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1. 07:47 AM - Re: Proxy Stuff.. (Rick Beebe)
2. 08:27 AM - Re: Proxy Stuff.. (Phil Perry)
3. 12:34 PM - Re: Proxy Stuff.. (Kelly McMullen)
4. 04:34 PM - Mythical, Magical, Travelling Nose Gear Incert Tool (Les Kearney)
5. 05:11 PM - Re: Proxy Stuff.. (Rick Beebe)
6. 05:48 PM - Logbook software (Michael Sausen)
7. 05:59 PM - Re: Logbook software (Robin Marks)
8. 06:09 PM - Re: Logbook software (Bob Turner)
9. 06:16 PM - Re: Logbook software (Michael Sausen)
10. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Logbook software (Tim Olson)
11. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Logbook software (Michael Sausen)
12. 06:45 PM - Re: Logbook software (Kelly McMullen)
13. 06:52 PM - Re: Re: Logbook software (Dave Saylor)
14. 06:56 PM - synergy air Wally Anderson (pilotdds)
15. 07:02 PM - Re: synergy air Wally Anderson (Dave Saylor)
16. 07:12 PM - Arrived at OSH (Dave Saylor)
17. 07:25 PM - Re: Proxy Stuff.. (Rick Lark)
18. 08:00 PM - Re: Proxy Stuff.. (Phil Perry)
19. 09:20 PM - Re: Logbook software (Dj Merrill)
20. 10:09 PM - Re: Logbook software (Rob Kochman)
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On 7/20/2012 11:21 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
> Personally I think we've pretty much done everything we can reasonably
> do between now and the time AirVenture closes. My concern is that the
> several folks are looking forward to the business meeting like a 'High
> Noon' duel on main street. We've collected enough proxy votes in 2
> weeks to make a reasonable statement and express our concerns. We can
> do it in a respectful manner and see how EAA chooses to respond. I'm
> hopeful they will accept the proxy's and provide better methods that
> allow all EAA members to participate in elections.
I'm looking forward to meeting you at the meeting and, I agree. It works
best if things stay cordial.
Earlier this week I spent quite a while writing a long email describing
the changes the board has been undergoing for the past few years. We
elected to downsize from over 50 to 25 or less. 18 elected members and
room for 7 class III directors (appointed by the board for 1 year
terms). We have also talked about adding transparency to the proxy
process and to changing the board nomination process. My purpose was
two-fold. One to let you know that your concerns with the proxy process
are not new and that some of us also want to see changes. And second to
attempt to preempt future cries along the line of "See, we showed up at
the meeting with our proxies and now the board is making changes to
thwart us next year!" I don't know, yet, if there will be process
changes next year but I did want you to know that redefining the board
is an ongoing project.
Unfortunately, I sent the email from the wrong address without saving a
copy and the matronics server bounced it without actually sending the
whole thing back to me. And I've been too busy this week to write it again.
I also wrote that I found the current list of directors. It's at
www.oshkosh365.org -> EAA Members Only -> Member Resources in the
Membership section. I personally believe the board minutes should be
there as well. They've had a lot of web site problems so I think that's
more of an oversight than an active attempt to hide things. EAA finally
has an IT director who knows what he's doing and IT has been improving
greatly since he came on board. I believe we're going to see a
wholescale revamp of the EAA web presence and I will ask that the
minutes be included.
Finally I had included some history of each of the board incumbents
since you had complained that you had no basis to vote for any of them.
I don't have time to rewrite all that but I would like to point out that
Barry Davis was only elected 3 years ago. He founded the EAA Chapter in
Carollton, GA and is very active in it. He was part of a group that
scratchbuilt 6 identical Pietenpols (2 of which got balled up in the
tornado at Sun 'n Fun--they rebuilding them) and is currently finishing
a ground-up restoration of his 1957 Cessna 172. In short, he's part of
that fresh-vision homebuilder stock you were looking for.
Just as reference, below I've attached a copy of an email I sent to Tom
in January, 2011 talking about the board restructuring.
Safe travels everyone. See you at AirVenture!
--Rick
------------------------------------------------
On 01/07/2011 10:30 AM, Tom Poberezny wrote:
> - Attached you will find a current list of directors. Note
> behind the Director name is the date each Director planned to retire or
> if they were going to serve long term (3 years or more). This was based
> on the conversations I had with each Board member in 2008. As a result
> of those interviews, these dates were developed in an effort to reduce
> the size of the Board (25 or less), a goal approved by the Board. The
> plan was to reach this size by the end of 2011. Please verify if the
> date indicated is correct.
It is. I'd like to serve at least one more 3 year term.
> - There have been thoughts expressed by some Directors as to
> whether or not we should continue to downsize the Board to 25
> Directors. Please provide your opinion.
If we take the division/council chairs out, we're at 24 now. I believe
our goal was 3 groups of 6 elected directors and that this year is the
final group. So we're nearly there anyway. We have some "extra"
directors because some of us got converted to class 3. Based on your
spreadsheet it seems like quite a few directors are not planning on
running next year so that gives us an opportunity to get to the goal
without getting rid of people we'd like to keep.
At any rate, I'm ambivalent about whether the count is 6 or 7 per year.
Many people will say a board shouldn't be larger than 8 or 9 but I'm not
sure we could adequately represent our diverse membership with that
small a board.
> - I am also asking each Director to share their thoughts
> regarding what you feel are the 2 - 3 key Governance priorities that
> need to be addressed.
The board downsizing combined with building a relationship with a new
president gives us a great opportunity to re-evaluate how the board
works. I don't think the board is broken, but I think it could be doing
better. Ie let's look at Board Development. FWIW I've recently become a
fan of John Carver's Policy-Governance Board model.
I also think it's a good time to take a look at the entire nominating &
election process to increase transparency and to make sure we have a mix
of directors that fairly represent the membership and have the skills we
really need in a board. That may include a proxy where the members get
to choose specific candidates. It may include an active nominating
committee that recruits candidates and doing away with self-nomination.
It may include term limits. I'm open to discussions about all three.
In short, I'm looking forward to seeing what your Board Governance plan
looks like.
Happy New Year!
--Rick
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| Subject: | Re: Proxy Stuff.. |
Rick,
Thanks for the feedback. That's a breath of fresh air.
I will send you my cell information in a separate message and we should at least
spend a few minutes talking at AV before Saturday.
I'm currently at the doctors office with my son and will send the info when I get
back to be house.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Rick Beebe <richard.beebe@yale.edu> wrote:
>
> On 7/20/2012 11:21 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
>> Personally I think we've pretty much done everything we can reasonably
>> do between now and the time AirVenture closes. My concern is that the
>> several folks are looking forward to the business meeting like a 'High
>> Noon' duel on main street. We've collected enough proxy votes in 2
>> weeks to make a reasonable statement and express our concerns. We can
>> do it in a respectful manner and see how EAA chooses to respond. I'm
>> hopeful they will accept the proxy's and provide better methods that
>> allow all EAA members to participate in elections.
>
> I'm looking forward to meeting you at the meeting and, I agree. It works best
if things stay cordial.
>
> Earlier this week I spent quite a while writing a long email describing the changes
the board has been undergoing for the past few years. We elected to downsize
from over 50 to 25 or less. 18 elected members and room for 7 class III
directors (appointed by the board for 1 year terms). We have also talked about
adding transparency to the proxy process and to changing the board nomination
process. My purpose was two-fold. One to let you know that your concerns with
the proxy process are not new and that some of us also want to see changes. And
second to attempt to preempt future cries along the line of "See, we showed
up at the meeting with our proxies and now the board is making changes to thwart
us next year!" I don't know, yet, if there will be process changes next year
but I did want you to know that redefining the board is an ongoing project.
>
> Unfortunately, I sent the email from the wrong address without saving a copy
and the matronics server bounced it without actually sending the whole thing back
to me. And I've been too busy this week to write it again.
>
> I also wrote that I found the current list of directors. It's at www.oshkosh365.org -> EAA Members Only -> Member Resources in the Membership section. I personally believe the board minutes should be there as well. They've had a lot of web site problems so I think that's more of an oversight than an active attempt to hide things. EAA finally has an IT director who knows what he's doing and IT has been improving greatly since he came on board. I believe we're going to see a wholescale revamp of the EAA web presence and I will ask that the minutes be included.
>
> Finally I had included some history of each of the board incumbents since you
had complained that you had no basis to vote for any of them. I don't have time
to rewrite all that but I would like to point out that Barry Davis was only
elected 3 years ago. He founded the EAA Chapter in Carollton, GA and is very
active in it. He was part of a group that scratchbuilt 6 identical Pietenpols
(2 of which got balled up in the tornado at Sun 'n Fun--they rebuilding them)
and is currently finishing a ground-up restoration of his 1957 Cessna 172. In
short, he's part of that fresh-vision homebuilder stock you were looking for.
>
> Just as reference, below I've attached a copy of an email I sent to Tom in January,
2011 talking about the board restructuring.
>
> Safe travels everyone. See you at AirVenture!
>
> --Rick
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> On 01/07/2011 10:30 AM, Tom Poberezny wrote:
> > - Attached you will find a current list of directors. Note
> > behind the Director name is the date each Director planned to retire or
> > if they were going to serve long term (3 years or more). This was based
> > on the conversations I had with each Board member in 2008. As a result
> > of those interviews, these dates were developed in an effort to reduce
> > the size of the Board (25 or less), a goal approved by the Board. The
> > plan was to reach this size by the end of 2011. Please verify if the
> > date indicated is correct.
>
> It is. I'd like to serve at least one more 3 year term.
>
> > - There have been thoughts expressed by some Directors as to
> > whether or not we should continue to downsize the Board to 25
> > Directors. Please provide your opinion.
>
> If we take the division/council chairs out, we're at 24 now. I believe
> our goal was 3 groups of 6 elected directors and that this year is the
> final group. So we're nearly there anyway. We have some "extra"
> directors because some of us got converted to class 3. Based on your
> spreadsheet it seems like quite a few directors are not planning on
> running next year so that gives us an opportunity to get to the goal
> without getting rid of people we'd like to keep.
>
> At any rate, I'm ambivalent about whether the count is 6 or 7 per year.
> Many people will say a board shouldn't be larger than 8 or 9 but I'm not
> sure we could adequately represent our diverse membership with that
> small a board.
>
> > - I am also asking each Director to share their thoughts
> > regarding what you feel are the 2 - 3 key Governance priorities that
> > need to be addressed.
>
> The board downsizing combined with building a relationship with a new
> president gives us a great opportunity to re-evaluate how the board
> works. I don't think the board is broken, but I think it could be doing
> better. Ie let's look at Board Development. FWIW I've recently become a
> fan of John Carver's Policy-Governance Board model.
>
> I also think it's a good time to take a look at the entire nominating &
> election process to increase transparency and to make sure we have a mix
> of directors that fairly represent the membership and have the skills we
> really need in a board. That may include a proxy where the members get
> to choose specific candidates. It may include an active nominating
> committee that recruits candidates and doing away with self-nomination.
> It may include term limits. I'm open to discussions about all three.
>
> In short, I'm looking forward to seeing what your Board Governance plan
> looks like.
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> --Rick
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Proxy Stuff.. |
Rick is one of the good guys, active on the Piper list that I administrate,
has a Cherokee(had?) that was up for sale last I recall.
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Phil Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. That's a breath of fresh air.
>
> I will send you my cell information in a separate message and we should at
> least spend a few minutes talking at AV before Saturday.
>
> I'm currently at the doctors office with my son and will send the info
> when I get back to be house.
>
> Phil
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Rick Beebe <richard.beebe@yale.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 7/20/2012 11:21 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
> >> Personally I think we've pretty much done everything we can reasonably
> >> do between now and the time AirVenture closes. My concern is that the
> >> several folks are looking forward to the business meeting like a 'High
> >> Noon' duel on main street. We've collected enough proxy votes in 2
> >> weeks to make a reasonable statement and express our concerns. We can
> >> do it in a respectful manner and see how EAA chooses to respond. I'm
> >> hopeful they will accept the proxy's and provide better methods that
> >> allow all EAA members to participate in elections.
> >
> > I'm looking forward to meeting you at the meeting and, I agree. It works
> best if things stay cordial.
> >
> > Earlier this week I spent quite a while writing a long email describing
> the changes the board has been undergoing for the past few years. We
> elected to downsize from over 50 to 25 or less. 18 elected members and room
> for 7 class III directors (appointed by the board for 1 year terms). We
> have also talked about adding transparency to the proxy process and to
> changing the board nomination process. My purpose was two-fold. One to let
> you know that your concerns with the proxy process are not new and that
> some of us also want to see changes. And second to attempt to preempt
> future cries along the line of "See, we showed up at the meeting with our
> proxies and now the board is making changes to thwart us next year!" I
> don't know, yet, if there will be process changes next year but I did want
> you to know that redefining the board is an ongoing project.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I sent the email from the wrong address without saving a
> copy and the matronics server bounced it without actually sending the whole
> thing back to me. And I've been too busy this week to write it again.
> >
> > I also wrote that I found the current list of directors. It's at
> www.oshkosh365.org -> EAA Members Only -> Member Resources in the
> Membership section. I personally believe the board minutes should be there
> as well. They've had a lot of web site problems so I think that's more of
> an oversight than an active attempt to hide things. EAA finally has an IT
> director who knows what he's doing and IT has been improving greatly since
> he came on board. I believe we're going to see a wholescale revamp of the
> EAA web presence and I will ask that the minutes be included.
> >
> > Finally I had included some history of each of the board incumbents
> since you had complained that you had no basis to vote for any of them. I
> don't have time to rewrite all that but I would like to point out that
> Barry Davis was only elected 3 years ago. He founded the EAA Chapter in
> Carollton, GA and is very active in it. He was part of a group that
> scratchbuilt 6 identical Pietenpols (2 of which got balled up in the
> tornado at Sun 'n Fun--they rebuilding them) and is currently finishing a
> ground-up restoration of his 1957 Cessna 172. In short, he's part of that
> fresh-vision homebuilder stock you were looking for.
> >
> > Just as reference, below I've attached a copy of an email I sent to Tom
> in January, 2011 talking about the board restructuring.
> >
> > Safe travels everyone. See you at AirVenture!
> >
> > --Rick
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > On 01/07/2011 10:30 AM, Tom Poberezny wrote:
> > > - Attached you will find a current list of directors. Note
> > > behind the Director name is the date each Director planned to retire or
> > > if they were going to serve long term (3 years or more). This was based
> > > on the conversations I had with each Board member in 2008. As a result
> > > of those interviews, these dates were developed in an effort to reduce
> > > the size of the Board (25 or less), a goal approved by the Board. The
> > > plan was to reach this size by the end of 2011. Please verify if the
> > > date indicated is correct.
> >
> > It is. I'd like to serve at least one more 3 year term.
> >
> > > - There have been thoughts expressed by some Directors as to
> > > whether or not we should continue to downsize the Board to 25
> > > Directors. Please provide your opinion.
> >
> > If we take the division/council chairs out, we're at 24 now. I believe
> > our goal was 3 groups of 6 elected directors and that this year is the
> > final group. So we're nearly there anyway. We have some "extra"
> > directors because some of us got converted to class 3. Based on your
> > spreadsheet it seems like quite a few directors are not planning on
> > running next year so that gives us an opportunity to get to the goal
> > without getting rid of people we'd like to keep.
> >
> > At any rate, I'm ambivalent about whether the count is 6 or 7 per year.
> > Many people will say a board shouldn't be larger than 8 or 9 but I'm not
> > sure we could adequately represent our diverse membership with that
> > small a board.
> >
> > > - I am also asking each Director to share their thoughts
> > > regarding what you feel are the 2 - 3 key Governance priorities that
> > > need to be addressed.
> >
> > The board downsizing combined with building a relationship with a new
> > president gives us a great opportunity to re-evaluate how the board
> > works. I don't think the board is broken, but I think it could be doing
> > better. Ie let's look at Board Development. FWIW I've recently become a
> > fan of John Carver's Policy-Governance Board model.
> >
> > I also think it's a good time to take a look at the entire nominating &
> > election process to increase transparency and to make sure we have a mix
> > of directors that fairly represent the membership and have the skills we
> > really need in a board. That may include a proxy where the members get
> > to choose specific candidates. It may include an active nominating
> > committee that recruits candidates and doing away with self-nomination.
> > It may include term limits. I'm open to discussions about all three.
> >
> > In short, I'm looking forward to seeing what your Board Governance plan
> > looks like.
> >
> > Happy New Year!
> >
> > --Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Mythical, Magical, Travelling Nose Gear Incert Tool |
Hi
The tool has enjoyed its stay north of the 45th and is now on its way to
Colorado Springs.
Thanks Lew for making this available.
Cheers
Les
#40643
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher
Sent: June-15-12 3:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Nose Gear Incert tool
Hey Guys,
The traveling insert kit is on the way. Gary had trouble with a couple of
inserts breaking off prematurely and he has added extra to the kit.
Tom, Mike, Steve, Chris, and Michael, your bolts will go out tomorrow since
you either didn't want the kit, or you got on the list after the kit and
bolts had already left. I'll let you know about the cost (.80 ea plus
shipping) since they will be shipped separately.
It would be considerate of those waiting if you would post here when you are
finished and sending it on to the next on the list.
Later, - Lew
do not archive
--------
non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375770#375770
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| Subject: | Re: Proxy Stuff.. |
Still have. I have a couple people nibbling but no one has bit yet.
--Rick
On 7/21/2012 3:33 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> Rick is one of the good guys, active on the Piper list that I
> administrate, has a Cherokee(had?) that was up for sale last I recall.
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| Subject: | Logbook software |
What is everyone using for pilot or other logbook software? I'm thinking about
moving more electronic and have been looking at the usual suspects like LogTen
and Zululog.
Michael
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| Subject: | Logbook software |
I have only used Logbook Pro for last ~8 years. Works for me but I have NO idea
what is available now and if I were to start over I would look for something
cloud based as long as you can export YOUR data back to your local computer if
needed.
Michael what EFIS are you using?
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sausen
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:48 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Logbook software
What is everyone using for pilot or other logbook software? I'm thinking about
moving more electronic and have been looking at the usual suspects like LogTen
and Zululog.
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Logbook software |
I use Excel as a backup to a written logbook because I started a long time ago
and don't want to transcribe a lot of data.
It is handy at insurance renewal time when they ask "total time, time in type,
total time last year, time in type last year, time last 90 days, ...."
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Logbook software |
Thanks Robin, I have AFS 4500's. I was just looking at Logbook Pro and it looks
like they have an app for pretty much everything in addition to the desktop.
I like the look of LogTen but no web or desktop app for PC so that's probably
out.
Michael
On Jul 21, 2012, at 8:05 PM, "Robin Marks" <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
>
> I have only used Logbook Pro for last ~8 years. Works for me but I have NO idea
what is available now and if I were to start over I would look for something
cloud based as long as you can export YOUR data back to your local computer
if needed.
>
> Michael what EFIS are you using?
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sausen
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:48 PM
> To: RV-10 List
> Subject: RV10-List: Logbook software
>
>
> What is everyone using for pilot or other logbook software? I'm thinking about
moving more electronic and have been looking at the usual suspects like LogTen
and Zululog.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Logbook software |
I use excel for a logbook and only log flight reviews or training time or anything
that requires a signature in my hardcover log.
Tim
On Jul 21, 2012, at 8:08 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
> I use Excel as a backup to a written logbook because I started a long time ago
and don't want to transcribe a lot of data.
>
> It is handy at insurance renewal time when they ask "total time, time in type,
total time last year, time in type last year, time last 90 days, ...."
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378889#378889
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Logbook software |
Back in the early '90s I made an Access program for a logbook as a way to run
reports and always know where I was with currency. It was a lot of work and I
spent many hours entering in all of the info from my logbook. When I changed
careers I let that lapse so I'm basically paper based again.
Michael
On Jul 21, 2012, at 8:16 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
> I use Excel as a backup to a written logbook because I started a long time ago
and don't want to transcribe a lot of data.
>
> It is handy at insurance renewal time when they ask "total time, time in type,
total time last year, time in type last year, time last 90 days, ...."
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378889#378889
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Logbook software |
I've been using For Pilots Logbook at www.forpilots.com
shareware, simple, easy to customize. No idea if it works on non-windoze
platforms.
On 7/21/2012 5:48 PM, Michael Sausen wrote:
>
> What is everyone using for pilot or other logbook software? I'm thinking
about moving more electronic and have been looking at the usual suspects like
LogTen and Zululog.
>
> Michael
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Logbook software |
I use a spreadsheet and print the pages with a space at the bottom of each
for BFR signoffs and such.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
> I use Excel as a backup to a written logbook because I started a long time
> ago and don't want to transcribe a lot of data.
>
> It is handy at insurance renewal time when they ask "total time, time in
> type, total time last year, time in type last year, time last 90 days, ...."
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378889#378889
>
>
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| Subject: | synergy air Wally Anderson |
I just wanted to thank Wally Anderson publicly for his help when my RV10 wa
s broken down in Eugene, Oregon. I first started building the RV 10 with Wa
lly's h.
I just wanted to publicly thank Wally Anderson of Synergy Air in Eugene, Or
egon for all of his help when my RV 10 was broken down in Eugene. I first s
tarted building my RV10 under Wally's tutilage in 2005. He is the same very
helpful individual as he has always been. I highly recommend his team's se
rvices when contemplating an RV build.
Thanks,
PilotDDS
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| Subject: | Re: synergy air Wally Anderson |
Wally's a great guy. All my experiences with him have been great.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:55 PM, pilotdds <pilotdds@aol.com> wrote:
> I just wanted to thank Wally Anderson publicly for his help when my RV10
> was broken down in Eugene, Oregon. I first started building the RV 10 with
> Wally's h.
>
>
> I just wanted to publicly thank Wally Anderson of Synergy Air in Eugene,
> Oregon for all of his help when my RV 10 was broken down in Eugene. I first
> started building my RV10 under Wally's tutilage in 2005. He is the same
> very helpful individual as he has always been. I highly recommend his
> team's services when contemplating an RV build.
> Thanks,
> PilotDDS
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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We arrived at OSH this afternoon. We had 10.5 on the Hobbs from KWVI with
4 stops. We're staying at the dorms (air conditioned !?!) for the weekend,
then we pick up our motorhome and should be very close to RV10 HQ.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
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| Subject: | Re: Proxy Stuff.. |
Phil; so when I get my admission on Monday am, I also need to renew my
membership. I will certainly go to Cleveland Tools to get my proxy vote,
but do I need to ask anything at the gate Monday when I renew to prevent
the proxy vote getting asigned to the EAA administration?
Thx, Rick
40956
Southampton, Ont
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Phil Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. That's a breath of fresh air.
>
> I will send you my cell information in a separate message and we should at
> least spend a few minutes talking at AV before Saturday.
>
> I'm currently at the doctors office with my son and will send the info
> when I get back to be house.
>
> Phil
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Rick Beebe <richard.beebe@yale.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 7/20/2012 11:21 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
> >> Personally I think we've pretty much done everything we can reasonably
> >> do between now and the time AirVenture closes. My concern is that the
> >> several folks are looking forward to the business meeting like a 'High
> >> Noon' duel on main street. We've collected enough proxy votes in 2
> >> weeks to make a reasonable statement and express our concerns. We can
> >> do it in a respectful manner and see how EAA chooses to respond. I'm
> >> hopeful they will accept the proxy's and provide better methods that
> >> allow all EAA members to participate in elections.
> >
> > I'm looking forward to meeting you at the meeting and, I agree. It works
> best if things stay cordial.
> >
> > Earlier this week I spent quite a while writing a long email describing
> the changes the board has been undergoing for the past few years. We
> elected to downsize from over 50 to 25 or less. 18 elected members and room
> for 7 class III directors (appointed by the board for 1 year terms). We
> have also talked about adding transparency to the proxy process and to
> changing the board nomination process. My purpose was two-fold. One to let
> you know that your concerns with the proxy process are not new and that
> some of us also want to see changes. And second to attempt to preempt
> future cries along the line of "See, we showed up at the meeting with our
> proxies and now the board is making changes to thwart us next year!" I
> don't know, yet, if there will be process changes next year but I did want
> you to know that redefining the board is an ongoing project.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I sent the email from the wrong address without saving a
> copy and the matronics server bounced it without actually sending the whole
> thing back to me. And I've been too busy this week to write it again.
> >
> > I also wrote that I found the current list of directors. It's at
> www.oshkosh365.org -> EAA Members Only -> Member Resources in the
> Membership section. I personally believe the board minutes should be there
> as well. They've had a lot of web site problems so I think that's more of
> an oversight than an active attempt to hide things. EAA finally has an IT
> director who knows what he's doing and IT has been improving greatly since
> he came on board. I believe we're going to see a wholescale revamp of the
> EAA web presence and I will ask that the minutes be included.
> >
> > Finally I had included some history of each of the board incumbents
> since you had complained that you had no basis to vote for any of them. I
> don't have time to rewrite all that but I would like to point out that
> Barry Davis was only elected 3 years ago. He founded the EAA Chapter in
> Carollton, GA and is very active in it. He was part of a group that
> scratchbuilt 6 identical Pietenpols (2 of which got balled up in the
> tornado at Sun 'n Fun--they rebuilding them) and is currently finishing a
> ground-up restoration of his 1957 Cessna 172. In short, he's part of that
> fresh-vision homebuilder stock you were looking for.
> >
> > Just as reference, below I've attached a copy of an email I sent to Tom
> in January, 2011 talking about the board restructuring.
> >
> > Safe travels everyone. See you at AirVenture!
> >
> > --Rick
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > On 01/07/2011 10:30 AM, Tom Poberezny wrote:
> > > - Attached you will find a current list of directors. Note
> > > behind the Director name is the date each Director planned to retire or
> > > if they were going to serve long term (3 years or more). This was based
> > > on the conversations I had with each Board member in 2008. As a result
> > > of those interviews, these dates were developed in an effort to reduce
> > > the size of the Board (25 or less), a goal approved by the Board. The
> > > plan was to reach this size by the end of 2011. Please verify if the
> > > date indicated is correct.
> >
> > It is. I'd like to serve at least one more 3 year term.
> >
> > > - There have been thoughts expressed by some Directors as to
> > > whether or not we should continue to downsize the Board to 25
> > > Directors. Please provide your opinion.
> >
> > If we take the division/council chairs out, we're at 24 now. I believe
> > our goal was 3 groups of 6 elected directors and that this year is the
> > final group. So we're nearly there anyway. We have some "extra"
> > directors because some of us got converted to class 3. Based on your
> > spreadsheet it seems like quite a few directors are not planning on
> > running next year so that gives us an opportunity to get to the goal
> > without getting rid of people we'd like to keep.
> >
> > At any rate, I'm ambivalent about whether the count is 6 or 7 per year.
> > Many people will say a board shouldn't be larger than 8 or 9 but I'm not
> > sure we could adequately represent our diverse membership with that
> > small a board.
> >
> > > - I am also asking each Director to share their thoughts
> > > regarding what you feel are the 2 - 3 key Governance priorities that
> > > need to be addressed.
> >
> > The board downsizing combined with building a relationship with a new
> > president gives us a great opportunity to re-evaluate how the board
> > works. I don't think the board is broken, but I think it could be doing
> > better. Ie let's look at Board Development. FWIW I've recently become a
> > fan of John Carver's Policy-Governance Board model.
> >
> > I also think it's a good time to take a look at the entire nominating &
> > election process to increase transparency and to make sure we have a mix
> > of directors that fairly represent the membership and have the skills we
> > really need in a board. That may include a proxy where the members get
> > to choose specific candidates. It may include an active nominating
> > committee that recruits candidates and doing away with self-nomination.
> > It may include term limits. I'm open to discussions about all three.
> >
> > In short, I'm looking forward to seeing what your Board Governance plan
> > looks like.
> >
> > Happy New Year!
> >
> > --Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Proxy Stuff.. |
Hi Rick.
Second time I've been asked that question in the past 30 seconds. No kiddin
g!
Just make sure you know your member number and if you are asked to assign yo
ur proxy to the current leadership team, that something you don't want to do
to avoid any confusion.
See you in a few days.
Thanks,
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Rick Lark <larkrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
> Phil; so when I get my admission on Monday am, I also need to renew my mem
bership. I will certainly go to Cleveland Tools to get my proxy vote, but d
o I need to ask anything at the gate Monday when I renew to prevent the prox
y vote getting asigned to the EAA administration?
>
> Thx, Rick
> 40956
> Southampton, Ont
>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Phil Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. That's a breath of fresh air.
>
> I will send you my cell information in a separate message and we should at
least spend a few minutes talking at AV before Saturday.
>
> I'm currently at the doctors office with my son and will send the info whe
n I get back to be house.
>
> Phil
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Rick Beebe <richard.beebe@yale.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 7/20/2012 11:21 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
> >> Personally I think we've pretty much done everything we can reasonably
> >> do between now and the time AirVenture closes. My concern is that the
> >> several folks are looking forward to the business meeting like a 'High
> >> Noon' duel on main street. We've collected enough proxy votes in 2
> >> weeks to make a reasonable statement and express our concerns. We can
> >> do it in a respectful manner and see how EAA chooses to respond. I'm
> >> hopeful they will accept the proxy's and provide better methods that
> >> allow all EAA members to participate in elections.
> >
> > I'm looking forward to meeting you at the meeting and, I agree. It works
best if things stay cordial.
> >
> > Earlier this week I spent quite a while writing a long email describing t
he changes the board has been undergoing for the past few years. We elected t
o downsize from over 50 to 25 or less. 18 elected members and room for 7 cla
ss III directors (appointed by the board for 1 year terms). We have also tal
ked about adding transparency to the proxy process and to changing the board
nomination process. My purpose was two-fold. One to let you know that your c
oncerns with the proxy process are not new and that some of us also want to s
ee changes. And second to attempt to preempt future cries along the line of "
See, we showed up at the meeting with our proxies and now the board is makin
g changes to thwart us next year!" I don't know, yet, if there will be proce
ss changes next year but I did want you to know that redefining the board is
an ongoing project.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I sent the email from the wrong address without saving a c
opy and the matronics server bounced it without actually sending the whole t
hing back to me. And I've been too busy this week to write it again.
> >
> > I also wrote that I found the current list of directors. It's at www.osh
kosh365.org -> EAA Members Only -> Member Resources in the Membership sectio
n. I personally believe the board minutes should be there as well. They've h
ad a lot of web site problems so I think that's more of an oversight than an
active attempt to hide things. EAA finally has an IT director who knows wha
t he's doing and IT has been improving greatly since he came on board. I bel
ieve we're going to see a wholescale revamp of the EAA web presence and I wi
ll ask that the minutes be included.
> >
> > Finally I had included some history of each of the board incumbents sinc
e you had complained that you had no basis to vote for any of them. I don't h
ave time to rewrite all that but I would like to point out that Barry Davis w
as only elected 3 years ago. He founded the EAA Chapter in Carollton, GA and
is very active in it. He was part of a group that scratchbuilt 6 identical P
ietenpols (2 of which got balled up in the tornado at Sun 'n Fun--they rebui
lding them) and is currently finishing a ground-up restoration of his 1957 C
essna 172. In short, he's part of that fresh-vision homebuilder stock you we
re looking for.
> >
> > Just as reference, below I've attached a copy of an email I sent to Tom i
n January, 2011 talking about the board restructuring.
> >
> > Safe travels everyone. See you at AirVenture!
> >
> > --Rick
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > On 01/07/2011 10:30 AM, Tom Poberezny wrote:
> > > - Attached you will find a current list of directors. Note
> > > behind the Director name is the date each Director planned to retire o
r
> > > if they were going to serve long term (3 years or more). This was base
d
> > > on the conversations I had with each Board member in 2008. As a resul
t
> > > of those interviews, these dates were developed in an effort to reduce
> > > the size of the Board (25 or less), a goal approved by the Board. The
> > > plan was to reach this size by the end of 2011. Please verify if the
> > > date indicated is correct.
> >
> > It is. I'd like to serve at least one more 3 year term.
> >
> > > - There have been thoughts expressed by some Directors as to
> > > whether or not we should continue to downsize the Board to 25
> > > Directors. Please provide your opinion.
> >
> > If we take the division/council chairs out, we're at 24 now. I believe
> > our goal was 3 groups of 6 elected directors and that this year is the
> > final group. So we're nearly there anyway. We have some "extra"
> > directors because some of us got converted to class 3. Based on your
> > spreadsheet it seems like quite a few directors are not planning on
> > running next year so that gives us an opportunity to get to the goal
> > without getting rid of people we'd like to keep.
> >
> > At any rate, I'm ambivalent about whether the count is 6 or 7 per year.
> > Many people will say a board shouldn't be larger than 8 or 9 but I'm not
> > sure we could adequately represent our diverse membership with that
> > small a board.
> >
> > > - I am also asking each Director to share their thoughts
> > > regarding what you feel are the 2 - 3 key Governance priorities that
> > > need to be addressed.
> >
> > The board downsizing combined with building a relationship with a new
> > president gives us a great opportunity to re-evaluate how the board
> > works. I don't think the board is broken, but I think it could be doing
> > better. Ie let's look at Board Development. FWIW I've recently become a
> > fan of John Carver's Policy-Governance Board model.
> >
> > I also think it's a good time to take a look at the entire nominating &
> > election process to increase transparency and to make sure we have a mix
> > of directors that fairly represent the membership and have the skills we
> > really need in a board. That may include a proxy where the members get
> > to choose specific candidates. It may include an active nominating
> > committee that recruits candidates and doing away with self-nomination.
> > It may include term limits. I'm open to discussions about all three.
> >
> > In short, I'm looking forward to seeing what your Board Governance plan
> > looks like.
> >
> > Happy New Year!
> >
> > --Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Logbook software |
On 7/21/2012 8:48 PM, Michael Sausen wrote:
>
> What is everyone using for pilot or other logbook software? I'm thinking
about moving more electronic and have been looking at the usual suspects like
LogTen and Zululog.
>
Can we use electronic books for the plane (airframe, engine, prop)?
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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| Subject: | Re: Logbook software |
http://myflightbook.com
Works great, and it's free.
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 7/21/2012 8:48 PM, Michael Sausen wrote:
>
>>
>> What is everyone using for pilot or other logbook software? I'm
>> thinking about moving more electronic and have been looking at the usual
>> suspects like LogTen and Zululog.
>>
>>
>
> Can we use electronic books for the plane (airframe, engine, prop)?
>
> -Dj
>
> --
> Dj Merrill - N1JOV
> Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
> Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
>
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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