAA Members - Action!
>> >
>> > Phil,
>> > I've been in Afghanistan for the last year, and therefore out of the
>> loop
>> > for a while. I was just curious about what I was missing that has
>> caused
>> > such a reaction.
>> >
>> > I've seen claims of EAA not supporting home builders, and since I'm
>> about to
>> > start on an RV-10 at the end of this deployment, that concerns me. I
>> was
>> > hoping you(or someone) could bring me up to speed on what I have
>> missed, and
>> > what the issues are that we are having.
>> >
>> > I admire your convition, and your willingness to take action. I do n'
t
>> want
>> > to seem like I'm challenging you, but I do want to be well informed
>> before I
>> > make a decision,
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Jason
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> > If many of you follow =VAF=, you're probably aware that there is
a
>> > campaign within the EAA Membership community to participate in the
>> upcoming
>> > election of the EAA Board of Directors. We figured that instead of ju
st
>> > complaining, we should actually participate in the democratic election
s.
>> >
>> > This simply idea led to more than 1 month of stone walling from the
>> EAA.
>> > Still to this day, they have not provided a simple document that allow
s
>> > their members to participate in the election. So we copied their
>> language
>> > that assigns the proxy rights to Rod Hightower and changed the name on
>> it to
>> > reflect me. The EAA has admitted that this is a document that they
>> can't
>> > turn down at the elections in a few weeks.
>> >
>> > In the past there were 3 choices for EAA members to participate in t
he
>> > election:
>> >
>> > 1) They could choose not to participate.
>> > 2) They could show up in person to cast their vote at the annual
>> business
>> > meeting.
>> > 3) They could assign their vote to Rod Hightower. (This is a check
>> box on
>> > your annual renewal)
>> >
>> >
>> > Long story short, the elections would look like 13 votes for some
>> members
>> > and 16,000 votes for those that Hightower wanted. So they ended up
>> being
>> > appointments and not elections by the members.
>> >
>> > I am receiving proxy forms from all over the globe and if you are
>> > frustrated with the EAA, I would appreciate it if you would do that sa
me
>> > thing. The form can be found at this link.
>> >
>> >
>> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26343935/EAA%20Member%20Proxy%20Statement.pd
f
>> >
>> >
>> > You can send me a scanned copy or the original to:
>> >
>> > Phillip W. Perry
>> > C/O David Carr
>> > 1100 W Monroe St
>> > Austin, TX 78704
>> >
>> >
>> > Here are the votes we will be placing and the justification for
>> selecting
>> > them:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=678549&postcount
=68
>> >
>> >
>> > Today the EAA retaliated against their members and sent out a link
>> asking
>> > them to assign proxy votes to Rod Hightower. Please don't give total
>> > control of EAA to the current membership and choose to put control of
>> the
>> > EAA back in the hands of the membership. Here's some details on that
>> > message:
>> >
>> > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=679285
>> >
>> >
>> > Please don't assign your proxy to the EAA Leadership, and if you fee
l
>> > compelled I would be honored to carry your proxy vote forward at the
>> > business meeting at AirVenture. This is the first time (that I'm awar
e
>> of)
>> > in the history of EAA that the members have found a way to legitimatel
y
>> > participate.
>> >
>> > We need to get this word out to everyone who supports the effort
>> ASAP. So
>> > if you agree, please highlight this proxy effort and share the message
>> on
>> > every message board you can before some unknowing soul gives his vote
>> to Rod
>> > Hightower and his buddies.
>> >
>> > We are going to be continuing this effort going into 2013 too and ca
n
>> use
>> > your support and even you active participation.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Phil Perry
>> >
>> > RV-10 #40750
>> > EAA Lifetime Member
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> > tp://forums.matronics.com
>> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>> ==========
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>> ==========
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>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent: EAA Members - Action! |
Regulatory Advocacy to me is the most important thing EAA does, by that I
mean protecting our ability to build homebuilt aircraft with the least
encumbrances possible.
I guess the thing I'm most concerned about is, would the new management of
EAA take as seriously the threat to homebuilding that was presented when
the FAA was reviewing the 51% rule?
My guess is probably not, as demonstrated by the loss of the ability for
instructors to charge for instruction in their own homebuilts by being an
EAA member, instructing an EAA member.
It used to be that anyone who was an EAA member, instructor and owned a
homebuilt could charge for instruction but that loophole in the rules
quietly expired. Now an instructor has to go through a lengthy letter of
deviation authority process which is not standardized across the FSDOs.
There used to be a guy in Florida that you could get a private multi engine
ticket in an Aircam... not anymore.
I think that I'm throwing my lot in with these guys.
Bill
N84WJ, RV-8, 791hrs.
rv-8.blogspot.com
Time: 09:02:35 AM PST US
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Urgent: EAA Members - Action!
From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
Hi Jason,
Thank you for your time in Afganistan and for sacrificing a good
portion of your life for those of us here typing e-mails.
Pascal hit a few key area, but there are a few more that should be
brought up as well.
The EAA debate has been a long time coming. It actually goes all the
way back to Paul Poberezny when there was a movement to remove him.
But in the past 3-4 years, the frustration with EAA has reached the
boiling point for many members.
Long story short, since Rod Hightower has taken over the organization
the charter and image of EAA has made a dramatic shift away from their
core values. The EAA has become focused on being the next AOPA
politcally and they're focused on the money that can be made through
AirVenture. I think it's great that AirVenture represents a strong
revenue stream for the organization. But the organization has become
focused on milking that stream and the memership community has paid
the price. If 100% of the members disappeared tomorrow, the EAA would
still exist based on the airshow. So the members are now second class
citizens in the organization.
Our efforts to participate in this years election were blocked by EAA
by being unresponsive and ignoring our requests for a simple ballot to
participate. This is a right that is entitled to the membership
community within the bylaws. But this right has not been made
available to the membership. As a result, the EAA holds nearly all of
the membership votes. It's like the fox in the hen house in some
regards.
I love the EAA. I am passionate about it. I am a lifetime member. I
have served as a chapter VP and President. As I sit here right now,
I'm wearing a red AirVenture 2009 polo. I love the legacy EAA
culture, I love the EAA brand. I really do care a lot about EAA.
Since Rod Hightower has taken over the organization, the EAA has seen
nearly 50 employees walk out the door from the toxic environment that
Rod has created. These are important people like Charlie Becker, Adam
Smith, Barry Elk, etc. Just yesterday, they lost HG Frautschy who is
an Executive Director who has spent 22 years as an employee of the
organization. The EAA culture as we know it is under attack from
within.
You might know Dick Kohler, he has taught a number of EAA SportAir
workshops and he is passionate about EAA. You should read his
comments at this link because he pretty much captures the environment
that Rod has created.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=675101&postcount=122
Additional information can be found at this link containing comments
from EAA Board Members who have resigned. Here is a key comment if
you don't go read the entire link.
===========
As Mike Dale put it was time for the Board to "grow up and start
having the CEO work for the Board". I cannot be part of a rubber stamp
Board whose prime loyalty is to the Founder and President rather than
EAA members.
===========
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=7d613991-adcb-426a-a210-5b7ee4112049
I hope you will consider supporting our effort. We won't have enough
votes to change this election, but we will have enough to put a shot
across the bow of EAA's leadership.
Thanks,
Phil
>
> Time: 09:02:35 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Urgent: EAA Members - Action!
> From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
>
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> Thank you for your time in Afganistan and for sacrificing a good
> portion of your life for those of us here typing e-mails.
>
> Pascal hit a few key area, but there are a few more that should be
> brought up as well.
>
> The EAA debate has been a long time coming. It actually goes all the
> way back to Paul Poberezny when there was a movement to remove him.
> But in the past 3-4 years, the frustration with EAA has reached the
> boiling point for many members.
>
> Long story short, since Rod Hightower has taken over the organization
> the charter and image of EAA has made a dramatic shift away from their
> core values. The EAA has become focused on being the next AOPA
> politcally and they're focused on the money that can be made through
> AirVenture. I think it's great that AirVenture represents a strong
> revenue stream for the organization. But the organization has become
> focused on milking that stream and the memership community has paid
> the price. If 100% of the members disappeared tomorrow, the EAA would
> still exist based on the airshow. So the members are now second class
> citizens in the organization.
>
> Our efforts to participate in this years election were blocked by EAA
> by being unresponsive and ignoring our requests for a simple ballot to
> participate. This is a right that is entitled to the membership
> community within the bylaws. But this right has not been made
> available to the membership. As a result, the EAA holds nearly all of
> the membership votes. It's like the fox in the hen house in some
> regards.
>
> I love the EAA. I am passionate about it. I am a lifetime member. I
> have served as a chapter VP and President. As I sit here right now,
> I'm wearing a red AirVenture 2009 polo. I love the legacy EAA
> culture, I love the EAA brand. I really do care a lot about EAA.
>
> Since Rod Hightower has taken over the organization, the EAA has seen
> nearly 50 employees walk out the door from the toxic environment that
> Rod has created. These are important people like Charlie Becker, Adam
> Smith, Barry Elk, etc. Just yesterday, they lost HG Frautschy who is
> an Executive Director who has spent 22 years as an employee of the
> organization. The EAA culture as we know it is under attack from
> within.
>
> You might know Dick Kohler, he has taught a number of EAA SportAir
> workshops and he is passionate about EAA. You should read his
> comments at this link because he pretty much captures the environment
> that Rod has created.
>
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=675101&postcount=122
>
> Additional information can be found at this link containing comments
> from EAA Board Members who have resigned. Here is a key comment if
> you don't go read the entire link.
>
> ===========
> As Mike Dale put it was time for the Board to "grow up and start
> having the CEO work for the Board". I cannot be part of a rubber stamp
> Board whose prime loyalty is to the Founder and President rather than
> EAA members.
> ===========
>
> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=7d613991-adcb-426a-a210-5b7ee4112049
>
>
> I hope you will consider supporting our effort. We won't have enough
> votes to change this election, but we will have enough to put a shot
> across the bow of EAA's leadership.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
> On 7/13/12, Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote:
> > Jason;
> > First off, that you for the sacrifice to leave the comforts and safety of
> > the US for our battle in Afghanistan. Its hard, been there, not
> Afghinstan
> > but another operation in 1990-1991. Thank you for your service!
> > I think you ask a very good question. Phil may not be able to answer it
> > completely but my initial thought is the folks writing articles for Sport
> > aviation are ex flying magazine writers who have no idea of what
> building a
> > plane is about, there was a meeting and their has been that combined
> > effort of AOPA and EAA to represent us with Lsa and other general flying
> > issues, good idea, sure! I would like to see the EAA fight for
> homebuilders
> > and not general aviation however.
> > My corporation does the same thing EAA does. Phil just wants members to
> have
> > more say on who is voted in versus the big kahuna at EAA himself.
> >
> > From: Jason Wodack
> > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:11 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Urgent: EAA Members - Action!
> >
> > Phil,
> > I've been in Afghanistan for the last year, and therefore out of the loop
> > for a while. I was just curious about what I was missing that has caused
> > such a reaction.
> >
> > I've seen claims of EAA not supporting home builders, and since I'm
> about to
> > start on an RV-10 at the end of this deployment, that concerns me. I was
> > hoping you(or someone) could bring me up to speed on what I have missed,
> and
> > what the issues are that we are having.
> >
> > I admire your convition, and your willingness to take action. I do n't
> want
> > to seem like I'm challenging you, but I do want to be well informed
> before I
> > make a decision,
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jason
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > If many of you follow =VAF=, you're probably aware that there is a
> > campaign within the EAA Membership community to participate in the
> upcoming
> > election of the EAA Board of Directors. We figured that instead of just
> > complaining, we should actually participate in the democratic elections.
> >
> > This simply idea led to more than 1 month of stone walling from the
> EAA.
> > Still to this day, they have not provided a simple document that allows
> > their members to participate in the election. So we copied their
> language
> > that assigns the proxy rights to Rod Hightower and changed the name on
> it to
> > reflect me. The EAA has admitted that this is a document that they can't
> > turn down at the elections in a few weeks.
> >
> > In the past there were 3 choices for EAA members to participate in the
> > election:
> >
> > 1) They could choose not to participate.
> > 2) They could show up in person to cast their vote at the annual
> business
> > meeting.
> > 3) They could assign their vote to Rod Hightower. (This is a check
> box on
> > your annual renewal)
> >
> >
> > Long story short, the elections would look like 13 votes for some
> members
> > and 16,000 votes for those that Hightower wanted. So they ended up being
> > appointments and not elections by the members.
> >
> > I am receiving proxy forms from all over the globe and if you are
> > frustrated with the EAA, I would appreciate it if you would do that same
> > thing. The form can be found at this link.
> >
> >
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26343935/EAA%20Member%20Proxy%20Statement.pdf
> >
> >
> > You can send me a scanned copy or the original to:
> >
> > Phillip W. Perry
> > C/O David Carr
> > 1100 W Monroe St
> > Austin, TX 78704
> >
> >
> > Here are the votes we will be placing and the justification for
> selecting
> > them:
> >
> >
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=678549&postcount=68
> >
> >
> > Today the EAA retaliated against their members and sent out a link
> asking
> > them to assign proxy votes to Rod Hightower. Please don't give total
> > control of EAA to the current membership and choose to put control of the
> > EAA back in the hands of the membership. Here's some details on that
> > message:
> >
> > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=679285
> >
> >
> > Please don't assign your proxy to the EAA Leadership, and if you feel
> > compelled I would be honored to carry your proxy vote forward at the
> > business meeting at AirVenture. This is the first time (that I'm aware
> of)
> > in the history of EAA that the members have found a way to legitimately
> > participate.
> >
> > We need to get this word out to everyone who supports the effort ASAP.
> So
> > if you agree, please highlight this proxy effort and share the message on
> > every message board you can before some unknowing soul gives his vote to
> Rod
> > Hightower and his buddies.
> >
> > We are going to be continuing this effort going into 2013 too and can
> use
> > your support and even you active participation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Phil Perry
> >
> > RV-10 #40750
> > EAA Lifetime Member
> >
> >
> > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> > tp://forums.matronics.com
> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
> >
>
>
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Bill,
As an RV10 owner, and CFI, I'd like to comment on your comments.
Here at the OAK FSDO getting a LODA for type-specific training was not effortless,
but not that difficult either. The key is telling them someone else has already
done this (they never want to set precedents). Once I gave them an N number
(off Van's list) everything went smoothly.
I would, personally, love to give instrument instruction or Flight Reviews in my
aircraft, but, as you pointed out, my LODA does not allow this. However, I do
understand the FAA's position. The LODA is a waiver on the "no use for compensation
or hire" clause. The FAA feels it has a duty to protect the public and
it is very resistant to allowing E-AB aircraft to be held out to the public for
hire. This does cause a different problem: giving only type specific instruction,
there isn't enough business to justify the insurance cost, so I have decided,
in general, not to do it (or only on a case by case basis, where I can
get the pilot on my current insurance). This is an issue, but the FAA doesn't
see it as their issue.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378290#378290
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Will be @ OSH.
503-453-6016
On Jul 14, 2012 6:49 AM, "Phillip Perry" <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> Are you going to be at the lifetime members banquet on Tues or attending
> the annual business meeting on Saturday morning?
>
> Here is some commentary I put together for the folks I am representing.
> We clearly won't have enough votes to move the election in any specific
> direction, so our strategy for this year is to simply cast a vote that
> reflects our loss of confidence in the management. Even though we won't
> have the votes to move the election, we will have enough votes to put a
> reasonable shot across the bow.
>
> For those of you who can attend the meeting at AirVenture on Saturday, I'
d
> encourage you to do so. Apparently these meetings typically have 50 peop
le
> attending and most of them are family members of the candidates. If you'
re
> dissatisfied and can be there, you need to be there. It's your
> responsibility to be there, be seen, and cast your own vote. Otherwise,
> the next best thing is to assign your proxy to me and I'll respectfully d
o
> it for you.
>
> Commentary below.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
> ===================
>
> The most relevant piece of information involves the five Class I Director
> seats that are coming open as well as additional information related to t
he
> nine candidates. The biographies provided in Sport Aviation might be
> accurate, but there are some key details missing in a few of them.
>
> After some research, we found that five of the nine candidates are curren
t
> EAA Class I Directors. This information is explicitly called out in two
> bios and only hinted-to in Alan Shackleton=92s bio.
>
> The five members of the board who are running for re-election are:
>
> Barry Davis
> John (Jack) Harrington
> David Lau
> Dan Schwinn
> Alan Shackleton
>
> The discovery of this information made us rethink the initial
> recommendations for vote distribution and that initiated a lengthy
> discussion about voting strategy.
>
> The EAA=92s lack of transparency (Lack of meeting minutes, no published
> voting records, etc.) doesn=92t allow us to evaluate each board member on
> their individual merit. Based on the state of affairs at EAA, it is hard
> for us to confidently vote for any of these individuals. I=92m sure there
are
> a few respectable folks in here, but that can=92t be determined because o
f
> the lack of transparency. This is the same lack of transparency they are
> responsible for creating/maintaining.
>
> After our discussion and the revelation that 5 of the 9 candidates are
> running for re-election within all 5 open seats, I have decided to adjust
> my own recommendations to vote for the 4 candidates who are not members o
f
> the current board of directors and leave our 5th vote unassigned.
>
> This means our five votes would be for:
>
> Doug Crumrine
> Ethan Martin
> Dave Morss
> Steven Oxman
> Open: No Vote Placed
>
> While some would argue this isn=92t an optimal list, it is the only list
of
> candidates we have to choose from and it still provides some balance
> between Homebuilders, Vintage, Warbirds, and Certified GA. But most
> importantly a vote for these men represents a vote in favor of fresh idea
s
> and leadership when compared to the current collection of Class I Directo
rs.
>
> ==============
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:50 AM, John Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As a Lifetime member who joined "Just before. The Roust of 2009-2010", I
>> still await word of those candidates we can vote for rather than proxy t
he
>> continued "AOPA like" decline and unresponsiveness of EAA towards its
>> builders. Can you advise whom to vote for?
>>
>> John Cox
>> On Jul 13, 2012 9:05 AM, "Phillip Perry" <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time in Afganistan and for sacrificing a good
>>> portion of your life for those of us here typing e-mails.
>>>
>>> Pascal hit a few key area, but there are a few more that should be
>>> brought up as well.
>>>
>>> The EAA debate has been a long time coming. It actually goes all the
>>> way back to Paul Poberezny when there was a movement to remove him.
>>> But in the past 3-4 years, the frustration with EAA has reached the
>>> boiling point for many members.
>>>
>>> Long story short, since Rod Hightower has taken over the organization
>>> the charter and image of EAA has made a dramatic shift away from their
>>> core values. The EAA has become focused on being the next AOPA
>>> politcally and they're focused on the money that can be made through
>>> AirVenture. I think it's great that AirVenture represents a strong
>>> revenue stream for the organization. But the organization has become
>>> focused on milking that stream and the memership community has paid
>>> the price. If 100% of the members disappeared tomorrow, the EAA would
>>> still exist based on the airshow. So the members are now second class
>>> citizens in the organization.
>>>
>>> Our efforts to participate in this years election were blocked by EAA
>>> by being unresponsive and ignoring our requests for a simple ballot to
>>> participate. This is a right that is entitled to the membership
>>> community within the bylaws. But this right has not been made
>>> available to the membership. As a result, the EAA holds nearly all of
>>> the membership votes. It's like the fox in the hen house in some
>>> regards.
>>>
>>> I love the EAA. I am passionate about it. I am a lifetime member. I
>>> have served as a chapter VP and President. As I sit here right now,
>>> I'm wearing a red AirVenture 2009 polo. I love the legacy EAA
>>> culture, I love the EAA brand. I really do care a lot about EAA.
>>>
>>> Since Rod Hightower has taken over the organization, the EAA has seen
>>> nearly 50 employees walk out the door from the toxic environment that
>>> Rod has created. These are important people like Charlie Becker, Adam
>>> Smith, Barry Elk, etc. Just yesterday, they lost HG Frautschy who is
>>> an Executive Director who has spent 22 years as an employee of the
>>> organization. The EAA culture as we know it is under attack from
>>> within.
>>>
>>> You might know Dick Kohler, he has taught a number of EAA SportAir
>>> workshops and he is passionate about EAA. You should read his
>>> comments at this link because he pretty much captures the environment
>>> that Rod has created.
>>>
>>> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=675101&postcount
=122
>>>
>>> Additional information can be found at this link containing comments
>>> from EAA Board Members who have resigned. Here is a key comment if
>>> you don't go read the entire link.
>>>
>>> ============
>>> As Mike Dale put it was time for the Board to "grow up and start
>>> having the CEO work for the Board". I cannot be part of a rubber stamp
>>> Board whose prime loyalty is to the Founder and President rather than
>>> EAA members.
>>> ============
>>>
>>> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=7d613991-adc
b-426a-a210-5b7ee4112049
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope you will consider supporting our effort. We won't have enough
>>> votes to change this election, but we will have enough to put a shot
>>> across the bow of EAA's leadership.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/13/12, Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> > Jason;
>>> > First off, that you for the sacrifice to leave the comforts and safet
y
>>> of
>>> > the US for our battle in Afghanistan. It=92s hard, been there, not
>>> Afghinstan
>>> > but another =93operation in 1990-1991. Thank you for your service!
>>> > I think you ask a very good question. Phil may not be able to answer
it
>>> > completely but my initial thought is the folks writing articles for
>>> Sport
>>> > aviation are ex flying magazine writers who have no idea of what
>>> building a
>>> > plane is about, there was a meeting and their has been that =93combin
ed=94
>>> > effort of AOPA and EAA to represent us with Lsa and other general
>>> flying
>>> > issues, good idea, sure! I would like to see the EAA fight for
>>> homebuilders
>>> > and not general aviation however.
>>> > My corporation does the same thing EAA does. Phil just wants members
>>> to have
>>> > more say on who is voted in versus the big kahuna at EAA himself.
>>> >
>>> > From: Jason Wodack
>>> > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:11 AM
>>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Urgent: EAA Members - Action!
>>> >
>>> > Phil,
>>> > I've been in Afghanistan for the last year, and therefore out of the
>>> loop
>>> > for a while. I was just curious about what I was missing that has
>>> caused
>>> > such a reaction.
>>> >
>>> > I've seen claims of EAA not supporting home builders, and since I'm
>>> about to
>>> > start on an RV-10 at the end of this deployment, that concerns me. I
>>> was
>>> > hoping you(or someone) could bring me up to speed on what I have
>>> missed, and
>>> > what the issues are that we are having.
>>> >
>>> > I admire your convition, and your willingness to take action. I do
>>> n't want
>>> > to seem like I'm challenging you, but I do want to be well informed
>>> before I
>>> > make a decision,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> > Jason
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Everyone,
>>> >
>>> > If many of you follow =VAF=, you're probably aware that there i
s a
>>> > campaign within the EAA Membership community to participate in the
>>> upcoming
>>> > election of the EAA Board of Directors. We figured that instead of
>>> just
>>> > complaining, we should actually participate in the democratic
>>> elections.
>>> >
>>> > This simply idea led to more than 1 month of stone walling from the
>>> EAA.
>>> > Still to this day, they have not provided a simple document that allo
ws
>>> > their members to participate in the election. So we copied their
>>> language
>>> > that assigns the proxy rights to Rod Hightower and changed the name o
n
>>> it to
>>> > reflect me. The EAA has admitted that this is a document that they
>>> can't
>>> > turn down at the elections in a few weeks.
>>> >
>>> > In the past there were 3 choices for EAA members to participate in
>>> the
>>> > election:
>>> >
>>> > 1) They could choose not to participate.
>>> > 2) They could show up in person to cast their vote at the annual
>>> business
>>> > meeting.
>>> > 3) They could assign their vote to Rod Hightower. (This is a check
>>> box on
>>> > your annual renewal)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Long story short, the elections would look like 13 votes for some
>>> members
>>> > and 16,000 votes for those that Hightower wanted. So they ended up
>>> being
>>> > appointments and not elections by the members.
>>> >
>>> > I am receiving proxy forms from all over the globe and if you are
>>> > frustrated with the EAA, I would appreciate it if you would do that
>>> same
>>> > thing. The form can be found at this link.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26343935/EAA%20Member%20Proxy%20Statement.pdf
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > You can send me a scanned copy or the original to:
>>> >
>>> > Phillip W. Perry
>>> > C/O David Carr
>>> > 1100 W Monroe St
>>> > Austin, TX 78704
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Here are the votes we will be placing and the justification for
>>> selecting
>>> > them:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=678549&postcount
=68
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Today the EAA retaliated against their members and sent out a link
>>> asking
>>> > them to assign proxy votes to Rod Hightower. Please don't give total
>>> > control of EAA to the current membership and choose to put control of
>>> the
>>> > EAA back in the hands of the membership. Here's some details on that
>>> > message:
>>> >
>>> > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=679285
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Please don't assign your proxy to the EAA Leadership, and if you fe
el
>>> > compelled I would be honored to carry your proxy vote forward at the
>>> > business meeting at AirVenture. This is the first time (that I'm
>>> aware of)
>>> > in the history of EAA that the members have found a way to legitimate
ly
>>> > participate.
>>> >
>>> > We need to get this word out to everyone who supports the effort
>>> ASAP. So
>>> > if you agree, please highlight this proxy effort and share the messag
e
>>> on
>>> > every message board you can before some unknowing soul gives his vote
>>> to Rod
>>> > Hightower and his buddies.
>>> >
>>> > We are going to be continuing this effort going into 2013 too and
>>> can use
>>> > your support and even you active participation.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Phil Perry
>>> >
>>> > RV-10 #40750
>>> > EAA Lifetime Member
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>> > tp://forums.matronics.com
>>> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>>> ==========
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